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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: hyp on October 16, 2008, 06:02:15 PM

Title: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: hyp on October 16, 2008, 06:02:15 PM
:elephant :elephant  :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant


HW Sales
PlayStation 2 173.5K
PlayStation 3 232.4K
PSP 238.1K
Xbox 360 347.2K
Wii 687.0K
Nintendo DS 536.8K

Top 10 SW Sales
Publisher Release Date Rank # Units
360 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 1 610K
WII WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 518K
360 ROCK BAND 2 MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS Sep-08 3 363K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 353K
PS3 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 5 325K
360 MERCENARIES 2: WORLD IN FLAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 6 297K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 7 243K
360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 8 224K
WII STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 9 223K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 10 158K
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:04:47 PM
How long left? I can't wait (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yRrWpLyLAU)
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 06:06:07 PM
:bow Hyp, the true gamer :bow2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 06:07:05 PM
Wii Music to chart at #1 based on sp0rsk's show. :bow2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mupepe on October 16, 2008, 06:07:23 PM
We should close this thread 12 hours after numbers are released to contain the infection NPD seems to cause.

You don't need a license to drive a sandwich
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 06:10:09 PM
We should close this thread 12 hours after numbers are released to contain the infection NPD seems to cause.

You don't need a license to drive a sandwich

The idiocy and fanboyism is kept to a minimum here. No need to worry, luv.  :hump
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 06:12:15 PM
If 360 doesn't push close to 400k at least i will call bomba on the price drop.

If Ps3 doesn't pass the 200k mark i will call bomba on PS3.

Let's get the party rolling.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:13:45 PM
[youtube=425,350]-Mydu9N0PBw[/youtube]
 :violin
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: hyp on October 16, 2008, 06:14:05 PM
:bow Hyp, the true gamer :bow2

:tauntaun
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:23:11 PM
Wii 600,000
360 310,000
PS3 220,000

DS 630,000
PSP 300,000

predictions
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 16, 2008, 06:30:33 PM
I predict:

Wii - 580,000
360 - 290,000
PS3 - 180,000

DS - 590,000
PSP - 170,000
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mupepe on October 16, 2008, 06:34:45 PM
I contributed to the 360 numbers
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:42:34 PM
I wonder if Too Human will still be in the top ten  :o
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: MCD on October 16, 2008, 06:43:17 PM
garbage day.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Jansen on October 16, 2008, 06:53:02 PM
HW Sales
PlayStation 2 173.5K
PlayStation 3 232.4K
PSP 238.1K
Xbox 360 347.2K
Wii 687.0K
Nintendo DS 536.8K

Top 10 SW Sales
Publisher Release Date Rank # Units
360 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 1 610K
WII WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 518K
360 ROCK BAND 2 MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS Sep-08 3 363K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 353K
PS3 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 5 325K
360 MERCENARIES 2: WORLD IN FLAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 6 297K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 7 243K
360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 8 224K
WII STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 9 223K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 10 158K
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:56:23 PM
Quote
"Although PC games sales are not included in these numbers, there were two that should be pointed out. Spore realized sales of 406K units and Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning sold 274K which would put them both in the top 10 list of combined console, portable and pc games sales for the month."

 :borys
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Wow, Forced Unleashed did damn good.

Can't believe Mario Kart is STILL selling.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Jansen on October 16, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
ps3 software sales are so sad
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: drohne on October 16, 2008, 06:57:35 PM
so basically there's nothing that will ever make people want an xbox 360
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: Kagari
I thought 360 would be over 400K. PS3 didn't do as bad as I thought. I was thinking 170K or less. But it held its own against the 360 price cut.

It Begins
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Jansen on October 16, 2008, 07:00:54 PM
It Begins

i was about to post that lol

getting beat by 115,000 is holding your own :lol
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 07:03:05 PM
Looks like LBP is the only thing that can save the PS3 at this point.

hint:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
No, it can't.
[close]
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2008, 07:04:01 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/father_brain/ps3-gcnjpgpsd.jpg)

lmao
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
360 averaged about 70k per week, as Schulema points out (on the gaffo) taht's not really too accelerated over normal pace-- about 280k/w.

PS3 is total bomba of course.

