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Title: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 12, 2008, 10:41:35 PM: It was $20 in real good condition with two pads and 3 games. Is there a freeloader I buy which will allow me to burn, download and play games? I really want to check out Radiant Silvergun, and I hear Panzer Dragoon Saga is decent too. What other games are worth checking out?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: demi on September 12, 2008, 10:43:54 PM: mod it, really easy to do

oh and no, saturn sucks
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 12, 2008, 10:47:03 PM: lol

sweet looks like you just need to turn a screw or something. Awesum
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2008, 10:49:57 PM: Yeah, I just looked it up. It uses an easier version of the PS1 swap trick.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2008, 11:14:44 PM: Doorstop maybe?

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Panzer Dragoon Saga is overrated.
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Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: jiji on September 12, 2008, 11:18:49 PM: Play Galactic Attack (aka Layer Section). You should be able to get a US copy of it for under ten bones. It's one of the best shooters on the system.

If you're gonna download stuff, try Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Battle Garegga, Thunder Force V, Keio Yugekitai, Cotton 2, Elevator Action Returns, and Purikura Daisakusen. If you want an RPG, try Shining in the Darkness. If you don't mind muddling through some Japanese, try Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari. It's a sidescrolller that plays like an adventure game and has some incredible storybook-style art.

This guy seems to have modchips available: http://www.racketboy.com/saturn-modchip/index.htm
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Beezy on September 12, 2008, 11:30:12 PM: DRAGON FORCE
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 12, 2008, 11:34:10 PM: It looks like a modchip isnt even necessary, I just need to power up the laser, and Ive got a program that can change .iso and .bin files to my region
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Greatness Gone on September 12, 2008, 11:45:09 PM: Panzer Dragoon Saga ASAP. Best RPG ever. Short, awesome gameplay, and great story.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Beezy on September 12, 2008, 11:52:43 PM: I wanna play Dragon Force again... :'(
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 13, 2008, 12:00:45 AM: fuckthe shaft on my screwdriver is too wide to fit in the holes, I cant open this thing
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 13, 2008, 12:02:49 AM: Why are you opening it? is there another method?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 13, 2008, 12:20:37 AM: SHINING FORCE III
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 13, 2008, 12:25:01 AM: Quote from: swaggaz on September 13, 2008, 12:02:49 AM
Why are you opening it? is there another method?

the screw I need to adjust is inside the machine
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: tiesto on September 13, 2008, 10:31:44 AM: I just bought PDS, cost me $200, but haven't played it yet :o

That Purikura Daisakusen game jiji mentioned... never even heard of it before. Did some searching and found an article on HG101 about it, it looks really cool, but I can't find it on ebay :(

Also check out Magic Knight Rayearth, the Langrisser games (if you can read Japanese), Tengai Makyo IV (ditto... there's a great walkthrough available out there, it's an awesome RPG), Guardian Heroes, and definitely Layer Section/Galactic Attack. And oh yes, NiGHTS.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: muckhole on September 13, 2008, 11:32:30 AM: Quote from: Scenester on September 13, 2008, 12:25:01 AM
Quote from: swaggaz on September 13, 2008, 12:02:49 AM
Why are you opening it? is there another method?

the screw I need to adjust is inside the machine

Anyone have any links to this stuff? I always was under the impression that modding the Saturn was damn near impossible.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2008, 12:05:55 PM: $200 for pds? someone ripped you off good.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: muckhole on September 13, 2008, 12:24:00 PM: Quote from: Positive Touch on September 13, 2008, 12:05:55 PM
$200 for pds? someone ripped you off good.

All the ebay "buy it now" listings routinely sit between $250 to $300. Considering it's super-distinguished mentally-challenged low print run, $200 doesn't seem that crazy.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Positive Touch on September 13, 2008, 01:02:29 PM: damm, it was only 60-80 a few years ago
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: muckson on September 13, 2008, 01:09:42 PM: i heard that the samurai showdown games are pretty good too but i don't know if you can use a downloaded game with the ram pack. so was marvel vs capcom.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on September 13, 2008, 01:13:33 PM: Quote from: muckson on September 13, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
i heard that the samurai showdown games are pretty good too but i don't know if you can use a downloaded game with the ram pack. so was marvel vs capcom.
Marvel VS. Capcom was a Dreamcast game. Were you thinking of X-Men VS. Street Fighter?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 13, 2008, 01:16:14 PM: Didn't Saturn have X-men vs Street Fighter?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: jiji on September 13, 2008, 02:06:35 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on September 13, 2008, 01:16:14 PM
Didn't Saturn have X-men vs Street Fighter?

Yeah, and Marvel Super Heroes, and MSH vs. SF, and X-Men CotA.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2008, 02:19:37 PM: Get a mod chip, a 4 in 1 converter, and yer ready to go.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 13, 2008, 05:11:24 PM: Quote from: muckhole on September 13, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: Scenester on September 13, 2008, 12:25:01 AM
Quote from: swaggaz on September 13, 2008, 12:02:49 AM
Why are you opening it? is there another method?

the screw I need to adjust is inside the machine

Anyone have any links to this stuff? I always was under the impression that modding the Saturn was damn near impossible.

