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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 05:43:16 PM

Title: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 05:43:16 PM
Today is the last day you can donate money and still affect the election.

I will match EB donations on this up to $250 until 8 PM PST tonight. Details in this post (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26136.msg683531#msg683531).

Update: $250 matched! You guys are amazing. :hump I matched your donations, and rich guys matched both our donations, so this is a total of $1000 for No on 8!

Matched: $250/$250
Debaser: $50
TVC 15: $50
Genghis Cohen: $20
Miss Cohen: $20
BlackMage: $10
Jiji: $20
t exp: $25
Professor Prole: $50
arde0: $5/$20

Additional donations: $285
arde0: $15/$20
Akala: $10
distantmantra: $10
Mandark: $250

Latest polling has No on 8 up by 5, 49-44. But Yes is up by 6 in early voting, 50-44. This means No on 8's survival is entirely dependent on how many people get out there and vote to kill it on Election Day. Obama's up 22 points in California, and Obama supporters oppose 8 by 2-to-1. But it's still way too close for comfort, and on-the-ground advertising over the weekend is going to be critical in killing this hateful proposition.

No on 8 released a new ad today starring Samuel L. Jackson telling people to stop being such bigotted-ass motherfuckers.

[youtube=425,350]Oj-0xMrsyxE[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-0xMrsyxE

Now, I don't know about you, but I have had it with these motherfucking Mormons in my motherfucking state!

They need $1.5 million to get this ad on the air over the weekend. Even better, a lot of Silicon Valley entrepeneurs are doing donation matching through tonight. That means your dollar goes twice as far. But you have to donate NOW.

Go here and donate now:

http://www.noonprop8.com/history

Thank you for your support. Seriously.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: BlackMage on October 31, 2008, 05:44:18 PM
i'm already voting no on this what more do you want from me? oh $20 dollars? nah man i just bought some pizza. p... please don't ignore me again.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 05:46:12 PM
i'm already voting no on this what more do you want from me? oh $20 dollars? nah man i just bought some pizza. p... please don't ignore me again.

I don't even know why I had you on ignore, man. I added you like a year ago and was just too lazy to ever go remove it. I always clicked on and read all your posts. :interracial

People, if you can't donate $20, donate $10 or even $5 ... every cent counts. KILL THIS PROPOSITION WITH FIRE.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: BlackMage on October 31, 2008, 05:47:42 PM
fine ill give them some money. it would've prolly gone to obama anyway and he doesnt need anymore.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 31, 2008, 05:51:11 PM
I don't want homo marriage, sorry
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on October 31, 2008, 05:51:27 PM
I need that $20 to buy Gears 2 this week, sorry
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 05:52:39 PM
Actually, I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is.

I'll match EB donations on this up to $250 until 8 PM PST tonight.

PM me the Payment Information section of your confirmation e-mail after you make a donation:

Code: [Select]
Payment Information:
================================
Transaction ID: 12345678

etc. You can leave off your real name, I just want to get the formatting from you to make sure I'm matching real donations. ;)

So if you donate $20, I'll donate $20, and a Silicon Valley entrepeneur will donate $20. So you're really donating $60. THIS IS AN AMAZING OFFER. DONATE, YOU GAYBOS.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Debaser on October 31, 2008, 05:56:01 PM
I just put in $50, so that's two and a half of us covered.

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the other one and a half of you had better STILL DONATE
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Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Bloodwake on October 31, 2008, 05:56:53 PM
I would if:

1. I had money
2. I lived in CA.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: demi on October 31, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
I just put in $50, so that's two and a half of us covered.