Gen is really dead. Thank god for Dead Space.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: demi on October 16, 2008, 07:07:48 PM
camerondavis: Top 10 SW Sales
Publisher Release Date Rank # Units
360 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 1 610K
WII WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 518K
360 ROCK BAND 2 MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS Sep-08 3 363K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 353K
PS3 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 5 325K
360 MERCENARIES 2: WORLD IN FLAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 6 297K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 7 243K
360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 8 224K
WII STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 9 223K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 10 158K

Cameron Davis [8:44 AM]:
TOP TEN DEMI
TOP MOTHERFUCKING TEN
I TOLD YOU


Thomas: what number 9? haha
thats BOMBA
look at 360


camerondavis: you said it wouldnt be top 10
there it is
EAT IT


:lol fucking Gazza
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: drohne on October 16, 2008, 07:07:59 PM
Looks like LBP is the only thing that can save the PS3 at this point.

hint:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
No, it can't.
[close]

home

hint:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
home
[close]
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 07:09:26 PM
Wait for VF5
Wait until Motorstorm
Wait until Warhawk
Wait for Lair
Wait until Uncharted
Wait until DMC4
Wait until MGS4


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wait until God of War 3
[close]
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
Wait for VF5
Wait until Motorstorm
Wait until Warhawk
Wait for Lair
Wait until Uncharted
Wait until DMC4
Wait until MGS4


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wait until God of War 3
[close]

Wait until FFXIII.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 07:13:09 PM
Wait for VF5
Wait until Motorstorm
Wait until Warhawk
Wait for Lair
Wait until Uncharted
Wait until DMC4
Wait until MGS4


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wait until God of War 3
[close]

Wait until FFXIII VS.

Fixed.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: MCD on October 16, 2008, 07:15:40 PM
vesperia bombed harder than blue dragon.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 07:17:52 PM
this gen has been awesome, filthy poors without awesome hd consoles can weep into their waggles

but hopefully all this doom and gloom will drive salestard fanboys far away from the hobby, where they can culminate their unfathomable misery over one soulless corporation outselling another by eating a dick and a bullet
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: TVC15 on October 16, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
Too Human managed to break 200K!  

What would it have to sell to be profitable?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
We are hearing some pretty grim things concerning game sales outlook this season :'(

Well if Spore is the New Bomba standard you have nothing to worry about :bow
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
Meh all around.

360 did solid, even thought i was expecting a bit closer to 400k, Ps3 did it's shitty over 200k standard.

Bah, whatever. GAP still very noticeable in the software sales though, Ps3 with only one title....which sold half of what the 360 version sold.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Jansen on October 16, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
vesperia bombed harder than blue dragon.

what is vesperia at?

someone posted that it is around 70k... wow.

i wonder how bad IU sales are?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 07:26:07 PM
drop the game prices
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 07:27:38 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13254640&postcount=92

This is what makes Sony fans fun.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: tiesto on October 16, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
Damn, Madden and Star Wars keeps getting top 10.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 07:34:16 PM
Quote
Unique Controls Put Wii at No. 1 for September NPD; Nintendo DS at No. 2

Backed by a variety of unique interfaces, Nintendo’s Wii™ console topped the U.S. video game hardware sales charts with nearly 687,000 units sold in September, according to the independent NPD Group, which tracks video game sales in the United States. Nintendo DS™ was the No. 2 best-selling system, with nearly 537,000 sold.

Wii enjoyed the biggest monthly unit sales increase with 234,000 more units sold in September than August. Wii also saw a year-over-year increase of more than 37 percent over September 2007.

Four games made for Nintendo systems placed in the top 10 best-selling games of the month, including Wii Fit™ at No. 2 with nearly 518,000 sold, Mario Kart™ Wii at No. 4 with more than 353,000 sold, Wii Play™ at No. 7 with nearly 243,000 sold and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed for Wii at No. 8 with more than 223,000 sold.

“The four Wii games in the top 10 all feature controls just not possible on other video game systems,” said Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. “The Wii Balance Board and Wii Wheel give players new ways to interact with their games, while the Wii Remote controller transforms into a pool cue, table tennis paddle or lightsaber. Consumers have truly responded to this variety of entertainment options.”
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
Hasn't this industry been fairly recession proof, tho?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
Quote
“The four Wii games in the top 10 all feature controls just not possible on other video game systems,” said Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing.

