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Title: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2008, 10:32:40 AM
[youtube=425,350]a9jTJu_JdwU[/youtube]

what the fuck
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: bud on September 09, 2008, 10:40:21 AM
......
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: patrickula on September 09, 2008, 10:45:22 AM
[youtube=425,350]hb7MWgBJ54o[/youtube]
:rock Powerslave owned :omg
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2008, 10:45:59 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: T-Short on September 09, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
*shrug*
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Third on September 09, 2008, 11:20:14 AM
Lol @ the ntards defending this crap. 

I didn't buy WiiFit and I WON'T buy this shit either.

Nintendo...:-\
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: ananus on September 09, 2008, 11:26:33 AM
i wonder if people would play wii balls torture if nintendo made it. and if it would be possible to have it sent to the majority of its fanbase.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: archie4208 on September 09, 2008, 11:30:27 AM
This "game" is going to bomb hard, especially with GH and RB on the market.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Tucah on September 09, 2008, 11:49:20 AM
What the fuck.

I think it'll probably do really well, but still, what the fuck.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 09, 2008, 11:50:54 AM
waiting on willco to show up, say he played it at 'the new E3' and since he got a free one, goty
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Trent Dole on September 09, 2008, 12:11:50 PM
Get this midi shit the fuck out of here.  >:(
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2008, 12:18:11 PM
who cares, for the most part wii is a lost system to normal gamers

use your wii for twilight hack apps, roms, light gun games, and the occasional party game for your drunken friends

use your real systems for your real games

Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: bachikarn on September 09, 2008, 12:34:06 PM
This is definitely for people to play together drunk so they can just 'jam' without really doing anything. For anyone expecting an actual game, it's going to suck a dick.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
Sigh. I wish Miyamoto would go back to using his superpowers for good instead of evil.  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: patrickula on September 09, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
While the actual game itself is not that much more offensive than everything else Nintendo has been doing lately, the actual sound produced by the game is godawful horror, and offensive to the ears of any halfway-mature listener.
How drunk would you have to be to think that shit sounds good enough for you to willingly subject yourself to such sonic torture?  I do watch videos of the game for laughs, but I'm laughing at the game, not with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Grecco on September 09, 2008, 01:40:50 PM
Most of the people who have played it say its actually fun.

Having said that im not even remotely interested. Ill pick up Samba de Amigo instead.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2008, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 09, 2008, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2008, 12:18:11 PM
who cares, for the most part wii is a lost system to normal gamers

use your wii for twilight hack apps, roms, light gun games, and the occasional party game for your drunken friends

use your real systems for your real games


Yep.  At this point getting upset about Wii games being junk is like getting upset that the latest add-on for Trivial Pursuit isn't up to snuff.

this.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Third on September 09, 2008, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: Borys on September 09, 2008, 02:12:18 PM
It must be a pretty fucking sweet gig to work in Nintendo Sales & Marketing Department.

Sales Rep #1: How much did it cost to develop?
Sales Rep #2: Around $1M.
Sales Rep #1: How much will it bring in?
Sales Rep #2: Around $200M.
Sales Rep #1: * HIGH FIVE! *

WiiFit, Wiisport, WiiPlay and WiiMusic TOGETHER probably cost $1m to develop. Just look at the graphics and listen to the sound of those games. The whole technology behind those software titels is piss poor...

Nintendo is genius for making it. But we're distinguished mentally-challenged fellows for buying it.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Grecco on September 09, 2008, 02:32:40 PM
Japanese developers work for cheaper rates than US developers but not that cheap.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: patrickula on September 09, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
While the actual game itself is not that much more offensive than everything else Nintendo has been doing lately,

That's the thing, though. This actually DOES seem worse than the others. I don't like Nintendogs or Wii Fit, but I could at least understand there's some goal within those games. Wii Music, however doesn't seem to have ANY point. I mean, from what I read you don't DO anything.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: patrickula on September 09, 2008, 02:50:15 PM
I guess I was assuming there's a graph or something.  If not then there is no illusion of a game here, and it exists solely as a toy.  Which can be fine, though this would be a toy with sound design from hell.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: y2kev on September 09, 2008, 02:55:42 PM
please move this thread to off topic
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Tauntaun on September 09, 2008, 02:56:36 PM
At least it's got furry.  *Shrug*  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Grecco on September 09, 2008, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: y2kev on September 09, 2008, 02:55:42 PM
please move this thread to off topic

Blatant Plagarism off Prole's posts.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: y2kev on September 09, 2008, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Grecco on September 09, 2008, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: y2kev on September 09, 2008, 02:55:42 PM
please move this thread to off topic

