"There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden," McCain campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said in a written statement.
"Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be president."
I don't think that's true, though.
I was following the whole thing pretty closely and I don't remember Biden sticking it to Obama. I'm sure he must have tweaked him at some point but if a legendary quote machine like Biden was strongly opposed to Obama we would have seen at least a couple overblown news cycles about it.
i bet he was BIDEN his time for this nom!
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you don't know how long i was waiting to say that
you have no idea
GIRL LET ME TOUCH U
Biden's a fucking badass. I've always liked him. Had he been the DEM nominee I probably would have voted for him.
Just don't get the pick since Biden represents just about everything Obama has been running against this entire campaign.
Best of both worlds?
Bad pick, further chipping away at the reason everyday people are excited about Obama: a fresh face, nice guy, not a firebrand, who was right about the war. I see the entire purpose of manipulating media hype over the pick--but putting the announcement so close to the convention--as an attempt to stop the possible hemorrhaging caused by this choice, which I guess is a strong tactical maneuver but also underscores how ridiculous it is. I do however like the fact that this is another data point in my, "Obama is W'08" argument, but it's a Pyrrhic victory at best; you go with the candidate / President you have, not the etc etc you etc.
This 08 election is turning out weird--people are definitely charged up, but they're charged up about an enormously boring race that has been more about the utter unseriousness of the media, coupled by an endless cascade of gaffes and fumbles by everyone running. The reality is completely overshadowed by the noise.
/disappointed
Bad pick, further chipping away at the reason everyday people are excited about Obama: a fresh face, nice guy, not a firebrand, who was right about the war. I see the entire purpose of manipulating media hype over the pick--but putting the announcement so close to the convention--as an attempt to stop the possible hemorrhaging caused by this choice, which I guess is a strong tactical maneuver but also underscores how ridiculous it is. I do however like the fact that this is another data point in my, "Obama is W'08" argument, but it's a Pyrrhic victory at best; you go with the candidate / President you have, not the etc etc you etc.
This 08 election is turning out weird--people are definitely charged up, but they're charged up about an enormously boring race that has been more about the utter unseriousness of the media, coupled by an endless cascade of gaffes and fumbles by everyone running. The reality is completely overshadowed by the noise.
/disappointed
Picking a "fresh", inexperienced face would backfire more than picking a Washington "insider" - who actually isn't an insider. If he picked say Kaine people would complain about the youth and experience of the ticket. I would much rather have the media - because honestly they're the only people who'll complain about this - complaining about him picking an experienced, "old Washington insider" than have voters becoming even more worried about Obama's lack of experience
Biden is popular with the voters who will decide the election. He's going to secure Penn. and be very popular in Ohio and Michigan. There wasn't a better choice available. Obama said it best: he's spend decades bringing change to Washington, but Washington hasn't changed him.
Not many posts in here to judge by comparison, but PoliGAF was pretty infuriating today and this seems better tonight. Nice to see SOME decent back and forth over here. Too bad not many people are participating in this one.
Quite the opposite actually. Biden's a hothead who loves to hear himself talk.Same as McCain but it hasn't hurt his chances. I want McCAin to chose Bobby Jindal just because he's a crazy converted Catholic.
You still sore over Obama-is-the-antichrist thread?
Thanks for the insight.
what sayeth you, Mandark?
And you are...?David Spade.
what sayeth you, Mandark?
I'm still basking in the afterglow of avoiding Evan Bayh. Woulda been hard talking myself into that pick.
Yet on a chaotic election night in Indianapolis, when Clinton’s staff was panicking about the excruciatingly slow count of votes in Obama-friendly Lake County, Bayh seemed powerless to scare up inside information.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12629.html
To the amazement of several Clinton insiders, he sat in a holding room, hunched over a laptop, hitting the “refresh” button over and over on a newspaper website’s interactive vote tracker in a state he was supposed to dominate.
“He’s a great guy, but he couldn’t even get the scoop on the results in his own state,” said a Clinton supporter who witnessed the scene. “He was just waiting around like everybody else. It seemed like he didn’t really have the juice we thought.”
I liked him until I found out about the Liberation of Iraq co-chair thingie, plus this
what sayeth you, Mandark?
I'm still basking in the afterglow of avoiding Evan Bayh. Woulda been hard talking myself into that pick.
I'm not a fan. Biden is the one responsible for the creation of the Drug Tsar, and he was one of the main supporters of the R.A.V.E. act. His positions on drug policy have set the country back decades.
Watching Biden today you get a sense of why he was picked. He's going to be a great attack dog for Obama. But, at the same time, I think they run the risk where he could end up being so good at it that he completely overshadows the main dude who in effect looks like a complete pussy.
Mr. Biden, meanwhile, was viewed as undercutting himself with his own behavior as reporters staked out his Delaware residence. When Mr. Biden returned home in his white pickup truck from a garbage dump and made an off-color joke to camera crews last week, an e-mail message circulated among Mr. Bayh’s closest associates that read, “Keep talking Joe, please keep talking.”lol
He did not.
But Mr. Obama was seeking a running mate with whom he would be comfortable governing for four or eight years, a bit of advice Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts had given him.
My mom told me she isn't voting for Obama now because of the Clarence Thomas thing.
Can I have her deported even though shes a US citizen?
My mom told me she isn't voting for Obama now because of the Clarence Thomas thing.
Can I have her deported even though shes a US citizen?
You know, in the back of my mind I kinda wish Mccain wins.
The hilarity will be without precedent.
one week of lulz; four years of tearz
Being cynical I'd want McCain to win, he'll have a tough four years ahead of him with the economy, Russia, Iraq and Afghanistan. With that the American public would interpret Republican = failure for along time to come.
I'm not a fan. Biden is the one responsible for the creation of the Drug Tsar, and he was one of the main supporters of the R.A.V.E. act. His positions on drug policy have set the country back decades.
clarence thomas *is* an awful sc judge, though. obama is spot-on. the only place obama mis-stepped was in suggesting that scalia was smarter. frankly, there is no judge stupider than scalia -- sorry, obama.
IMO the last eight years were really about Bush's inadequacy not the Republican party as a whole. Having McCain fail would indite the whole Republican party as something fundamentally wrong with their philosophy. It may get people to actually think about what the Republican party stands for.
I'm not a fan. Biden is the one responsible for the creation of the Drug Tsar, and he was one of the main supporters of the R.A.V.E. act. His positions on drug policy have set the country back decades.
Not far enough. Kill up all dem druggies.
one week of lulz; four years of tearz
Most unlikely.