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Title: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 07, 2008, 09:56:09 PM
So I've been watching S4 and it's been a mixed bag, but the last few episodes have been FUCK AWESOME. The action here is pretty damn good; in fact the scene where Jack breaks Heller out of the terrorist compound may be the best action scene in the series so far. It didn't feel extravagent and somewhat wasteful, like say the season finale of S2 (which was awesome and everything but felt a bit off).

And speaking of Heller...

:bow :bow :bow  :american :american :american

But it's still a mixed bag due to some bad acting and side stories. I don't give a fuck about Audrey's ex, I don't give a fuck about Driscol's crazy daughter, etc. I will admit the Araz thing is somewhat interesting despite that kid being annoying as fuck. His dad is coold blooded

And I just finished the episode where TONY saves the fucking day. I was sooo bummed that barely any of the old cast was present but me and my brother jumped off the couch when he showed up. SO AWESOME :bow
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: drew on August 07, 2008, 11:15:37 PM
it's all downhill from here...

spoilers:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
then it gets all "terrorist crisis averted phew thanks Jack OH WAIT that was only a diversion for (insert worse terrorist scheme here) crisis averted OH WAIT  ::)" and on and on and on until the show becomes a parody of itself.
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Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Bloodwake on August 08, 2008, 06:21:25 AM
In order to be a 24 fan, you have to realize that:

1: there's always going to be a threats
2: it's going to be similar in some ways to the threats already presented.

This is one reason that I'm really liking where the new TV movie is going in terms of direction. I'm pretty sure it's not going to be in real time and it doesn't even happen in America for the most part.

As far as Season Four goes, I enjoyed it for the most part. As with every season of this show, they throw in shit that shouldn't be in there (cougar from Season Two) but seriously, Bauer fucking holds up a convenient store. It's good television.

24, overall, is probably my second favorite show though, behind Lost, which I determined to be superior after last season kicked my ass so hard I thought I was in Virginia for a while.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Bloodwake on August 08, 2008, 06:24:12 AM
PD, as far as Seasons 4-5, they are good. Season 5, in fact, was so good, I'm probably going to rewatch it soon.

There's no defending Season 6 though, especially after the show started out so well. They couldn't really top that though, and Season 6 is obviously the most ridiculous and unlikely as well as pure stupid.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: chronovore on August 08, 2008, 07:24:33 AM
24 is a complete mixed bag, I agree. After S1 ended darkly, and S2 weakly, I signed off at the end of Season 3 when I got every bit of closure I needed:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Sherri Palmer DEAD! Nina Meyers, moooooooole, DEAD!
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After that, I got out while the gettin' was good. I've heard that S5 is the cat's pyjamas, but I'm pretty sure trying to wade through S4 will not be worth it.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 08, 2008, 08:57:28 AM
I had the opposite impression: I felt the finale to S2 was good despite being kinda crazy, while the ending to S3 is kinda laughable. Overall I thought S3 was very well paced; they cut down on the bullshit storylines for the most part...outside of the baby drama lol

After S1 of Lost I still clung to the opinion that 24 was better...but after S3 and S4 there's no comparison imo. Overall all four seasons of Lost are just better paced and I rarely felt like an episode was a waste. Plus in terms of action and production Lost wins. I've really been shocked at the bad acting in S4
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Bacon on August 08, 2008, 09:13:44 AM
I just finished the S6 DVDs last week. I don't think it was as bad as everyone was saying...
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: chronovore on August 08, 2008, 09:51:41 AM
Oh, god, the acting. Man, the British guy who they got as the final terrorist leader in S3 is just... when he cracks, it is just so incredibly fake. For years I've thought it was easier to play "insane" or "distinguished mentally-challenged" than to do anything subtle and normal, but that guy just looks like Children's Television Workshop version of "crazy."
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 08, 2008, 05:00:13 PM
Every though S4 was a pretty week season, I loved the way it ended. Series could've/should've ended there.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: bud on August 08, 2008, 05:23:09 PM
this show is even worse than anime.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 08, 2008, 06:26:52 PM
NO U
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 08, 2008, 07:50:55 PM
the worst side story is Audrey's shitty ex. What a loser  :lol

i bet he's going to go crazy and try to pull some shit.
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Bloodwake on August 08, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: Sec. of Defense James Heller on August 08, 2008, 07:50:55 PM
the worst side story is Audrey's shitty ex. What a loser  :lol

i bet he's going to go crazy and try to pull some shit.

