THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: radioheadrule83 on October 23, 2008, 05:36:17 PM
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http://www.wipido.com/video/TCJ8jasMfUH6
01:10 - taking photos and playing with them. Realtime smudging, paint-bucket style colour alteration (no idea how this works, but it looks cool!), morphing between two photos, facial / smile tracking, Wii Photo editor style stamps and doodling, kaladescope effects, built in borders, zooming, slideshow mode.
02:20 - AAC music player, realtime frequency / pitch / speed shifting,
03:18 - Voice recording / dictaphone type functionality, with effects applied afterwards
03:30 - DSware shop, web browser (much faster and smoother than the old boxed Opera Browser), Nintendo points
03:35 - Flickbook animations. I can imagine what kind of horrors are going to be created with this :hyper
03:57 - DS cards can now be removed / inserted while the power is on and automatically detected in the menu, like the Wii Disc channel.
04:05 - Pictochat in colour.
Ends showing the empty channel slots.
Its a shame if the camera really is only 0.3MP and its a shame it doesn't have a flash. But daylight 640x480 pictures would certainly be fine on those screens and when transfered to the Wii (which is 480p at best)... and you can see from that demo, that its capable of processing camera data nice and fast. The extra RAM must be a big help, hopefully DSware games take advantage the way the built in games do!
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01:10 - taking photos and playing with them. Realtime smudging, paint-bucket style colour alteration (no idea how this works, but it looks cool!), morphing between two photos, facial / smile tracking, Wii Photo editor style stamps and doodling, kaladescope effects, built in borders, zooming, slideshow mode.
02:20 - AAC music player, realtime frequency / pitch / speed shifting,
03:30 - DSware shop, web browser (much faster and smoother than the old boxed Opera Browser), Nintendo points
03:57 - DS cards can now be removed / inserted while the power is on and automatically detected in the menu, like the Wii Disc channel.
These are pretty cool updates that I wouldn't mind having on my DS, but I'm not sure it's really worth the money to upgrade from the Lite. Technically it's a much bigger jump in functionality than the Phat-Lite transition (which was purely cosmetic), but it's mostly fluff aimed at the mobile phone culture in Japan.
Still, the matte black one is pretty awesome. I wouldn't mind having it, if only for the bigger screens and shop.
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If they haven't somehow blocked R4s from running on this thing, I'm trading up!
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(http://www.downunderpilotshop.co.nz/images/D/d-1006-821.pjpeg)
Where do the games go, Nintendo?
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[img]http://www.downunderpilotshop.co.nz/images/D/d-1006-821.pjpeg[img]
Where do the games go, Nintendo?
In a slot on the back of the handheld. ???
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Is that next to the cheese grater and ice machine?
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Nintendo continuing to support non-games confirmed
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Is that next to the cheese grater and ice machine?
You sound like some 60-year-old comic strip writer prattling about "check out my 'I-Phone', Mr. B, it does everything, derp i don't know if it makes phone calls AUUUGH!"
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I guess my nephews and nieces would love all this, these are features normally in "grown up" toys, but will be fun for them to play with.
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You sound like some 60-year-old comic strip writer prattling about "check out my 'I-Phone', Mr. B, it does everything, derp i don't know if it makes phone calls AUUUGH!"
(http://joshreads.com/images/08/10/i081022hnj.gif)
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Where do the games go, Nintendo?
On the Million Sellers list. :bow2
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Can it send the email? How about connecting to the google? Where is the usb slot? Do I have to buy a usb card for it?
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(http://joshreads.com/images/08/10/i081022hnj.gif)
No, Herb & Jamaal would say:
"Look at my new portable telephone! It's the new expensive model that people have been discussing. It can connect to content on online networks, capture photographs, display both still and motion pictures, and work as a daily planning tool to personally assist me in daily tasks."
"But can you talk to other people using a phone network?"
"I have not yet discovered that feature, as the picture-based interface of the telephone is too complicated."
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Sorry kids, I dont want gimmicks, there's a reason I dont own a shitty fuck Wii
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I'll probably buy it because I collect these things (handheld gaming devices), but the features they implemented don't really make up for the ugly style it has now and (seemingly) not fixing the poor d-pad. The problem with all these features is that none of them serve any practical purpose. Well, I guess the web browser could be good, but for me it doesn't serve much of a purpose considering I have an iPod Touch.
And Nintendo really does have amazing supporters
The point of the camera isn't to be a photographer, but to use and have fun with.
