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Title: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 19, 2008, 05:24:34 PM
Lately I've been having various problems while sleeping, well trying to sleep

1. I get dizzy as fuck at night. This started about a month ago, and I didn't think much of it. But just getting up to make a bathroom run can make me dizzy

2. I can barely breath at night. I don't have a cold or anything but I find it hard to breath at night, and sometimes during the day. Like something is blocking 30% of the air coming through my nose, if not more. It carries into the day as well, and I've noticed my sense of smell has greatly reduced recently.

3. I use the bathroom at 7am, like clockwork

Anyone else with odd problems during the night? Maybe it's winter allergies or something because I know I'm healthy
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Greatness Gone on October 19, 2008, 05:27:13 PM
You know that you're healthy, but you get dizzy and have breathing problems. Yeah right.

Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 19, 2008, 05:28:43 PM
Well I had a physical a few weeks ago and my doctor told me it might be allergies. I have a history of headaches so she thinks the dizziness might be connected to that.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 19, 2008, 05:30:47 PM
I never get a full nights sleep.  I always have to wake up at 3 to pee.  No woman will ever want to sleep in the same bed as me.   :'(
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 19, 2008, 05:54:29 PM
Can you actually barely breathe, or are you having trouble while you overbreathe. I've had a lot of history with nocturnal anxiety/panic and this sounds just like it. I found that much of my problem was a sense of something wrong leading to subconcious overbreathing. I also started sleeping on the floor all the time which has solved the other 80% of the problem.

I used to have sudden panics jerk me awake right before sleep, i've woken up 2 hours into sleep feeling like I couldn't feel my legs, floaty, things were unreal-- so I really see where youre coming from.

The crazy thing about chronic hyperventilation is that your muscles will become trained to grab for more air than they need. When you start watching how much you breathe you will notice these muscles constricting and creating a sensation that you are being smothered, when in fact you are not.

Going pee at 7am every day means nothing. If you were going pee at 2, 4, 6 many times a week then you should be worried. Ritual Pee Breaks are normal.

Also, you should qualify dizzy. There's lightheaded blacking out, and there's vertigo. Allergies can bring about vertigo, as much as anxiety can cause it.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 19, 2008, 06:00:18 PM
I dunno, it feels like something is blocking my nostrils, which does cause me to breath harder (overbreath) than I normally would

The panic lapses I have are usually due to me not being able to think, therefore I wind up worrying about stupid shit (did I forget to put my name on the test I took at school, what if I fail it, holy shit did I forget to lock the door, etc).

Dizzy for me=room slowly spinning
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 19, 2008, 06:04:21 PM
k thats vertigo then. I'd look into breathing exercises, and fit in at least a 30 minute walk at least 3 times a week to help burn off anxiety. Also, try and not use the computer 30 minutes for bed, and maybe take a warm shower before bed to get yourself into a natural wanna fukkin sleep state.

Also see your doctor and have them test your lung capacity and your sinuses. Don't mention anxiety to them because they will jump on that fast and latch onto it as your only problem. Let them arrive to that on their own.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 19, 2008, 06:12:02 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. Definitely gonna have my lungs/sinuses checked

I run around campus a couple times a week (breathing out my mouth usually).
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 19, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
thats fine when youre running. Just do yourself a favor and dont get too focused on this unless it IS something, until then it might as well be nothing
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: radioheadrule83 on October 19, 2008, 08:33:08 PM
Like MAF, I used to have these weird panic / anxiety attack things just before sleep. Like my body would suddenly decide "shit! you're not breathing! Wake up wake up!"... very annoying. But you might want to check into sleep apnea... that has such symptoms, and I might be wrong, but I think it can be dangerous.

The solution for me, funnily enough, was sleeping more. I'd been going through a stressful time at work, and I stayed up late at night just immersing myself in other stuff to make my day feel worthwhile. Once I forced myself to get some rest, the symptoms subsided.

My doctor also explained how you can trick your mind into overbreathing as MAF put it... your lungs are already part full with air, and because you're so self-conscious about it, you ask them to pull for more, but the capacity remaining isn't really enough, which reinforces your self-consciousness about it or makes you panic. Thats possible.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 19, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
It might also be some kind of weird gas leak at your house or something.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Brehvolution on October 19, 2008, 08:47:28 PM
Have a couple beers and you'll sleep like a baby.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 19, 2008, 10:00:37 PM
Generally Sleep Apnea has more to do with the following morning, aka heart racing fatigue yadda yadda. Trouble is those symptoms are linked to anxiety as well. Its not a bad idea to look into it, but you wouldn't get anything concrete unless you participated in a sleep study somewhere.

Alcohol is actually a bad idea. If it isnt anxiety you form a dependence, if it IS anxiety the alcohol withdrawl nerve symptoms the following morning or even early early morning will cause anxiety symptoms to spike.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: demi on October 20, 2008, 03:06:19 PM
i have nocturnal problems too. dont you hate it when you wake up and you're like fuck, i just came in my pants again
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 20, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
You are too fat on the inside. Even if you are skinny your organs are like surrounded with fat and lard. Your heart weights probably as much as the one of elephant. Your liver is 85% of fat.

You might get an heart attack even while asleep if you don't change your living habits!

Haha this reads like a Yahoo Answers post.
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 20, 2008, 03:17:17 PM
Borys' post scared me until I remembered that I'm in shape

BUT I have been eating rather poorly lately. I went without fast food for the entire summer which was great. During school sometimes I'm on campus all day and don't feel like walking home, so I'll head to the student center and get Wendys or chinese food or White Castle or whatever; last week I ate out two times. I need to get back on track
Title: Re: Nocturnal problems
Post by: demi on October 20, 2008, 03:18:39 PM
oh no, you ate a hamburger from wendy's, its all over for you