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the other one and a half of you had better STILL DONATE
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Awesome thanks man, phew it feels good to do something right.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Debaser on October 31, 2008, 05:57:32 PM
I would if:

2. I lived in CA.

This, just so you know, is NOT STOPPING people from donating to Yes on 8. It's not an excuse.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: TVC15 on October 31, 2008, 05:57:52 PM
I just donated 50, negrodamus.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 05:59:17 PM
I would if:

1. I had money
2. I lived in CA.

Yeah, like 40% of the Yes on 8 advertising is coming from Utah. (And 80% of the Yes on 8 advertising is coming from Mormons.)
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: TVC15 on October 31, 2008, 06:01:48 PM
I would donate even more money if it would go towards a movie where Samuel L. Jackson just shot mormons for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:02:37 PM
Okay, I donated another $100 on top of the $75 I've already given to No on 8. Mad props to Debaser and TVC15 for their generosity. But that doesn't mean I'm letting the rest of you closeted sphincternauts off the hook. DONATE.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2008, 06:03:18 PM
Donated $25.

That is $75 total from me so cigarillos in CA can get married.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: BlackMage on October 31, 2008, 06:03:40 PM
I did what i could!!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: TVC15 on October 31, 2008, 06:04:06 PM
I think the prize for this should be that the person that donates the most gets to gay marry Synthesizer Patel.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:05:21 PM
thanks BlackMage, you rock! :hump

I still don't know how much Cohen donated.

I just upped my donation matching to $250, so that's an extra $150 you queefophobes can fleece me for.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:07:38 PM
I donated 20$ and my wife will do the same

awesome, it's really brave of you two to risk the total destruction of your marriage by allowing gays to marry
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 31, 2008, 06:08:30 PM
Sorry, Patel, but I have to save some change for Spearmint Rhino.  
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2008, 06:11:29 PM
Compile a total of the donations you are matching, plz.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: jiji on October 31, 2008, 06:11:48 PM
Just donated $20.  That's money coming from Utah that's NOT in favor of 8.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:14:10 PM
Compile a total of the donations you are matching, plz.

updated OP
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2008, 06:15:16 PM
I stated a few posts up that I just ponied up another $25
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:16:18 PM
I stated a few posts up that I just ponied up another $25

thanks! updated
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2008, 06:16:33 PM
donated $50!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Eric P on October 31, 2008, 06:16:56 PM
i'm sorry but i cannot afford to donate
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:17:15 PM
donated $50!

Only on EB does price matching go so awry so fast. ;_;

No worries, Eric - we know your situation.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Bloodwake on October 31, 2008, 06:18:18 PM
I would still give money, but at the moment:

1. I have $15 dollars
2. It's in cash, not on a debit card
3. That's all I'm getting until the Monday after the election.

So, while I really wish I COULD give money, I can't. Like, literally. It's impossible for me to give money right now at 6 PM EST.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Eric P on October 31, 2008, 06:18:52 PM
to make amends, i will have sex with a guy this weekend

i'm certain if i explain the situation to my girlfriend, she won't mind
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: huckleberry on October 31, 2008, 06:19:32 PM
Just donated $20.  Would give more but things have been tight lately.

I really hope you fuckers out in California defeat this shit......


Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2008, 06:22:37 PM
my only stipulation is that california guarantee that all gay marriages and the subsequent reception orgies are broadcast on fox, tnn, and tbn during prime-time
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on October 31, 2008, 06:23:23 PM
to make amends, i will have sex with a guy this weekend

i'm certain if i explain the situation to my girlfriend, she won't mind

hey baby
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: T234 on October 31, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
After my accident this morning, I have no money. :(
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Akala on October 31, 2008, 06:35:30 PM
I matched Blackmage.

Even from the deep south, I support your libertine Mecca.  :-*
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: BlackMage on October 31, 2008, 06:37:56 PM
I matched Blackmage.

Even from the deep south, I support your libertine Mecca.  :-*

whew. thanks. was starting to feel cheap.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Akala on October 31, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
I matched Blackmage.

Even from the deep south, I support your libertine Mecca.  :-*

whew. thanks. was starting to feel cheap.

*daps*
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 06:58:42 PM
Whew.

Thanks a ton, everyone! I'm $275 "in the hole" :-* to No on 8, but I feel really good about it. This impromptu fundraiser has been a blast.