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I'll probably buy it because these things, but the features they implemented don't really make up for the ugly style it has now and (seemingly) not fixing the poor d-pad. The problem with all these features is that none of them serve any practical purpose. Well, I guess the web browser could be good, but for me it doesn't serve much of a purpose considering I have an iPod Touch.
And Nintendo really does have amazing supporters
The point of the camera isn't to be a photographer, but to use and have fun with.
Title: "The DSi is really cool"
Body: "It's just fun. Stop hating. Here are some 1UP vids of me taking pictures of myself playing Wii Music."
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Dont get me wrong, I fucking ADORE my DS Lite, and would defend its library.
But this kind of upgrade puts into play the same mentality that has driven the Wii library into the ground. Remember the obnoxious mandate to implement stylus bullshit. That turned out great. Now imagine all the bullshit game mechanics based around shitty fucking camera shit and aww goddamnit I hate Nintendo sometimes.
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haha okay, the morphing and photo editing shit looks neat but no way is it going to be that robust IRL/
Also, God dammit, pictochat needs to be in more games.
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.3 megapixels?!!?!?!
Is that true?
:rofl :rofl
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.3 Megapixel? That's like... a thumbnail
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[nintard] less megapixels = more fun! [/nintard]
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0.3 MP for the camera facing you. The one on the outer shell is 3.0 MP, I believe.
And I don't see Crushed defending the camera anywhere in this thread. Get some better glasses, Borys.
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0.3MP would yield a picture this size
(http://www.rock36photography.com/images/backgrounds/eagle_640_480.jpg)
Big thumbnail! :p Obviously you couldn't take a picture of that quality on the DSi, but its probably enough for kids to play about with, and it'd look fine at 100% zoom on the Wii. Although of course, I'm not saying that going 0.3MP isn't exceedingly cheap and nasty of Nintendo. Plenty of sub £150 phones have 3-5MP cameras these days, the least they could have done was put 0.3MP on the inside, and 3MP minimum on the outside. Thats what a lot of phone manufacturers are doing now. A low quality camera on the face, for video calls, and the other being a proper camera. The pixel count isn't gonna be the real killer on image quality anyway, its going to be the lack of a xenon flash in low light. As soon as the twilight hours approach, pictures are gonna get noisy as fuck, as well as only being 640x480.
I wouldn't buy one of these new, but I'm willing to trade my current DS in towards it.
0.3 MP for the camera facing you. The one on the outer shell is 3.0 MP, I believe.
And I don't see Crushed defending the camera anywhere in this thread. Get some better glasses, Borys.
That would make sense. Someone needs to translate that Iwata Asks thing and see what he really says.
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0.3MP would yield a picture this size
(http://www.rock36photography.com/images/backgrounds/eagle_640_480.jpg)
Big thumbnail! :p Obviously you couldn't take a picture of that quality on the DSi, but its probably enough for kids to play about with, and it'd look fine at 100% zoom on the Wii. Although of course, I'm not saying that going 0.3MP isn't exceedingly cheap and nasty of Nintendo. Plenty of sub £150 phones have 3-5MP cameras these days, the least they could have done was put 0.3MP on the inside, and 3MP minimum on the outside. Thats what a lot of phone manufacturers are doing now. A low quality camera on the face, for video calls, and the other being a proper camera. The pixel count isn't gonna be the real killer on image quality anyway, its going to be the lack of a xenon flash in low light. As soon as the twilight hours approach, pictures are gonna get noisy as fuck, as well as only being 640x480.
I wouldn't buy one of these new, but I'm willing to trade my current DS in towards it.
0.3 MP for the camera facing you. The one on the outer shell is 3.0 MP, I believe.
And I don't see Crushed defending the camera anywhere in this thread. Get some better glasses, Borys.
That would make sense. Someone needs to translate that Iwata Asks thing and see what he really says.
That's actually not that bad. Its a good res for posting shots on the web.
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no BC = no sale
gimmick cam = lol
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Anyone who plans to use the camera to take any serious pictures is an idiot. It's just a nice diversion, maybe some games will use it like the old Gameboy Camera, but I highly, highly doubt any games will require it (unless it's some DSware minigame).
I get the feeling that this is targeted towards girls that like purikura here, and if it has that type of customization built in, it'll probably be really popular. I doubt the American market cares as much, but who knows, who cares.
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Dont get me wrong, I fucking ADORE my DS Lite, and would defend its library.
But this kind of upgrade puts into play the same mentality that has driven the Wii library into the ground. Remember the obnoxious mandate to implement stylus bullshit. That turned out great. Now imagine all the bullshit game mechanics based around shitty fucking camera shit and aww goddamnit I hate Nintendo sometimes.
