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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Tabasco on August 18, 2008, 10:41:52 AM

Title: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Tabasco on August 18, 2008, 10:41:52 AM
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080817-microsoft.html

Quote from: Prometheus
Xbox Live is a great service, but it's not clear that all of its features are needed. While the hardcore complain about Nintendo's friend codes, most mainstream gamers are more than willing to put up with them. And Microsoft's competitors aren't standing still; Home could be the silver bullet that finally gives Sony the edge in online play. The PS3 has one of the most anticipated casual games ever with LittleBigPlanet, and the branding of Sackboy is already amazingly strong.

Add idiosyncratic games, such as Flower, that are coming to the PS3 and Nintendo's absolute dominance of the casual market, and you have a gaming world where cherry-picking old franchises is no longer enough. Gears of War 2 looks great, but Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 look just as good in terms of scale, graphics, and online play.

. . .

There is also the fact that Sony's online offerings are free. Yes, Xbox Live is better. But how much better? There are large numbers of gamers out there who simply will not pay money for online play and are more than happy with Sony's offerings. So what if you can't send a voice message across games? Sony's newly-launched in-game XMB adds a ton of functionality, and the Trophies it brings seem to be gaining popularity; I know many people personally who are revisiting old games to tackle the new challenges.


 :bow Home  Flower  LBP  :bow2  :piss XBOX  :piss2
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 10:43:42 AM
I have like 50 XBL games; do these people even play games?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: bud on August 18, 2008, 10:44:11 AM
eb, what happened? :( :-\
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 10:44:47 AM
Mgs4 won't even be in the top10 this year  :lol

People like Dfyb and such think they can change reality by writing it. It's fucked up.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Positive Touch on August 18, 2008, 10:47:35 AM
ONE OF THE MOST ANTICIPATED CASUAL GAMES EVER

AMAZINGLY STRONG BRANDING
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Positive Touch on August 18, 2008, 10:53:09 AM
reported
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: drohne on August 18, 2008, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: tabasco
:piss XBOX  :piss2

truer fluids were never excreted

:bow arse technica :bow2
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 11:06:52 AM
How about you guys start writing about better shit. All i see you guys is complaining, but i never saw you guys contributing much.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 11:07:15 AM
Im waiting for Valkyria Chronicles n Disgaea 3
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Tabasco on August 18, 2008, 11:13:35 AM
I thought eb was about not getting all butthurt about things.  I'm trying to figure out how I could have made that post any more light-hearted.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 18, 2008, 11:14:27 AM
console wars are serious business, you pompous cigarillo.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 18, 2008, 11:15:36 AM
I thought eb was about not getting all butthurt about things.  I'm trying to figure out how I could have made that post any more light-hearted.
xfags don't like bad news about their system. It ruins the whole forum for them.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Mupepe on August 18, 2008, 11:19:08 AM
Quote
Home could be the silver bullet that finally gives Sony the edge in online play. The PS3 has one of the most anticipated casual games ever with LittleBigPlanet, and the branding of Sackboy is already amazingly strong.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

No one outside of hardcore gamers even knows what LittleBigPlanet is.  How is it one of the most anticipated casual games?  And Home.  :lol

I think MS needs to kick it up a notch or they will be dead, but that argument is fucking stupid.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MCD on August 18, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
i need to suck a dick.

VIZ!
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 18, 2008, 11:25:21 AM
we need our xfag emperor to lead us out of these dark times

xbox am doomed
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 18, 2008, 11:26:07 AM
i'm not offended by the bashing of the xbox -- there's plenty to bash. i just can't fathom how sfags exist given that the ps3 has an atrocious library and no real hope for the future beyond a few nominal first-party options canted at every opportunity (r2, lbp, k2), subpar ports from the 360, inferior or at best parity hardware when compared with the 360, and a real dearth of the jappy content loved by all gaftypes.

the ONLY reasons i can imagine are:

1) fell (or fear falling) into a red ring of fire and refuse to go waggle
2) love blu-ray and do not want two giant flame-spewing consoles under the tv
3) stupid as fuck; can't separate brand history from reality
4) stupid as fuck; pointlessly contrarian
5) stupid as fuck; goes by handle dfyb
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 18, 2008, 11:28:19 AM
we need our xfag emperor to lead us out of these dark times

xbox am doomed

:bow :bow :bow he is the path and the radiance :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 18, 2008, 11:29:59 AM
i'm not offended by the bashing of the xbox -- there's plenty to bash. i just can't fathom how sfags exist given that the ps3 has an atrocious library and no real hope for the future beyond a few nominal first-party options canted at every opportunity (r2, lbp, k2), subpar ports from the 360, inferior or at best parity hardware when compared with the 360, and a real dearth of the jappy content loved by all gaftypes.

:bow Drinky :bow2

Pretty much EB in a nutshell
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
Xfags

[youtube=425,350]ip1zsUIosoA[/youtube]
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
i complain about the 360 all the time - i'm on my third one, build quality is asshole bad and there's no denying that

also, endless nickel and diming on the microtransaction front, not too fond of that

the games are good, though, and that's what it's all about
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 18, 2008, 11:31:28 AM
i'm not offended by the bashing of the xbox -- there's plenty to bash. i just can't fathom how sfags exist given that the ps3 has an atrocious library and no real hope for the future beyond a few nominal first-party options canted at every opportunity (r2, lbp, k2), subpar ports from the 360, inferior or at best parity hardware when compared with the 360, and a real dearth of the jappy content loved by all gaftypes.

:bow Drinky :bow2

Pretty much EB in a nutshell

i am only the herald for his royal xfagness
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 18, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
i complain about the 360 all the time - i'm on my third one, build quality is asshole bad and there's no denying that

also, endless nickel and diming on the microtransaction front, not too fond of that

the games are good, though, and that's what it's all about

eel o'brian: real gamer
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
thanks, but i dunno about that - i just bought a sack full of electronic fail yesterday, remember
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Fragamemnon on August 18, 2008, 11:53:27 AM
the entire XB live marketplace looks like some terrible cross between early to mid 90s' AOL and a cable home shopping network (with 28k modem era network speeds to boot). Other than that, if my pc snob self can find a few hours worth of gaming on the 360 a week it must be doing something right.

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 18, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
Everyone* needs** to relax fo sho


*some people
**need
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 12:04:59 PM
also that d-pad is bullshit, did no one test it on an actual game
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 18, 2008, 12:10:17 PM
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery
I may have won the lottery

.... awww, it's not working. Perhaps if i keep posting it eventually it'll be come true? sfags can you tell me if this tactic eventually works?



:bow dcharlie :bow2

Lo, our Xfag emperor hath descended from on high. Show us the way
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: drohne on August 18, 2008, 12:13:26 PM
not only are ps3 and 360 mediocre consoles, they're practically the same mediocre console -- i can't think of two competing platforms that were less differentiated in terms of hardware performance or characteristic software. being a saturn fanboy meant something; being an sfag or an xbot just means you like arguing on the internet. practically everything is multiplatform anyway, and most of the interest in version comparisons is transparently feigned. xbox and xbots are convenient stand-ins for some of the things i loathe about videogames and the people who play them, but that's the extent of my interest in the matter
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 12:24:03 PM
not only are ps3 and 360 mediocre consoles, they're practically the same mediocre console -- i can't think of two competing platforms that were less differentiated in terms of hardware performance or characteristic software. being a saturn fanboy meant something; being an sfag or an xbot just means you like arguing on the internet. practically everything is multiplatform anyway, and most of the interest in version comparisons is transparently feigned. xbox and xbots are convenient stand-ins for some of the things i loathe about videogames and the people who play them, but that's the extent of my interest in the matter

You just said they are both alike, why do you then go and make a distintion between them?

