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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 01:11:59 AM

Title: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 01:11:59 AM
I've never played any DW and I want to try one. I tried Gundam but I didn't really get it. I just hit square a lot. Which I guess is moderately entertaining, but, you know.

I want to try DQ6 maybe. Is there a PS3 demo? I checked...I didn't see one on 360.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: demi on September 12, 2008, 01:37:51 AM
If you played Gundam you played DW, its not like either game is radically different
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 01:47:14 AM
The DW Empire games are pretty different from the regular DW games.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2008, 01:48:44 AM
They're all the same game, 6.0/10
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: demi on September 12, 2008, 01:50:01 AM
The DW Empire games are pretty different from the regular DW games.

Oh sorry, I had forgotten about those. It is hard to look past the 6.0s the series gets
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:17:34 AM
WELL ITS HARD TO LOOK PAST YOUR FAT FACE
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: demi on September 12, 2008, 02:23:19 AM
It's not that fat
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: jiji on September 12, 2008, 02:47:05 AM
6.0 is the no-effort "we seriously don't know what to do with these games - just give them to the intern to review" score. it's a lot like the 6.0 that most 2D shooters released in the US tended to get. they do the same thing with romance of the three kingdoms.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: GilloD on September 12, 2008, 10:54:30 AM
Yes.

Go get a boring Chinese history book.
Get some hentai porn.
Put them next to each other.
Grab an Xbox 360 controller.
Start smashing the "A" and "X" buttons, while reading the history book aloud and beating off to the porno.

You played it!
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 10:58:28 AM
Do you like beat-em-ups?  Do you like leveling characters, finding weapons and smashing hordes of enemies?  Then you'll like these games.

I would avoid DW6; it's kind of a step backwards.  Koei is even down-porting the game to PS2 and making improvements to that version anyway.

My problem with these games in the past was how little challenge the stages seemed to lack with all the brain-dead enemies.  If you want a better challenge, try Warriors Orochi.  The sequel is hitting the States soon too.  It changes up the formula a bit by letting you pick three-man teams that you can swap between at any time, but you can die easier.  It's more challenging and more fun.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 11:02:42 AM
Is Warriors Orochi basically the same thing? I want to see if I'd like a DW game. Is there a demo of it?
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 11:07:49 AM
Is Warriors Orochi basically the same thing? I want to see if I'd like a DW game. Is there a demo of it?

I think there is on PC.  Warriors Orochi is Koei's "King Of Fighters" in that it takes the characters from Dynasty Warriors AND Samurai Warriors, puts them together, adds new enemies and story, and has the team play thing going on. 
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MCD on September 12, 2008, 11:45:42 AM
try DW5: Empires edition.

it's the same shit but with strategy involved before and after fighting.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
DW5 Empires is sweet. Also check out Samurai Warriors 2 Empires.

The fact that Lyte recommends Orochi over the Empires games is smh
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: muckson on September 12, 2008, 12:45:45 PM
Do you like beat-em-ups?  Do you like leveling characters, finding weapons and smashing hordes of enemies?  Then you'll like these games.

I would avoid DW6; it's kind of a step backwards.  Koei is even down-porting the game to PS2 and making improvements to that version anyway.

My problem with these games in the past was how little challenge the stages seemed to lack with all the brain-dead enemies.  If you want a better challenge, try Warriors Orochi.  The sequel is hitting the States soon too.  It changes up the formula a bit by letting you pick three-man teams that you can swap between at any time, but you can die easier.  It's more challenging and more fun.

true stuff
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 12:50:58 PM
Warriors Orochi's challenge is in its juggles. AI isnt better. Unless you think juggling is cool and fun.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: homborg on September 12, 2008, 12:57:40 PM
4 empires >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 empires

don't even attempt to listen to maf
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 12, 2008, 01:04:30 PM
Find a cheap copy of DW4 Empires.  On the link is a copy for $8.99, which is a good price.  Even after shipping costs, you really don't lose here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11988&item=220278208923
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 01:08:28 PM
DW4 Empires is also good.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: muckson on September 12, 2008, 01:25:28 PM
welcome to musou fog land
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: jiji on September 12, 2008, 01:25:39 PM
DW4 empires is way better than DW5/SW2 empires.  The strategy actually means something, and it's not a dumb grindfest.  It was my first DW. Go for it!!
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:02:06 PM

