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Title: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 24, 2006, 08:19:40 PM
http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17672

TheOneRing.net is pretty trustworthy, they annouced Jackson's statement that he isn't directing the Hobbit before anyone else.

WILLCOOOOO THOUGHTS?
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: mikesphat on November 24, 2006, 08:32:22 PM
it will never get better than the cartoon version...
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 24, 2006, 08:41:03 PM
I'd much rather see Jackson do it.
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"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Lonestar on November 24, 2006, 08:42:02 PM
No one gives a shit about The Hobbit. 
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 24, 2006, 08:43:11 PM
Pixar 'The Hobbit' would have been awesome.

Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 24, 2006, 08:48:43 PM
Pixar 'The Hobbit' would have been awesome.



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Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 24, 2006, 09:22:31 PM
I'd much rather see Jackson do it.
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"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha
It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 24, 2006, 09:24:22 PM
I think it's a bad idea and I think Raimi would be a fool to tackle such a franchise.  He'd live in the shadow of Jackson, if not completely collapse under it and could ruin his career (which is pretty much now set to CAN MAKE WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT).
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 24, 2006, 09:25:28 PM
I'd much rather see Jackson do it.
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"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha
It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.

New Line is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. I can't wait until this bombs
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 24, 2006, 09:32:23 PM
I'd much rather see Jackson do it.
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"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha
It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.

New Line is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. I can't wait until this bombs
People said the same thing about X-Men III. The average movie goer doesn't care nor know of behind the scenes drama nor cares about reviews.

It will do good business, unless Raimi makes Bilbo be played by Bruce Cambell or something. The same who predict this movies boxoffice failure predicted the same of Ratner's X-Men.

Could this rushed hobbit suck? Yes. It will still make around 300 million. Even Narnia was able to do that kind of numbers.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Ecrofirt on November 24, 2006, 09:52:03 PM
If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 24, 2006, 09:53:11 PM
If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.
Bruce will be in it, but what role!
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Sceneman on November 24, 2006, 11:25:11 PM
This thread sucks
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Disposable White Guy on November 24, 2006, 11:29:39 PM
If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.
Bruce will be in it, but what role!

The voice of Smaug!
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Solo on November 25, 2006, 09:48:20 AM
 :lol @ this thread
It doesnt matter who directs the movie really. This is a movie that will be seen by the masses who saw LOTR, who probably didnt know or care who directed the LOTR trilogy. Im talking box office revenue-wise here. I could direct this movie and it would cross $300M. Its got the casual movie going crowd already embedded as fans.

The majority of movie goers arent film buffs, and dont know/care who is the director/writer/cinematographer/editor/etc. Its sad for those of us that are movie buffs, but its definately true.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 25, 2006, 10:05:17 AM
:lol @ this thread
It doesnt matter who directs the movie really. This is a movie that will be seen by the masses who saw LOTR, who probably didnt know or care who directed the LOTR trilogy. Im talking box office revenue-wise here. I could direct this movie and it would cross $300M. Its got the casual movie going crowd already embedded as fans.

The majority of movie goers arent film buffs, and dont know/care who is the director/writer/cinematographer/editor/etc. Its sad for those of us that are movie buffs, but its definately true.
I have been saying that as well. The internets film "experts" doesn't get that.

I  mean I can't believe people are like this after X-Men 3. EVERYTHING that could go wrong on that film went wrong. Rushed schedule, last minute director's who isn't liked by the "geek" community, most major characters killed off..etc. And it did better than the previous two films.

Sam Raimi is no Brett Ratner.

You guys over-estimate the appeal of PJ. After LOTR people thought of him as the new George Lucas(OT era at least) and Spielberg. They predicted cause of his name power King Kong might even outdo TITANTIC. And people honestly thought that. It made 200 million, good yes, but it was crushed by Narnia and the numbers weren't close to Lucas or Spielberg at his height.

Tolkien's work bring in 300+ million, Jackson doesn't.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 25, 2006, 12:00:22 PM
Cheebs, you have to be a moron if you don't think Jackson is directly tied into the success of LOTR.  Tolkien's name might've secured a $60 million gross, but if it was a shit film, it'd make shit numbers.  Jackson is a recognizable director, as in the household person can point him out in the streets - that's huge.  Jackson not being on The Hobbit would be a lot different than X-Men, because most people couldn't point out Bryan Singer.  He's nowhere near that hemisphere.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 25, 2006, 12:01:01 PM
The fact that a piece of shit like King Kong could do $200 million is proof positive of that, not against it.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 25, 2006, 12:46:37 PM
Kong did $550 million worldwide. It wasn't a bomb.

If the LOTR films were bad it would have effected them in the boxoffice. People would not have sat through movies as long as those if they didn't feel confidant the movies would be good; luckily for New Line, the movies were very good, and they gained a huge audience who wasn't familiar with the books. Trust me, if FOTR sucked the franchise might have pulled a Matrix, but on a bigger level. The first Matrix movie was awesome, and people went into the sequel expecting good things. The movie wasn't good, and large audiences didn't come back for the third movie
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Fatghost28 on November 25, 2006, 01:05:06 PM
Bruce Campbell is the only man who could make the Hobbit work.


We should start a petition.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Cheebs on November 25, 2006, 01:42:15 PM
Willco I'll bet you...uh something that if Raimi directs The Hobbit that it will make at least 280 million.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 25, 2006, 02:17:07 PM
It's a completely irrelevant comparison since he'd be directing an established franchise at that point.  There's a huge difference.  If it was the first live action Tolkien adaptation - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

And even if Raimi was at the helm, if the movie sucked, it would not do $280 million.  There's not the fervor to push a mediocre franchise to huge numbers like there was with Star Wars.  It's too new.  It'd be like The Matrix all over again.

LOTR did gangbusters not just because it's based on a popular literary work, but because it crossed over to the mainstream.  It brought it way more people than bookworms and the age demographic was expansive.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 25, 2006, 02:23:33 PM
It's a completely irrelevant comparison since he'd be directing an established franchise at that point.  There's a huge difference.  If it was the first live action Tolkien adaptation - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

And even if Raimi was at the helm, if the movie sucked, it would not do $280 million.  There's not the fervor to push a mediocre franchise to huge numbers like there was with Star Wars.  It's too new.  It'd be like The Matrix all over again.

LOTR did gangbusters not just because it's based on a popular literary work, but because it crossed over to the mainstream.  It brought it way more people than bookworms and the age demographic was expansive.

Playing devil's advocate: how do you explain the success of The Da Vinci Code, which was blasted by critics but still reaped millions upon millions of dollars in gross?
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 25, 2006, 02:43:20 PM
The Da Vinci Code is more than just a popular book; it was a pop culture phenomenon and they struck while the iron was hot with a hugely bankable star.  Plus, most critics had problems getting early screenings, hence the very frontloaded opening.

It's similar to The Exorcist.  Look how huge that was in its heyday despite production problems and graphic nature for its time.  It rode the huge sensation that was the novel to box office millions.
Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Diablos on November 25, 2006, 03:13:34 PM
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Title: Re: Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 25, 2006, 07:08:43 PM
The Da Vinci Code is more than just a popular book; it was a pop culture phenomenon and they struck while the iron was hot with a hugely bankable star.  Plus, most critics had problems getting early screenings, hence the very frontloaded opening.

It's similar to The Exorcist.  Look how huge that was in its heyday despite production problems and graphic nature for its time.  It rode the huge sensation that was the novel to box office millions.

*claps*