If you haven't donated already, please do so! Your donation will still be matched by rich dudes with "more in their pockets" :-* than me. But, as the vicar said to the choirboy, I'm spent.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Oblivion on October 31, 2008, 07:02:03 PM
UR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!


Besides, with the oncoming depression, I'd rather not waste valuable monies on helping depraved, godless heathens earn the same entitlements as us normals. Sorry, Greatness Gone.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 07:06:30 PM
Actually, I just realized...I matched your donations, but the entrepeneur is going to match both of our donations. So really, we just raised $1000 for No on 8! Woo!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 31, 2008, 07:20:03 PM
I'll still donate $10 even though I'm late for the matching.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on October 31, 2008, 07:22:56 PM
And in the end Yes on 8 was passed and Synthesizer Patel walked away $250 in the hole
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 31, 2008, 07:27:17 PM
EB: Fightin' the good fight.
Demi: Not so much.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on October 31, 2008, 07:28:45 PM
I vote No from my heart, and that is what matters most.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 07:32:05 PM
I vote No from my heart, and that is what matters most.

    Vote "No" on Proposition 8!
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Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Mandark on October 31, 2008, 07:40:22 PM
As a kid and a teen I went to a summer camp that was run by three Mormon brothers.  They were great guys and it was some of the best times of a lackluster adolescence.

I'm a little glad I've fallen out of contact with them, cause I'm afraid of finding out what they think about these shenanigans.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Eric P on October 31, 2008, 07:41:38 PM
3 mormons 1 camp?

sounds hot
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: brawndolicious on October 31, 2008, 08:53:04 PM
By today, you mean until midnight?  I have like $4 in my account but I just deposited a check right now.  Isn't it going to be a blowout against it anyways?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 31, 2008, 08:59:00 PM
No, it's extremely close, and every dollar and vote counts.

Mandark just donated $250.00, y'all got pwned.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 31, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
I've donated like $200 to No on 8 over the last month and a half, but I'm broke as a joke until I get some checks in around the 5th.  :(
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: xnikki118x on October 31, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
YAY FOR NO ON 8!!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: muckhole on November 01, 2008, 01:56:22 PM
I've been offline for a bit. When does the vote for this go down?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2008, 02:10:51 PM
does money = votes? are we paying off homophobes?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: drozmight on November 01, 2008, 02:14:50 PM
I would if:

1. I had money
2. I lived in CA.

Yeah, like 40% of the Yes on 8 advertising is coming from Utah. (And 80% of the Yes on 8 advertising is coming from Mormons.)

Eh, I don't know.  Regardless of people in Utah wasting their money I don't really want to try and meddle in the affairs of another state like they are... we have the federal government to do that.

If it were my state I'd probably donate, but I'm with Bloodwake.

Maybe after this election they'll be able to institute same sex marriage on the federal level, but I doubt it'll happen soon.  It'll have to wait until all the old voting bastards die and our generation takes their place because we won't care.  Until then it's one of those political suicide stances like drug policy reform.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2008, 02:26:47 PM
On an issue like this, youre either for it or you arent. Commercials can't objectively lay out a pro-con on either side of the fence. It comes down to defending a belief, which most people are decided on already. So Utah spams ads, it isn't going to change minds, if anything it will let people who disagree know that they need to get out and vote.

Its not like a tax plan.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
On an issue like this, youre either for it or you arent. Commercials can't objectively lay out a pro-con on either side of the fence. It comes down to defending a belief, which most people are decided on already. So Utah spams ads, it isn't going to change minds, if anything it will let people who disagree know that they need to get out and vote.

Its not like a tax plan.

That's not true; No on 8 was up by 22 points, but the Mormons have closed 17 points of that gap over the past 6 weeks through spamming false smear advertising.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 01, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
I'm out of state and donated because as gay marriage will start becoming legalized throughout the US (it will happen in our lifetimes), we will all come across these Propositions that will try to stifle it.  If Proposition 8 passes, then that will start a precedent that will try to keep the United States back in Norman Rockwell 20th century "small town values" that are fucked up.