The fact that Lyte recommends Orochi over the Empires games is smh


I want action, not pseudo-strategy crap.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
lol action, dont u mean juggles.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:02:49 PM
DW4 empires is way better than DW5/SW2 empires.  The strategy actually means something, and it's not a dumb grindfest.  It was my first DW. Go for it!!
Another person thats wrong!
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: Sysgen on September 12, 2008, 02:03:50 PM
If it helps I was in your position having never played a DW game.  I wanted next gen though because I thought the engine would be better, no wall of fog, more happening on screen etc...  I bought DW6 and was surprised how much I enjoyed it.  The game has a great immersion factor and I enjoyed the character stories.  I enjoy repetitve hack and slash and I found the game to be perfectly challenging.  

I can see where someone who has played A DW game before 6 might be somewhat dissatisified with DW6 but if your're new to the series like I was DW6 provides enough graphical and environmental polish to please.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:08:08 PM
The reason DW6 kinda sucks is mainly because of how they changed up most of the characters.  They made too many characters play the same and/or use the same weapons.  Screw graphics in these games; if you're going to try DW6, better to wait for the PS2 port.

lol action, dont u mean juggles.

I guess if you let the CPU beat you up, sure.  It was never much of an issue for me.  Played one campaign 'till the end with Muckson and had a blast!
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
1000 DW Gundam. Owned. See ya in the funnies.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:10:24 PM
1000 DW Gundam. Owned. See ya in the funnies.

It's Gundam, not a real Musou game HAR HAR HAR.  I don't see you posting your Orochi accomplishments.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:12:03 PM
Why would I, Orochi 360 sux. PSP is ultimate form.

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Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
lol

I have moved onto Orochi 2, I don't care.



























slowdown   :'(
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:14:45 PM
in 360 version? wtf
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:16:34 PM
6.0 is the no-effort "we seriously don't know what to do with these games - just give them to the intern to review" score. it's a lot like the 6.0 that most 2D shooters released in the US tended to get. they do the same thing with romance of the three kingdoms.

I give this post a 6/10.
My first Musou was SHIN Sangoku Musou. i.e. Dynasty Warriors 2.
You've played one, you've played them all.

I think that can be said for more than just Musou games though.  These games aren't deserving of 6 scores (well maybe DW6), they are made better than that.   They get incremental changes made to them.  

HEY, so do all the sports games that come out every year!  How come they don't get trashed?   :-\
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:17:23 PM
in 360 version? wtf

Jesus MAF, remember that "Musou Orochi 2, BITCH" thread that you have posted in?  It's all about the 360 version and its slowdown.   :'(

The PS2 version has it too, but I think the PS2 version has LESS of it overall.  I am waiting to see if they patch the 360 version when it comes out, but I am likely going to just sell it when I finish it and get the PSP version as the "keeper."
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 12, 2008, 02:18:11 PM
I dont read posts anymore, i'm on my own straight talk express
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 12, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
I think that can be said for more than just Musou games though.  These games aren't deserving of 6 scores (well maybe DW6), they are made better than that.   They get incremental changes made to them.  

Oh I agree. They're always fun, somehow. But I find it hard to become so attached whereby I know the exact differences from game to game. 6/10 is harsh, but I can understand it from a non-Japan perspective, just like Japanese reviewers probably dread the yearly updates to FIFA, NHL, NFL, etc.

Yeah, I am just saying that if a U.S. mag scores it 6/10 because it's the "same old thing," then they need to stop being hypocrites and say the same thing about every other EA/Activision/Ubisoft game that does the same thing.

It's only been in the last two years that I have purchased most (still not all) of the Musou games.  I think they make them too frequently and they need to slow it down a bit.  I like Orochi because it has at least got an original story.  It's boring seeing the same shit remade OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again in their other games.  Gundam Musou was cool but I am not a Gundam fan.  I'd love to see them do that with another license.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 04:16:20 PM
Yeah, see, I've never played any DW (other than Gundam, I'm not a big gundam fan so I didn't really get it) so if I started with 6 I wouldn't care that all the players were nerfed.

I need no wall of fog or super shitty graphics.