:bow Wii, True Next-Gen Console :bow2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 07:40:28 PM
Sorny sez:

Quote
PS3 Sales Setting the Stage for a Solid Holiday Season; Total PlayStation Sales Up 20 Percent Year-Over-Year
PlayStation 3 Hardware Unit Sales Top 232,408
PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) again experienced consistent momentum in September 2008, with 232,408 hardware units sold according to The NPD Group, an increase of over 94% year-over-year and an increase of more than 25% over the previous month. Additionally, software sales for PS3 experienced year-over-year growth of 130% with 1.72 million units sold.
Software sales are expected to continue their upward projection in October as SCEA kicks off the holiday season with the highly anticipated launches of LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, and NBA ’09: The Inside.
PlayStation®Network remained a popular destination with newly added games and entertainment content such as WipEout HD, Linger in Shadows and PAIN: Amusement Park. There are currently more than 12 million registered accounts worldwide and over 240 million pieces of content have been downloaded worldwide.
PSP also experienced strong sales, with 238,056 hardware units sold.
Fueled by enthusiasm for the limited-edition LEGO Batman: The Videogame PlayStation®2(PS2) Pack, PS2 generated solid sales in September, with 173,527 hardware units sold, 20% growth from last month. An impressive 42.9 million PS2s have been sold in the U.S. as of September 2008.

Power of the PlayStation Portfolio
The PlayStation brand experienced strong sales across all three platforms, earning $379 million in September.
Year-to-date (Jan-Sept), the PlayStation brand has generated $4.03 billion in revenue, representing an increase of 20% year-over-year.
PlayStation total hardware revenue was $160.5 million in September, representing a year-to-year growth of 11%.
PlayStation total software revenue in September was $180 million, representing a year-to-year growth of 17%.

CEO Perspective

“We remain confident that our footing is solid as we enter the holiday season this year. Our new 80GB PS3 model has made its way to retail shelves and into consumers’ living rooms as the best value for both their gaming and entertainment needs. If the impressive pre-sale numbers and ratings for LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM: Confrontation, and Resistance 2 are any indication, we anticipate hardware and software sales to continue to lift in October as we officially kick off the broadest and deepest software line-up this holiday, including LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM: Confrontation, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift and NBA ’09: The Inside.

- Jack Tretton, president and CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment America
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mrbob on October 16, 2008, 07:40:46 PM
Boring numbers are boring.

Regarding video game sales for this holiday and 09, they have to start tailing off eventually.  Growth has been at an astronomical rate and things can't keep up forever.  Growing much faster than other entertainment formats.  Even if sales start leveling off, this is still a big chunk of money being spent.  
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: TVC15 on October 16, 2008, 07:40:54 PM
It's never really had to go through a real recession.  The last one, in the late 80s/early 90s, was on the cusp of the 8/16 bit gens, so it is difficult to say whether it had any effect.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 07:44:15 PM
Sorny sez:

:piss Playstation Brand :piss2

Bubububu Lego Batman PS2 sales and wait for LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2!  :'(
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mrbob on October 16, 2008, 07:44:45 PM
Oh and just look at the relase list for the next month....it IS crazy.

Publishers need to stop cramming so much shit into such a small window.

Next three weeks:

Fable 2
Far Cry 2
LBP
Fallout 3
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
Gears 2
Mirrors Edge
Tomb Raider
Red Alert 3
Left 4 Dead

Dead Space, Saints Row 2 just came out.  It is publishers own damn fault for pushing so many games out in such a tiny window.  Bombs are deserved.  I will enjoy it too when I get a ton of 30 dollar games in January.  
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 07:45:01 PM
This first wave of HD gaming is going to go down as a disaster. Sony and Microsoft are leaving so much money on the table that they won't turn a profit for a long time, if ever. Certain companies are obviously doing well thanks to bankable IPs but that's not the norm. Many smaller companies did well with the PS2/Xbox thanks to low development costs and reasonable pricing; not the case anymore

What's the benefit of developing a no name PS3 title right now? Developing for the Wii you may not make money but you sure as hell won't lose any
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 07:47:41 PM
I think the 360 price drop was meant to make it stop selling 200k a month. We will see what happens from now on.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
That's like saying that a low budget movie has a better chance at making a buck going direct to dvd than spending money on being released in cinema theaters.

No shit? Not every game will make profit, just like not every movie makes profit. Why some people find the thought outrageous is beyond me.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 16, 2008, 08:00:19 PM
Madden PS2 158,000
Madden PS3 doesn't chart
 :lol

Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2008, 08:01:04 PM
i'm not sure the analogy with films works too well.

Fundamentally solid and engaging gameplay can be created at a relatively low cost, the game won't potentially be as polished or as deep/complicated as a large budget title, but you can make something addictive and popular. Peggle springs to mind and those popcap thingies.

... actually it does work doesn't it? lol. That's just a mirror of indie films - but i think games , for whatever reason, do better. I guess perhaps down to the larger price differential between those games and big name games.

But how do those type of games sell, and are publishers interested in marketing them or will they just finance a small developer to try to make the next Gears, or the next Halo, etc?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:03:54 PM
Vesperia at 70k would be an uptick from abyss I think.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 08:04:19 PM
i'm not sure the analogy with films works too well.

