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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Himu on October 27, 2008, 04:31:16 PM

Title: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2008, 04:31:16 PM: This is like choosing which of your kids you like more I bet. :'(

I'm still not sure which I like more, but they both compliment each other so well...
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 27, 2008, 04:33:11 PM: not really hard at all for me.
Alien > Aliens
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 27, 2008, 04:34:24 PM: In b4 TVC

Both are classics but they're very different films. I prefer the Gothic horror of the first one over the action of the second, mainly because the first scared the shit out of me
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 27, 2008, 04:38:28 PM: I'll give a slight edge to Aliens, just because of how awesome Private Hudson is. They're both so good, though.

But if you asked me again tomorrow, I might have a different response.
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Post by: Draft on October 27, 2008, 04:39:23 PM: Aliens, easily.
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Post by: Himu on October 27, 2008, 04:44:28 PM: I'll probably go with aliens
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Post by: drew on October 27, 2008, 04:44:48 PM: (http://www.dvdexploder.com/Alien-front.jpg)

classic

I haven't seen it in years though, I need to go out and buy the the DVD.

EDIT: himumulu mad because my post cockblocked his. hate the game not the player baby!
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Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2008, 04:48:52 PM: It's hard for me to choose because they both have so many memorable moments.

Alien:

-Alien popping out of dude's stomach
-crazy android with semen coming out of his body
-Mother
-the final section where Ripley's alone with Jones and dealing with the self destruct shit on the ship
-the last stand in the shuttle

and so much more

Aliens:

- Stupid family gets owned, makes me lol every time
- more funny dialogue in general
- the squad getting owned
- Vasquerez (sp)
- the medical room where Newt and Ripley fight off a group of symbiote Aliens
- like, the entirety of the second half
- mecha Ripley

In the end I probably gravitate more towards Aliens but that's not because it's better than Alien either since they're both classics. I guess I like Aliens more because the cast, the dialogue, the story...it just clicks with me more.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 27, 2008, 05:07:44 PM: :duh
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Post by: Tauntaun on October 27, 2008, 05:08:19 PM: They're both awesome, two different types of movies though so I can't decide. :gun
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Post by: Eric P on October 27, 2008, 07:28:15 PM: alien.

period.

aliens on a big screen is fuck awesome though.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Greatness Gone on October 27, 2008, 07:39:55 PM: Aliens.
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Post by: Rman on October 27, 2008, 07:43:11 PM: Has there been any word on a bluray release of these films? The rest suck. I would jump on that quick.

I would agree with Tauntaun, both movies very different. It's hard to compare.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Akala on October 27, 2008, 08:46:20 PM: Alien is the better movie, but I like Aliens more.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 27, 2008, 08:55:40 PM: Aladdin.

alien
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bildi on October 27, 2008, 09:01:56 PM: I choose AVP. :dur
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 27, 2008, 09:03:11 PM: Quote from: Bildi on October 27, 2008, 09:01:56 PM
I choose AVP. :dur

:wag
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: EvilBoris on October 27, 2008, 09:55:06 PM: loved that remote sentry scene in Aliens. best thing Cameron has ever done... aside from the mall meetup between T1000 and Terminator.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 27, 2008, 10:08:26 PM: alien winning by a landslide

looks like himumulu lost again
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: muckhole on October 28, 2008, 02:56:30 AM: Where's the Alien 3 love? Penal colony with no weapons. :bow2
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 28, 2008, 03:00:41 AM: Quote from: muckhole on October 28, 2008, 02:56:30 AM
Where's the Alien 3 love? Penal colony with no weapons. :bow2

leper this filth
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Vizzys on October 28, 2008, 03:01:30 AM: Quote from: Drewsy on October 28, 2008, 03:00:41 AM
Quote from: muckhole on October 28, 2008, 02:56:30 AM
Where's the Alien 3 love? Penal colony with no weapons. :bow2

leper this filth

second this notion
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Post by: muckhole on October 28, 2008, 03:01:38 AM: But no guns!
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Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2008, 03:32:37 AM: I like Alien 3 :(
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 28, 2008, 03:48:01 AM: Alien 3 is good

not Alien or Aliens good

but not Godfather Part III or Spider-Man 3 bad
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Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2008, 03:51:50 AM: It's definitely a disappointment, what with the tease that Alien 3 would take place on earth and all, but judged on its own merits, I think it's a decent genre flick. It's just dripping with atmosphere.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: TVC15 on October 28, 2008, 05:07:54 AM: It's clearly not in the same league because it is trying to do more of an Alien movie than an Aliens one. More tension-based than action-based. I wouldn't say Aliens 3 is the better film, but it's the sort of film I'd prefer over action flicks.

