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Title: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 04, 2008, 10:22:21 PM: Ohhh yeah blow shit up!
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 04, 2008, 10:30:08 PM: MUST NOT CLICK ON BUY BUTTON ON PLAY ASIA

too late
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 04, 2008, 10:31:55 PM: I think it's great fun, but i can't believe this is what pandemic turned out after 3 years. must have been some development hell or something.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 04, 2008, 10:34:31 PM: Musta, but at the very least im not regretting it like Infinite Bumdiscovery or GTA4
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: demi on September 04, 2008, 10:40:50 PM: Quote from: y2kev on September 04, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
I think it's great fun, but i can't believe this is what pandemic turned out after 3 years. must have been some development hell or something.

It's always been in dev hell
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 04, 2008, 10:53:42 PM: Wait for Just Cause 2.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: drohne on September 04, 2008, 10:54:50 PM: i still have the first mercs game sitting around in shrink wrap somewhere :-\
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Post by: cool breeze on September 04, 2008, 10:55:43 PM: I can't wait for Just Cause 2. Both that and the Mercs games satisfy my appetite to go crazy on everything.

And Red Faction 3 is shaping up to be another one of those games.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 04, 2008, 10:58:15 PM: Quote from: drohne on September 04, 2008, 10:54:50 PM
i still have the first mercs game sitting around in shrink wrap somewhere :-\

1st one is a lot of fun too.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 04, 2008, 11:13:28 PM: so much better than GTA4
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Post by: Mrbob on September 04, 2008, 11:27:31 PM: Its a fucking PS2 game. :(

But yeah, it is better than GTA4.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 04, 2008, 11:29:05 PM: I dunno it looks better than say, bullet witch. Lets be real guys.
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Post by: Vrolokus on September 05, 2008, 12:39:42 AM: It lacks in technical polish, but it's just too goddamned fun to worry about it.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 01:03:54 AM: I took out some outposts tonight. I love strapping C4 to a truck fulla morons haha I need to try and strap one to a person
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: pilonv1 on September 05, 2008, 01:17:04 AM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 04, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
Wait for Just Cause 2.

:-* agreed

lol @ region locked co-op. YOU FAIL EA
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: bork on September 05, 2008, 01:32:13 AM: Quote from: pilonv1 on September 05, 2008, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 04, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
Wait for Just Cause 2.

:-* agreed

lol @ region locked co-op. YOU FAIL EA

Ugh, it does? Guess I'm playing single player since I don't know any other J-bores that have it.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: pilonv1 on September 05, 2008, 01:46:41 AM: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12657140&postcount=818

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"Connection failed. The player you are attempting to play with is in a different region than this one."
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: demi on September 05, 2008, 01:47:13 AM: NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH YOUR SHIT AUSTRALIAN CONNECTION
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: pilonv1 on September 05, 2008, 02:08:59 AM: i didnt post that

i wouldnt buy this shit anyway
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: TVC15 on September 05, 2008, 02:35:07 AM: Quote from: y2kev on September 04, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
I think it's great fun, but i can't believe this is what pandemic turned out after 3 years. must have been some development hell or something.

Yeah. While I'm totally enjoying the game, and it is an improvement over the original, this (along with most of their output) makes me question Pandemic's ability.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 02:35:52 AM: I still dont know why they start you off in a boat in the worst possible location in terms of the game looking good. The water looks much better pretty much everywhere else in the game.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on September 05, 2008, 08:20:49 AM: I wish it controlled more like a pure third person shooter, or even Battlefront. The aiming feels just a little off. This is way better than GTA IV though, in spite of its technical shortcomings.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 05, 2008, 09:51:03 AM: The game is fun.

But seriously, it looks like it was made under a small team with a small budget, this shit looks ROUGH.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 10:02:45 AM: I wonder why EA bought them...is it just because they were forced to when they bought BioWare?

I'm actually curious why they bought BioWare AND pandemic....both of them have very low outputs.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: GilloD on September 05, 2008, 10:18:23 AM: My copy is in the mai.l. Can we co-op together?
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: dark1x on September 05, 2008, 10:21:46 AM: Quote from: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 10:02:45 AM
I wonder why EA bought them...is it just because they were forced to when they bought BioWare?

