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Title: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 03:33:21 AM
Must Buys:

Gears of War 2 - Looked great, played great and some of the new effects were incredible. Loved it.

Dead Space: Holy crap - I loved it. Extremely fun, very intuitive, slick visuals and pretty polished. Just wish you could run. Atmosphere was incredible.

Prince of Persia: Also a strong contender. Great visual style and great action/platforming. Dialogue was pretty bad tho.

Little Big Planet: The only area of Sony's booth that wasn't empty and for good reason. Creating levels was pretty damn fun.

Street Fighter 4: I'm not a super diehard fighter guy but this looked and played great. I got my butt whooped.

Not Sold On:

FarCry 2: Pretty boring. With so many shooters on the market, its hard ti figure out why you'd pay $60 for this one.

Quantum of Solace: Plays like Gears of Duty w/ QTEs for CQC. Fun in spurts but got repetitively quickly.

Fable II: Town stuff was fun and the options seem expanse but the combat did not really feel satisfying.

Total Surprises:

Guitar Hero: World Tour: Considering I got a free copy of Rock Band 2 this week and my love for Harmonix, this series was an afterthought for me. A demonstration of the editing tools along with band play has given me doubts about picking uo my RB2 kit (GHWT equipment is compatible with RB too).

Call of Duty: Was expecting it to suck but found the coop campaign immensely enjoyable. It was difficult at times trying to figure out who was who.

Total Stinkers:

Mortal Kombat vs DC: Moves are not mapped out well, slow response time, matches last forever and certain moves are unblockable. Really dumb button masher.

Socom: Boring and ugly. Played it for five minutes and northing happened.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Sceneman on September 10, 2008, 03:43:52 AM
none of this information is new

games we knew were going to be good are good, shit looking games suck

spoiler (click to show/hide)
with the exception of LBP, wow promising hands on impressions guys, I might have to splash out on a PS3
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Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 10, 2008, 03:45:44 AM
with the exception of LBP, wow promising hands on impressions guys, I might have to splash out on a PS3
what, you didn't believe everybody else who basically said the same thing? 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 03:47:33 AM
Comments in-line

Must Buys:

Gears of War 2 - Looked great, played great and some of the new effects were incredible. Loved it.
Destructable Environs?

Dead Space: Holy crap - I loved it. Extremely fun, very intuitive, slick visuals and pretty polished. Just wish you could run. Atmosphere was incredible.
The REAL Doom 3, for sure.

Prince of Persia: Also a strong contender. Great visual style and great action/platforming. Dialogue was pretty bad tho.
PoP games have stupid stories and stupid dialogue. Uncharted has worse dialogue, so LOL PS3 fans shut up.

Little Big Planet: The only area of Sony's booth that wasn't empty and for good reason. Creating levels was pretty damn fun.
I'll get it.

Street Fighter 4: I'm not a super diehard fighter guy but this looked and played great. I got my butt whooped.
I'm eating crow when this comes out. I thought it would blow but they turned it around from the looks of it.

Not Sold On:

FarCry 2: Pretty boring. With so many shooters on the market, its hard ti figure out why you'd pay $60 for this one.
IM GONNA SHOOT U IN THE FACE. Gonna take A LOT to sell me on a sequel to the first awful tech demo.

Quantum of Solace: Plays like Gears of Duty w/ QTEs for CQC. Fun in spurts but got repetitively quickly.
Never head o it.

Fable II: Town stuff was fun and the options seem expanse but the combat did not really feel satisfying.
Combat sucked in the first one too, even Pete's old games had some pretty basic, but funny combat.

Total Surprises:

Guitar Hero: World Tour: Considering I got a free copy of Rock Band 2 this week and my love for Harmonix, this series was an afterthought for me. A demonstration of the editing tools along with band play has given me doubts about picking uo my RB2 kit (GHWT equipment is compatible with RB too).
Don't have the patience to edit fucking songs. Create your own bullshit always makes me think the devs are too lazy to keep the track list fresh through the games life-cycle.

Call of Duty: Was expecting it to suck but found the coop campaign immensely enjoyable. It was difficult at times trying to figure out who was who.
More Call of Duty, GOIN THROUGH THOSE EA MOTIONS

Total Stinkers:

Mortal Kombat vs DC: Moves are not mapped out well, slow response time, matches last forever and certain moves are unblockable. Really dumb button masher.
Ill grab it when it hits 30.

Socom: Boring and ugly. Played it for five minutes and northing happened.
Always hated SOCOM, and now that most games are online, the single thing that made it so DURNED special way back when is now irrelevant.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 03:49:41 AM

Ask the Harmonix guys what songs are releasing with RB2 for FREE like they said
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 10, 2008, 03:54:52 AM
damn, I thought fable 2 would be a must-buy.

Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: TVC15 on September 10, 2008, 04:29:22 AM
Borys just wants to play video games on his 11 inch 3:4 monitor.  Just remember, Borys, remember to press the Turbo button on the front of your 386 befor eyou try to play a game.  Fable 2 will take more than 16Mhz.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 04:34:28 AM
MAF, Fable 1 (PC) combat was pretty good. It was challenging, rewarding and HARD (Arena or the Earth Giants or whatever they were called).

rofl, ok

click click click
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 08:04:33 AM
Combat wasn't terrible in the first Fable 2, it was just really easy and exploitable.  I always had problems with the Fable 2 combat every since they were pimping the 'one button' shit, so this doesn't really help ease my worries.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: dark1x on September 10, 2008, 08:27:30 AM
Quote
IM GONNA SHOOT U IN THE FACE. Gonna take A LOT to sell me on a sequel to the first awful tech demo.
It's for this reason that I believe the game should not have been named Far Cry 2.  The game is related to Far Cry in name only.  Far Cry was a product of CryTek (who proved themselves talented with Crysis).  I doubt FC2 will be anything like the original game.  Doesn't mean it will be good, of course, but its potential should not be judged by the original Far Cry.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: bork on September 10, 2008, 08:56:09 AM


Street Fighter 4: I'm not a super diehard fighter guy but this looked and played great. I got my butt whooped.
I'm eating crow when this comes out. I thought it would blow but they turned it around from the looks of it.



It never blew though, MAF.  It got positive responses from the people who played it from day one.  Unless you mean the lol-tastic visuals...
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Draft on September 10, 2008, 08:57:12 AM
:bow Dead Space :bow2
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 09:29:25 AM
Yeah, I walked away from Dead Space really impressed. It felt like Event Horizon, no less!

I didn't spend a ton of time with PC games in general.

I did play End War, which was cool but all the voice commands didn't work all the time - keep in mind we were on a busy floor.

Oh, the Star Wars lightsaber game for the Wii sucked btw.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 09:58:51 AM

Oh, the Star Wars lightsaber game for the Wii sucked btw.

Gazunta  :'(
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: UnoIllNino on September 10, 2008, 10:05:38 AM
Total Stinkers:
Socom: Boring and ugly. Played it for five minutes and northing happened.

I played the SOCOM beta for two hours on Sunday.  This was before they patched it and it was still two of the best hours of gaming I've had in a while.  Its the best parts of GRAW combined with the best parts of Rainbow Six.  I'm thinking this is the shooter everyone should be playing when they're not playing Gears or Resistance.  What's not to like?  Are you just not into tactical shooters?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mrbob on September 10, 2008, 10:32:48 AM
Glad I'm sticking with the decision to rent Fable 2.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 10:39:44 AM
MAF, Fable 1 (PC) combat was pretty good. It was challenging, rewarding and HARD (Arena or the Earth Giants or whatever they were called).

no
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 10:41:03 AM
Total Stinkers:
Socom: Boring and ugly. Played it for five minutes and northing happened.

I played the SOCOM beta for two hours on Sunday.  This was before they patched it and it was still two of the best hours of gaming I've had in a while.  Its the best parts of GRAW combined with the best parts of Rainbow Six.  I'm thinking this is the shooter everyone should be playing when they're not playing Gears or Resistance.  What's not to like?  Are you just not into tactical shooters?

Its generic boring bullshit.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 10, 2008, 10:59:29 AM
MAF, Fable 1 (PC) combat was pretty good. It was challenging, rewarding and HARD (Arena or the Earth Giants or whatever they were called).
borys, your opinion on games is so worthless. 
You can build Paris in Far Cry 2. That's why you spend $60.
you can do the same in just about every PC game with a map editor...
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: UnoIllNino on September 10, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Its generic boring bullshit.

Dude, that's some great insight right there.  I gotta ask, do you enjoy GRAW, or Rainbow Six?  And also, did you even play the new SOCOM?  Cuz the other Socom games are just poor man's versions of stuff Ubisoft did better.  This is no longer the case. 

So do you enjoy GRAW or Rainbow, and have you played the new SOCOM?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 11:11:48 AM
The Gears demo was co-op and pretty fantastic.

I will post more detailed impressions, along with impressions of Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Madworld, Wii Music, H.A.W.X., Saints Row II and moar when I get home (I'm typing all of this on a Blackberry).

I'm attending the Harmonix Rock Band 2 presentation this morning, but there's no way in hell they will match the Activision Guitar Hero presentation in spectacle. Harmonix has to win the hearts and minds of DMs and SMs this morning, because after Activision last night, Guitar Hero won a lot of wallets.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: y2kev on September 10, 2008, 11:14:16 AM
Its generic boring bullshit.