All the Audrey shit is pretty fucking bad

Season Six, that's all I'm saying. THE WORST 24 SEASON FINALE OF ALL FINALES EVER
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Hollywood on August 08, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
Agreed. Heller + Bauer awesomeness is what makes that season. The problem with replaying 24 is it's set up for a cliffhanger at the end of every hour, that you find out is resolved inj the preview of the next episode, and in the next episode in about 5 minutes most of the time. When you rewatch ANY of the shit, you realize how artificial almost of those cliffhangers are.

By season six, you get tired of the plitics of it all. "Jack you can't do this .. white house/protocols/this or this prevents you from it!" Then because of the completely arbitrary protocol, catching the bad guy is fucked up, and Jack's instincts are ALWAYS right. At this point, CTU is so incompetant that it should have disband after about a total of three total episodes with all the moles, infiltrations, and incompetance. You get sick of it.

You get sick of Chloe saying "Jack, I can't do it, so and so director put a block on doing ANYTHING.", then Jack says "Chloe I need this!", and Chloe says "Okay Jack I'll do it."

 ::)
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2008, 01:46:08 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on August 08, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
Agreed. Heller + Bauer awesomeness is what makes that season. The problem with replaying 24 is it's set up for a cliffhanger at the end of every hour, that you find out is resolved inj the preview of the next episode, and in the next episode in about 5 minutes most of the time. When you rewatch ANY of the shit, you realize how artificial almost of those cliffhangers are.

By season six, you get tired of the plitics of it all. "Jack you can't do this .. white house/protocols/this or this prevents you from it!" Then because of the completely arbitrary protocol, catching the bad guy is fucked up, and Jack's instincts are ALWAYS right. At this point, CTU is so incompetant that it should have disband after about a total of three total episodes with all the moles, infiltrations, and incompetance. You get sick of it.

You get sick of Chloe saying "Jack, I can't do it, so and so director put a block on doing ANYTHING.", then Jack says "Chloe I need this!", and Chloe says "Okay Jack I'll do it."

 ::)

Yea. The show is very repetitive but gets away with it due to featuring such an awesome central character; I mean the man robbed a fucking gas station!

Each season boils down to:

1. Jack attempts to deal with Situation A with Solution A
2. CTU demands he deal with Situation A with Solution B
3. Jack works outside CTU demands, solves Situation A with Solution A
*repeat*

1. Jack attempts to deal with Situation B with Solution B
2. Inside mole is discovered, compromises Situation B
3. Jack realizes compromise, now attempts to solve Situation B with Solution C
4. CTU demands he deal with Situation B with Solution B
*repeat*

You guys have seen all the seasons - what changes would you like to see? Assuming the 24 hour limitation is kept (not taking the tv movie into account)what type of situations would you like to see considered
Title: Re: 24 S4 redeemed..?
Post by: Hollywood on August 09, 2008, 03:07:39 AM
Quote from: Sec. of Defense James Heller on August 09, 2008, 01:46:08 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on August 08, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
Agreed. Heller + Bauer awesomeness is what makes that season. The problem with replaying 24 is it's set up for a cliffhanger at the end of every hour, that you find out is resolved inj the preview of the next episode, and in the next episode in about 5 minutes most of the time. When you rewatch ANY of the shit, you realize how artificial almost of those cliffhangers are.

By season six, you get tired of the plitics of it all. "Jack you can't do this .. white house/protocols/this or this prevents you from it!" Then because of the completely arbitrary protocol, catching the bad guy is fucked up, and Jack's instincts are ALWAYS right. At this point, CTU is so incompetant that it should have disband after about a total of three total episodes with all the moles, infiltrations, and incompetance. You get sick of it.

You get sick of Chloe saying "Jack, I can't do it, so and so director put a block on doing ANYTHING.", then Jack says "Chloe I need this!", and Chloe says "Okay Jack I'll do it."

 ::)

Yea. The show is very repetitive but gets away with it due to featuring such an awesome central character; I mean the man robbed a fucking gas station!

Each season boils down to:

1. Jack attempts to deal with Situation A with Solution A
2. CTU demands he deal with Situation A with Solution B
3. Jack works outside CTU demands, solves Situation A with Solution A
*repeat*

1. Jack attempts to deal with Situation B with Solution B
2. Inside mole is discovered, compromises Situation B
3. Jack realizes compromise, now attempts to solve Situation B with Solution C
4. CTU demands he deal with Situation B with Solution B
*repeat*

You guys have seen all the seasons - what changes would you like to see? Assuming the 24 hour limitation is kept (not taking the tv movie into account)what type of situations would you like to see considered

Well, not to give anything away, but season 7 has pretty much disbanded CTU of what I know of, and a former main character, if not THE former main character is the enemy. I don't know what more you can do with that. With a year off, they definitely have should have brainstormed some huge ideas, and that is a big start from what was supposed to air last year.