I'm actually curious why they bought BioWare AND pandemic....both of them have very low outputs.
I believe Bioware and Pandemic had already joined forces back in 2005 and I don't believe EA could have simply selected to buy one of them for that reason. It was all or nothing.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 05, 2008, 10:29:41 AM: Quote from: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 10:02:45 AM
I wonder why EA bought them...is it just because they were forced to when they bought BioWare?

I'm actually curious why they bought BioWare AND pandemic....both of them have very low outputs.

They bought them because it was a package deal. To buy Bioware, they had to buy Pandemic.

Mercs 2 is rough, Dark Knight got cancelled...i wouldn't be surprised to see Pandemic simply disappear in a couple of years.

But at least i got a PC version of MErcs 2, that was cool.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 10:35:27 AM: Pandemic is like one of those Gearbox companies that has six games in dev at once and you never see any of them really mature.

They had this, Dark Knight, Saboteur, and I think one other project in development.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: cool breeze on September 05, 2008, 10:49:05 AM: Yeah, but they were like that last gen also, and their game still turned out great (although I wasn't that into Destroy All Humans).
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 05, 2008, 12:08:50 PM: Mercs 2 and Just Cause are brothers from a different mother, but in the end I think I had a better time with Just Cause even though I was mainly just dicking off in that game. Mercs 2 definitely gives me more stuff to do and I inherently love any game with destructable environments but the rough looking engine along with the endlessly repeating dialogue are driving me up the fucking wall.

I want the land variety and destruction of Mercs with the graphics and size of Just Cause. That's all I want. Give it to me Just Cause 2.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: jiji on September 05, 2008, 12:16:52 PM: First one got old as soon as I tried most of the vehicles. It never really felt like I had any effect on the world. Will this one be the same? Just Cause was the same way.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: gamerecks on September 05, 2008, 12:31:59 PM: Quote from: jiji on September 05, 2008, 12:16:52 PM
First one got old as soon as I tried most of the vehicles. It never really felt like I had any effect on the world. Will this one be the same? Just Cause was the same way.

Mercs 2, everything stays how you leave it when you play.

I love co-op.

PSN: gamerecks
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Kestastrophe on September 05, 2008, 01:08:54 PM: Pandemic is doing LoTR: Conquest (aka Tolkein: Battlefront).
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: TVC15 on September 05, 2008, 01:11:15 PM: Quote from: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 10:35:27 AM
Pandemic is like one of those Gearbox companies that has six games in dev at once and you never see any of them really mature.

They had this, Dark Knight, Saboteur, and I think one other project in development.

I dunno. Their record looks pretty solid to me. There are no AAA games here, really, but most of them are at least really solid and fun:

   * Battlezone II (1999)
   * Dark Reign 2 (2000)
   * Triple Play 2002 (2002)
   * Army Men RTS (2002)
   * Star Wars: The Clone Wars (video game) (2002)
   * Full Spectrum Warrior (2004)
   * Star Wars: Battlefront (2004)
   * Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005)
   * Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction (2005)
   * Destroy All Humans! (2005)
   * Destroy All Humans! 2 (2006)
   * Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (2008)

Lots of those were big sellers, too. I don't see why they'd be in trouble just because they've plateaued at "good" rather than "great."

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lol 2002 really wasn't their year
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Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 01:14:12 PM: I haven't played a lot of those, I guess. Mercs and Battlefront. They're okay games.

They weren't ever in trouble, per se, I just don't think I'd buy them if I were EA (but as I understand, they had to). A lot of those games probably sold well because of the Star Wars licenses too. Wonder why Lucasarts dropped them.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: cool breeze on September 05, 2008, 01:17:49 PM: Everything before The Clone Wars is new to me, but everything after I played and enjoyed.
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Post by: dark1x on September 05, 2008, 01:34:29 PM: Quote
Mercs 2, everything stays how you leave it when you play.
Really? So if you destroy a structure somewhere earlier in the game it will remain as such throughout? If so, that's pretty awesome.

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Everything before The Clone Wars is new to me, but everything after I played and enjoyed.
You might like Battlezone 2. I LOVED the 1998 Battlezone game and the sequel wasn't bad either. It's a shame the "straction" genre died off so quickly. It really was a beautiful mix of RTS and shooting gameplay. Modern day technology could really enhance the concept even further.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: y2kev on September 05, 2008, 01:45:49 PM: The nice thing about Mercs 2 is that the framerate is really solid.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 03:52:19 PM: Quote from: dark1x on September 05, 2008, 01:34:29 PM
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Mercs 2, everything stays how you leave it when you play.
Really? So if you destroy a structure somewhere earlier in the game it will remain as such throughout? If so, that's pretty awesome.

