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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 08:43:18 PM

Title: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 08:43:18 PM: Fuck the haters. I've never been so excited to go home every day and play a game than I have been with Shenmue.

Why do people hate this game? I've heard complaints about it being "boring," but there are very few times when you're stuck waiting for awhile, and even then you can just hang in the arcade or something. And apparently that problem (not being able to skip time) is fixed in Shenmue 2 (which I still need to get a hold of, grr).

I especially love the forklift bit. I dreaded getting a job because I thought it would be boring as fuck (like irl lol), but it's really fun and the time passes by really fast - perhaps too fast. :\

Shenmue is awesome.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Rman on August 22, 2008, 08:54:18 PM: shenmue is a good game, not great IMHO.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: cool breeze on August 22, 2008, 08:55:39 PM: I am a big Shenmue fan, and I can totally understand why the haters hate. In fact, the end of Shenmue 2 is probably one of the saddest moments in gaming for me since I will never know the continuation of the story after that point.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: The Sceneman on August 22, 2008, 09:05:26 PM: I fucking love Shenmue, lets do this Threepwood

youre going to be a great addition to this forum.

But yeah Im with swaggaz in saying the hate is derserved. The game isnt for everyone, thats for sure. I think its great though, one of my favorite games
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 22, 2008, 09:06:54 PM: Shenmue 2 had a three hour walk through a forest at the end. 3 hours, real-time. Timed it myself.

Just one of the many thousands of reasons this series sucks.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: pilonv1 on August 22, 2008, 09:08:11 PM: I love shenmue
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: cool breeze on August 22, 2008, 09:10:22 PM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 22, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
Shenmue 2 had a three hour walk through a forest at the end. 3 hours, real-time. Timed it myself.

Just one of the many thousands of reasons this series sucks.

That scene was amazing, especially after all you went through to get there. The stark comparison with other environments you have been in was also amazing.

Is Shenmue 2 BC on the 360?
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 09:10:39 PM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 22, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
Shenmue 2 had a three hour walk through a forest at the end. 3 hours, real-time. Timed it myself.

Just one of the many thousands of reasons this series sucks.

Ah yes, I saw your thread on GAF.

Indigo Prophecy is better than Shenmue? I assume you only played through the first third of the game.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Greatness Gone on August 22, 2008, 09:11:57 PM: Against.

Bitches need to stop praying for Shenshit and get on the Space Channel 5 Part 3 hope train.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: pilonv1 on August 22, 2008, 09:13:23 PM: Why can't I want Shenmue 3 AND SC5 part 3?
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 22, 2008, 09:15:38 PM: Because one terrible game does not a good game make.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:20:16 PM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 22, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
Shenmue 2 had a three hour walk through a forest at the end. 3 hours, real-time. Timed it myself.

Just one of the many thousands of reasons this series sucks.

Fuck you man. That walk was awesome, it was so pretty, calm, never done before in a videogame, super immersive.

Shenmue haters can go suck donkey cock.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Greatness Gone on August 22, 2008, 09:25:24 PM: Quote from: pilonv1 on August 22, 2008, 09:13:23 PM
Why can't I want Shenmue 3 AND SC5 part 3?

You'll never, ever get Shenmue III. EVER. Plus, Shenmue I & II were horrible. Space Chanel 5 is an amazing series. PLUS, Ulala has been featured in both the new Sega Tennis game and she's in the new Samba de Amigo. SC5 III is much more likely to happen.

Btw Sega, I need Space Michael in SC5 III plz.

[youtube=425,350]9pnCvZ-yBOs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 22, 2008, 09:27:18 PM: I liked Shenmue back when I played the Dreamcast a lot. I don't remember ever getting too far in it, but the world and the atmosphere of it all was really great.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:28:43 PM: Quote from: dcharlie on August 22, 2008, 09:24:31 PM
I enjoyed Shenmue 1 as an experience but not so much as a game, and anyways Yakuza rendered Shenmue pointless i'm afraid...