They can't do this since regular DS/Lites don't have the camera. They won't split their usebase like that, so I doubt anything major will ever come out. It's like the old stupid Gameboy Camera.
There already is a DS camera you can get now, BTW. It comes with Face Training. Really all this DSi is to me is the Face Training camera, Opera Browser, and Play-Yan all in one. Yay. I want one anyway though.
It would not surprise me if they release something for the DS/Lite to access DS Ware, too.
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Hey look, actual DSi Ware games other than clocks and calculators. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340659)
- Art Style puzzle games: DSi Ware 500 Points x 6 titles
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/jrgaf/DSiWare1.jpg)
- Minigames from Made in Wario on GBA, split out and sold separately: DSi Ware 200 points
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/jrgaf/DSiWare2.jpg)
:bow DSi Ware :bow2
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YOU MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES! DEVS GET THE DAY OFF! Wait, this kinda shit sucks.
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i thought the games that came with game boy camera (yes i owned one) were pretty good they should have stolen/remade those.
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DSi ware stuff is actually cool. It already butt fucks the garbage on Wiiware.
Art Style is also the name of the bit generation remakes for Wiiware, right? hopefully that expands on the DS. Made in Ore actually seems cool.
Is there any confirmation yet that flash cards work?
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Hopefully by the time it does get released in America they will have CFW running on it or something.
Made in Ore still sounds cool, but damn the trickery to make DSi ware seem interesting by associating it is just. Art style is still awesome and I can only hope more bit generation style games come to it.
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Made in Ore is not DSi Ware, it's a regular DS game. Utsusu! Made in Wario is DSi Ware though.
i no reed gud :duh
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Just came out in Japan, photos from Watch Impress and IGN:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2008/1101/nintendo.htm
http://media.ds.ign.com/articles/926/926269/imgs_1.html
HOLY FUCK FINALLY @ the volume buttons. The sliders on the Phat and Lite were so finicky.
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CycloDS - Failed
G6 DS Real - Failed
M3 DS Real - Failed
Supercard DS One - Failed
iTouch DS - Failed
FCard - Failed
NCard - Failed
M3 DS Simply - Failed
U2DS - Failed
R4DS - Failed
EZ Flash V - Failed
MASSIVE FAIL.
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Not unexpected about the pirate cards, but I'm sure someone will find a way around it. Meanwhile I have plenty of ds games I didn't sell off I can play anyway. Picked up rhythm tengoku gold too so I guess they got a sale out of me. :P
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Impressions if you care-
Picked up a black DSi this afternoon and have only had a small amount of time to mess around with it. (Can't comment on lines and such because I was lucky enough to get a reserve ticket from an awesome guy (:bow Dcharlie :bow2), and just walked into the store, paid, and left.)
Right off the bat, the most noticeable differences for me are:
-The sound quality has been improved. The speakers are much LOUDER at the maximum setting. I ran both the same game in both DSi and the DS Lite at the same time, and I could barely hear the Lite's compared to the DSi's superior speakers.
-The screens are only a little better. It's pretty much just because they are a bit bigger on the DSi, and it helps, but it's not a huge difference to me.
-The DSi feels better in your hands than the DS Lite does. It is more comfortable to hold, and the raised L and R buttons feel MUCH better. The d-pad and face buttons don't stick out as much as the Lite's, and feel a bit "clickier" in comparison. I need to try out something like Bleach DS 2nd and see how the d-pad really fares.
-Volume BUTTONS! This is much better than the slider.
-The power button is now at the bottom left of the DSi face. You tap it once to go back to the new DSi menu screen (It has a Wii-like interface complete with background sounds), hold it to turn the unit off.
-The matte finish feels very different from the glossy, Apple-like DS Lite. I am not sure if I like this better or not over the Lite.
-The unit is a bit thinner than the DS Lite, but also a bit longer.
-The AC adapter is slightly larger than the previous model DS's, and will not work with previous models. Nor will the older DS ACs work with the DSi.
-For those who make use of certain cards for homebrew and such, they do not work.
Also a small warning to potential importers: THERE ARE NO ENGLISH MENU OPTION SETTINGS. This is just like the Wii and further proof that the DS Stores are going to be separated by region.
Haven't messed with the other stuff like the camera yet; I'm sure it will get some laughs but it's just a novelty to me.
EDIT- Messed with the camera. Yeah, you can do some goofy stuff with it. My wife liked it for a few minutes. Yay. I am sure if I were a teenage Japanese girl I'd love it, but whatever. It's a worse camera than the one on my iPhone, lolz. Can't comment on the internet browser since you have to download it first and I need to get wi-fi working on it. Plus I don't really care.