Hypocrite.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 12:26:01 PM
I thought eb was about not getting all butthurt about things.  I'm trying to figure out how I could have made that post any more light-hearted.
xfags don't like bad news about their system. It ruins the whole forum for them.

Read the Too Human and Braid threads recently?  Also, I'm like one of the 3 people here that liked Gears.  EB's distaste for the PS3 stems from common sense, not fanboyism.  People here are generally honest about their likes or dislikes.  Except, of course, when anyone gets too attached to a game or system.  Then EB trolls the fuck out of that person.  

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Vizzys on August 18, 2008, 12:29:46 PM
stopped reading at home

home :bow
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: drohne on August 18, 2008, 12:31:13 PM
there's no real difference in content, but there's a difference in branding, and xbox is the official brand of smug vulgarity. thank god* that xbox will only ever appeal to a small, predominantly american set of cretins who think paying a subscription fee to be digitally curbstomped and then regaled with associated racial slurs is the best of good times

*kojima
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Fragamemnon on August 18, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
I wish more people would point out what a shithole xbox live is in terms of total inappropriateness and frat boy behavior. It has, over time, developed its own subculture, which has managed to surpass MMOs and even counter-strike in its level of sheer frat boy jackassery.

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 18, 2008, 12:38:32 PM
xbox is the official brand of smug vulgarity.

And monkey diapering/diahrrea joke telling game magically exonerates itself from the "smug vulgarity" stigma? lol

You even evoked Kojima in your post

I wish more people would point out what a shithole xbox live is in terms of total inappropriateness and frat boy behavior. It has, over time, developed its own subculture, which has managed to surpass MMOs and even counter-strike in its level of sheer frat boy jackassery.

Blame Halo. I think they only know how to call people "fegs" and distinguished black fellows, I hate it
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 12:39:17 PM
1) fell (or fear falling) into a red ring of fire and refuse to go waggle
2) love blu-ray and do not want two giant flame-spewing consoles under the tv
3) stupid as fuck; can't separate brand history from reality
4) stupid as fuck; pointlessly contrarian
5) stupid as fuck; goes by handle dfyb

6) Clever Duck; really likes games from Insomniac and Sucker Punch. I don't think I'd own a PS3 if those two jumped ship. Although there is some of 1) in it too, but that also extends to a preference for the system build, and system navigation that is fast rather than ham-smacked with content. But then I've never intended on only owning just a PS3, so I guess that cushions the fall of the many shortcomings.

I'm in all beds now, except Wii. Because the Wii is shit.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 12:42:01 PM
As much as I love MS, I've never paid them a dime for online gaming.  :rock

xbox is the official brand of smug vulgarity.

And Sony is the official brand of overpriced mediocrity.  Their electronic products are average at best yet consistently priced more than their competitors'.  I got burned when I took a leap of faith and bought Sony's "top of the line" 1080P LCD.  It was easily the worst TV I ever owned. Adding to the insult, customer service adviced me to fix my backlighting problems by turning the backlight almost completely.  

:piss Sony products :piss2
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Vizzys on August 18, 2008, 12:42:31 PM
I dont think xbox live is anything special when it comes to assholes/racists online. I have encountered such people on PSN  just as often. The difference being you can do something about it on xbox live with its global muting/ feedback/ and reporting system.

I have heard of people being banned for being douchebag racists.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 12:43:25 PM

You know, that's not even normal hate anymore. (Dhrone)

The hate you show is a product of Anger, Anger caused by jealousy. Basically, you were always a Sony cocksucker, and when Xbox came you probably laughed at it, dismissed it, imagining it would fail quickly. But it didn't.

Still you were glad, because Ps2 had stomped the shit out of it in sales, but something happened this gen. Ps3 fucking failed, and now you are upset, like the little sony cocksucker you are, you decide to trash Xbox.

I hate to break it down to you dude but.....there's nothing about the PS3 and it's gamers that is better than Xbox360 and its gamers.

So Xbox live has a bunch of racist hatin mongols, well, everyone has an headset, everyone can talk, and you can mute them, and you can exclusively play with your friends, and you're not obligated to pay for xbox live either, you do however have to stand the fucking silence in Ps3 online gaming, because almost nobody has an headset which makes any gaming session the most boring shit, and of course, since no one talks, no one seems racist, and unlike on the Xbox you do have to pay for shit you might not even care about, like Blu Ray, but who the fuck am i kidding?

In the end, nobody is being obligated to pay for the Blu Ray player that comes with the playstation, they are being obligated to pay for the playstation that comes with the most accessible Blu Ray player in the market.

So fuck sony cocksuckers and their poor attempt at gaming elitism.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Vizzys on August 18, 2008, 12:44:49 PM
damn for a minute I almost thought this was a serious thread, my mistake

:home
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
1) fell (or fear falling) into a red ring of fire and refuse to go waggle
2) love blu-ray and do not want two giant flame-spewing consoles under the tv
3) stupid as fuck; can't separate brand history from reality
4) stupid as fuck; pointlessly contrarian
5) stupid as fuck; goes by handle dfyb

6) Clever Duck; really likes games from Insomniac and Sucker Punch. I don't think I'd own a PS3 if those two jumped ship. Although there is some of 1) in it too, but that also extends to a preference for the system build, and system navigation that is fast rather than ham-smacked with content. But then I've never intended on only owning just a PS3, so I guess that cushions the fall of the many shortcomings.

I'm in all beds now, except Wii. Because the Wii is shit.


I'm curious as to why you're still a fan of Insomniac.  Sure, their games look good but their platformers have barely evolved in gameplay and there are far better FPS devs out there.  
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
Insomniac is a great dev in the sense that they are consistent. They produce a lot very quickly.

Unfortunately, they never produce anything great, but it's always good.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 18, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
^ I disagree, Going Commando remains my favorite game of all-time, and UYA was great as well. Haven't played any of their PS3 offerings
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 12:53:57 PM
^ I disagree, Going Commando remains my favorite game of all-time, and UYA was great as well. Haven't played any of their PS3 offerings

Resistance was average by FPS standards but R&C PS3 was pretty fun for people who've not played much of R&C previouisly.   
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 18, 2008, 01:01:21 PM
I thought eb was about not getting all butthurt about things.  I'm trying to figure out how I could have made that post any more light-hearted.
xfags don't like bad news about their system. It ruins the whole forum for them.

Read the Too Human and Braid threads recently? We are talking about systems
  Also, I'm like one of the 3 people here that liked Gears.  EB's distaste for the PS3 stems from common sense, not fanboyism. Funny, that is a mammoth fanboy sentence.. common sense lol

 People here are generally honest about their likes or dislikes.  Except, of course, when anyone gets too attached to a game or system.  Then EB trolls the fuck out of that person. As it should be


Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Bocsius on August 18, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
Xbots vs. Sonytards

The fight for irrelevancy continues.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: CurseoftheGods on August 18, 2008, 01:06:07 PM
Xbots vs. Sonytards

The fight for irrelevancy continues.