Dude, that's some great insight right there.  I gotta ask, do you enjoy GRAW, or Rainbow Six?  And also, did you even play the new SOCOM?  Cuz the other Socom games are just poor man's versions of stuff Ubisoft did better.  This is no longer the case. 

So do you enjoy GRAW or Rainbow, and have you played the new SOCOM?

The new SOCOM is definitely ugly, but I agree that it was very fun with what I played. It's very tactical and I really like how the guns feel.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Sideshow Raheem on September 10, 2008, 11:47:34 AM
Dead Space has a run button.

Must Buys:


Dead Space: Holy crap - I loved it. Extremely fun, very intuitive, slick visuals and pretty polished. Just wish you could run. Atmosphere was incredible.

Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: muckhole on September 10, 2008, 11:50:43 AM
So Willco, are you pushing EB to try and get any any industry types posting here?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Jewco ask about the free sooooongs
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Its generic boring bullshit.

Dude, that's some great insight right there.  I gotta ask, do you enjoy GRAW, or Rainbow Six?  And also, did you even play the new SOCOM?  Cuz the other Socom games are just poor man's versions of stuff Ubisoft did better.  This is no longer the case. 

So do you enjoy GRAW or Rainbow, and have you played the new SOCOM?

SOCOM is crap. So is Uncharted. Why should I qualify my opinions when sony fucktards have proven time and time again that they'd rather live in the shit bubble theyve created.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
GRAW & Rainbow >>>>>>>>>>>>> Borecom
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: bork on September 10, 2008, 12:06:44 PM
So Willco, are you pushing EB to try and get any any industry types posting here?

Yeah, do some REAL work for a change whydontcha
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 12:08:55 PM
SOCOM beta is pretty good outside of being incredibly rough.  The menus are worse than the Too Human menu.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 10, 2008, 12:20:55 PM
Its generic boring bullshit.

Dude, that's some great insight right there.  I gotta ask, do you enjoy GRAW, or Rainbow Six?  And also, did you even play the new SOCOM?  Cuz the other Socom games are just poor man's versions of stuff Ubisoft did better.  This is no longer the case. 

So do you enjoy GRAW or Rainbow, and have you played the new SOCOM?

SOCOM is crap. So is Uncharted. Why should I qualify my opinions when sony fucktards have proven time and time again that they'd rather live in the shit bubble theyve created.

SOCOM IS crap, it always baffled me that the PS2 games sold so well. But I liked Uncharted a lot.  :(
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 12:24:31 PM
I never really played SOCOM on the PS2 (I did enjoy the demo of the first game a lot, I just didn't feel like buying it), but I never understood the rivalry between SOCOM and Counter-Strike back then.  I was a CS player and my friend would always make a point to insult me and tell me to play SOCOM. 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:33:04 PM
SOCOMs gimmick was ONLINE ON CONSOLES which allowed reviewers to completely overblow its actual worth. Its like how objectively Phantasy Star Online isnt that great of a game, but even the simple online component allowed GAMERS to make the experience better.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on September 10, 2008, 12:39:37 PM
SOCOM 1 rocked, SOCOM 2 and on not so much.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:42:49 PM
Same as PSO! Gimmicks only go so far.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: T234 on September 10, 2008, 12:47:29 PM
SOCOMs gimmick was ONLINE ON CONSOLES which allowed reviewers to completely overblow its actual worth. Its like how objectively Phantasy Star Online isnt that great of a game, but even the simple online component allowed GAMERS to make the experience better.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/downey-jr-tropic-thunder2.jpg)
YOU BOUT TO CROSS SOME FUCKIN LINES, MAN
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2008, 12:47:31 PM
SOCOMs gimmick was ONLINE ON CONSOLES which allowed reviewers to completely overblow its actual worth. Its like how objectively Phantasy Star Online isnt that great of a game, but even the simple online component allowed GAMERS to make the experience better.

Sort of like Xbox LIVE 4 LYFE then, despite its sluggish operation, "It's Good to PAY togewah" policy and junior Shockwave design/UI look and navigation, making it fairly shit compared to PC "equivalents?"
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 12:48:41 PM
PSO stopped being fun because they made it a card game.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:49:57 PM
What's the PC equivalent, and dont pretend that game-specific online functionality compares. Gamespy? More like Lamespy adspam. I think only Steam comes close, and even that is not an equivalent
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 12:53:18 PM
Steam actually does a lot of things better than Xbox Live, but then there are a few features it doesn't have that the 360 XBL has (same the other way).

