SCEE has supplied us with the official statement on the situation regarding LittleBigPlanet…http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/littlebigplanet-release-delayed-in-europe
During the review process prior to the release of LittleBigPlanet, it has been brought to our attention that one of the background music tracks licensed from a record label for use in the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur’an. We have taken immediate action to rectify this and we sincerely apologise for any offence that this may have caused.
We will confirm the new launch date shortly.
We’ll keep you updated with further information as soon as we get it.
UPDATE
We’ve just been informed by SCEE that the delay to release is effective worldwide.
To: Sony Computer Entertainment & Media Molecule
While playing your latest game, "LittleBigPlanet" in the first level of the third world in the game (titled "Swinging Safari":smileywink:, I have noticed something strange in the lyrics of the music track of the level. When I listened carefully, I was surprised to hear some very familiar Arabic words from the Quran. You can listen to part of the track here:
mt14.quickshareit.com/share/p...lip22503c0.wav
The words are:
1- In the 18th second: "كل نفس ذائقة الموت" ("kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: 'Every soul shall have the taste of death').
2- Almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "كل من عليها فان" ("kollo man alaiha fan", literally: 'All that is on earth will perish').
I asked many of my friends online and offline and they heard the exact same thing that I heard easily when I played that part of the track. Certain Arabic hardcore gaming forums are already discussing this, so we decided to take action by emailing you before this spreads to mainstream attention.
We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online patch, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it.
We would also like to mention that this isn't the first time something like this happened in videogames. Nintendo's 1998 hit "Zelda: Ocarina of Time" contained a musical track with islamic phrases, but it was removed in later shipments of the game after Nintendo was contacted by Muslim organizations. Last year, Capcom's "Zack & Wiki" and Activision's "Call of Duty 4" also contained objectionable material offensive to Muslims that was spotted before the release of the final games, and both companies thankfully removed the content.
We hope you act immediately to avoid any confusion and unnecessary controversy, and we thank you for making such an amazing game.
Regards,
yasser
psn id : solid08
It will still hit before Xmas and gather massive sales.
:piss Tieno = pwned.
:rofl This cannot be true :rofl
And the Zelda part? WTF.
As for COD4 containing islamic stuff - uh, wasn't it supposed to?
smh @ A-rabs
People really need to stop sampling whatever public domain sound effects/instrument library that Quran chant comes from. So far it's been documented in Zelda and Kaktou Chojin.
We’ve just been informed by SCEE that the delay to release is effective worldwide.
People really need to stop sampling whatever public domain sound effects/instrument library that Quran chant comes from. So far it's been documented in Zelda and Kaktou Chojin.
just came here to post this...how could anyone possibly think adding Quran verses is a good idea, especially to a high profile game.
Also, the guy who reported the problem is actually a Microsoft spy trying to sabotage the game.
So within 12 hours of hearing about this issue involving a lyric (in Somalian, I believe!), we prepared an automatic day 0 patch and had a new disk image ready; however a decision was made within Sony that the right thing to do for quality and support of people with no on-line was to replace existing disks.
Oh the irony, GAF is talking about hassling the guy who reported that there might be a problem. ( he didn't even complain, just thought that Sony ought to know )
The best way to fight mindless intolerance is ALWAYS with mindless intolerance.. Who's with me?
LOL duckroll locked the GAF thread because "discussing religion is OT." :rofl
It's background music in the game, and apparently not especially easy to make out. Sackboy isnt running around quoting the Qur'an.
I'm getting it to do that now. i'm building a WTC out of pieces of cardboard and crashing a plane in to it.
I'm getting it to do that now. i'm building a WTC out of pieces of cardboard and crashing a plane in to it.
already been done in the beta
and if this game is delayed in NA to Nov 14th, it's pretty much being sent to die.
Jim's reply in that GAF thread made me think of something:QuoteIt's background music in the game, and apparently not especially easy to make out. Sackboy isnt running around quoting the Qur'an.
Can you imagine what will happen if someone makes a LBP level with Sackboy dressed as Muhammad running around spouting quotes from the Qur'anspoiler (click to show/hide)while blowing up other Sackboys?[close]
LBP is ripe for that type of abuse, and delaying it over something offensive to Muslims is bound to cause someone to do it.
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
But you shot them. With guns.
i didn't play it, but i think it had a recreated Meccah level...
still it's the most played game in the ME (hypocrisy at its finest)
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
But you shot them. With guns.
haha, you don't know about the cheat code where you can shoot them with appeasement
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
"there's a crisis SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EAST with some heinous shit being perpetrated by SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EASTERNERS"
i didn't play it, but i think it had a recreated Meccah level...