Overall it doesn't feel like a huge leap to me like the DS Lite was over the DS; part of me wonders if they really released this to try and combat the piracy issue. But I am a sucker for new tech so I had to get one. I wouldn't recommend importing it unless you also have a Japanese Wii and buy stuff from the J-store.
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nice impressions - how did the tantanmen go down? :D
Oh, did my keitai mail not get through? Yeah, it was great! The side-dishes we had were great too. If we meet up again let me give you the stamp card.
We did the all-you-can-eat lunch buffet at Shakey's today, too. Found a store that sells big sizes so my fat ass was able to buy some new shirts and pants with no problems. Spent like 3man there. :o
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did you get him to jerk you off, DCharlie? i bet lyte has those cute fat people hands that are so stubby.
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Not feeling too hot tonight anyways. Went back early to rest up; I think it was getting no sleep thursday night and then having to catch a 6am train, five hours to Tokyo, then lots of walking around with a heavy backpack and coat I didn't need that did it... :'(
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did you get him to jerk you off, DCharlie? i bet lyte has those cute fat people hands that are so stubby.
Oh, he didn't even have to ask. :-*
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make an unboxing vid. i love unboxing vids.
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make an unboxing vid. i love unboxing vids.
:yuck
This is the kind of thing I want to make parody videos out of. Dunno if I have the skills to pull that off though.
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You gotta make videos of you showing off the battery life and answering the questions that we ask!
Oh well, guess I'll wait for the American one and import that, hopefully it won't be too expensive.
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You gotta make videos of you showing off the battery life and answering the questions that we ask!
:lol It's sad because you know there will be like 50 videos up on Youtube soon doing just that, possibly as multi-part SERIES.
Oh well, guess I'll wait for the American one and import that, hopefully it won't be too expensive.
You can check mine out and see if you think it's really worth it. I bet the "homebrew" will switch to using the SD card slot now.
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upgradable firmware?
i need WPA support, etc...
No upgradable firmware via wifi was DS's biggest issue IMO.
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make an unboxing vid. i love unboxing vids.
<3
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upgradable firmware?
i need WPA support, etc...
No upgradable firmware via wifi was DS's biggest issue IMO.
Amen. WEP makes me feel like my router is so exposed. I never played my DSL at home because I didn't want to downgrade my protection being in an apt complex and all. WPA 32 support (and the SD slot) would be enough to make me upgrade.
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are there any actual online games for the ds that don't suck?
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are there any actual online games for the ds that don't suck?
I would say Tetris or Panel De Pon but you can play those elsewhere...
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Mario Kart DS was fun until it was plagued by snakers and cheaters. Metroid Hunters was also somewhat fun for being a quake clone. And despite the lag, the Bleach fighting games were fun online.
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(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/sp0rsk/HNI_0049.jpg)
hardware of the year
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I'm glad the buttons/d-pad are better. I'll probably go back and play Contra 4 without having to battle with the shitty diagonals on the d-pad.
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:piss
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Might be interested in the dsware store if they start a VC like service for GB/GBC/GBA games.
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are there any actual online games for the ds that don't suck?
Tetris and Mario Kart (which does actually suck online but it's mario kart)
But actually, it's the principality of the thing, smokey. It's an online device, there should be support for non-compromised security.
There's principalities involved :-*
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I will probably get a DSi. I still play with my crusty 3 year old DS phat, never upgraded to a lite. And better speakers + mp3 player with pitch shift :bow awesome. I can chop and screw Mystikal songs on the go!
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There are no dual touch screens. Only the bottom one is touch and both are .25 inches bigger (which is apparently huge if you wear Nintendo PJs). There are two cameras if that's what you meant.
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how many moon bucks is the DSi?
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So has anyone established whether or not the D-pad still sucks dick?
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according to sp0rks it's supposed to be better, but his impressions on things are usually wrong, so wait for multiple people to say.
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someone pls answer my question, I cant use google
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according to sp0rks it's supposed to be better, but his impressions on things are usually wrong, so wait for multiple people to say.
he's a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, apparently he'll fuck anything as long as its japanese
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Read my impressions on the first page, SMH I already answered stuff about the DSi. It is not a huge leap over the Lite and camera/gimmicky shit aside the biggest differences are the better sound and shoulder buttons. The bigger screen is nice but not really a huge difference, although you can make it even brighter than the Lite.
someone pls answer my question, I cant use google
About 18,900 or around $190 U.S.
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