Yup.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 01:06:13 PM
I wish more people would point out what a shithole xbox live is in terms of total inappropriateness and frat boy behavior. It has, over time, developed its own subculture, which has managed to surpass MMOs and even counter-strike in its level of sheer frat boy jackassery.



never wear my headset, ever

global mute

edit:  there are just as many shitheads on pslive, from my experiences playing cod4
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 01:09:01 PM
I never use a headset, just 'cause that was always how I played PC games online. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
I never use a headset, just 'cause that was always how I played PC games online. 

yeah, the first cod, bf1942, good times, and when some douche typed in a bunch of cursing or gibberish they were always booted

for most games, you really don't need a headset

if you're with a bunch of jackoffs, talking to them isn't going to make a difference
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
You guys must play a lot of random matches. I always play with friends, unless it's pro evolution.

I got addicted with gears of war because of that. Every night, after dinner, it was gears of war time with the friends on xbox live.

But then it started cutting a bit into other things and i stopped playing, then i stopped paying for xbox live, and now....i miss the good old days :(
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
I'm curious as to why you're still a fan of Insomniac.  Sure, their games look good but their platformers have barely evolved in gameplay and there are far better FPS devs out there.

I thought Resistance was about as well designed and smooth of an FPS as I've ever played, it had a very satisfying multiplayer component, but it lacked any particular element of greatness that other, far less consistent developers have managed to put in their games. I also realize that it's a competitive landscape and for that reason, I think Insomniac basically played that one far too safe. I already know from a game like Ratchet Deadlocked that they can create battle scenarios that are about as good as they come, so now they just need to unshackle themselves and put their balls on the line, so to speak. Ratchet was incredible to look at, and there's some personality, good humor and obviously excellent artistic qualities to especially the character design. It too, however, felt like a very safe ride, which was a shame. But at the very least, it was a very good Ratchet game. Not sure if one of those were needed, though.

Part of it is because I know, without doubt, that whatever Insomniac game I'll pick up, it will be entertaining and well designed. It's just, as said, they lack whatever it is that elevated something like Halo to greatness. Something even Bungie seemed to have lost track of for Halo 2, although what little I played of Halo 3 suggested that Bungie might have relocated it. And going by what we know about Resistance 2, and how far ahead of Resistance 1 it seems in its featureset, I think Insomniac too might be on the right track.


edit:  there are just as many shitheads on pslive, from my experiences playing cod4

Yep. It's just that fewer of them have headsets, but when it comes right down to it, it's about the same douchy types. Of course, fucking voice masking can potentially make it even worse. The first time I encountered that in a COD4 match, I felt like I was back in the MechAssault days.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 01:26:48 PM
well, yes, i do use a headset when i know the people i am playing with, but most of my friends aren't really gamers

i know one person who has all three current systems, and two people with ps3s - the person with all three systems isn't online, and the two ps3 owners bought it mainly for blu ray
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 01:30:45 PM
I'm curious as to why you're still a fan of Insomniac.  Sure, their games look good but their platformers have barely evolved in gameplay and there are far better FPS devs out there.

I thought Resistance was about as well designed and smooth of an FPS as I've ever played, it had a very satisfying multiplayer component,

I was impressed by how well Resistance looked and ran in MP mode.  Too bad, the PS3 analog sticks prevented me from investing too much time in it.  I just can't get used to them for some reason. 

Is R2 compatible with KB+M?  If I'm going to play R2 online, I'll need KB+M or at least a FragFX controller. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 01:31:51 PM
well, yes, i do use a headset when i know the people i am playing with, but most of my friends aren't really gamers

i know one person who has all three current systems, and two people with ps3s - the person with all three systems isn't online, and the two ps3 owners bought it mainly for blu ray

I only knew 1 dude with xbox360. We started playing together and quickly we started finding other portuguese dudes on xbox live, and those dudes knew other dudes, and we formed a community, it was awesome.

But i guess it's easier when it's like that. If i was from the US for example it probably would've been harder to build that community, because, it's not like "hey that dude is portuguese, i'll send him an invite", so i guess it's harder to pick.

In contrast, it's much harder on PSN for me, because nobody talks so it's much harder to build a community.

PSN is like this city where people go there, do their thing and leave. Xbox live is like this city where you enter and everyone is making parties, and people are making group lunches and shit like that, and it's noisy and while it might be a bit overwhelming at first, once you loosen up a bit, you are in the party with them.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 01:33:05 PM
I was impressed by how well Resistance looked and ran in MP mode.  Too bad, the PS3 analog sticks prevented me from investing too much time in it.  I just can't get used to them for some reason. 

Is R2 compatible with KB+M?  If I'm going to play R2 online, I'll need KB+M or at least a FragFX controller. 

I doubt it will have kb+m support, unfortunately. The FragFX might be good, although I could never get used to the one I had. When you have a mouse, you expect to use your other hand to navigate keys. Instead, you have a thumbstick. Works great for moving around, and I probably didn't give it enough time, but it felt off to me.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 18, 2008, 01:44:04 PM
I dont think xbox live is anything special when it comes to assholes/racists online. I have encountered such people on PSN  just as often. The difference being you can do something about it on xbox live with its global muting/ feedback/ and reporting system.

I have heard of people being banned for being douchebag racists.

Plus private chat, soon to be spread across 8 player parties

Holla
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Tabasco on August 18, 2008, 02:04:37 PM
XBL is pretty bad.  I stopped playing Halo 2 many times b/c I just couldn't take it.  But I don't know if it's worse than CS.  CS was pretty fucking awful.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Mupepe on August 18, 2008, 02:06:11 PM
also, more people just seem to have headsets on xbl.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Mupepe on August 18, 2008, 02:19:17 PM
also, more people just seem to have headsets on xbl.
I believe that is because they gave them away with the xbox.
not with the arcade unit! (right?)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Oblivion on August 18, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
I can understand seeing some people at say, GAF or whatever take insults to their console of choice to heart. But I would have expected people on EB to have thicker skin. Smh.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Mupepe on August 18, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
I have no idea, but considering the arcade unit is somewhat of a retail albatross, does it matter?
no!  just saying that psn users are the same assholes but without a soapbox.

cum over and cook now.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 03:30:44 PM
why can't people on this forum take other member's posts for what they are instead of misconstruing them to fit their agenda? 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 03:35:09 PM
because half of you talk like crazy people from crazy land. I am in constant denial of your existence.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 03:41:42 PM
because half of you talk like crazy people from crazy land. I am in constant denial of your existence.
well i know why you do it.  you aren't even literate. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 18, 2008, 03:44:46 PM
At least MAF never talks about stuff like camera control in a FPS.   ::)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 03:52:28 PM
At least MAF never talks about stuff like camera control in a FPS.   ::)
it's one thing to not 'get' complex stories, for example.  but it's another when you just flat out can't comprehend simple comparisons. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 03:53:27 PM
Sorry Justin, if anyone on this forum is Grade A stupid, it's you.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 03:54:58 PM
Sorry Justin, if anyone on this forum is Grade A stupid, it's you.
says the guy who accused me of ranting on FPS  :lol
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 03:56:39 PM
Your FPS comparison is stupid
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
Mojovonio is the last true
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 03:59:25 PM
"DAR FPS IS A CAMERA U HAFF TO CONTROL ALL TIME OR NO PLAY GAME! HAHAHMBYAHA *pisses pants*" - JustinP tm
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 04:02:46 PM
"DAR FPS IS A CAMERA U HAFF TO CONTROL ALL TIME OR NO PLAY GAME! HAHAHMBYAHA *pisses pants*" - JustinP tm
8)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: CurseoftheGods on August 18, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
This generation blows. Both the 360 and PS3 have their fair share of problems (mainly being shitty hardware and macrotransactions for the 360, shitty games library for the PS3). I am not even going to start on the Wii, which is probably the worst Nintendo system I have owned.