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Everything before The Clone Wars is new to me, but everything after I played and enjoyed.
You might like Battlezone 2. I LOVED the 1998 Battlezone game and the sequel wasn't bad either. It's a shame the "straction" genre died off so quickly. It really was a beautiful mix of RTS and shooting gameplay. Modern day technology could really enhance the concept even further.

This is half true. Outposts and areas you take out tend to stay aligned with whatever faction you helped, or stay relatively barren (aka no buildings full of rocket launcher guys anymore) but buildings come back for sure when you load a game, and possibly even when you die and your character 'reloads'. I ran into a tree this morning and it fell on my truck, and soon disappeared.

The games explosions and destruction are fun to watch, but the damange does not persist.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2008, 03:55:49 PM: Online coop only, right?

I'm tempted to get it, but I'm hoping for a price drop or something.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: cool breeze on September 05, 2008, 04:02:21 PM: I almost want to check out Battlezone 2 now.

And to be perfectly honest, the damage in Mercs 2 doesn't really impress me at all anymore. It is weird, since a lot of it is on the same level as the Crysis destruction (huts made of various metal, trees that break, etc), but it is all so amateur compared to even the Red Faction 3 gimped beta/multiplayer damage model. Red Faction 3 damage is incredibly awesome. Mercs 3 should be a joint venture between Volition and Pandemnic.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 04:11:37 PM: Yeah, you can make it so any game you start single player is joinable by your friends, or anyone, or no one.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2008, 04:17:20 PM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, you can make it so any game you start single player is joinable by your friends, or anyone, or no one.

I'm one of those old timers who wants split-screen coop. Only one of my friends has a system (PS3), and he pretty much only plays Pain, so the majority of our gaming time is spent at my house.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on September 05, 2008, 04:50:32 PM: holy fucking shit i think im gonna have an aneurysm from this game. i am on the eva driving mission and everytime i take the ramp and use jump it flips my vehicle :maf :maf

yup, really close to throwing my controller
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 05:05:58 PM: Quote from: Kestastrophe on September 05, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
holy fucking shit i think im gonna have an aneurysm from this game. i am on the eva driving mission and everytime i take the ramp and use jump it flips my vehicle :maf :maf

yup, really close to throwing my controller

What vehicle are you using? Some of the cars handle sooooo bad, and some handle soooo good.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2008, 05:55:08 PM: YOU GUYS SUCK!

I'll probably stop by the store today and pick myself up a copy.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on September 05, 2008, 05:56:21 PM: I figured it out MAF, but I agree. The bikes are awesome to drive but alot of the cars are ass.

I am fucking hating this right now. I am trying to recruit the jet pilot, and I have to call in helo pickups on some bomb stash. Thanks for fucking telling me that I don't have a helicopter you fucking piece of shit game. It must have been destroyed, i dont know how, but it must have cuz its not showing up in inventory. anyways, it has let me get all the way to the bunkerbusters and it even lets me press the Y button to initiate the steal. After waiting for a few minutes I finally look in my pda to see that i don't have a helo. Shit game is shit

Im gonna keep playing it, which is more than I can say about GTA IV, but this fucking blows. How do I repair my helicopter or get a new one?
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2008, 08:34:30 PM: Your helicopter pilot shouldnt die, least ive never seen him die, and ive called him in during some crazy shit. Generally they just run away when the zone is hot. Repairs come out of your funds automatically. Tho I am not entirely clear on how you equip/unequip stuff from the radial menu.

If youre talking about the oil companies various choppers you need to free an outpost for them and then you can access their shop and do missions for them to unlock the stuff like tank drops.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 08, 2008, 07:35:37 PM: Haha the mission to recruit the mechanic rocks (racing her mosnter car through the mine loaded with troops). I also loved the mission where the business guy has to destroy papers and you take him from warehouse to warehouse. So much boommmm.
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Post by: demi on September 08, 2008, 07:38:38 PM: i read on gamefaqs, lots of glitched achievement issues going on

got me SCARED, i cant handle that kind of pressure
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 08, 2008, 07:39:32 PM: like what kind of glitches? I havent had any yet, but ive just been getting the main ones and a few by accident
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Post by: demi on September 08, 2008, 07:49:05 PM: Some people reporting they get like 340 points worth of achievements out of the blue... some of the endgame achivements not popping up
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 08, 2008, 07:52:42 PM: wow, that IS weird haha, im not that lucky. The rocket fueled monster car rocks.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 08, 2008, 07:54:21 PM: Ok wait, I got the Little Savage achievement when I was blowing stuff in a tank, thats an RPG achievement. Either I got it late, or yeah, wrong one lol.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: demi on September 08, 2008, 07:57:34 PM: Heres some random threads on glitches