Fundamentally solid and engaging gameplay can be created at a relatively low cost, the game won't potentially be as polished or as deep/complicated as a large budget title, but you can make something addictive and popular. Peggle springs to mind and those popcap thingies.

... actually it does work doesn't it? lol. That's just a mirror of indie films - but i think games , for whatever reason, do better. I guess perhaps down to the larger price differential between those games and big name games.

Or like T.V shows that sell like gangbusters on DVd. I just think that this industry still hasn't realized that if you wanna do a really big game and you want it to make a lot of money, then you better make a game that can compete with other big games.

Doesn't matter if you spend 50 million dollars in your game if it looks like a crappy game. The Golden Watch (?) had a mega budget behind it and it tanked at the box office, why? Because it was a lame movie.

Bombs happen. If the funding channel of the industry can't cover it, then there's something wrong with the channel. Everyone has been saying for years that the Industry needs to adopt another model for funding games, a publisher dropping 50 on its own in a game just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I think the 360 price drop was meant to make it stop selling 200k a month. We will see what happens from now on.

but what do they need to do now? (that they haven't yet done?)

i mean MS is the only company that, other than making a crappy RRoDying hardware, made all the right choices/decisions:

- price
- hardware easy to develop games for (very close to PC)
- first party titles... and gears (soon to be a flagship title, dethroning halo imo)
- online
- Arcade
- OS
- swaying Japanese devs and even securing exclusives

i mean if i were them i'd be out of ideas, poor guys :(

Now they need to keep going with the flow man. Try to bring even better games, and sure try some of that casual shite too, try to offer both, try to keep expanding the online functionality.

If they do that they will keep making existing fans happy, and however slowly, make new fans happy, which means that next gen they will have a bigger fanbase ready to take the next step with them.

Look, you don't need to be the biggest club in the world in order to be a big club. Life goes on, you always try the next big thing. Look at Warner Brothers, Batman Begins did "ok" all things considered, then TDK came and bam.

It's business, nothing ever stops, there's always the next move.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
I do think you're going to see a lot more 40-50 dollar games starting in January, and quicker price drops, but really that isn't going to sustain anyone in the long run.  i do think that companies that have an aggressive budget (Wii) lineup coupled with downloadable titles are going to do a lot better, but I expect a pretty big implosion of the companies heavily invested in next-gen (especially EA).

already happening. pure and IU are already retailing at cut rates. it's a good thing imo, but we must save ea
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:14:42 PM
I do think you're going to see a lot more 40-50 dollar games starting in January, and quicker price drops, but really that isn't going to sustain anyone in the long run.  i do think that companies that have an aggressive budget (Wii) lineup coupled with downloadable titles are going to do a lot better, but I expect a pretty big implosion of the companies heavily invested in next-gen (especially EA).

I know this is anectdotal evidence, but i have three friends with ps3s, one with a Wii, and one (soon to be two over the holidays) with (a) 360(s).  Only one of them regularly buys games (she's the one with a 360/PS3/Wii), and that's only because she gets discounts and privileges where she works (take a guess).  If what you're saying comes to pass, my other two friends will start buying new games, because right now they wait for those games to hit the $40 (or less) mark used - if they buy at all. I really do think it will help more than you seem to think, because I believe the majority of "sometimes gamers" fit the mold of my two PS3-owning friends.  I myself will be more apt to try games I otherwise would have given a pass to or waited for a drop (Dead Space).  It's going to take a few big games to push a $40-50 price point from "It's cheap so it must suck" to "That's a good deal," though.  Also, less hardware skus.  Both my friends were confused as hell when they went to buy PS3s, even when I explained the differences, so they just went the cheapest route.  People don't want to do research, they just want to walk into a store and walk out a few minutes later with a system and a couple of games.  That, in my opinion, is what really fucked this gen from the get-go in regards to sales (along with "lol that thing is too goddamned expensive").
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Brehvolution on October 16, 2008, 08:15:04 PM
:piss Sales age :piss2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:21:09 PM
Oh and just look at the relase list for the next month....it IS crazy.

Publishers need to stop cramming so much shit into such a small window.

Next three weeks:

Fable 2
Far Cry 2
Resistance 2
Mirrors Edge


I would have bought every single one of these games had they been spaced throught the usual Jan-April drought, now I'm not buying any
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 16, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
Oh and just look at the relase list for the next month....it IS crazy.

Publishers need to stop cramming so much shit into such a small window.