I don't see the point of taking part in this generation's console warz.

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 04:03:49 PM
What's happening to USSSSS?

Dfyb is happening to us.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 18, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
What's happening to USSSSS?

Dfyb is happening to us.

But what exactly is he doing wrong? Disagreeing with people?

ooohhhh! for shame
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
MAF, can you make console warz stuff permabannable?
I think MS' days of outselling the PS3 are over. With the price drop, they may get a small boost for a month or two, but when you look at the factors of,

-Most people that want a 360 already have one.
-RROD is still keeping people away.
-Multiplat games becoming more and more even with the 360.
-Lowered Price point.
-Its still a blu-ray player. (the best one you can get).

You can see why its outselling the 360.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
though, i thought that was a joke post -- was it?  you seemed to be serious
[close]
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: BamYouHaveAids on August 18, 2008, 04:09:06 PM
MAF, can you make console warz stuff permabannable?
and for god sake ban anyone that trolls the official too human thread.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 04:10:27 PM
I don't moderate the Gaming Forum usually, as a rule; mail lyte-edge about it.

Just for future reference: A stupid person will not be banned for being stupid. We will not ban someone for not agreeing with you. However, we can set the course for the general course gaming discussions, but then that would make us GRRR EVIL GAF MODS WHO CONTROL EVERYTHING.

The forum's members largely dictate the world they live and play in by deciding who they talk to.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 04:12:37 PM
MAF, can you make console warz stuff permabannable?
and for god sake ban anyone that trolls the official too human thread.

Yeah, nobody likes a party pooper
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 18, 2008, 04:16:53 PM
it's okay, evilbore groupthink is powerful enough to where you guys will agree with anything i disagree with.  it's hilarious. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 04:17:56 PM
it's okay, evilbore groupthink is powerful enough to where you guys will agree with anything i disagree with.  it's hilarious. 

I dub your think, 'retardthink'
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
Now you guys are asking for tougher moderation? What happened to the old "piss on all idols" mantra? Or does that only work when the idols belong to another tribe?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: BamYouHaveAids on August 18, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
MAF, can you make console warz stuff permabannable?
and for god sake ban anyone that trolls the official too human thread.

Yeah, nobody likes a party pooper
you could still have a party. it would just be different, you know, the angry kind. a mob.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Bocsius on August 18, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
The only question I have is why. Why argue over something so meaningless? I mean, I'm not going to act like I haven't done it (been there, done that, got old, etc). But come on. Some of yall have been system warriors for two or three generations now. And why? They're just video games. Xbots and Stards and Ninthings get all offended over stuff that shouldn't matter to anybody. It's not your hive, quit defending it.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 18, 2008, 04:29:52 PM
Now you guys are asking for tougher moderation? What happened to the old "piss on all idols" mantra? Or does that only work when the idols belong to another tribe?

If youre honestly worried, don't.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 04:31:01 PM
What's happening to USSSSS?

Dfyb is happening to us.

But what exactly is he doing wrong? Disagreeing with people?

ooohhhh! for shame

Hey, i know you and him are running a lil tag team operation atound these parts so stfu
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 04:31:49 PM
The only question I have is why.

Because it's sort of fun, sometimes. Less so this generation, but still.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Bocsius on August 18, 2008, 04:34:55 PM
The only question I have is why.

Because it's sort of fun, sometimes. Less so this generation, but still.


I can see that, to an extent. The give-and-take can be fun. But I can't see how the system warriors enjoy any of this as they get way too upset and post for days and days defending whatever as if life and limb depended on it.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 18, 2008, 04:39:54 PM
What's happening to USSSSS?

Dfyb is happening to us.

But what exactly is he doing wrong? Disagreeing with people?

ooohhhh! for shame

Hey, i know you and him are running a lil tag team operation atound these parts so stfu

I like your posts better on gaf. You should go back.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 04:40:34 PM
Zero Hour dishing out the ownage... WrikaWrek crying in a corner wiping his butt with socks
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2008, 04:45:59 PM
honestly, as far as actual games go, i have no real complaints this gen, i have enjoyed most of the games i have bought or rented - even if i never finished them

i'm enjoying mario galaxy right now, even though mario is a fat lazy wop who always has to ride some poor helpless animal on some ridiculous track like water floating in the air and that manta ray race is a bunch of goddamned stupid waggleshit always falling off fuck you mario
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: CurseoftheGods on August 18, 2008, 04:50:37 PM
Oops. nvm
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 18, 2008, 04:51:29 PM
Why did Zero Hero change his avatar from Gayness to SUPER Gayness?
I didn't like it. But I changed it again before I saw this.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 04:57:59 PM
What's happening to USSSSS?

Dfyb is happening to us.

But what exactly is he doing wrong? Disagreeing with people?

ooohhhh! for shame

Hey, i know you and him are running a lil tag team operation atound these parts so stfu

I like your posts better on gaf. You should go back.

Easy there Zero, you're cutting deep. ffff

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: ananus on August 18, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
i'm sorry to go offtopic from whatever it is the topic, but this gen is as shitty as it gets. the ps3 failed in pretty much any aspect imaginable, while the xbox 360 has all the microsoft problems of too much for too little and a shitty library, just not as shitty as the rest.

i still remember when graw and oblivion came out, and everyone trying to justify their purchases. omg graw is awesome, omg oblivion, omg gears. now no one even remebers those games. bioshock, gta, mass effect and whatever else i'm forgetting just keep getting overrated and later on people realize what the games where after the hype. not that this didn't happen before, it just wasn't as bad.

and then there are the diminishing expectations. when the ps3 and x360 failed to live up to the tech demos, everyone was suddenly okay with the crappier graphics. when gta4 failed to live up to the hype/name, everyone started looking forward to saints row 2. when people realized there were like 5 next jrpgs coming out, they started hyping lost odyssey and infinite undiscovery.

half the games that get praised this gen wouldn't even get any attention if they were released alongside the good stuff of last gen. i guess everyone is too busy with the trolling to notice though.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 18, 2008, 05:18:47 PM
I think you overrate last gen.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 18, 2008, 05:19:32 PM
I think you overrate last gen.

word.


Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Rman on August 18, 2008, 05:24:46 PM
Console wars stuff doesn't personally bother me.  I just don't why people get so worked up about consumer electronics companies.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 05:45:50 PM
shut up moran
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 18, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
We didn't have any console wars only the fun & games bashing of stupid games and stupid devs before S-Army Rejects came here.

Now it's kind of like back on GAF.