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45339808

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45338461

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45299297

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45287165

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45282042

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=932882&topic=45262605
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 08, 2008, 08:00:47 PM: Yeah it'd suck for someone trying to perfect it. Its a pretty fun game tho. Makes up for GTAcrap
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 09, 2008, 10:31:27 PM: Just did online with prole, you get 50 achievements for hooking up with someone online to play. We got a few of his missions done and I still got CASH....enough to cover all the people I ran over at least.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2008, 11:04:47 PM: hahaha, that was a really polished co-op experience

the helicopter shenanigans and BAD ASIAN DRIVING made me lol, it was like being in a low budget joe esterhaz/michael bay collaboration
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 09, 2008, 11:08:11 PM: i'd never flown the chopper before! Im not great in vehicles but I own the ground!
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2008, 11:13:15 PM: yeah, you were a killing (and resuscitating) machine! we blew some shit up REAL good
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Post by: cool breeze on September 09, 2008, 11:15:29 PM: The helicopter is the only real way to travel. The best is that you can jump from any height and you only take 98 damage.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2008, 11:16:12 PM: yeah, i laughed when i plummeted yet remained alive despite a good 10 seconds of freefall
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 09, 2008, 11:42:13 PM: Its really great how well it performed. The only glitch was during a cutscene I was in Mercs 2 hell, which is a barren wasteland that exists below the world. I looked up and I saw the mansion, but when I looked at the horizon I saw nothingness, miles of it.
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Post by: GilloD on September 10, 2008, 12:20:56 AM: I played for like 2 hours and it says 35% completed. Yikes. But fun! Kind of hate the weapons, but the action is so intense and awesome I don't even have time to care.

Also,e asy achievements. I think I made like 300 points just for stupid shit
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:23:09 AM: I guess the % completed is based off of characters joined, the missions are a small percentage each. So the game is apprently longer than it lets on. Id guess 10-15 hours if you dont fuck around too much. I tend to fuck around a lot, and multiplay is INSANELY fun and easy.
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: GilloD on September 10, 2008, 08:07:11 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:23:09 AM
I guess the % completed is based off of characters joined, the missions are a small percentage each. So the game is apprently longer than it lets on. Id guess 10-15 hours if you dont fuck around too much. I tend to fuck around a lot, and multiplay is INSANELY fun and easy.

Ah, yeah. I was going for team members first. I'd be up for some co-op this eve if anyones interested.
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Post by: chronovore on September 10, 2008, 11:49:49 AM: Quote from: lyte edge on September 05, 2008, 01:32:13 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on September 05, 2008, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 04, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
Wait for Just Cause 2.

:-* agreed

lol @ region locked co-op. YOU FAIL EA

Ugh, it does? Guess I'm playing single player since I don't know any other J-bores that have it.

I've got the Asia version for 360, played co-op with a guy in NY who I'm pretty sure is using the US version. So... where's this region lock talk coming from?
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: chronovore on September 11, 2008, 12:41:11 AM: BTW, the game's been patched, and according to one of those GameFAQs.com threads, it has fixed the Achievement glitches. Mine patched as soon as I booted the first time, and I've not had erroneous Achievements occur, though it did delay Tatooed Millionaire until after the game session in which it was achieved.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 11, 2008, 12:55:14 AM: cool cool. patched faster than castle crashers LULZ. Spent the night with Tales of Vesp
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: GilloD on September 11, 2008, 01:34:49 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 11, 2008, 12:55:14 AM
cool cool. patched faster than castle crashers LULZ. Spent the night with Tales of Vesp

ME TOO. We're the SAME
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Post by: trippingmartian on October 09, 2008, 02:01:10 PM: Total Payback Update Trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40994.html

Cheats, new chars, plus some bugfixes (STFU, Fiona)
Title: Re: Mercs 2 = So much more fun than most of the GTA games
Post by: GilloD on October 09, 2008, 02:20:28 PM: I returned this today. I'll spring for it used at like 30$ in a few months