Too bad Yakuza sucks.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: GilloD on August 22, 2008, 09:31:44 PM: I was so outside of myself with excitement when this game came out. And I ADORED it. But I can tell you that I would HATE HATE HATE it today.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Crushed on August 22, 2008, 09:31:58 PM: an incredible and artistic experience

(http://i37.tinypic.com/4k8o7r.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2zfltao.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/16mp84.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/w9fxnk.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/s339er.jpg)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/16h9jsg.jpg)
"Oh sailors..."

(http://i34.tinypic.com/zvomxf.jpg)
"MY SHEETS!"

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Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:32:50 PM: Yeah i wouldn't wanna play it again. I mean, the controls must suck dick, the graphics must be horrendous, and the voice overs will probably sound even worse now.

Edit;

Hey crushed, you're a nintendo fan. That's as cigarillo as it gets.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Greatness Gone on August 22, 2008, 09:36:46 PM: Quote from: Crushed on August 22, 2008, 09:31:58 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/s339er.jpg)

Saved for future use.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:38:26 PM: Quote from: dcharlie on August 22, 2008, 09:36:10 PM
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Too bad Yakuza sucks.

it could be better than it is , but even in it's current state it's basically Shenmue with all the aimless wandering removed.

Shenmue without Martial Arts = Fail. Shenmue rocked because of the martial arts, and the story around it.

Yakuza is about gangster beating eah other with bats. Fuck that.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Crushed on August 22, 2008, 09:38:41 PM: Quote from: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:32:50 PM
Hey crushed, you're a nintendo fan. That's as cigarillo as it gets.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/jg1ouc.gif)
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Positive Touch on August 22, 2008, 09:40:42 PM: the vast majority of the game is spent asking people a never-ending series of stupid questions that build up to about as much of a story as most games have in the first 30 minutes, all done with voice acting that is on par with the original Resident Evil. really the only thing worth doing in the game is going to the arcade to play Space Harrier, a game that is ten million times better than that $70 mil shitfest
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 22, 2008, 09:41:03 PM: Against.

I appreciate what Suzuki was doing with the game but it wound up being very boring and repetitive. The voice acting and the dialog was somewhat grating at times and when it is a game like Shenmue, that means a lot more than the grating voice acting and writing of Sonic Adventure. Another downside is that it aged quickly as within a couple of years, there were a lot of big box games that did the job better than Shenmue I and II. I wonder if the technical limitations held back Shenmue a lot more than people think. If games like State of Emergency and Grand Theft Auto III (not the best examples but hey...) were more wide open and had more thing to do and were released in a short time without the massive budget, I think that if Shenmue were released on the PS2 or Xbox at the very beginning, the game would have been a lot different.

Never really played it after I beat it several years ago but even picking it up for a bargain bin price at EB, it still felt aged. The biggest downfall was that the game aged way too fast, which was unfortunate, given the vision and the budget allotted towards this game.

Never got Shenmue II in spite of seeing the Xbox version go for $5 several times.

If there would be a Shenmue III, it would have to be an entirely different game than the first two. The bar has risen considerably since then, especially for "sandbox" games. It would probably be too expensive so I understand if it never actually happens.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 09:44:44 PM: Quote from: WrikaWrek on August 22, 2008, 09:32:50 PM
I mean, the controls must suck dick, the graphics must be horrendous, and the voice overs will probably sound even worse now.

1. When I booted the game and was finally able to move around, I thought the controls were pretty awful as well. But as you play the game, you simply get used to the controls and they work great.

2. The game still looks really good. The only problems are the huge amount of pop-in and the slowdown (some in Dobuita, a lot in Yokosuka Harbor).

3. The voice overs are pretty bad, but they have a certain charm to them.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 22, 2008, 09:45:00 PM: I own the LE of Shenmue 1 and the xsux version of Shenmue 2 and never got farther than an hour into both games. Here's the parts I quit at:

S1: "Have you seen any sailors?"
S2: "Would you like to play a game of lucky hit?"