Its all Himu's fault.:lol wat?spoiler (click to show/hide)inside joke?[close]
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
"there's a crisis SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EAST with some heinous shit being perpetrated by SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EASTERNERS"
Middle Easterners (and Arabic speakers) are not always Muslims. Not saying you are saying that, but I would imagine they got around it by not ever having anyone say "death to america, allah is great"
cod4 had the vaguest muslims ever
"there's a crisis SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EAST with some heinous shit being perpetrated by SOMEWHERE-IN-THE-MIDDLE-EASTERNERS"
Middle Easterners (and Arabic speakers) are not always Muslims. Not saying you are saying that, but I would imagine they got around it by not ever having anyone say "death to america, allah is great"
i know that, but there was an awful lot of winking and smiling in the references so you knew what they were getting at
i don't care, video games don't offend me in any way
I'm getting it to do that now. i'm building a WTC out of pieces of cardboard and crashing a plane in to it.
already been done in the beta
and if this game is delayed in NA to Nov 14th, it's pretty much being sent to die.
now i know y'all hate someone talking about Islamic teachings atm but bear with me:
one of the basics of Islamic teachings is called "الامر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر" which basically means (roughly translated): "Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice"
and it's something that every Muslim should practice.
but here's the interesting part: there are three levels of carrying this over, and has to be done in this order:
1- Prevention of Vice with your "hand": you do this if you have the influence or you're in a position to make call (e.g: a CEO or a government official) =/= violence and burning flags.
now the first level of prevention does not apply to Mr. Yasser, so moves to second level.
2- Prevention of Vice with "tongue": you don't have to power to change stuff with your hand? then voice your inconvenience by voicing you dissatisfaction.
and this is what devout Mr. Yasser has done... but! what if Sony says "no"? then he moves to level 3.
3- Prevention of Vice by "heart": in other words, no one complied? then be dissatisfied on the inside and STFU!!
Long Story Short: Yasser did the right thing as a devout Muslim, Sony has EVERY RIGHT to say no, Yasser becomes one inconvenienced customer and shut the fuck up (or go and complain to the press = another "tonge" to do their part).
in other words: NO ONE SHOULD BLOW ANY FUCKING THING UP. THOSE WHO DO ARE NOT TRUE MUSLIMS, THEY'RE TERRORISTS!! I HATE EVERYONE FEARING US AND TREATING US DIFFERENTLY.
if we don't want to play by the rules that apply to others then we should not play at ALL, let's shut ourselves in our bubble of isolation and let everyone live in piece.
I can wait a week, I'll have Dead Space, Rock Band 2, Bioshock and Eternal Sonata to tide me over until then. :o
Stupid publishers need to spread this crap out throughout the year.
i bet if it was some song that offended christians we'd be playing lbp next week
just to clarify, i don't give a fuck who it offends, but this kind of religious sensitivity (insert giant rolleyes) only seems to apply to select religions
fallout 3 wins, hope it's full of religiously offensive material and stereotypes
just to clarify, i don't give a fuck who it offends, but this kind of religious sensitivity (insert giant rolleyes) only seems to apply to select religions
fallout 3 wins, hope it's full of religiously offensive material and stereotypes
Dic took out a bunch of references to the cross when they brought Sailor Moon over.
Who the fuck cares about a Sony product?
they didn't bother taking that church out of resistance
It was pulled off the shelves in early 2003 for offensive religious content, namely that it had verses from the Quran being chanted as part of the background sound effects the song "Love/Hate Chant" is an example of this controversy. It was later re-released with the offending content removed.
Now I'll feel compelled to create a Sackboy with a bomb in his turban. Good job, Muslims.
The GAF thread is hilarious. The Sfaggotry is off the charts.
If your the same guy who posted that LBP thing, can I get your parents' email? I find your existence offensive and I'd like them to issue a recall.
Now I'll feel compelled to create a Sackboy with a bomb in his turban. Good job, Muslims.
You may be in danger!
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2up63jd.jpg):rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
i don't think the dude that posted this is gonna survive the banhammer
I'm not buying it because the thought of spending my free time in a proprietary level editor makes me want to kill myself. Also Sack Boy.You don't want to play the 60 plus professionally designed levels?
no one should get banned for that, it's hilarious
i've seen much worse shit get a pass over there
pics please :lol (it's blocked in my network)
So it was some words from the holy book that offended Muslims in Call of Duty 4, not...every other part of the game?