Next three weeks:

Fable 2
Far Cry 2
Resistance 2
Mirrors Edge


I would have bought every single one of these games had they been spaced throught the usual Jan-April drought, now I'm not buying any

And the several million people who don't buy games at all during that time wouldn't buy them.

quiet, you with your facts and maths and industry experience
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:27:42 PM
There's a happy medium in there though. Games absolutely can be successful in even the summer, so I think maybe moving some of the games that we all know are going to get buried-- Motorstorm 2-- to February or even June, would make sense.

Loading up the holiday season makes sense, sure. But if just one of those games moved to the dry period, I bet everyone would be more successful.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:30:08 PM
I don't believe that

Before Jaws, there was no such thing as a Summer blockbuster movie

Studios didn't release their big films in the Summer months, it was assumed no one wanted to sit in a theater when they could be out in the sun

I believe the same could be true for games

An April release didn't seem to hurt GTAIV sales

but, hey, why should I complain, I'll pick up Mirror's Edge for $30 in March
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 16, 2008, 08:31:28 PM
NPD is so fucking boring now.

BLAH BLAH BLAH Wii>360>PS3 blah blah blah haha mama robotnick blha blha blah


Rock Band 2 definitely didn't do so hot though.  Maybe the special edition will have better luck.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:33:07 PM
Oh and just look at the relase list for the next month....it IS crazy.

Publishers need to stop cramming so much shit into such a small window.

Next three weeks:

Fable 2
Far Cry 2
Resistance 2
Mirrors Edge


I would have bought every single one of these games had they been spaced throught the usual Jan-April drought, now I'm not buying any

And the several million people who don't buy games at all during that time wouldn't buy them.

quiet, you with your facts and maths and industry experience

should i not express my opinion at all, then?

i mean, you guys are in there, so you must know eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvverything

while i only, you know, buy the fucking games you make

jesus
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:33:37 PM
EA made their bed with RB2 and now they lie in it. Should have been DLC. And it's 10 months after RB1. Wtffles

You can't get your base used to logging on every week for DLC and then put out a disk. That just seems so counterproductive to me.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: demi on October 16, 2008, 08:34:27 PM
why buy games when you have gamefly
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 16, 2008, 08:38:19 PM
Oh and just look at the relase list for the next month....it IS crazy.

Publishers need to stop cramming so much shit into such a small window.

Next three weeks:

Fable 2
Far Cry 2
Resistance 2
Mirrors Edge


I would have bought every single one of these games had they been spaced throught the usual Jan-April drought, now I'm not buying any

And the several million people who don't buy games at all during that time wouldn't buy them.

quiet, you with your facts and maths and industry experience

should i not express my opinion at all, then?

i mean, you guys are in there, so you must know eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvverything

while i only, you know, buy the fucking games you make

jesus

no, I mean, I believe you when you say you would have bought them if they had come out earlier

so would I

but the sales figures simply do not support publishing games any time other than this time of year
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:43:20 PM
well, i apologize then, i totally took that the wrong way

jan-feb is probably a bad time, it is for any retail product

but march, april, may - by then gamers have finished all their year-end games, their cash flow has stabilized somewhat from the holidays, and they're probably looking for something new

i know i am
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
EA made their bed with RB2 and now they lie in it. Should have been DLC. And it's 10 months after RB1. Wtffles

You can't get your base used to logging on every week for DLC and then put out a disk. That just seems so counterproductive to me.
??? it sold fine.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:50:03 PM
i probably shouldn't complain about having too many games to buy, or paying discount prices months after a new game is released, because that only benefits me

i'd hate to see good people lose their jobs over this kind of stuff, though

some hugely hyped game is going to tank or be borderline, and my money this year is on mirror's edge

outside gaming circles no one knows what the fuck it is, and trying to explain it just gets you a glassy-eyed stare
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:51:53 PM
EA made their bed with RB2 and now they lie in it. Should have been DLC. And it's 10 months after RB1. Wtffles

You can't get your base used to logging on every week for DLC and then put out a disk. That just seems so counterproductive to me.
??? it sold fine.

Yeah, I was joking ;)

I read enough articles saying that it should be DLC to know I don't care what it is.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:52:29 PM
you don't think all the early buzz about the movie will help PoP?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2008, 08:54:53 PM
EA made their bed with RB2 and now they lie in it. Should have been DLC. And it's 10 months after RB1. Wtffles

You can't get your base used to logging on every week for DLC and then put out a disk. That just seems so counterproductive to me.
??? it sold fine.