I never got to actually fight in any of the shenmues. Terrible games.

SC5 is also pretty bad too. Unresponsive simon says shit.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Greatness Gone on August 22, 2008, 09:47:23 PM: Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on August 22, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
SC5 is also pretty bad too. Unresponsive simon says shit.

WRONG.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 22, 2008, 09:48:59 PM: I meant the gameplay. I love the charm, but it's just so bad gameplay wise.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 09:53:00 PM: Quote from: The Experiment on August 22, 2008, 09:41:03 PM
Post

I see what you're saying, but I totally disagree.

The worlds in modern GTA games and other sandbox games may be much bigger than the world of Shenmue, but in their size they lose the amazing detail of Shenmue. One of the main reasons (probably the main reason) why people love Shenmue is the game's atmosphere. Shenmue has a level of detail that no other game has been able to immitate.

Even the $100 million GTA IV doesn't come close.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 22, 2008, 09:55:01 PM: You mean black dudes dancing in the middle of china talking in a jamaicain accent?

That's some fucking attention to detail. ::)
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Crushed on August 22, 2008, 10:01:28 PM: Quote from: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
2. The game still looks really good.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2zfltao.jpg)
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 10:04:07 PM: Quote from: Crushed on August 22, 2008, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
2. The game still looks really good.
Guy in blue camo pants who is really hard to kill for some reason

Fine, you have to put on these

(http://www.fenichel.com/TimesSqGlasses2.jpg)

But it still looks good regardless.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 22, 2008, 10:04:21 PM: lock and delete this thread, it taints this forum
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: DJ_Tet on August 22, 2008, 10:08:48 PM: I have Shenmue II english from Europe.

That meant more before Shenmue II came out on xbox, but it's still the gem of my DC collection. Unfortunately it's really hard to play cause my bootup disc stopped working.

I never played it much because I always got bored in Shenmue 1 and never beat it.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Akala on August 22, 2008, 10:57:27 PM: You know what? I kinda liked Shenmue when it came out. But it was a fucking embarrassment to play in front of anyone.

I was pretty exciteable about games back then and was totally hyped for it. My roommate was a pretty big gamer too, and I got him hyped to hell. Then we started playing it...soon after that he laughed at me and went out. I ended up completing the game, never knowing if Ryo would ever find Lan Di or the Sailors. I had mixed feelings about the game, and strangely wanted to see more. But it didn't really matter. Everyone but the hardcore contingent thought it was rubbish, and honestly the only reason it endeared itself to us was blatant fanservice and unmatched (if unrealized) ambition. It didn't really hold up to repeat playthroughs, and after a while...I stopped caring.

Years later, when the "second chapter" came out on Xbox, I avoided it completely. I eventually grabbed it on impulse in a bargain bin a year or so later, but never got more than an hour or so in. It was too archaic. Too bleh. Too Shenmue.

I actually fired it up last time I hooked up the DC and got maybe 10 minutes in before I switched to Seaman. SEAMAN.

Sorry, but I can't even muster the nostalgia.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: drohne on August 22, 2008, 11:00:08 PM: i secretly kind of like shenmue -- it's like a weird personal game from a mildly autistic designer that somehow got an immense budget and brought down its publisher. plus i played through it in japanese using the dregs of a semester of college japanese, so it really felt like visiting a bumfuck japanese town nobody would ever visit. still haven't played shenmue II, though i've had the european dc version sitting around for years
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: DJ_Tet on August 22, 2008, 11:34:41 PM: I remember being so excited to learn how to fight, because I had followed the game since it had started as a Virtua Fighter RPG. I got to that part in the game probably 4 times, and rarely played past it. My add couldn't stay focused on such a mundane game, as much as I wanted to really enjoy the world.

I still remember the series fondly, however. The opening movie in Shenmue is so epic, and the best looking thing I've seen out of my Saturn.