Nothing stop the original Xbox version of Live from being total bullshit.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 12:59:32 PM
Original version was crap
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: T234 on September 10, 2008, 01:01:33 PM
PSO stopped being fun because they made it a card game.
There are only three episodes of PSO that ever existed.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: y2kev on September 10, 2008, 01:04:16 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 01:06:49 PM
Harmonix's presentation is so mundane, but I got your information. 20 free songs will be available via DLC and it will cost $5 to bring your songs from the first Rock Band to the next installment. World Tour mode is fully online.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2008, 01:11:04 PM
What's the PC equivalent, and dont pretend that game-specific online functionality compares.

Oh that's right, the group factor. How remarkable, and it totally makes up for the sluggish, strict tier based, ad-ridden UI!

:gloomy XBL, nickel and dime junior Shockwave oral groupwank service :gloomy
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 01:13:29 PM
Band creation is incredibly deep, maybe deeper than Guitar Hero World Tour. You will be able to create a MySpace-like band page from their community site with dates, user created album art, logos, etc.  You will also be able to create and order t-shirts and other neat items of your user created band logo, instruments, etc.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: T234 on September 10, 2008, 01:15:22 PM
What's the PC equivalent, and dont pretend that game-specific online functionality compares.

Oh that's right, the group factor. How remarkable, and it totally makes up for the sluggish, strict tier based, ad-ridden UI!

:gloomy XBL, nickel and dime junior Shockwave oral groupwank service :gloomy

:gloomy PSN free awful contentless groupwank service :gloomy
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2008, 01:15:29 PM
GRAW and Vegas are INDEED awesome.

I had to eat some crow after playing Vegas. I still maintain that the design is inferior to the old PC games, but it wasn't an entirely bad little action game. Shame that UBI doesn't seem to give a shit about improving legacy issues though; pathfinding errors, in a team of 3?  :(
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 01:18:13 PM
Instruments are totally wireless with new calibration support for those with advanced AV systems. Metal reinforcement on the pedals.

Rock Band is aiming for functionality and playability, with the game being the leading music platform. They feel it separates them from Guitar Hero, which is focusing on quantity of options and not necessarily realistic functionality.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 01:22:23 PM
Harmonix is doing private band online tourney for GameStop SMs lawl. Now they're going to do a live battle of the bands - Harmonix vs GameStop.

Oh, just a heads up, after doing a walkthrough of the new XBL - nobody can say shit!
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: T234 on September 10, 2008, 01:24:22 PM
Fuck, lamestop sounds like a bigger employee cult than wal-mart.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Vizzys on September 10, 2008, 01:25:28 PM
so socom still sucks hmm

think they would have given up by now
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 10, 2008, 01:35:44 PM
Fuck, lamestop sounds like a bigger employee cult than wal-mart.

It reminds me of Amway or something...
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: T234 on September 10, 2008, 01:39:06 PM
Only I'm pretty sure Gamestop has an employee who is happy.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mrbob on September 10, 2008, 02:06:41 PM
So the new Xbox experience isn't complete crap? 

I don't like the way it looks, but I haven't used it.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 02:16:38 PM
Why do people hate the new Dash? Do you really prefer the blades? New Dash is a huge step forward. I'm stoked for it. I bet it will look sexy as hell on my TV. It just oozes sheen.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
I am looking forward to the new dash if only because it is less crappy than the blades.  I still don't think it is good outside of the guide button mini blades that can pop up.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 10, 2008, 02:18:24 PM
I'm pretty excited about Gears 2, Fable 2, and Dead Space. Hope they deliver.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 02:19:20 PM
The new dash is ugly PSN meets Wii crap online
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 02:26:43 PM
MS thought ahead for the schlubs who like blades and gave them the miniblade guide
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 10, 2008, 02:28:58 PM
Rock Band sounds awesome

edit:  And I like the new dash just fine, I just hate avatars.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mrbob on September 10, 2008, 02:31:42 PM
:bow Miniblade superiority :bow2
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Bloodwake on September 10, 2008, 03:07:44 PM
Glad I'm sticking with the decision to rent Fable 2.

qft
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Grecco on September 10, 2008, 03:09:20 PM
Harmonix's presentation is so mundane, but I got your information. 20 free songs will be available via DLC and it will cost $5 to bring your songs from the first Rock Band to the next installment. World Tour mode is fully online.

Bah But WHAT ARE THOSE 20 songs. :(
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
I'm not sure how a conference results in a business cult. Its not like I am saying or ANYONE is saying it's the greatest company ever - the conference is meant to educate SMs on Q4 products and blow off steam. The event has become so huge because we are the number one videogame retailer (we surpassed Wal-Mart) and vendors want to rally support behind their individual products.