When this issue arrives in my state, it would be nice if all Americans took an interest in making sure we modernize as a nation and that includes equal rights for marriage.  Iowa already had gay marriage legal for a day or so it might be coming to my state here within the next decade or two.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2008, 03:59:12 PM
Or maybe the mormons just reminded the conservatives to vote
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2008, 04:18:35 PM
works for mccain!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2008, 04:19:30 PM
Nah, they've made the issue about education and tax empt status for churches by LYING to people.

Don't forget free speech.  According to the guys waving signs down the street a vote for Yes on Prop 8 is a vote for free speech in America.  ::)
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
people dumb enough to believe lies are a lost cause
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2008, 04:23:38 PM
There was a group of cute girls waving signs that said "mormon, straight and against 8" made me feel better about people.

you know what would make you feel even better?

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if you got me their phone numbers
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so I could test the validity of their claims :ninja :interracial :hump
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that first emote is supposed to be Secret Mormon Underwear
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Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
I wouldn't say they are a lost cause.  The yes on 8 campaign did an amazing job reframing the issue around education and tax status like i said, and it scared a lot of well meaning people.

Bebpo points out just how disjointed the campaign is, though - I've seen people argue that Yes on 8 is necessary to support free speech, and I've also seen "Keep Government Out of Our Lives - Vote Yes on 8" which is pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on November 01, 2008, 04:30:54 PM
Quote
"Keep Government Out of Our Lives - Vote Yes on 8"

Republican Speak 101
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Bebpo on November 01, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
I still think the best signs would have been:

HITLER WOULD'VE DONE IT [Fallout style thumbs up pic]
vote yes on Prop 8
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 01, 2008, 04:38:28 PM
YES ON 8
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Akala on November 01, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
On an issue like this, youre either for it or you arent. Commercials can't objectively lay out a pro-con on either side of the fence. It comes down to defending a belief, which most people are decided on already. So Utah spams ads, it isn't going to change minds, if anything it will let people who disagree know that they need to get out and vote.

Its not like a tax plan.

I'd like to believe this, but it only works like that if everyone has a grounded and individually weighted belief system. It's kind of like the idealistic 'engaged and informed' populace. I wish I had reason to believe that everyone assumed as much personal responsibility.

I'd say a lot of people in general are able to be swayed in one way or another on really core issues by messages that shouldn't have much effect at all. All the various outlets ~ a night at church, watching biased TV (one way or the other), listening to biased radio, reading up on the internet/blogs...all the way down to chain emails and signs on the road.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, and seeing a stupid commercial probably won't have much effect, but think about the state of modern McCarthyism three months ago.  Look at it now.

These people are stupid, and can't be helped, but we have to put forth an effort to sway them because at the end of the day we all just get one vote. A stupid vote with you beats a stupid vote against you.

Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 01, 2008, 06:08:20 PM
YES ON 8

I hope some angry Mormon rednecks beat your dumb ass to death.  For fucks sakes.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
YES ON 8

REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO JAKE GYLLENHAAL AT THE END OF BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN MOTHERFUCKER!? :maf :maf
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 01, 2008, 06:27:00 PM
I interpreted that scene as Heath's paranoia getting the best of him, making a total accident seem like a tragic homo bashing.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 01, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
Anyone have some samples of the commercials being run by the Yes on 8 crowd?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2008, 06:51:24 PM
Anyone have some samples of the commercials being run by the Yes on 8 crowd?

[youtube=425,350]0PgjcgqFYP4[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4

Apparently, Yes on 8 sent flyers to African-American voters saying Barack Obama was pro-8 (he's not, and he and Biden have spoken out about it at length)

They've also tried to blackmail businesses who donated to No on 8, saying "donate an equal amount to Yes on 8 or we will PUBLISH YOUR NAME!" To which most businesses said, fine, publish away motherfuckers.