This is what makes the Alien vs. Aliens comparisons dumb. They are different genres.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 28, 2008, 09:10:30 AM: Ladies and Gentleman, I give you...

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Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2008, 09:14:34 AM: wall of alien semen
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 28, 2008, 09:18:47 AM: carry on
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2008, 09:46:04 AM: Bumping it to page 2 anyways

bump
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 28, 2008, 09:56:29 AM: crisis averted!
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bloodwake on October 28, 2008, 11:07:00 AM: Alien, definitely.

Nothing beats how damn scary that movie still is.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM: I dont know why there is a comparison. Compare Alien to Alien 3, or Aliens to Alien 4
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 28, 2008, 12:41:35 PM: Same franchise. Comparison is inevitable.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bloodwake on October 28, 2008, 01:02:39 PM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
I dont know why there is a comparison. Compare Alien to Alien 3, or Aliens to Alien 4

It's too hard of a choice between the two anyways.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2008, 01:12:09 PM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on October 28, 2008, 01:07:53 PM
The first two Alien films are so much better than everything else that has been done with the franchise that the only logical comparison that can be made is with the first two.

pretty much.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2008, 04:56:27 PM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on October 28, 2008, 01:23:05 PM
As a side note, I would love to see what a good director could do with the Alien franchise. I know Cameron and Scott aren't interested in coming back to it, but I'm sure there's someone else out there who could make an awesome Alien film. It might have been easier if AVP1&2 had never happened, but they could always just disavow those films. Zach Snyder might be able to do something decent, but I feel he might dumb it down too much. Are there any modern directors who combine great action chops with a command of suspense, atmosphere and a real cerebral quality of cinema?

Danny Boyle, maybe. Well, as long as someone else does the last third of the movie.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: drew on October 29, 2008, 12:21:41 AM: I stopped watching WALL OF ALIEN at video 8. at this point it's getting REALLY good and i'm spoiling it all by watching it on a shitty youtube size box.

also I honestly don't remember 95% of this movie since i saw it when i was so young. watching it in 2008 is like watching a new movie.

which is fucking awesome!

I also have no memory of the cast besides Ripley. I love the black dude :mrt
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: CaptainCommando on October 29, 2008, 02:38:48 AM: The films go downhill in chronological order - but the first one was so awesome that they don't hit 'bad' until Resurrection.

Also, hi.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bildi on October 29, 2008, 02:52:50 AM: And then the films got insanely awesome again with Alien Vs Predator.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 29, 2008, 03:09:40 AM: why did you just type up several paragraphs for AvP whyyyyy

At least AvP2 was rated R and had a badass Predator that killed a bunch of people, but it also sucked.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bildi on October 29, 2008, 03:21:33 AM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on October 29, 2008, 03:06:20 AM
I started watching Alien vs. Predator last night, and in my opinion, it was anything but awesome. I only got about halfway through, so maybe it will get awesome in the second half, but what I saw was worse than a Michael Bay film.

In fairness, nothing - nothing - is as bad as a Michael Bay film. To be worse than Transformers, the Predators would show up an hour in, and the Aliens would show up half an hour before the end, they'd fight for the last 15 minutes and it'd be over. Credit where credit is due - people want to see Aliens vs Predators, and that's what they do.

I think your expectations were too high. You have to go in expecting something on the level of Transformers, Titanic or Spiderman. Then you might get a tiny bit of entertainment.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Bildi on October 29, 2008, 07:34:09 AM: The film is extremely ordinary I agree, but I give them an A for effort. I like that they used lots of miniatures and stuff, and minimal CG in order to try to stay true to the originals. Listening to the commentary is pretty interesting, really much more interesting than the film itself.
Title: Re: Alien vs Aliens
Post by: Tauntaun on October 29, 2008, 09:44:11 AM: Quote from: dcharlie on October 29, 2008, 08:16:33 AM
A vs P are terrible. The second film has hints of potential but still pisses in the mouth of the franchies.

Yeah the only good thing about AvP2 is all the people dying. I was laughing when

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