I will say that corporate spent a good deal and a lot of money on training us on how to deal with the - and this was a surprise to me - the core gamer. There is some really cool shit that GameStop will be rolling out to make things easier for gamers in the store. Plus, they've spent a truckload of money developing tools to train store associates and we have an actual timeline (along with the tools) for it now.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 03:16:49 PM
I think honestly, its best to keep stuff heard at company meetings, within the company. Regardless of the meetings true intent, it comes off as whorish to most.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 03:27:21 PM
I posted impressions and gaming news! I didn't post anything corporate until prompted by cult remarks!

I work for a company - like many who work for MOST companies, I do not find it without fault nor do I think of it as the best company ever. I enjoy my job for the most part, regardless of the actual corporate policy.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 03:29:01 PM
my advice? Ignore the comments and keep doing what youre doing
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Bacon on September 10, 2008, 03:31:56 PM
Why do people hate the new Dash? Do you really prefer the blades? New Dash is a huge step forward. I'm stoked for it. I bet it will look sexy as hell on my TV. It just oozes sheen.

It's fucking hideos.

If you want sheen, get a PS3. XMB and Blu-rays :hump
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: dark1x on September 10, 2008, 03:34:17 PM
I posted impressions and gaming news! I didn't post anything corporate until prompted by cult remarks!

I work for a company - like many who work for MOST companies, I do not find it without fault nor do I think of it as the best company ever. I enjoy my job for the most part, regardless of the actual corporate policy.
I certainly appreciated your impressions!   :D
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 03:37:19 PM
Red Faction's destructible environments are the real deal. We got a sneak peek at some great weapons like the nano rifle that literally eats apart matter. The had like some kind of crazy implopding mine too.  The actual physics and the way the buildings fall apart is incredible. How come nobody else has pulled this off?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 03:40:39 PM
Because Volition is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 03:41:01 PM
This looks like Mercs but on Mars and visually/tech impressive.

We just saw a mech walk through a building a destroy piece by piece - simply incredible.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Draft on September 10, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
Can you expound a bit on Dead Space?

Does it control exactly like RE4? It seems from the videos that you control the camera and hence the crosshair with the right stick, is that the case? Is there a quick 180 turn (I have a serious game boner for the quick 180 turn.) How was the framerate? Which platform did you play it on? Which platform, if any, did the PR drones recommend you play it on?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: dark1x on September 10, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
Red Faction's destructible environments are the real deal. We got a sneak peek at some great weapons like the nano rifle that literally eats apart matter. The had like some kind of crazy implopding mine too.  The actual physics and the way the buildings fall apart is incredible. How come nobody else has pulled this off?
Crysis managed it (though obviously its focus was a bit different) and it looked more impressive in motion as well (due to the object motion blur).  Still, what they've achieved in the new Red Faction is really impressive.  I just wish it wasn't an open world game.  :\
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
Mercs 2 is awesome
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 04:08:44 PM
Crysis does it the same way Mercs 2 does it.  It has mainly metal sheets that make up the building, then they just fall away like a house of cards.  Mercs 2 and Bad Company also rely on destruction by swapping out models, so shoot a wall and it swaps with a broken wall.  It is on a much smaller scale than Mercs 2, but RF3 has the most impressive destruction I have ever seen in a game.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 10, 2008, 04:34:10 PM
No way, mercs 2 has large concrete explosions. Blowing a wall to a fortress with C4 is win
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: dark1x on September 10, 2008, 04:40:11 PM
Crysis does it the same way Mercs 2 does it.  It has mainly metal sheets that make up the building, then they just fall away like a house of cards.  Mercs 2 and Bad Company also rely on destruction by swapping out models, so shoot a wall and it swaps with a broken wall.  It is on a much smaller scale than Mercs 2, but RF3 has the most impressive destruction I have ever seen in a game.
This is true.  However, there are many more individual pieces used to create structures in Crysis and you can't forget the detailed vegitation destruction (which doesn't simply replace models).  It's the high number of objects interacting with one another coupled with the incredible post processing that gives Crysis its look and feel.  It is different from Red Faction in that you can't actually destroy material, though, you're right.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 04:49:56 PM
No way, mercs 2 has large concrete explosions. Blowing a wall to a fortress with C4 is win

That is the swapping out model effect at work.  I just hope Mercs 3 gets the same destruction that RF3 is getting.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: patrickula on September 10, 2008, 04:56:12 PM
Thanks for the impressions Willco, keep em coming  :)
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2008, 05:20:26 PM
Total Stinkers:

Mortal Kombat vs DC: Moves are not mapped out well, slow response time, matches last forever and certain moves are unblockable. Really dumb button masher.

Socom: Boring and ugly. Played it for five minutes and northing happened.

So I take it they didn't give you free copies of those?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2008, 05:31:50 PM
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Dead Space: Holy crap - I loved it. Extremely fun, very intuitive, slick visuals and pretty polished. Just wish you could run. Atmosphere was incredible.