Yeah, I was joking ;)

I read enough articles saying that it should be DLC to know I don't care what it is.
It should have been DLC and a patch, but Harmonix was obviously trying to take some wind out of Guitar Hero World Tour's upcoming sales.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 08:55:03 PM
Was prince of persia ever a big seller? I thought sot bombed and forced WW to go emo, and I bought Two Thrones at launch and it was half price like two months later.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: drew on October 16, 2008, 08:57:05 PM
 :zzz
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 08:57:16 PM
EA made their bed with RB2 and now they lie in it. Should have been DLC. And it's 10 months after RB1. Wtffles

You can't get your base used to logging on every week for DLC and then put out a disk. That just seems so counterproductive to me.
??? it sold fine.

Yeah, I was joking ;)

I read enough articles saying that it should be DLC to know I don't care what it is.

I have mixed feelings on stuff like the Rock Band: AC/DC Track Pack, but as long as they let us keep exporting our songs, I have no problems with a yearly sequel. 84 songs (and GUI enhancements) for $60 is good deal.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 08:58:09 PM
you don't think all the early buzz about the movie will help PoP?

Not at all. (at least imo) May do slightly better than the last PoP if it's lucky.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 08:59:07 PM
you can only export once with AC/DC, there's a code in the case, so if your HDD shits the bed you're screwed
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2008, 09:00:29 PM
you can only export once with AC/DC, there's a code in the case, so if your HDD shits the bed you're screwed

Doubtful.  If it's like RB1's export system then the redemption code flags your gamertag with a key that allows you to export as many times as you want to.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Oblivion on October 16, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
Was prince of persia ever a big seller? I thought sot bombed and forced WW to go emo, and I bought Two Thrones at launch and it was half price like two months later.

I dunno about bomb, per se. But I believe it sold under Ubi's expectations. Ubi said WW sold 1.8 million in its first month, but then again, they were using Sonyspeak, and I don't have NPD numbers for that, so who knows.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2008, 09:01:26 PM
i need to build a new pc if i want cheaper new games, is what it boils down to
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 16, 2008, 09:03:34 PM
Was prince of persia ever a big seller? I thought sot bombed and forced WW to go emo, and I bought Two Thrones at launch and it was half price like two months later.

I dunno about bomb, per se. But I believe it sold under Ubi's expectations. Ubi said WW sold 1.8 million in its first month, but then again, they were using Sonyspeak, and I don't have NPD numbers for that, so who knows.

1.8 mil shipped across 3 platforms worldwide I could believe, I guess. Still, that's definitely shipped.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 09:04:22 PM
you can only export once with AC/DC, there's a code in the case, so if your HDD shits the bed you're screwed

Doubtful.  If it's like RB1's export system then the redemption code flags your gamertag with a key that allows you to export as many times as you want to.

If it's not like that, then the righteous indignation of a million nerds will be upon EA such that it'll make SecuROM look like a happy memory. The 1-star Amazon reviews will be coming so fast and furious, it'll make their heads spin.  :maf
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2008, 09:07:37 PM
you can only export once with AC/DC, there's a code in the case, so if your HDD shits the bed you're screwed

Doubtful.  If it's like RB1's export system then the redemption code flags your gamertag with a key that allows you to export as many times as you want to.

If it's not like that, then the righteous indignation of a million nerds will be upon EA such that it'll make SecuROM look like a happy memory. The 1-star Amazon reviews will be coming so fast and furious, it'll make their heads spin.  :maf
It'll have to be 1-star Walmart.com reviews since it's exclusive there. :P
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2008, 09:15:19 PM
Whoops, I forgot about that. :lol But now I realize why it's a Wal-Mart exclusive.  :P
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Bocsius on October 16, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
If 360 doesn't push close to 400k at least i will call bomba on the price drop.

If Ps3 doesn't pass the 200k mark i will call bomba on PS3.

Let's get the party rolling.

OK, waiting for it.

Meh all around.

360 did solid, even thought i was expecting a bit closer to 400k

 :o

Come on now! Call it like it is! ;)

360's price drop bombed. It's going to settle in around 200K a month fairly quickly once the holiday rush is over. HD consoles am fail.

Er, to be fair, they're actually not doing all too bad in historical context, at least compared to last gen. 360 + PS3 are doing better than Xbox + GameCube. But enough of historical fairness.

Public :piss 360 PS3 :piss2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Bocsius on October 16, 2008, 09:48:31 PM
Maybe now they'll start making real games on the Wii?


Why bother? Fake games seem to be selling pretty well. All hail the shovelware.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: WrikaWrek on October 16, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
If 360 doesn't push close to 400k at least i will call bomba on the price drop.