And it's boring :-\

That's absolutely the most GAFish post I've read all week. Good job, Borys.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 18, 2008, 06:34:34 PM
Unless you own stock in Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo and not just a couple hundred bucks worth but several thousand, there is no reason for you to give a fuck about console sales.  It must suck for all the shills to be sucking the virtual cock and not get a single cent from it while actual Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo marketing employees are too busy spending their days flirting with the AA with the new fake tits.  You guys lose.

We didn't have any console wars only the fun & games bashing of stupid games and stupid devs before S-Army Rejects came here.

Now it's kind of like back on GAF.

And it's boring :-\

That's absolutely the most GAFish post I've read all week. Good job, Borys.


I disagree.  A Gaffot post would be "facepalm.gif" and "Wow, just wow."  We're not quite there...yet.

Although I do despise the martyr attitude adopted by so many Sfags.  Reminds me of Game Cube fans and Dreamcast fans of old.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 18, 2008, 06:36:57 PM
home is the new silver bullet, coors light owned

i dunno why i laughed at this :lol
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: laesperanzapaz on August 18, 2008, 09:00:33 PM
i am here
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Purple Filth on August 18, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
What the fuck is happening here?

I though you guys were the anti-gaf?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: pilonv1 on August 19, 2008, 12:08:26 AM
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why can't people on this forum take other member's posts for what they are instead of misconstruing them to fit their agenda? 


... because you are already known to be a liar with an agenda?

The general ethic around here, joking aside, is that any game is open game and the "you are a fanboy" fall back bullshit has remained just that.

It would be a lot easier to give you slack if your opinion wasn't a simple black and white "SONY AWESOME/MS ALL SHIT". There are hardly any posters on here who are so clearly binary with their preference, who are unable to see any fault in their chosen platform, who will lie and spin bullshit to prop up their illinformed asshat agenda.

So that is why you are standing out like a big flashing distinguished mentally-challenged fellow becon, then your 2-3 hangers on flinging in with what amounts to "you go girl! Up the Sony!" just makes it all the more laughable that you are unable to "get" what is going on.


beautiful, just beautiful
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2008, 12:59:51 AM
i'm sorry to go offtopic from whatever it is the topic, but this gen is as shitty as it gets. the ps3 failed in pretty much any aspect imaginable, while the xbox 360 has all the microsoft problems of too much for too little and a shitty library, just not as shitty as the rest.

i still remember when graw and oblivion came out, and everyone trying to justify their purchases. omg graw is awesome, omg oblivion, omg gears. now no one even remebers those games. bioshock, gta, mass effect and whatever else i'm forgetting just keep getting overrated and later on people realize what the games where after the hype. not that this didn't happen before, it just wasn't as bad.

and then there are the diminishing expectations. when the ps3 and x360 failed to live up to the tech demos, everyone was suddenly okay with the crappier graphics. when gta4 failed to live up to the hype/name, everyone started looking forward to saints row 2. when people realized there were like 5 next jrpgs coming out, they started hyping lost odyssey and infinite undiscovery.

half the games that get praised this gen wouldn't even get any attention if they were released alongside the good stuff of last gen. i guess everyone is too busy with the trolling to notice though.

Going a tad further than I would, but word. PS2 4 lyfe

edit: and dcharlie dominates
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Positive Touch on August 19, 2008, 01:05:36 AM
seriously.  with the last gen there was just a flood of great games coming out during most of the generation.  no matter what you liked there was always a big variety of quality titles to pick from.  nowadays it seems like we get to choose between overpriced rehashes of last gen's big titles and overpriced shallow flash games.  Two years in and the horizon just seems to have nothing but blandness, while in the here-and-now we sit around talking about digital shits like Lair and Too Human.  I HATE THIS GEN
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2008, 01:32:02 AM
I will also like to add that for as much shit that I will give the Wii, unless Nintendo really fucks up the 'core' gamer and release more shit like Wii Fit, that the Wii will probably have a better line up than the Gamecube.  Super Mario Galaxy is far better than Sunshine, and most of the other Wii made games are superior as well (we have yet to see an actual Wii Zelda).

Not to mention that the current portable gen has produced far better games than GBA.  Both DS and PSP have great line ups.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 01:36:50 AM
Not to mention that the current portable gen has produced far better games than GBA.  Both DS and PSP have great line ups.

Really?  I thought the GBA had lots of great 2d games.

PSP is my first handheld and its library is mostly composed of ports that played better on the PS2.  

I can't say anything about the DS though, since I only owned for a few months (gave it to my sis).  
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 01:40:16 AM
Quote
why can't people on this forum take other member's posts for what they are instead of misconstruing them to fit their agenda?  


... because you are already known to be a liar with an agenda?

The general ethic around here, joking aside, is that any game is open game and the "you are a fanboy" fall back bullshit has remained just that.

It would be a lot easier to give you slack if your opinion wasn't a simple black and white "SONY AWESOME/MS ALL SHIT". There are hardly any posters on here who are so clearly binary with their preference, who are unable to see any fault in their chosen platform, who will lie and spin bullshit to prop up their illinformed asshat agenda.

So that is why you are standing out like a big flashing distinguished mentally-challenged fellow becon, then your 2-3 hangers on flinging in with what amounts to "you go girl! Up the Sony!" just makes it all the more laughable that you are unable to "get" what is going on.

closest thing i've done to 'lying' is that halo 3 incident back on GAF, which was ancient and i even apologized, despite the fact that i never really lied about anything.  

you're not the only one on bore or GAF who has convinced themself that differing opinions must be attributed to corporate or brand name fanboyism.  i'm not saying there aren't true fanboys who will stick with a company or game through any situation, but i'm not one of them.  i've been called a gamecube fanboy, a ps2 fanboy, a PC fanboy, and more recently a sony fanboy; it just depends on the current conversation and it can all be attributed to people like you who can't properly cope with differing opinions.  it's a matter of policy and game library for me (though, you may be too arrogant to think someone could possibly prefer different games legitimately without this described agenda  ::)).  sony and microsoft do have a difference in policy, and unless microsoft and sony decide to swap policies, i will trend toward siding with sony more often because their current policies are more agreeable with me.  but when microsoft does something that i think is great, like achievements or to allow installing games to the hdd, i have no problem praising those (yes, i've been an achievement proponent from the beginning).  and when sony pulls a qore, i speak against that, too.  but you conveniently decide to disregard these instances.  it's very convenient for you to reply with the same trolls over and over.  this is a phenomenon i've seen a few times on forums and it's quite amusing.  

you want an example of someone spinning bullshit?  how bout the OP of this thread, who claims i think MS is doomed with the last NPD -- even on Bore's own NPD thread, i was predicting MS would likely take back 2008 in the fall.  but according to you, what i really meant by "MS will likely take back 2008 in the fall" is "MS is DOOMED."  (http://upload.dfyb.net/uploaded/cran.gif)

this is a very common theme on bore and gaf.  i am accused of saying things i didn't say, i call them on it, and they reply with "we all know what you really meant!"  it is pathetic and amazingly immature.   

it doesn't get much more hypocritical than this.  you lie in the form of false accusations.  you're spinning my posts to fit your agenda under the justification that my posts are...  somehow not what they are and that i have some hidden agenda that you've decided exists  ::).  that it's okay to disregard what my posts actually say because apparently you already know what they really mean because of my secret agenda.  

it doesn't get much more sad than that.  well, until you fabricate another false persona to preach against.  
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2008, 01:40:53 AM
Not to mention that the current portable gen has produced far better games than GBA.  Both DS and PSP have great line ups.