Dead Space is a game that, from the beginning, I thought had a lot of potential to be really good. Gameplay is one area that I've had a bit of concern about, though. Would it be accurate to say it's a bit like RE4 in space?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: demi on September 10, 2008, 07:19:43 PM
Jewco, can you tell why you dont like Lightsaber Game on Wii?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2008, 07:31:36 PM
is Left 4 Dead there?

if so, are they letting you play as the infected?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Draft on September 10, 2008, 07:43:53 PM
Infected aren't making it into L4D playable at launch.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mrbob on September 10, 2008, 07:56:32 PM
Free update on PC, 800 points on 360. 

Just a guess.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: pilonv1 on September 10, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
There is some really cool shit that GameStop will be rolling out to make things easier for gamers in the store.

Moving Wii to a new concept store - NonGameStop?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Bildi on September 10, 2008, 08:48:44 PM
Oh yeah, the positive Dead Space impressions continue.

:hump
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Draft on September 10, 2008, 09:51:04 PM
Free update on PC, 800 points on 360. 

Just a guess.

Free update on PC, never appearing on 360. Come on now.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 09:53:43 PM
Left 4 Dead line was so long I couldn't even see the television.

Blizzard is giving their presentation right now and it's fucking hysterical.

Dead Space was smooth and handled like Halo but in third person. They were pushing it hard on the 360.

Will detail more on Friday.

Resistance 2 looked good btw
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 09:57:30 PM
Willco, did you not play Last Remnant then? A friend said it was there but he hadn't played it yet.

Nope - didn't remember it.

Wow, Wrath of the Lich King looks pretty neat surprisingly.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on September 10, 2008, 09:57:54 PM
Willco, any truth to MS selling a 60 GB hard drive for the X360 at $99 with 3 months of Live and an Ethernet cable?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 10, 2008, 10:01:48 PM
Resistance 2 looked good btw

Is this true?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sGypx5HvL._SS400_.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4291/h3lm0.jpg)

And the CE cover is a rip off of Fable 2 cover.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
I don't know what you are talking about

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Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on September 10, 2008, 10:02:44 PM
I don't know what you are talking about

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Your spoiler tags are fucked up.  :-*
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Greatness Gone on September 10, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
I knew Fable II was going to be total shit.  :)
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 10:08:31 PM
Fable II looks promising but I predict a good amount of backlash.

Resistance 2 looked neat visually, but it didn't seem terribly fun.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 10:13:10 PM
Blizzard is nice enough to show us internal video from their corporate show and tell meetings, and GameStop SMs  respond by talking throughout the presentation. Jerks!

Wrath of the Lich King has kickass vehicles!
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Solo on September 10, 2008, 10:14:27 PM
All that matters for me this fall is Gears of War 2. As long as that delivers, Im happy.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
StarCraft 2 exclusive multiplayer walkthrough!!!
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2008, 10:16:41 PM
All that matters for me this fall is Gears of War 2. As long as that delivers, Im happy.

You'd really like Dead Space, dude. Super atmospheric.

Gears was like sex.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2008, 10:17:05 PM
Wow those boxarts are fucking generic.  Who would want to copy Halo 3 in the first place?

Oh, you're just being facetious.  Who doesn't copy Halo?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 10, 2008, 10:36:30 PM
Wow those boxarts are fucking generic.  Who would want to copy Halo 3 in the first place?

Word, the Halo 3 cover is shit.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: muckhole on September 10, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
Fable II looks promising but I predict a good amount of backlash.


So is it an open world this time a la Oblivion? Or are you still on rails?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 10, 2008, 10:42:21 PM
Fable II looks promising but I predict a good amount of backlash.

Resistance 2 looked neat visually, but it didn't seem terribly fun.

I think Fable 2 is a game that needs to be enjoyed for a couple of hours before understanding if it comes together or not.

Resistance 2 looks as fun as Resistance 1.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: UnoIllNino on September 11, 2008, 12:11:54 AM
SOCOM is crap. So is Uncharted. Why should I qualify my opinions when sony fucktards have proven time and time again that they'd rather live in the shit bubble theyve created.

Well, if you don't play tactical shooters, your opinion on SOCOM is pretty much irrelevant to somebody like me, who's a big fan of them.  Your opinion might matter to somebody like you, who doesn't play them, but why the hell would somebody like me take you seriously? 