Bigotted fearmonger shitfucks.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonig
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 01, 2008, 06:58:43 PM
Shit is fucked.

Who is that fat loser? Does he really want this to be his legacy?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2008, 06:59:27 PM
lies and deception: the new values of the christian right!
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 01, 2008, 07:02:46 PM
lies and deception: the new values of the christian right!

New?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
ohhhh yeeaaaaahhhh...
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Mandark on November 01, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
On an issue like this, youre either for it or you arent. Commercials can't objectively lay out a pro-con on either side of the fence. It comes down to defending a belief, which most people are decided on already. So Utah spams ads, it isn't going to change minds, if anything it will let people who disagree know that they need to get out and vote.

Its not like a tax plan.

I don't think that's true.

Yeah, it's not a technocratic issue.  But people's moral/ethical opinions can be swayed.

What I think is going on is that the Prop 8 people are flooding the discussion with arguments that prey on people's previous biases or give some kind of rhetorical cover for doing what they want to do anyway.

The anti-gay movement is completely weird these days.  Unfiltered, explicit homophobia is off the table so they have to make a lot of roundabout arguments in support of policies that have no other purpose other than oppressing and stigmatizing the feygeles.

So they act like gay marriage threatens churches, kids, and free speech because

1) dunces who don't trust homosexuals are apt to believe it

and

2) it gives homophobes an out.  They can say "I'm voting for 8.  I don't hate gay people or anything like that, but I'm really worried about..."

Sort of the same process where people adopted pretzel logic to oppose the Fair Housing Act and the Equal Rights Amendment (it will mean a ban on single-sex public restrooms!).  Most bigots are aware of how ugly their distilled arguments would actually sound to the rest of society.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 01, 2008, 08:11:42 PM
Is Patel gay?
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on November 01, 2008, 08:12:04 PM
Well, my friend who is a national coordinator for gay rights in new york contacted me and wanted to do a story on Patel, but he is choosing to remain anonymous, but i just wanted to say how cool that was everyone :-* :-* :-*
:bow Patel :bow2
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Mandark on November 01, 2008, 08:17:25 PM
Everyone should view their donations as investments, to be paid back at open-bar gay weddings.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on November 01, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
Well, my friend who is a national coordinator for gay rights in new york contacted me and wanted to do a story on Patel, but he is choosing to remain anonymous, but i just wanted to say how cool that was everyone :-* :-* :-*

They want to run a train on him choo-choooooo
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: demi on November 01, 2008, 08:19:28 PM
Strap-ons choo-choooooooooo
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 01, 2008, 08:20:31 PM
Well, my friend who is a national coordinator for gay rights in new york contacted me and wanted to do a story on Patel, but he is choosing to remain anonymous, but i just wanted to say how cool that was everyone :-* :-* :-*

They want to run a train on him choo-choooooo
It's a she, and she's bi.  And my ex-girlfriend.

Tell us the three way story again.  That was hot.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2008, 08:20:37 PM
that's cool

I'm not too picky these days

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Cohen can watch
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Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: CaptainCommando on November 01, 2008, 11:20:39 PM
I can assure you that Patel is most assuredly straight.

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or at least interested in women
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Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 01, 2008, 11:34:31 PM
That's true, Patel helped raised over a grand in just an hour or two.

Good job.
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 02, 2008, 04:37:53 PM
Is there a website where I can find the polling numbers for all of these ballot initiatives? I'm quite interested in what happens with Prop 5, but I can't find numbers anywhere.

Calitics' proposition estimates: http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7346
Calitics' proposition endorsements: http://endorsements.calitics.com/

WHEN MORMONS ATTACK
[youtube=425,350]q28UwAyzUkE[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28UwAyzUkE
Title: Re: Five of you motherfuckers better donate $20 to No on 8 before midnight tonight
Post by: TVC15 on November 02, 2008, 04:57:57 PM
Everyone should view their donations as investments, to be paid back at open-bar gay weddings.

I got dibs on experiencing your flesh first, Mandark.