Empires sounds not horrible, but I'd like to try DW6 first to see if I like the core gameplay. Empires kind of sounds like a sim tacked on. lol kessen?
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 09:39:02 PM
So these are my options:

DW6 360
DW5 Empires 360
Samurai Warriors 2 360
Warriors Orochi 360

why is SW2 so cheap? Is it assy?
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: jiji on September 12, 2008, 10:03:26 PM
No, it's good, but the 360 version was released later than the PS2 version, so they put it out for a budget-ish price. It's more common than the PS2 version, too, I think.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 10:15:07 PM
No, it's good, but the 360 version was released later than the PS2 version, so they put it out for a budget-ish price. It's more common than the PS2 version, too, I think.
what's the difference between SW2 and DW? I'm leaning towards 5 Empires since that's supposedly good.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 12, 2008, 10:16:12 PM
there's also samurai warriors 2 empires
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: demi on September 12, 2008, 10:22:41 PM
dont you have gamefly? what kind of fucking question is this.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: Trent Dole on September 12, 2008, 10:57:38 PM
I picked up DW5 Empires earlier tonight. Takes a little while to figure out the tactical nonsense but the battles are generic soldier murdering good times.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 12, 2008, 11:06:20 PM
there's also samurai warriors 2 empires

What's your fancy: SW or DW?

I forgot I can try the PSP version before I buy one of the 360 games.

Demi: it's probably not worth it to clog a queue spot with one of these when I'm trying to get a bunch of other games
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: jiji on September 12, 2008, 11:24:44 PM
what's the difference between SW2 and DW? I'm leaning towards 5 Empires since that's supposedly good.

SW has more chaotic battlefields with optional sub-missions that come and go.  These can lead to branches in a character's story. The music is more techno-ish rather than DW's riff-heavy rock. You can do more with horses in SW, like making them jump and stomping filthy dumbs. SW2 has a skill tree for each character that allows you a bit of freedom, while DW characters' stats grow only one way aside from stat pickups. DW has a bunch of equippable items instead. SW2 has no unlockable costumes.  :'(  SW has a create-a-character mode (as do the DW Empires).

I prefer DW overall, 'cause SW is a little too chaotic for me, and I like the music and setting better.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 13, 2008, 12:14:56 AM
...And Warriors Orochi is like a fusion of the two.

BTW, in Orochi 2 most of the characters have alternate outfits.  If they are not new, they are from DW4 or SW1.   :)
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 13, 2008, 01:04:57 AM
I tried the PSP Dynasty Warriors Volume 2. It was so fun  :lol

--I didn't really like the music
--I wasn't crazy about the strategy screen. I'd like something a little more in depth.
--I'd really like it if the graphics weren't as terrible. I mean it really looked bad and there weren't even that many guys on screen.

Samurai Warriors 2 Empires sounds like I wanttttt it.

I didn't actually know what anything said on screen other than my primary goal was to KICK ASS!!! Wasn't totally sure what the point in capturing supply depots was, etc.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: bork on September 13, 2008, 01:16:13 AM
I tried the PSP Dynasty Warriors Volume 2. It was so fun  :lol

--I didn't really like the music
--I wasn't crazy about the strategy screen. I'd like something a little more in depth.
--I'd really like it if the graphics weren't as terrible. I mean it really looked bad and there weren't even that many guys on screen.

Samurai Warriors 2 Empires sounds like I wanttttt it.

I didn't actually know what anything said on screen other than my primary goal was to KICK ASS!!! Wasn't totally sure what the point in capturing supply depots was, etc.

The PSP games are not going to have the best graphics, obviously.  :)  Koei did improve things starting with Samurai Warriors State Of War (full screen!), but the Warriors Orochi port is the best; it's the same as the console versions in terms of content...
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: MoxManiac on September 13, 2008, 01:49:24 AM

The fact that Lyte recommends Orochi over the Empires games is smh


I want action, not pseudo-strategy crap.

The empires games have better action though. The peon ai is really ramped up in them. Some of the peon wars in SW2 empires were crazy.
Title: Re: Is there like a dynasty warriors demo somewhere I can try?
Post by: y2kev on September 13, 2008, 12:09:32 PM
I went to buy Warriors 2 Empires but they didn't have it. :(

back to the psp