And that sony fucktards remark?  Take that shit back over to NeoGAF, dude.  I play games to have fun.  I am not brand loyal.  I just know a good game when I play one.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: UnoIllNino on September 11, 2008, 12:15:54 AM
MAF has played a metric fuckton of tactical shooters.
Alright, then I guess I'm wrong about him.  I still say the SOCOM beta is the fuckin bomb diggity and if you haven't played it, your opinion still doesn't mean shit no matter how many shooters you've played.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 11, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
I knew Fable II was going to be total shit.  :)

I preordered it to get the free Pub Games, then canceled my preorder and put the money down on Rock Band 2. :rock
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 12:22:12 AM
Resistance 2 looked good btw

Is this true?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sGypx5HvL._SS400_.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4291/h3lm0.jpg)

And the CE cover is a rip off of Fable 2 cover.
god damn, you are definitely distinguished mentally-challenged. 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: y2kev on September 11, 2008, 12:31:11 AM
doesn't matter anyway since they gave it to slant 6 and zipper is working on that mag abortion
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2008, 12:32:20 AM
By socom guys do you mean socom fans, or the dev guys?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 11, 2008, 12:53:59 AM
Resistance 2 looked good btw

Is this true?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sGypx5HvL._SS400_.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4291/h3lm0.jpg)

And the CE cover is a rip off of Fable 2 cover.
god damn, you are definitely distinguished mentally-challenged. 


What. Are you blind or something? Or your just being yourself, a natural born, corn eating dumbass.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 01:04:02 AM
What. Are you blind or something? Or your just being yourself, a natural born, corn eating dumbass.
the yellow sky is a theme for resistance 2.  the stance is your standard guy holding a gun - nothing noteworthy there.  saying it's a "ripoff" is distinguished mentally-challenged -- there are similarities, but it's more a coincidence and not a ripoff. 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 11, 2008, 01:06:02 AM
What. Are you blind or something? Or your just being yourself, a natural born, corn eating dumbass.
the yellow sky is a theme for resistance 2.  the stance is your standard guy holding a gun - nothing noteworthy there.  saying it's a "ripoff" is distinguished mentally-challenged -- there are similarities, but it's more a coincidence. 

Oh yeah!!!???

Is this a coincidence too???

(http://www.threespeech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/pack.1.jpg)
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n254/sonic_imprint/fable2-pal.jpg)

AH! I think not
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 01:17:09 AM
fable 2's box art is just an update on the original fable box art -- same concept, which can be found used in many pieces of art where there's a good/evil contrast as a focus. 

you're acting like these are super original ideas that these xbox covers invented.  they are well proven concepts that these games happen to use.  you could say they are both ripping off the original, but that's excessive -- the point is that it's silly and distinguished mentally-challenged to act like one of these games ripped off the other when neither are original concepts to begin with.   

both fable and resistance 2 have good/evil concepts within the game -- it's not surprising they'd express that on the cover, and a mirror image is, like i said, a well established way to do this. 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Bildi on September 11, 2008, 01:30:35 AM
So is the second "reflection" boxart the real one for Resistance 2?

Because the composition on the first one looks like it was done by a monkey.  Presumably it's a horrible fan mockup.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2008, 01:55:56 AM
thank god euros arent so stupid they need 84 "PLAYSTATION" fonts/logo's on the cover
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Bildi on September 11, 2008, 01:58:01 AM
Well the second one is Euro and the first one is NA, so it figures ;)

:lol  Oh wow, so typical.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2008, 08:33:45 AM
The second box art with the reflection thing going on is the Limited Edition box art, the ugly Halo 3 rip off is the standard one.  And the Standard one is pretty clearly influenced heavily by Halo, but the LE one isn't influenced by Fable 2 at all.  Even if that type of mirrored image isn't anything new to Fable, the difference in content is pretty strong.  One features two sides to the war and the other features two sides to life.


Wait, was Fight Night round 4 shown? any impressions of that?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: y2kev on September 11, 2008, 10:05:38 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: duckman2000 on September 11, 2008, 10:39:28 AM
Wrika, stop quoting JustinP please.

Funny this, I was going to say "JustinP, would you stop quoting that Wrikawrek shithole?" but then I realized that they are both dungpiles, so why not ignore both?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 11:24:17 AM
And the Standard one is pretty clearly influenced heavily by Halo
why?  because the sky?  the soldier pose? 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
Both of those.

I mean, soldier guy coming out of the left side of the box wielding a gun at dusk isn't exactly a common type of box art.

Nathan Hale becomes a Chimera. It's 2 sides to HIS life.

That better not be a spoiler!...wait, Nathan Hale is the bald guy, right? or is that British guy? and wasn't there a woman or something?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 05:37:43 PM
Both of those.

I mean, soldier guy coming out of the left side of the box wielding a gun at dusk isn't exactly a common type of box art.
but it isn't even dusk or a sunset/rise at all.  the whole sky is yellow when the chimera shit is in the sky.  we've seen art, screenshots, and videos that show this. 