*strokes chin*
QuoteIts a fucking week delay why are the manbabies crying over it?
seriously, sfags complaining when people say "the PS3 has no games" are shooting themselves in the foot. The reaction to A WHOLE WEEK delay is incredible and the only logical solution is they have nothing to play right now.
therefore, we conclude: as PS3 fans cannot wait 1 week for 1 game, there are no games on the PS3 worth playing. Therefore, in this instance "the PS3 has no games" is true - another Xboat victory.
(awaits Fist's rage!)
;)
being interested in smash brothers is a profound human failing in and of itself
anyway, delay suits me fine, more time to finish wipeout
they didn't bother taking that church out of resistancewell that was a whole level. this actually offends some muslims (probably not most) and only requires a very small change to one song.
Why didn't someone catch this earlier? ???I think it's because this was a fake "beta" only a month or so before the game released. A muslim didn't even catch a quranic verse until it was too late to fix the game by the originally intended release date. I know that there's a lot of muslim music with quranic verses being sung in them so this may also just be Sony bending too far backwards.
I dont see a reason why anybody should feel bad for Media Molecule.Why would they have any reason to question a song that's been around for so long?
Yes it was. Some English moron at Media Molecule put a song on the game thinking it sounded cool without finding out what the lyrics said. The song offended people. People complained and Sony instead of getting worse press and backlash decided to fix this before it got into consumers hands. It will only take a week to fix. And people pathetically enough are lashning out at religion, because they cant play their shitty "Make your own plataformer" game for a week.
Its completely pathetic. If you wanted anymore proof on how SFags have fallen into the Manbaby Nbot caliber level this gen, the reactions to this "incident" are proof enough. That thread at Gaf is one of the more pathetic things ive seen in quite a while.
Fuck Muslims because i cant play LBP for a week! My world is ending. I dont have more games on my shitty system so i have to lash out!
Fuck. Go Play Saints Row. Go Play Deadspace, go play Fable if you have an X360. Theres a shitload of games to tide you for a week.
Why would they have any reason to question a song that's been around for so long?
i never said any of that
but again, they never would have done this had it been a song offensive to christians, and there's evidence of that in the shrugging off of the complaints about resistance, where an even more public complaint was made about the material
spin it all you want, but it's the truth, and it's a cowardly precedent to set
if you let this go, you will never have a leg to stand on in any future complaints you might have about censorship
Himu costing more people jobs? The anime business wasn't enough for him?
How is this not censorship? :lol
Do you not consider the bleeping out of words on TV censorship because saying "fuck" is generally not part of someone's artistic expression of language?
How is this not censorship? :lol
Do you not consider the bleeping out of words on TV censorship because saying "fuck" is generally not part of someone's artistic expression of language?
Those words were never part of Media Molecules expression or idea. Media Molecules expression of a level generated by them with an African sounding song is still intact.
To me thats different than something like the threat of removal of hatian gangs in GTA Vice City. Or hot coffe from SA
If they knew what the lyrics said they probably wouldnt have chosen it in the first place.
We learnt yesterday that there is a lyric in one of the licensed tracks which some people may find offensive, and which slipped through the usual screening processes
basically they picked a cool sounding song and never cared to find out what it said. The lyrics were irrelevant to their expresion.
a "very small change?"It's really stupid wasting all that money pressing new disks but it's MM's fault for being this extremely sensitive. A patch to just alter or remove the song would have probably allowed the game to still be sold in ME countries but I'm guessing that since this is such a big game for MM, they want to set a good PR example to other publishers.
these things are pressed, shipped, and sitting in store warehouses, however many hundreds of thousands that will now have to be returned and replaced
this is going to cost them a ton of cash
it's not the delay, it's why it was delayed
once you establish a precedent of such public acquiescence, you can't ever go back
forget about manbabies whining that they're not getting to play it it next week, the scarier bunch are the people who think this was in any way, shape, or form "the right thing to do"
smh
If games got delayed a week for every Christian reference in them, JRPGs would probably never get released.
If games got delayed a week for every Christian reference in them, JRPGs would probably never get released.
when you put it that way, christian fundamentalism looks kind of appealing
I am sure the crucifixion of Chu Chu made many christians question just how absurd and distinguished mentally-challenged their religion is.
Instant excuse?
Instant excuse?
I am sure the crucifixion of Chu Chu made many christians question just how absurd and distinguished mentally-challenged their religion is.
that's when i started to doubt christianity, when i played xenogears
that game changed my life
I am sure the crucifixion of Chu Chu made many christians question just how absurd and distinguished mentally-challenged their religion is.
that's when i started to doubt christianity, when i played xenogears
that game changed my life
Joke post? :-\
There is a Gundam head on the inside of the LBP case artwork. :rock