Every member has her own plans for November, including for a few, voting for Obama. Co-founder Amy Siskind, a former Wall Street exec and Clinton fundraiser, told me, "I won't vote for Obama, but I'm not sure what I'll do." Cynthia Ruccia, a Democratic activist from Columbus, Ohio, who twice ran against Republican John Kasich, is supporting McCain -- and organizing other Democrats in her swing state to do likewise.
I'd like to know where these geniuses stand on the issues.
I'd like to know where these geniuses stand on the issues.
They don't. They only support(ed) Hillary because she's a woman.
"Nasty Cunts" is what they are called, I believe.
Obama, Clinton, or Mccain; it's like flushing the same toilet with a different handle.
It seems to me most of these woman think she only failed because she was a woman when she failed for a whole lot more. It's like why have Siebel as VP when Hillary is already there argument? Maybe because as a woman she brings different attributes to the table.
It seems to me most of these woman think she only failed because she was a woman when she failed for a whole lot more. It's like why have Siebel as VP when Hillary is already there argument? Maybe because as a woman she brings different attributes to the table.
Haha, most of them are unwilling to admit she failed at all. They think (I don't like using that word in reference to these people, but oh well) that the nomination was stolen from her by the big bad men. smh.
Obama, Clinton, or Mccain; it's like flushing the same toilet with a different handle.
While this is true to an extent, at least in Obama's America there are sewers to carry the shit away.
In Ron Paul's Libertopia, you would have to pay the inevitable singular Corporate Entity that would own everything an exorbitant amount of money just to flush the toilet!
While this is true to an extent, at least in Obama's America there are sewers to carry the shit away.
Because sewers dont exist outside of socialism. ::)In Ron Paul's Libertopia, you would have to pay the inevitable singular Corporate Entity that would own everything an exorbitant amount of money just to flush the toilet!
What funny is that you dread a monopoly from some corporate entity (which by the way monopolies go against everything the free market stands for) yet fail to realize this insult of a singular Corporate Entity" exists. It's called the government and you want to give it more power. You HAVE to pay a city owned service for all of our waste whether you want to or not. You have no choice. So really you just owned yourself.
Overblown.Yeah, otherwise McCain would be doing much better.
FoC, the only alternative to government monopolies of water utilities is government-granted monopolies, which haven't worked out well in Argentina, for example. Water and wastewater infrastructures need to be shared and the costs need to be shared as well.
Except that the government monopoly isn't driven by the profit motive
and in a democracy there's some mechanism to make them responsible to the consumers.
As flawed as it might be you don't have either of those things in an unregulated private monopoly.
Where as in a free market your voting ballet is your wallet which you use every day. If you dont like a company then you change to a better one.
Where as in a free market your voting ballet is your wallet which you use every day. If you dont like a company then you change to a better one.
Which you couldn't do if the company had a monopoly on a vital resource.
Monopolies occur in free markets ::)
Whether the breakup of Standard Oil was beneficial is a matter of some controversy. Many economists agree that Standard Oil was not a monopoly, citing its much reduced market presence by the time of the antitrust trial. They also argue that the intense free market competition resulted in cheaper oil prices and more diverse petroleum products for consumers.
Standard's market share fell gradually to 64% by 1911. It did not try to monopolize the exploration and pumping of oil (its share in 1911 was 11%).
There is no doubt that Standard Oil had a huge market share through the use of shady deals but by the time the Sherman Anti Trust act came around. Many other independent oil companies were emerging.
Also a few neat tidbits of information.
"Rockefeller owned a quarter of the shares of the resultant companies, and those share values mostly doubled, he emerged from the dissolution as the richest man in the world."
"The price of Kerosine dropped more than 50% during Standard Oils heyday."
I have a hard time imagining how competing corporations would build multiple sewer systems in a single neighborhood in minarchist or anarchist society and compete for costumers.
this is what happens when dogma overrules common sense, folks
FoC, we're not a free market anymore. We're a herd market. The consumer no longer dictates what succeeds and what fails, the modern consumer just plain consumes without much question.
FoC, we're not a free market anymore. We're a herd market. The consumer no longer dictates what succeeds and what fails, the modern consumer just plain consumes without much question.
FoC, we're not a free market anymore. We're a herd market. The consumer no longer dictates what succeeds and what fails, the modern consumer just plain consumes without much question.
Exhibit A: Nintendo Wii
FoC, we're not a free market anymore. We're a herd market. The consumer no longer dictates what succeeds and what fails, the modern consumer just plain consumes without much question.