(http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resistance2-teasertrailercopy.jpg)

and there's nothing noteworthy/original about a soldier holding a gun on the side of a box art.  the general placement is similar, but that's it.  are you really saying you can't put a soldier on the left side without ripping off halo...? 
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: WrikaWrek on September 11, 2008, 05:37:55 PM
Wrika, stop quoting JustinP please.

Funny this, I was going to say "JustinP, would you stop quoting that Wrikawrek shithole?" but then I realized that they are both dungpiles, so why not ignore both?


How about you go fuck yourself?

Seriously, you were shit at GAF and you are shit here. I'm a shitty ass poster, but at least i don't act like a pompous asshole like you.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2008, 05:52:47 PM
but it isn't even dusk or a sunset/rise at all.  the whole sky is yellow when the chimera shit is in the sky.  we've seen art, screenshots, and videos that show this. 

(http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resistance2-teasertrailercopy.jpg)

and there's nothing noteworthy/original about a soldier holding a gun on the side of a box art.  the general placement is similar, but that's it.  are you really saying you can't put a soldier on the left side without ripping off halo...? 

Not 'ripped off', but heavily inspired.  It is kind of like how a lot of design in Halo is 'heavily inspired' by Aliens.

While I know the R2 segments aren't at dusk and a result of the invasion, I was just using that as a reference point.  Whatever color that may be, I don't care, but they are really similar.  The entire vibe is similar between them.

And despite all this arguing, and lets just say I concede and say it is totally original, it doesn't stop it from being an ugly cover.  It is made worse since the LE cover is so great.  Clearly they have someone on the art team who is capable of creating something that looks great, but who knows, maybe lightening didn't strike twice.  I will also say that the Resistance 1 cover was also a lot better.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: JustinP on September 11, 2008, 06:25:04 PM
but it isn't even dusk or a sunset/rise at all.  the whole sky is yellow when the chimera shit is in the sky.  we've seen art, screenshots, and videos that show this. 

(http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resistance2-teasertrailercopy.jpg)

and there's nothing noteworthy/original about a soldier holding a gun on the side of a box art.  the general placement is similar, but that's it.  are you really saying you can't put a soldier on the left side without ripping off halo...? 

Not 'ripped off', but heavily inspired.  It is kind of like how a lot of design in Halo is 'heavily inspired' by Aliens.

While I know the R2 segments aren't at dusk and a result of the invasion, I was just using that as a reference point.  Whatever color that may be, I don't care, but they are really similar.  The entire vibe is similar between them.
similar, yes -- they are obviously similar.  but being "heavily inspired" accuses them of literally used halo's box art as inspiration.  i think it's MUCH more reasonable to assume the yellow sky is from, you know, the sky in the game caused by the chimera invasion... and not the sunset on the halo cover.   

if similarities are the only thing warranting an accusation of being "heavily inspired," you could say halo 3's cover ripped off the back cover of soldier of fortune 2 for xbox. 

(http://upload.dfyb.net/uploaded/soldierfortunecover.jpg)

even has the yellow :lol.  but obviously, saying halo ripped this off is just as ridiculous as saying resistance ripped off (or was "heavily inspired by") halo 3's cover. 

And despite all this arguing, and lets just say I concede and say it is totally original, it doesn't stop it from being an ugly cover.  It is made worse since the LE cover is so great.  Clearly they have someone on the art team who is capable of creating something that looks great, but who knows, maybe lightening didn't strike twice.  I will also say that the Resistance 1 cover was also a lot better.
i'm not saying the R2 box art (either one) is "totally original."  i'm not saying it's a good cover, either.  i think all of resistance's art is a bit meh.  so i don't know who you're trying to argue against. 

Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2008, 12:07:41 AM
Did you get to play Wii Music, Wilco?
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2008, 11:53:36 AM
http://kotaku.com/5048928/gamestop-expo-video-explosion-+-gears-2-fight-night-4-ozzy

Bunch of videos from the event.  Fight Night r4 looks awesome.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: border on September 12, 2008, 05:17:16 PM
I still don't see how anyone finds GH:WT compelling for the Create-A-Song stuff.  It doesn't have vocals, and Activision will yank anything that is not authorized or in the public domain.  So I'm supposed to spend 3 hours creating note charts for Turkey in the Straw or some shit?

Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 12, 2008, 05:38:46 PM
OH MY GOD, WILCO!

Confirm something for me, is Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories getting release on the PS2 in North America????

SE sent out a press release today. $29.99.
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: laesperanzapaz on September 12, 2008, 09:05:18 PM
do you guys always have to shit up threads like this
Title: Re: Willco gives impressions for all games coming out
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 13, 2008, 05:11:34 PM
how did StarCraft 2 look/play? Someone on GAF said it looks very similar to SC1 when you leave the 3D camera alone  :o