Quote from: drohne on August 22, 2008, 11:00:08 PM
still haven't played shenmue II, though i've had the european dc version sitting around for years

Same. I tested it to make sure it worked, but I wasn't going to touch it until I finished the first game. It was obvious at that point the game wasn't coming out in the US (for DC anyway) and I had stolen so many DC games that I didn't feel bad about buying a little piece of history so to speak. I never finished the first game so I never started the second.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2008, 11:53:31 PM: Fuck yeah, Mue rox
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 23, 2008, 12:08:26 AM: For.

Despite it's flaws, I enjoyed Shenmue I & II, and would play a third one if it was ever made.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: UnoIllNino on August 23, 2008, 01:08:35 PM: Its funny. That game cost a hojillion dollars to make, right? With current tech, you could make a sequel that would look awesome and play better for less than half the price of the first game.

I'm still holding out hope that one day we'll get a 3rd one. I don't think its likely, but you never know. They could be scraping the barrel for ideas one day and decide to go for it. Maybe by then it'll be a distant memory and nobody will remember if it was good or bad, but just that it was a big deal in its day.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 23, 2008, 01:11:44 PM: you people should be banned from gaming
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: tiesto on August 23, 2008, 01:14:56 PM: Really liked Shenmue for the time period... not sure how it would hold up today. But I remember being drawn into that game's world like no other game at the time, thought the graphics were amazing, even if lots of the things like "I'm looking for some sailors!" was silly. First game I bought with my Xbox1 was Shenmue 2 but I never played it.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 23, 2008, 01:21:46 PM: immersion is for big fruity flipwrist fagtrons

real men don't play pretend
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 23, 2008, 01:32:36 PM: I've never played a Shenmue game.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Crushed on August 23, 2008, 01:33:56 PM: if solid snake and ryo hazuki met, i wonder who would repeat the other's sentences more
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 23, 2008, 02:38:49 PM: Ryo would just think Snake is a sailor and offer a game of lucky hit.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Crushed on August 23, 2008, 02:40:26 PM: "Would you like to play a game of lucky hit?"
"Lucky hit?"
"Would you like to play?"
"Play? I don't have time for games."
"Games?"
"I have to get back to my mission."
"Mission?"
"Yes, Metal Gear."
"Metal Gear?"
"METAL GEAR!?"
"My father?"
"Father? BIG BOSS?"
"Big Boss?"
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 23, 2008, 02:44:15 PM: "Are you well versed in the form woo du?"
"CQC"
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 23, 2008, 04:26:46 PM: Most annoying shit in MGS.

Somebody says shit and that distinguished mentally-challenged fellow always has to repeat it, but in quasi rehtorical question mode.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: cool breeze on August 23, 2008, 04:57:25 PM: It was the worst in MGS1 and 2 where it was always like:

"Snake, that guard has diarrhea."
"diarrhea? hmm..."

then it loads a life action cut scene of something as it is explained.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 23, 2008, 05:07:30 PM: It's like who wants to see a movie where they explain the point fifty times in twenty hours?
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 23, 2008, 05:32:42 PM: I never really noticed that in MGS... I did notice it in Shenmue, though.

I like when you talk to Goro about the Mad Angels

Ryo: What can you tell me about the Mad Angels?
Goro: Ssh, don't say that name so loud!
Ryo: What do you know about the Mad Angels?
Goro: No maan, you can't say that name around here!!
Ryo: Do you know anything about the Mad Angels?
Goro: Did you hear what I just said!? They'll kill you just for talking about them!
Ryo: So about the Mad Angels...
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: John Dunbar on August 23, 2008, 08:09:39 PM: I'm a massive Nintard and even I can't deny Shenmue I and II are some of the best games ever. Fuck the haters.
Title: Re: Shenmue - Stand and be counted
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 23, 2008, 08:28:54 PM: Best if you enjoy mindless, meaningless games.