Really?  I thought the GBA had lots of great 2d games.

PSP is my first handheld and its library is mostly composed of ports that played better on the PS2. 

I can't say anything about the DS though, since I only owned for a few months (gave it to my sis). 

GBA was still great, but more than half of the great games were ports.  Seriously.  I don't know how many people even realize how lazy some of the games on GBA were.  There wasn't a single new Mario game on it, and instead you had ports of them all.  I still really liked that a lot of games were them going back to the SNES style, like with Mario Kart and F-Zero, and there were a bunch of other great original games, but compared to the amount of quality titles of both the PSP and DS combined, I don't think it stands up.

And I still do consider the Gameboy Micro the best 'portable' gaming device there is.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 19, 2008, 02:13:24 AM
Its not worth even talkin to him bout it, he'll just spin shit like fox news
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 02:18:19 AM
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closest thing i've done to 'lying' is that halo 3 incident back on GAF, which was ancient and i even apologized, despite the fact that i never really lied about anything. 


lol - so why apologise if you didn't lie going to the extent of saying you didn't even know why you did it and enforcing a self ban on yourself? You're even lying about what went down - you flat out said you played Halo 3 and it was utter garbage, it later transpired you hadn't played it -at all- but your friend told you it was shit. smfh.
i said something to the extent of "halo 3 isn't AAA."  i was then asked for my gamertag, and i had said something to the extent of "i don't need to own a gamertag to play it" -- this is not, as you stated, "flat out saying I played Halo 3."  i apologized because i indirectly implied to have played it with that statement.  i took a vacation from GAF because i was wasting too much time and getting too wrapped into forum drama.  in my apology, i think my wording included the word "lie" -- mainly to avoid further drama, and hell, it was close enough to a lie and i didn't originally intend to mislead anyone.  if i was simply asked "did you play it?", i would have not hesitated to say no.  i was merely pointing out that it was possible for someone to have played it without owning a gamertag.  by any measure, it was a mistake, and i admitted to it. 

Quote
sony and microsoft do have a difference in policy, and unless microsoft and sony decide to swap policies, i will trend toward siding with sony more often because of the similarities policy.

hahaha fuckoff, you know fuck all about either policy except what you chose to believe in your own bullshit filled head.
prime example of how weak and immature you are.  this is exactly the sort of bullshit i describe in the second half of my post -- you trying to tell me what i'm supposed to know and think :lol.  this is pathetic. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 19, 2008, 02:26:19 AM
I dont think anyone here is qualified to present policy, anyone who pretends they can are retarrrrdo
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 02:29:42 AM
Dfyb, do you even have Orange Box for your PC? 

Otherwise, all you talk of being a PC gamer is just BS.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 19, 2008, 02:31:50 AM
Most -normal- people usually try something before building an opinion on something.

Oh come on now, that's just plain not true. Granted that I wouldn't call any one of us here normal, but that's some pedestal that you're putting even genuinely normal people on. To use a recent example, do you really think everyone who have declared Haze crap actually played it before forming that very certain opinion of it?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 02:32:57 AM
Duckman, I've played and beaten every PS3 game that I've panned.  :rock
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 02:33:01 AM
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prime example of how weak and immature you are.  this is exactly the sort of bullshit i describe in the second half of my post -- you trying to tell me what i'm supposed to know and think .  this is pathetic. 


so okay, tell me exactly what MS's and Sony's "policy" is for this gen because i have no idea on either of them?
there's obviously not a way to describe a singular policy that defines their entire approach.  it's a matter of individual policies.  play online for free vs play online for a fee.  have a proprietary size limit for digital downloads or let the developer decide.  there's countless examples.  right after what you quoted, i had given examples where i supported microsoft policy and voiced against sony policy.  
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 19, 2008, 02:34:23 AM
Duckman, I've played and beaten every PS3 game that I've panned.  :rock

Well, have you ever panned them before playing them? That's what I'm referring to. On second though, that might, however, not be what DCharlie is talking about. I'm unfamiliar with the backstory here.
Title: dfyb, let me be real with you for a minnit..
Post by: MCD on August 19, 2008, 02:36:01 AM
If I ever saw you on the street...

If I ever saw that disgusting looking mug of yours walking down the street, I'd beat the living shit out of you. I'm dead serious. You make me sick. You're the most disgusting human being I've ever come across online. Never has an Internet persona made me sick to my stomach. That's how I feel when I read one of your totally incoherent posts.

You make me cringe. You're, bar none, the worst poster this community has ever had. It's no coincidence that you're also the dumbest motherfucker this community has ever had.

Every time I see that you're actively posting, I want to close this tab and take a fucking shower. I'm DEAD serious. That's how absolutely disgusting you are.

For my own safety and well-being, I ask that you please not respond to me anymore. Your illiteracy is contagious. You're an absolute abomination in every sense of the word.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MCD on August 19, 2008, 02:41:33 AM
for sure.

epic copy pasta

:bow (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/dzilla82/chowzilla.jpg) :bow2
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Vizzys on August 19, 2008, 02:42:31 AM
shit was SO cash
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 02:45:12 AM
Most -normal- people usually try something before building an opinion on something.
are you claiming that you don't have an opinion on unreleased games?  or that you don't come into a game with an opinion?  most of evilbore's opinion of LBP is that it's not AAA and it won't sell, but they haven't played it (and i defend their right to state that opinion).  i may have recklessly stated it in an 'absolute' manner, but in the end it's not too different from anyone else voicing their opinion over an unreleased game.  halo 3 was only a couple days old at that time, and regardless, you'd have a pretty weak argument trying to say it's somehow TOTALLY different when it's an unreleased game vs a newly released game someone hadn't played yet.  

if i replaced "halo 3" with "too human" in my statement and posted it in the too human thread here, it would go unbothered (unless dyack registered here).  it was only a problem because halo 3 was popular then.  
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: duckman2000 on August 19, 2008, 02:47:19 AM
... this is for JustinP right? Juuuuuuust checking before the XFE has to get his hanky out  :'(


Seriously. At first I thought he was talking to me, so I started reading my post over again, and I didn't think it was that bad.  :lol

So, what's the dfyb Halo 3 affair all about it?
Title: Re: dfyb, let me be real with you for a minnit..
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 02:48:29 AM
If I ever saw you on the street...

If I ever saw that disgusting looking mug of yours walking down the street, I'd beat the living shit out of you. I'm dead serious. You make me sick. You're the most disgusting human being I've ever come across online. Never has an Internet persona made me sick to my stomach. That's how I feel when I read one of your totally incoherent posts.

You make me cringe. You're, bar none, the worst poster this community has ever had. It's no coincidence that you're also the dumbest motherfucker this community has ever had.

Every time I see that you're actively posting, I want to close this tab and take a fucking shower. I'm DEAD serious. That's how absolutely disgusting you are.