If Ps3 doesn't pass the 200k mark i will call bomba on PS3.

Let's get the party rolling.

OK, waiting for it.

Meh all around.

360 did solid, even thought i was expecting a bit closer to 400k

 :o

Come on now! Call it like it is! ;)

360's price drop bombed. It's going to settle in around 200K a month fairly quickly once the holiday rush is over. HD consoles am fail.

Er, to be fair, they're actually not doing all too bad in historical context, at least compared to last gen. 360 + PS3 are doing better than Xbox + GameCube. But enough of historical fairness.

Public :piss 360 PS3 :piss2


Wut? I can't say it bombed because it was only 50k short of 400k. I was expecting something like 300k. So uh no...and i didn't even made predictions, and am not even going to bother and try to shoot a "it will do around 200k" whatever out of my ass either.

But yeah, they should be selling better. Then again, i'm just happy i don't have to play the Wii, the shittiest of the shittiest consoles ever.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 16, 2008, 10:07:12 PM
you don't think all the early buzz about the movie will help PoP?
Not really.  Missing the end of November is bad, in terms of sales and word of mouth.  Why they didn't push it off is baffling.

Cosigned - December makes no sense. With the franchise history, it would be an easy sell in Spring/Summer. But then this is Ubi, who seems to get off on dropping their games to $20 as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mrbob on October 16, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
Maybe now they'll start making real games on the Wii?

Why.

Star Wars sales proves the Wii userbase don't care.  The ones who bought it probably are casuals who did off the license.

Besides, shovelware is selling the system.  I say give the people what they want.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 16, 2008, 10:27:07 PM
[youtube=425,350]-Mydu9N0PBw[/youtube]
 :violin

omfg

:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mrbob on October 16, 2008, 10:37:17 PM
It is going to be hilarious watching dirty nthings convince themselves Wii Music is a quality product.

It is already happening.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2008, 10:47:56 PM
It is going to be hilarious watching dirty nthings convince themselves Wii Music is a quality product.

It is already happening.

I'm guessing you haven't been reading the Wii Music threads at GAF then.  Nintards have convinced themselves that it is a "real music game" and has "good music" and is truly something revolutionary. :rofl
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: maxy on October 16, 2008, 11:04:55 PM
Since this is a sales thread

Latest M-Create data

DS Lite 31,914
PSP 23,901
Wii 22,877
Xbox 360 7,763
PS2 6,982
PS3 5,734

 :lol
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 16, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Quote
I will enjoy it too when I get a ton of 30 dollar games in January.

i was stunned to discover $30 is roughly the price of an X360 in HK - i tried to not buy shit, but i failed.

Also - how/why is PES 2009 out already on the PS3 out here? it's not due out for another month right?!


is it on a CD-R? well then
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 16, 2008, 11:18:38 PM
Since this is a sales thread

Latest M-Create data

DS Lite 31,914
PSP 23,901
Wii 22,877
Xbox 360 7,763
PS2 6,982
PS3 5,734

 :lol

Looks to me like the Xboat has docked in Japan for a full month!
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 16, 2008, 11:28:39 PM
This whole shit is fucked, period
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: laesperanzapaz on October 17, 2008, 01:20:21 AM
really, why bother iwth games.  thank god for the internet, i would prolly die of despair without it.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 17, 2008, 01:31:39 AM
now sure, the 360 has outsold the PS3 for five weeks on a row.

but is in it sad that people are pretty proud of the 7k units sold?

xbox is doing horrible in Japan, PS3 on the other hand is performing more horribly (for shame, sony)

i think both side should stfu unless their preferred console has sold 10k - 20k per week or more. (like when IU and ToV debuted)

did you just get internet or something?
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 17, 2008, 01:38:56 AM
Doesnt sporks look at his own videos and see how sad he is? Jesus
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 17, 2008, 01:49:44 AM
Doesnt sporks look at his own videos and see how sad he is? Jesus

He makes Michael Cera look like The Fonz. I watched his Wii Music video. It was so awkward, he just kept talking and talking without really saying anything, I just wanted to reach through the monitor and slap him and say "GET TO THE POINT, MAN!"
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Hollywood on October 17, 2008, 04:03:47 AM
LTD US:

NDS 22.44m
PSP 12.71m
Wii 12.55m
X360 11.21m
PS3 5.50m


Wii continues its dominance and affirmation as the best game console EVER created. PSP is up next to be surpassed, then Nintendo OWNS THE WORLD.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: demi on October 17, 2008, 04:10:21 AM
lol wrestling fans who believe in jesus
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 17, 2008, 06:23:04 AM
It is going to be hilarious watching dirty nthings convince themselves Wii Music is a quality product.