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2005/02/modify-saturn-to-read-cd-rw-media.html

I mean I havent tested this yet but it seems this trick combined with the region patch I got for .iso's sould allow me to play anything (anything dl'ed anyway)

If I was more financial right now I would go over to Play Asia and pick some suff up, but Im a dirty temping poor (still :'()
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 01:40:58 AM: bah trick doesnt seem to work, I'll try again tomorrow. If I have no luck I'll scoop an action replay
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2008, 02:02:59 AM: The Action Replay only lets you play imports, it won't play CD-Rs, fyi.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 02:10:14 AM: yeah I figured that... well Ive made some progress, the Saturn can actually read the audio tracks off the Radiant Silvergun CDR I burned, but it cant recognise the disc as an actual game. Im guessing the action replay can remedy this?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 02:27:28 AM: ^ yeah can anyone confirm/ clarify this? I dont want to waste 30 bones on a cartridge and then still not be able to play anything
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: demi on September 14, 2008, 02:29:12 AM: i really dont know man, saturn is a POS, never owned one
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: muckhole on September 14, 2008, 02:42:49 AM: Quote from: Scenester on September 14, 2008, 02:27:28 AM
^ yeah can anyone confirm/ clarify this? I dont want to waste 30 bones on a cartridge and then still not be able to play anything

I'm pretty sure it's a no. I've been out of the loop on that stuff for a long time, but I'm 90% sure the only way to play backups on a Saturn (aside from the trick mentioned in this thread) is a modchip. I gave up looking a while back. :'(
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2008, 02:56:28 AM: Just download a Saturn emulator, you can play all the imports and ISOs you want with that.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: muckhole on September 14, 2008, 03:01:28 AM: Are there even any decent ones? Last I heard they were pretty bad, but again, I've been out of the loop for a while.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: jiji on September 14, 2008, 03:38:22 AM: Looks to me like that adjustment trick is just so you can use CD-RW media on a Saturn that's already modded. So, either get a modchip, or get an Action Replay/4-in-1 cart and start buying games (Japanese releases are generally cheaper).
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 14, 2008, 10:14:56 AM: Try the swap trick and see if that works on the unmodded Saturn. I remember the days when I needed to do that shit every time I wanted to play my imports and it got incredibly annoying.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 15, 2008, 12:34:36 AM: Quote from: muckhole on September 14, 2008, 03:01:28 AM
Are there even any decent ones? Last I heard they were pretty bad, but again, I've been out of the loop for a while.

SSF is pretty good. It's been about two years since I've messed with it, but most games were playable at the time. I beat Panzer Dragoon Saga on it, which was running at pretty close to full-speed with occasional slow down. Radiant Silvergun was still too slow to play; Shining Force 3 was kinda slow too but it wasn't that big of a deal for that game.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2008, 12:36:49 AM: The Saturn swap trick is a total hassle. Even then you have to have a specific type of Saturn for it to work, right?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 15, 2008, 02:40:06 AM: The bunch of fighting games it has on it are pretty great, but getting a modded Xbox + FBA pretty much kills every port on the Saturn.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: ShogunOfFear on September 15, 2008, 10:04:30 AM: Import these two game now.
Street Fighter Zero 3
Xmen vs Street Fighter

I plugged my Saturn in this weekend and played these two. Games like these make me wonder how the saturn failed at the time, getting arcade perfect ports weren't easy in those days. Not to mention the Saturn pad is the greatest pad to this day for fighting games. Saturn 2D holds up much better than Playstation 3D too oh it's true.

Swap trick is no hassle.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2008, 10:29:15 AM: how do you do the swap trick then?
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 15, 2008, 10:53:03 AM: The video made it seem like the same order as on the PS1, so I think first the burnt/import game, then at one point swap for a real game, then back to the import game.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: ShogunOfFear on September 15, 2008, 11:24:33 AM: Quote from: Himuro on September 15, 2008, 10:29:15 AM
how do you do the swap trick then?

Which Ramcart Converter do you have? I have the 4mb ram and an ST Converter. For me it is like this...

With the converter in the system I power up with the imported game. As soon as you see the "Sega" Logo swap the converter with the ram cart. You have to do it within 5-6 seconds. In other words make sure you have completed the swap after the "Sega" logo but before the "Capcom" logo pops up.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2008, 12:03:48 PM: I've got an action replay and a 4mb ram

So does this swap trick work on backups? I'd like to play Dragon Force and other rare Saturn games.

Huh.

[youtube=425,350]30z2uOVD394[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2008, 12:12:33 PM: The reason I wanted a Saturn over a Playstation back in the day.

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Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: cool breeze on September 15, 2008, 12:22:24 PM: I never tried the Saturn swap trick, but unless something is really different from the PS1 swap trick, you can still play backups with it.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: y2kev on September 15, 2008, 12:39:00 PM: It's actually really easy to solder in a mod. I did it and I had never really soldered before. I used a solderless mod on my xbox.
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 15, 2008, 01:22:10 PM: Saturn import scene is ridiculous. Paying $85 for SFZ3 or Radiant Silvergun is insane. I think I saw a copy of Final Fight Revenge for well over $100, along with PDZ.

In fact, if the game costs more than $15, don't buy it, burn it.

Quote from: demi on September 14, 2008, 02:29:12 AM
i really dont know man, saturn is a POS, never owned one

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1803416&postcount=2
Title: Re: Ok I got a Saturn, what do I do with it
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 15, 2008, 09:43:28 PM: BUY ASTAL