For my own safety and well-being, I ask that you please not respond to me anymore. Your illiteracy is contagious. You're an absolute abomination in every sense of the word.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2ms08w7.jpg)

just write me a deathnote  :-*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that is such a god awful show

avatar looks like it's from deathnote but hell, i could be wrong. 
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So, what's the dfyb Halo 3 affair all about it?
first half of reply #142 explains it

edit: and while i hadn't (still haven't) played halo 3, i had bought and played through both halo and halo 2.  even competed in halo 1 (PC) at CPL one year, although that was more of a joke team with a friend and his TFC clan mates. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Positive Touch on August 19, 2008, 02:50:46 AM
and everyone who posted an opinion on Haze before playing it i'd say were being distinguished mentally-challenged dicks, same with Too Human, same with GT5P, same with anything.

The fact that people do it en masse doesn't excuse the behaviour as acceptable - it's stupid.


puh-leeze.  while playing the game is of course the best way to form an opinion, you can also look at gameplay demos and read impressions to get a decent idea of what a game will be like.  i never played Haze, but I thought the stuff they showed pre-release looked fucking abysmal.  now sometimes we'll have to eat crow, but i'd say the majority of the time you can get a pretty good idea of what a game is like without ever touching it.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MCD on August 19, 2008, 02:51:21 AM
it is from DN.

i loved season 1 even though it had it's weak moments, season 2 is meh.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 02:59:46 AM
Dfyb, do you even have Orange Box for your PC? 

Otherwise, all you talk of being a PC gamer is just BS.
i was going to PrtScrn my steam games list, but even stretched all the way, you can't see all my games without scrolling. 

yeah, i have orange box on steam.  i preloaded it as soon as it was possible.  i played through portal as soon as it was possible (about 3am here, iirc) -- same for Half-Life 2 on steam (skipped a day of class to play through that).  i was toying around with making TF2 maps using community-created config files before orange box had even officially released, during the TF2 beta.  my steamid is probably one of the lowest on this forum, though i don't know it by heart (used to know my wonid when i was into competitive CS :lol)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: JustinP on August 19, 2008, 03:17:32 AM
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or that you don't come into a game with an opinion?  most of evilbore's opinion of LBP is that it's not AAA and it won't sell, but they haven't played it (and i defend their right to state that opinion)

did people say it wasn't AAA? I can see people saying it won't sell but i didn't recall seeing people saying it's not a AAA game.
"is overrated" is pretty much the same as stating "is not AAA," and LBP has definitely been called overrated here. 

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i may have recklessly stated it in an 'absolute' manner

it's the absolute nature of statements i'm getting at.
i clarified that i wasn't stating an absolute opinion in that thread.   

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but in the end it's not too different from anyone else voicing their opinion over an unreleased game.  halo 3 was only a couple days old at that time, and regardless, you'd have a pretty weak argument trying to say it's somehow TOTALLY different when it's an unreleased game vs a newly released game someone hadn't played yet.

(place holder) will have to reread a few times, not sure what your argument is. In middle of somethign at work.
i'm just saying that there's only two different kinds of opinions you can express over a game --

1. before you've played it, your interpretation of reviews, previews, impressions from others, footage you've watched, etc
2. after you've played it, your impressions from the actual experience

whether or not the game has come out is not really important.  just whether you've played it or not, which will put the opinion into one of the two groups. 

and again, i tried to make it clear that it was a non-final, before-playing it, tentative opinion. 

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puh-leeze.  while playing the game is of course the best way to form an opinion, you can also look at gameplay demos and read impressions to get a decent idea of what a game will be like.  i never played Haze, but I thought the stuff they showed pre-release looked fucking abysmal.  now sometimes we'll have to eat crow, but i'd say the majority of the time you can get a pretty good idea of what a game is like without ever touching it.
in Haze's case, they had the weight of a good pedegree behind them, so there wasn't any particular reason to think it would be a bad game, early footage i thought didn't look too bad. The demo was run of the mill, the final game ... yeah. The difference in this case though is a statement like "Halo 3 isn't AAA" ... that's a whole new level.
if someone said "halo 3 isn't AAA" now, it wouldn't be a big deal.  even on GAF, halo 3 appearing as GOTY gets tons of disagreements without a significant response to contest the disagreements.  again, it was only a huge deal back then because halo 3 was popular. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Tundra on August 19, 2008, 04:21:56 AM
Some people here should really cool down a little bit.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: laesperanzapaz on August 19, 2008, 05:01:14 AM
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Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 08:21:24 AM
ahuahau shittybore's comeuppance is come

retreat sfans to the tower. the noncrumbling one that is ms' thrown-in towel
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 08:29:45 AM
Too many posts in this thread

Talk to me when you can beat BCR on Super Hard
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 09:47:44 AM
Civ 4 rocks.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 09:49:13 AM
Too many posts in this thread

Talk to me when you can beat BCR on Super Hard

Btw, I have beat BCR on Super Hard

I am the greatest gamer on these boards
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 09:49:59 AM
What the fuck is BCR anyway.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 09:50:16 AM
The sock you use to wipe your pooper
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 09:59:18 AM
Hey it feels good.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 10:00:31 AM
Sorry?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Wolf Gang on August 19, 2008, 10:10:01 AM
LittleBigPlanet is definitely not a casual game, but it has the strongest chance of any PS3 game to appeal to the casuals being vetted for real gaming by the Nintendo Wii.

I think that LittleBigPlanet will be the gateway drug to high-definition for those people still stuck in the 20th century where remote controls are "revolutionary".

By the way, WrikaWrek is the biggest Xfag I've ever had the displeasure of reading. The way he waxes poetic about Xbox Live is Shakespearean in its depth. Europe is Sonyland, and I think he's an European trying way too hard to be an American.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 19, 2008, 10:12:33 AM
Fuckin A, what a start to the week EB. I'm gassing already.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
Sorry?

why would you be sorry?

Its not your contributions that i lol'd at.

I wasn't even talking to you asshat. I was talking to Demi. That's why i said "sorry?", like "i wasn't even talking to you" type of thing. ur ur ur
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 10:47:06 AM
Sorry?

why would you be sorry?

Its not your contributions that i lol'd at.

I wasn't even talking to you asshat. I was talking to Demi. That's why i said "sorry?", like "i wasn't even talking to you" type of thing. ur ur ur

What a piece of shit.

Yo momma
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Sorry?

why would you be sorry?

Its not your contributions that i lol'd at.

I wasn't even talking to you asshat. I was talking to Demi. That's why i said "sorry?", like "i wasn't even talking to you" type of thing. ur ur ur

What a piece of shit.

Yo momma

no u

i deed it
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 10:50:49 AM
This thread is stupid... can a mod lock it. These threads bring out the stupid in people.

Actually just delete it instead
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2008, 12:05:10 PM
for sure.

epic copy pasta

:bow (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/dzilla82/chowzilla.jpg) :bow2

Where the hell did he go?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Tabasco on August 19, 2008, 12:08:51 PM
ahuahau shittybore's comeuppance is come

retreat sfans to the tower. the noncrumbling one that is ms' thrown-in towel

if i knew you were around i'd of put you in the op  :gun
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Himu on August 19, 2008, 12:09:29 PM
I agree with this article
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Mrbob on August 19, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
This is pretty much the worst console war ever.

At least the PS2/DC days had personality.  Or the mean middle school streets of the SNES/Genesis days.  Hardcore sega fanboys are crazy and it always made a lively discussion.