It is already happening.

I'm guessing you haven't been reading the Wii Music threads at GAF then.  Nintards have convinced themselves that it is a "real music game" and has "good music" and is truly something revolutionary. :rofl
Direct quote from sporsk's video: "Jazz theory in motion...........it's like magic"
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 17, 2008, 07:44:39 AM
This month is usually a harbinger for the rest of the year. Which means the 360 is going to bury the PS3 by about 500-800k units and the Wii will just be off the charts. It's sales will only be limited by how many they can make.

Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 17, 2008, 07:48:07 AM
Gotta love those those PS3 fanboys who were citing "trends" now that their console has only sold 150,000 more units this year more than the 360. Adding insult to injury is the 360 besting of the PS3 four weeks in a row in Japan. At least they still have Sonyland aka europe  ::)
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 17, 2008, 09:55:28 AM
At least with the 360, software sales are decent enough to where it is worthwhile to invest money into developing games for it.  PS3 is barely struggling for semi-mediocrity.  LBP won't be the big seller some people are hoping it to be.  I guess there is always GT5 and FFXIII Versus.

This month is usually a harbinger for the rest of the year. Which means the 360 is going to bury the PS3 by about 500-800k units and the Wii will just be off the charts. It's sales will only be limited by how many they can make.



So basically like last holiday.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Tabasco on October 17, 2008, 10:20:08 AM
I still think that the core can support gaming, just not 2 consoles.  MS and Sony are going to have to give us a single next gen console, and let the kiddies and mouth breathers have the Wii2
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: tiesto on October 17, 2008, 10:31:16 AM
christian wrestling fans? :lol

Yup, ever hear of this:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1426365 (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1426365)
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: GilloD on October 17, 2008, 11:08:07 AM
Surprised to see Mercs 2 chart so well.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Mrbob on October 17, 2008, 11:21:13 AM
I guess I must be one of the few people who think 350K is good for the X360?  ???

Need to get the Wii out of your heads when comparing hardware sales...it is in its on stratosphere.  MS will end up carving out a nice big userbase of 25 to 30 million in the USA by the time everything is said and done. 
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: The Innocent X on October 17, 2008, 11:25:00 AM

i don't understand why people keep saying that? i'm not gonna say it'll jump start the PS3's sales, but what's stopping it from getting sold to 30% of the PS3's user base? it's getting the exposure more than any other title... IMO :P

and... IMO this game has "long legs" stickered all over it.

/lbpfag


LBP has had good exposure in the hardcore community. I think that it'll do well, but I can't see it being a crossover hit with the mainstream.

X360 is a little low this month, but it'll still comfortably beat the PS3 over the year. The lead will probably go back up over 6 million in the US.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 17, 2008, 11:44:02 AM
It seems like the HD consoles have tapped their major  hardcore market out, and the people who would be buying these consoles after that market tapped out, buy the Wii.

Yup.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: y2kev on October 17, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
The PS2 did "well" normally though and "took off" once it hit $199. The HD consoles put along/fail and accelerate to "normal" when prices are cut. This gen is going to be like the lost gen.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Bocsius on October 17, 2008, 12:15:12 PM
Maybe there's a huge "wait until reliable reports of Jasper availability" contingent. Doubt it, although I'm a member of that group.

This price drop is clearly not the shot in the arm Microsoft may have expected. This does not look like the type of bounce that lasts. They may have temporarily staved off the slide to complete mediocrity, positioned themselves a bit better for the holidays, but that's about it. Tepid sales will be back in January.

360/PS3 just isn't what consumers want. It's all about the Wii.
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: hyp on October 17, 2008, 12:17:31 PM
wasn't this supposed to be year of the PS3?

in other news, the wii pretty much doesn't exist to me anymore -- i'm through with playing in SD.  :rock

360 sales are terrible too.

i have no time to play games.   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 17, 2008, 01:40:20 PM
Spore more like BOMB am I right?

:violin PC gaming :violin
:piss World of Warcrack :piss2

You have to be kidding.

The biggest EA release since like ever. The next WILL WRIGHT game. And it can't do 1M in the US?

smh @ PC distinguished effete fellows

:violin :violin :violin

I meant the shitty joke you made. You actually thought it was good?

Ah ok... I'm in a silly mood right now so excuse moi lame jokes.

Your French sucks as well.  It should be mes not moi. 
Title: Re: hey doodz it's NPD day.
Post by: Bocsius on October 17, 2008, 01:50:51 PM
Sure is convenient that Borys only needs to learn Russian, though.