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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: bork on September 24, 2008, 04:41:29 AM

Title: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 04:41:29 AM
So don't bother if you're a member of the J-Bore crew.  Thanks for continuing to make my XBL experience a shitty one, MS!
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2008, 04:45:09 AM
WWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT???????????????

If I have an American account on a J hardware unit?
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 04:46:21 AM
You're screwed.  I am using a U.S. account on J-hardware too.  No kicking ass and chewing bubblegum this time around.   :'(
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 04:56:58 AM
it comes up with "the content is not allowed in this region" ?
or it allows you to download it and the screws you?



I can't download it.  It says "This item is not available from your current location."  Even more fucked up is a guy on GAF in Europe with a U.S. account said he was able to get it.   :-\
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2008, 04:58:32 AM
same thing happened with Doom.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2008, 05:00:14 AM
I can't download it.  It says "This item is not available from your current location."  Even more fucked up is a guy on GAF in Europe with a U.S. account said he was able to get it.   :-\

"Fuck-a-John-Wayne." That's stupid; usually that shit seems to be in place where they'd be in breach of distribution contracts, I think. But did Duke ever even come out here in Japan?
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 05:02:28 AM
I don't think Duke ever came out in Japan, no.

same thing happened with Doom.

I got Doom over here no problem.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: originalz on September 24, 2008, 05:04:59 AM
Sucks, but maybe they'll open it up later.  It's based on you IP I think, not hardware.

I can almost guarantee this is a publisher issue and not a MS one.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2008, 05:06:39 AM
strange, pretty sure doom was ip locked for me.

will check it later.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 05:07:26 AM
Sucks, but maybe they'll open it up later.  It's based on you IP I think, not hardware.

I can almost guarantee this is a publisher issue and not a MS one.

MS is the publisher.   :'(
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2008, 05:13:38 AM
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/d/dukenukem3dxboxlivearcade/

Developer: 3D Realms
Publisher: 3D Realms
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 05:18:55 AM
Huh, I read that they had some MS exclusive deal and that MS is publishing it.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2008, 05:53:19 AM
http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32916 (http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32916)

Good jon, so instead of simply not offering it on the Japanese Marketplace, make sure that it's region lock so people with American consoles living in Japan can't download it either.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2698833064_ab617ed77d_o.jpg)
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2008, 06:29:40 AM
so distinguished mentally-challenged

how does Duke 3D get "banned" but stuff much worse is sold at retail? ???
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: originalz on September 24, 2008, 06:48:23 AM
The difference is that Z games are sold at retail.  I dunno how underage buying goes here, but Japan has some really bizarre laws with this sort of thing.  I guess since there's no way to verify your age, they won't give you the option to get it.  Still, region locking it seems like overkill.  I wonder who made the decision, 3D Realms in fear of backlash, MS for having to follow some sort of law, or CERO forcing it upon them.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 06:52:17 AM
It's banned and region-locked in Germany too.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 09:27:53 AM
How about you leave that shit Country?

 :japancry

Yes, I CALL FORTH ALL J-BORES.  WE MUST LEAVE THIS LAND IN PROTEST.  MICROSOFT SHALL FEEL OUR COMBINED MIGHT AS 360 LIVE SALES DROP TO NOTHING AND PLEAD FOR OUR RETURN.

DURING THE INTERIM WE SHALL LIVE IN GERMAN-- AW FUCK
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Jansen on September 24, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
so duke3d gets banned in japan because of a rating and this is somehow msfts fault? yeah okay.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 24, 2008, 09:45:31 AM
so distinguished mentally-challenged

how does Duke 3D get "banned" but stuff much worse is sold at retail? ???

Same reason why tubgirl's vagina is censored
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: demi on September 24, 2008, 09:49:06 AM
HUAHUAHUA

Thanks for reminding me Duke was out today. CANT WAIT TO PLAY IT
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: bork on September 24, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
Guess I'll download it onto the HDD when I'm back home at Xmas.  Buggers.