QuoteFoC, we're not a free market anymore. We're a herd market. The consumer no longer dictates what succeeds and what fails, the modern consumer just plain consumes without much question.
So what you are saying is that people aren't responsible for themselves?
Oh, FOC. You provide endless amusement. I always wonder how FOC is IRL.
Then have people ever been responsible for themselves?
Oh, FOC. You provide endless amusement. I always wonder how FOC is IRL.
take a guess
:facepalm
What dont you understand about.
Monopolies are not a free market.
Monopolies are not a free market.
Monopolies occur in free markets ::)
In a free market anyone can challenge the monopoly by providing a better product or service...
In a government provided service you have very little to no way of challenging them. "Oh dont like the long wait at the DMV? Next."
i am taking responsibility for you by trying to educate you
society is not just you and me
If someone monopolizes a natural resource which can not be mass-produced it would be impossible to challenge them. If Malek's company United Polack owned all the water, how would you create a competing sewage system?
The free market is a way of distributing resources and encouraging their development which can sometimes be very efficient. But it can not change fundamental facts about scarcity. It is not magic.
Sometimes I wonder is FoC even steps out of his house and interacts with the world outside it.
Sometimes I wonder is FoC even steps out of his house and interacts with the world outside it.
Funnily enough, I'm willing to bet that of everyone on the forum I interact with society the least.
Sometimes I wonder is FoC even steps out of his house and interacts with the world outside it.
Funnily enough, I'm willing to bet that of everyone on the forum I interact with society the least.
*coughs*
Sometimes I wonder is FoC even steps out of his house and interacts with the world outside it.
Funnily enough, I'm willing to bet that of everyone on the forum I interact with society the least.
*coughs*
I dunno dude. I've gone about 10 days in the past month without speaking to another flesh and blood human being. Top that if you can.
society is not just you and me
Sounds like your passing the buck. Gee that sure is easy to do when no one is responsible for themselves or anything at all.
at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
When United Polak bought all the air.
don't be so uselessly binary. it's not an either-or proposition, even though you'd love to frame it as such in your shallow, clueless little world. people are responsible for themselves AND for others. at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
don't be so uselessly binary. it's not an either-or proposition, even though you'd love to frame it as such in your shallow, clueless little world. people are responsible for themselves AND for others. at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
Are you going to commit suicide now that you realize that you are responsible for all my libertarian rantings? How can you live with yourself knowing you have created such a monster??
Don't forget FoC's near total reliance on Wikipedia
don't be so uselessly binary. it's not an either-or proposition, even though you'd love to frame it as such in your shallow, clueless little world. people are responsible for themselves AND for others. at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
Are you going to commit suicide now that you realize that you are responsible for all my libertarian rantings? How can you live with yourself knowing you have created such a monster??
Because you didn't create or popularize libertarianism yourself, others are partly responsible for your present views. You aren't a solitary individual; you need others to create and transmit things like language, technology, customs, and political ideas. However, you are ultimately an autonomous agent, and responsible for what views you choose to hold.
Don't forget FoC's near total reliance on Wikipedia
don't be so uselessly binary. it's not an either-or proposition, even though you'd love to frame it as such in your shallow, clueless little world. people are responsible for themselves AND for others. at what point did you assume every man operates in a vacuum?
Are you going to commit suicide now that you realize that you are responsible for all my libertarian rantings? How can you live with yourself knowing you have created such a monster??
Because you didn't create or popularize libertarianism yourself, others are partly responsible for your present views. You aren't a solitary individual; you need others to create and transmit things like language, technology, customs, and political ideas. However, you are ultimately an autonomous agent, and responsible for what views you choose to hold.
Fine, You aren't a solitary individual; you need others to create and transmit things like language, technology, customs, political ideas, and Wikipedia articles, which you can cut and paste.
Truly, FoC stands on the shoulders of midgets.
the more i think about it the more i'm convinced FoC=Drinky joke character
:lol :lol(http://i37.tinypic.com/140wveo.jpg)
You guys never fail to amuse me.
the more i think about it the more i'm convinced FoC=Drinky joke character
Surely a man with a 283 IQ could create a better joke character.
Overblown.
There are a few crazies who deeply internalized the Obama vs. Clinton struggle and can't move on. Plus there are legit gripes about the way Hillary was treated in some parts of the media (especially cable news) which some of her supporters unfairly attributed to Obama's campaign.
But Obama's thumping McCain among women and all the middle aged white feminists I know in real life and online are seriously invested in beating McCain.
APF and Crushed need to hate-fuck.
this would be a spiritual experience; we can't cheapen it with money.