Blatant Plagarism off Prole's posts.  :lol

it's HOMAGE

/dyack
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
Control the speed of midi files in real-time!
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Crushed on September 09, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
stupidest piece of software nintendo's ever released


still funny to see people shrieking that a $20-30 midi synthesizer with a "play-along" feature is going to destroy the industry
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 09, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: Himuro on September 09, 2008, 10:32:40 AM
[youtube=425,350]a9jTJu_JdwU[/youtube]

what the fuck

 :lol

watch this sell 2 million copies in the US
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 09, 2008, 05:06:28 PM
Can't wait to play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star with the dog barks
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Bildi on September 09, 2008, 05:59:35 PM
Meh, who cares.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Trent Dole on September 09, 2008, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: Crushed on September 09, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
stupidest piece of software nintendo's ever released


still funny to see people shrieking that a $20-30 midi synthesizer with a "play-along" feature is going to destroy the industry
You think they won't sell this for $50?
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 09, 2008, 06:34:03 PM
You know what my biggest problem with Rock Band and Guitar Hero is? Not enough public domain classics
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: archie4208 on September 09, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 09, 2008, 06:34:03 PM
You know what my biggest problem with Rock Band and Guitar Hero is? Not enough public domain classics

You'll be able to recreate Yankee Doodle with the music studio in Guitar Hero 4.  Wii Music owned.
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: gibletsngravy on September 09, 2008, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Borys on September 09, 2008, 02:00:06 PM
:bow :bow :bow NINTENDO

Making gazillions on selling a garage developed title with 1996 tech behind it to 13-year olds while at the same time pissing off other 13-year olds who swear by mature titles like Uncharted, Halo, MGS4, Crysis or Mass Effect.

SUCK IT DOWN, real gamers.

Your golden era is over.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512RYSWT1TL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: Crushed on September 09, 2008, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on September 09, 2008, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: Crushed on September 09, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
stupidest piece of software nintendo's ever released


still funny to see people shrieking that a $20-30 midi synthesizer with a "play-along" feature is going to destroy the industry
You think they won't sell this for $50?

Hmm, I thought that because of how the other "Wii _____" games sold packaged with hardware, but after seeing that Wii Sports sold for nearly full price in Japan, I guess it's a strong possibility.



Oh well, it's all just to recoup costs! As someone on the other site said, Nintendo is probably using cheap MIDI because "they were close to bankruptcy" by the end of SMG's development! It "raped them financially!"

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Note: this would mean that SMG cost nearly $15bil to develop; 150 times more than GTAIV, and roughly equivalent to 15 brand new space shuttles. HE GOOD AT MAFF
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Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: archie4208 on September 09, 2008, 07:02:49 PM
Well SMG was 150 times better than GTA 4 so your theory makes sense!
Title: Re: Nintendo is trying to single handedly kill off music games
Post by: radioheadrule83 on September 09, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
I actually like the way the drums work in this title. Although I concede the use of the balance board as the bass pedal is an expensive albeit clever gimmick.

I don't mind the shitty dog samples and stuff -- that harkens back to the music composer on Mario Paint really... I hope there's a meowing equivalent in fact. Some of the other instrument sounds are truly terrible though. My old underpowered PC could still output some decent MIDI sounds using Yamaha SoftSynth, I had it using VST plugins. Its not like the Mii visuals are all that taxing on the Wii, they should be ploughing some system resources into Digital Signal Processing or something. That guitar sample especially... thats just not good enough.

Having said that, the instruments sound like shit on Daigasso Band Bros. If a compose tool could be unlocked in this game, as was possible in that game, that would increase the potential of this game. The casuals aren't gonna wanna do that shit, and for them - this game is happy to play random notes from the correct scales, make percussive noises that make sense etc... but it'd be cool if you could compose your own music / backing music, and actually set up something to jam to.

I just think this game needs something like that, because its missing something people can show off. People show off in Wii Sports, by having fun and feeling immersed as they do so. My parents were nearly smashing the living room up in joy the first time they played Wii Tennis. That generates word of mouth. With Wii Fit, people show off their intent to get healthy, and if they do alright, they can show off their progress in the graphs. That generates word of mouth. In Guitar Hero or Rock Band people show off their reflexes and skills, their ability to speed-read colours and translate them into button presses. Playing well also ensures that what comes out of your TVs speakers is accurate to the source material. Whether its people just talking about the game, or YouTube videos of some kid going nuts to Through the Fire and the Flames... thats good word of mouth.

Daigasso, sadly, didn't get the worldwide push it deserved. But that game could be a collaborative thing, you could jam with a bunch of people, and as I mentioned - create your own songs, the principles are more or less the same as GH and RB at the heart though. If you go all the way back to Mario Paint -- there were limitations there, you couldn't do notes above or below the stave, you couldn't do flat/sharp notes -- but go on YouTube today and you'll see how creative people can be with it. There's something to show off in all these games. Thats their draw. Wii Music seems like it has the jamming element of Daigasso Band Bros but none of the skill, and lacking the option to compose tracks.

I'm not seeing the draw here yet. There's a video around somewhere that demonstrates the drums -- that DOES look good. Everything else, so far, does not :/