It might not work when you come back though.   :-\

Before MS region-locked TV shows and movies, I purchased a few TV shows.  Then after the great locking of 2006, I was unable to watch them despite having purchased them.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2008, 11:34:05 AM
Guess I'll just have to buy Wipeout instead on the console that doesn't enforce region locking like a bunch of simps
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2008, 11:41:01 AM
Good grief. That IP lock's inane in general, but this is really amazing. Every time MS flexes that IP address region lock, I worry about my gaming future being flushed into some DRM-laden, region-locked cesspit.

I mean, if you've got a US console, a US account, and US MS points, what is the big-ass-deal?

I guess the only thing more ridiculous is when the movie trailers on Marketplace get region locked, even though the themes and gamerpics are not, and the trailer itself can be viewed world-fucking-wide on any PC with an internet connection. Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 24, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
Why region lock dlc? thats bizzaaaaaaare
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: dark1x on September 24, 2008, 12:54:12 PM
I don't even understand why anyone is excited for this.  I mean, there are much better ways to play Duke 3D on the PC if you REALLY have to have it.  I suppose the 8-player CO-OP is a cool feature, but is that really enough?  They seemingly did a poor job porting the game.  Even the original release supported resolutions up to 800x600 (in DOS).  Why render the game at such a low resolution?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: demi on September 24, 2008, 02:32:56 PM
man this game is amazing. i'm sure glad i dont live in clinkydink japan. i would hate to miss out on this gem of a game.

anyone want to do co-op? oh i'm sorry. americans only.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2008, 06:47:43 PM
Japan's OK - for every little thing MS denies us, we get 100 items of niche-targeted fetish porn.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 24, 2008, 06:57:11 PM
Clearly they're just making TOO MUCH MONEYS from the Japan Marketplace and need to scale it back until their infrastructure can cope with the influx of yen.

Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: demi on September 24, 2008, 06:57:54 PM
the longer i leave the game running the longer i boast my superiority over the moon language race
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: originalz on September 24, 2008, 08:36:26 PM
I guess that the 10 sales they would have gotten from Japan wasn't enough incentive to get in trouble with CERO.

Goddamn you people are dumb, I'm sure that M$$$$ isn't for region locking, but you apparently can't put a Z game up and have it downloadable in Japan, probably some sort of law.  Maybe region-locking was overkill, but for all we know that had to happen.  PSN can't be compared because there aren't any games that would be banned, and their video store is region locked too.

This is the future, like it or not.  Years ago you could view anything from any site, these days all sorts of shit is IP locked.  There are a lot of streaming videos that you can't view unless you're in the States, some music sites won't work, some sites actually ban certain country IPs.  I definitely don't agree with it, but people will always want to control the Internet.  I'm sure we'll be looking at the "good old days" when you could look at anything on the Internet without the majority of content being IP restricted.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 24, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
Don't conflate 'irate' with 'dumb'...
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2008, 10:58:49 PM
I guess that the 10 sales they would have gotten from Japan wasn't enough incentive to get in trouble with CERO.

Goddamn you people are dumb, I'm sure that M$$$$ isn't for region locking, but you apparently can't put a Z game up and have it downloadable in Japan, probably some sort of law.  Maybe region-locking was overkill, but for all we know that had to happen.  PSN can't be compared because there aren't any games that would be banned, and their video store is region locked too.

This is the future, like it or not.  Years ago you could view anything from any site, these days all sorts of shit is IP locked.  There are a lot of streaming videos that you can't view unless you're in the States, some music sites won't work, some sites actually ban certain country IPs.  I definitely don't agree with it, but people will always want to control the Internet.  I'm sure we'll be looking at the "good old days" when you could look at anything on the Internet without the majority of content being IP restricted.

It's great that you have already given up while the fight is still going on. The media companies in the US are waging a PR war on Fair Use and other means of participating and responding to arts and entertainment in our culture. They want to keep it all locked up and dole it out in little chunks, packaged and repackaged, under an endless copyright.

Right now I've got stuff on my 360 which I paid for, that I can't access unless I'm logged in to XBL. Ass-clownery.
Title: Re: More XBL Shittiness: Duke Nukem 3D is REGION-LOCKED.
Post by: originalz on September 25, 2008, 01:07:49 AM
Right now I've got stuff on my 360 which I paid for, that I can't access unless I'm logged in to XBL. Ass-clownery.

Use the DRM tool on Microsoft's website.