Drohne is right.  People arguing for the sake of arguing between ps3/360.  Both systems have the same damn games with nary a difference now.  It is like fantasy football players arguing over which fantasy team is better when 95 percent of the players are the same. 

I personally prefer the PS3 now for a variety of reasons beyond games (hardware works, blu ray movies, hdmi makes games look sharper, built in wifi), but it doesn't change the fact someone else can get nearly the same type of gaming experience on 360.  Developers aren't making exclusives anymore, so get the game for the system you want and be happy. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 08:14:57 PM
ahuahau shittybore's comeuppance is come

retreat sfans to the tower. the noncrumbling one that is ms' thrown-in towel

if i knew you were around i'd of put you in the op  :gun

don't cry for me argentina

the truth is i never really left you
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
Whatever, Drohne might be eloquent but he's still fulla crap.  Almost everyone with both systems knows that the 360 is the better system for gaming.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 08:22:11 PM
Eh, both systems are about the fucking same.

My collection says differently!

Also, 360 pad >>>>>>>>>>> DS3/Sixaxis
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 08:22:22 PM
where everyone else goes after their GAF ban is up.

No.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2008, 09:02:13 PM
My collection says differently!

Also, 360 pad >>>>>>>>>>> DS3/Sixaxis

I honestly think I am one of the few people who likes the DS3 on the same level as the 360 pad (tho I do have those R2/L2 caps).  I thought the PS2 controller for FPS games was atrocious, but I haven't had any problems with the DS3; I even consider UT3 on the PS3 to have the best FPS controls on consoles.  I like the softness and, at least what seems to be, more analog range than the 360 pad (basically distance from deadzone to outer wall).

I still think the Xbox s controller is probably the best controller for 3D games, and I wish I could use it on my 360.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 09:05:18 PM
Xbox controller S was cool but had worse B+W button placements and worse rumble than the current 360 pad.  For last gen, I definitely preferred the Dualshock 2 but maybe that's because there were less FPS games on the PS3.  The PS3 pad is my least favorite controller ever for FPS games because of its squishy triggers and loose sticks. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
cry more shittybore

the hardcore console
the hardcore games
the best system specs
the online service

third place

hauhauhauhauhauahua
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2008, 09:12:59 PM
I didn't mind the black and white buttons too much since they were usually option buttons and not action buttons.  I think the S controller has the best fit to my hand, and both the triggers and analog sticks feel much better than the 360 pad.  The D-pad, while not great, is also  much better than the 360 pad (although I only did the sand mod and not the plastic push up mod for it).

I remember how let down I felt when I first played PGR3 on my 360 the first day and really wishing I could be using my S controller.  I still really like the 360 controller and think it is number 2, and I also consider the DS3 number 2 also (with the caps), but none of them match up to the S for me.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2008, 09:17:07 PM
cry more shittybore

the hardcore console
the hardcore games
the best system specs
the online service

third place

hauhauhauhauhauahua

the fuck is wrong with you
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MCD on August 19, 2008, 09:19:07 PM
it's the truth.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2008, 09:21:01 PM
i'm sure 2nd place will be adequate compensation for bankruptcy
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:21:29 PM
What, now I can't troll you duders?

go back to your serious discussion of which games are LOL and which games are BETTER ON 360

I'll go back and sit in the corner.

(it's still the truth)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 19, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
(http://www.hfstival.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10148/NeoWhoa.jpg)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:bow drohne, y2kev for icon :bow2
[close]
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:23:57 PM
i'm sure 2nd place will be adequate compensation for bankruptcy

HONOR has no PRICE

king kennnnn
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2008, 09:25:42 PM
2nd place doesn't mean much when the gap between 1st and 2nd will be in the tens of millions, and the gap between 2nd and 3rd  might be as little as one million
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:31:13 PM
2nd place doesn't mean much when the gap between 1st and 2nd will be in the tens of millions, and the gap between 2nd and 3rd  might be as little as one million

lol, like numbers are important to trolling? what the fuck indeed.

the point, perhaps, is that despite the fact that the 360 is a much better games machine than the ps3 (and the wii, of course), i think ultimately it won't matter and that the typical QQers should continue to QQ here and across the internet.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 09:36:24 PM
No surprises here. Always knew Y2KEV was a distinguished effete gaf-fot. :punch
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
i dunno, i'm not into trolling, i have no idea what's important and what isn't
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:37:45 PM
No surprises here. Always knew Y2KEV was a distinguished effete fellow. :punch

AHUAHUAHAUHA SALTY WATER DROPLETSSSSSs

i dunno, i'm not into trolling, i have no idea what's important and what isn't

tiki taco
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2008, 09:40:04 PM
we don't have those around here
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
they are so good omg

and yes i am a distinguished effete fellow.

what the hell, now gaf.fot is blocked?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 19, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
Yeah, WTF

Blocking GAF-FOT is super gay. 

Blackstallion that filter please!
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
Is a Tiki Taco a Hawaiian taco?
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 19, 2008, 09:50:33 PM
yeah, i get them down the shore
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Brehvolution on August 19, 2008, 11:00:28 PM
Yeah, WTF

Blocking GAF-FOT is super gay. 

Blackstallion that filter please!

:rofl
Can't fake the funk on a nasty filter.
 :lol
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 11:01:17 PM
the filter still applies... haha
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 19, 2008, 11:02:54 PM
It doesn't matter if you win my 100 million units or by one unit, at the end of the day it only matters that you won.

Ask Vin Diesel.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 19, 2008, 11:07:41 PM
ATTENTION DROHNE

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38548.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38548.html)
Does "in your face bitch" count as smug vulgarity? Yeah

:bow sfags :bow2

Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 20, 2008, 09:33:14 AM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/900/900487p1.html

MS not doomed, because they are releasing a new controller with fixed D-Pad!
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: MCD on August 20, 2008, 09:53:25 AM
from the pictures, it looks like the sanding fix.

and it's limited too.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 20, 2008, 10:06:04 AM
I"d just wait for the SF4 pad. 
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: cool breeze on August 20, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
It looks a bit raised up as well.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: y2kev on August 20, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
which one of you is jtyettis
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2008, 10:28:13 AM
says it has an eight-way input, but cosmetically is the same

i'll stick with the two cheap madcatz controllers i have, which, surprisingly for madcatz, have better d-pads than either the 360 or the ps3 (the sticks suck, though)
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 20, 2008, 10:34:28 AM
Why come everyone just complains about d-pads?  Even if the d-pad is fixed, the button placement still kinda sucks for fighting games.

Where are the high quality arcade sticks that our Japanese counterparts get? 

I think I'm just gonna have to save some money and get a stick from arcadeinabox when they finally come up with something that's compatible with both PS3 & 360.
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2008, 10:37:12 AM
the d-pad was horrible for oblivion, and any game which uses it as a quick-weapon select, so it's not just fighting games
Title: Re: arstechnica, dfyb, and drohne agree: MS is Doomed
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 20, 2008, 10:40:24 AM
True. The 360 dpad has been a mild annoyance in DMC4 on the PC ever since I began the Dante levels.  Every now and then, I switch to the wrong mode.  Luckily, on the PC, I have the option of switching to a Dualshock2.