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Title: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
Yeah so I hated on this game a whole bunch when it came out and still have a lot of issues with it, but it finally clicked.  I don't know if it's because I'm not playing NGB as much these days or if I just learned how to enjoy it without critiquing every single thing about it, but I can now cut shit up with my level 3 claws and kusami-gara with a smile.  The mission mode DLC is kind of a rip since the first 8 missions on normal last about 20 seconds each, but they are better on the harder difficulties (still, they're cut and pasted fights, not missions.)  Karma multipliers are fun as hell though for the score junky in me...even more power up shmup elements like that would make it completely kick ass.

All in all, Itagaki, even though you sleep on a pile of money and vending machine panties at night, the game ain't half bad.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: MCD on November 11, 2008, 01:02:48 AM
welcome back son.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: drew on November 11, 2008, 01:04:50 AM
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Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 01:07:23 AM
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 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 11, 2008, 01:13:49 AM
I will beat this someday!

*shakes fist at Demi*
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Jansen on November 11, 2008, 01:25:19 AM
itagaki will save us from qte shitfests like bayonetta. just give him time.

btw congrats on finally bowing down to the current champion of action games.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 01:27:06 AM
itagaki will save us from qte shitfests like bayonetta. just give him time.

btw congrats on finally bowing down to the current champion of action games.

whoa whoa whoa, i never used the word "champion"   :zzz

Bayonetta has qtes?  wtf Kamiya? it'll still rock...i hope.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2008, 02:19:59 AM
I love the Kusari-gama.  It took me a while to get used to since it's only for short and long range.  I'm still shit with the claws.

Smooth, what difficulty are you playing it on?
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 10:32:12 AM
Ninja Gaiden II is to Ninja Gaiden as Dead or Alive 3 and 4 are to Dead or Alive 2.

That is: the core gameplay is pretty similar, and it's a bit faster, and you have more options, but everything seems less controlled and precise and more random. Through all the movement and the combat, I never felt like I was in control the same way I did in the first one.

Yeah, mashing is pretty rewarded with certain weapons actually, since the fights are so insane.  Find a combo that takes off limbs > mash it ftw > clean up with OTs.  The only enemies that seem to take real skill are those giant dinosaur robots with the huge knives.  The part where you fight 3 of them with rockets coming at you is nuts!  So much fun.  The trial with them is pretty good too.  Also, fighting werewolves with the kusari-gara is fun as hell.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 11:58:56 AM
On the other hand, there's nothing quite like the satisfaction you get when you reduce an enemy group's numbers from eight to four in a matter of seconds by lopping off a few limbs, then finishing off all your wounded opponents in rapid succession.

Kusari-gama level 3, full UT = room full of dudes missing limbs :D
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 12, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
I didn't think it was too bad, I just thought it aesthetically sucked ass and that the camera needed work. Other than that, it's not tooo bad...
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 12, 2008, 10:04:42 PM
I babysit the camera really well since it's the same as NG1's...of course, that doesn't help where there are so many enemies and projectiles on screen that you have to rely on instinct/mashing.
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Post by: ch1nchilla on November 12, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
Did anyone else feel a Mortal Kombat vibe from the art?
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 16, 2008, 03:50:58 PM
man, they kinda nerfed the chapter 10 stairwell. I liked it when there was 100 ninjas right there to chop through.  Now it's like they want you to actually use skill on the part and the slowdown looks more on accident (as opposed to that sweet slow-mo gorefest.)

Got up to chapter 12 and still loving it.  The game lacks all the subtlety of NG1, which is a shame, but it's still fun.  Love how every boss that stands on 2 legs can be killed in a second using X,X,Y with a level 3 lunar. :lol   
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I submit
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 19, 2008, 12:37:00 AM
That final boss gauntlet sucked shit!   :lol 

Game was a piece of cake up until the last form of the last boss.  No healing items left ftl
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2008, 07:10:36 PM
fuck this shit! Back to NG Black :lol   

I didn't think the projectiles were bad on Warrior, but Mentor is another story.  really lazy way to add difficulty to the game. gg itagaki
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Draft on November 29, 2008, 07:15:40 PM
Yup. Really sucks, but Mentor and Master are both broken. The extra difficulty is almost all from ridiculous off screen projectile spam. So disappointing.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2008, 07:21:04 PM
I suffered through the second spider monster ninja fight with IS ninjas, then stopped at Genshin. 

It's a shame cause I had finally gotten in to the game (initially shunned it) and was ready to take on both M and MN.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
I made it to Level 3 i think on Mentor mode :bow

Then I got lazy again and shelved it
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
devil may cry 4 :bow2
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2008, 07:26:18 PM
devil may cry 4 :bow2

??? that game was a disappointment too, just not as big of a disappointment.

In Bayonetta we trust? 
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 07:27:02 PM
sounds like we got a weaksauce on our hands

right click > ignore
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2008, 07:29:49 PM
don't get me wrong, I played the hell out of dmc4.  I just want something that'll give the everlasting satisfaction that NG Black and DMC3:SE provided. 
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 07:31:16 PM
right click > ignore
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 29, 2008, 09:15:46 PM
fuck this shit! Back to NG Black :lol   

I didn't think the projectiles were bad on Warrior, but Mentor is another story.  really lazy way to add difficulty to the game. gg itagaki

told u
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2008, 09:52:14 PM
DMC4 sucks

in NG2 we trust
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 10:26:35 PM
demi, do your duty
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 29, 2008, 10:32:14 PM
Bayonetta > DMC3 > DMC1 > DMC4 > DMC2 > NG1 > NG DS > Barbie DS > Ninja Blade > NG2
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2008, 10:33:34 PM
Ninja Blade looks terrible
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 10:36:28 PM
Bayonetta > DMC3 > DMC1 > DMC4 > DMC2 > NG1 > NG DS > Barbie DS > Ninja Blade > NG2
barbie ds
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 29, 2008, 10:37:33 PM
REVOLVER HEELS MOTHERFUCKERS

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/video/stills/b/bayonetta_1mbps.flv.jpg)

GOTF 2009
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
fuck this shit! Back to NG Black :lol   

I didn't think the projectiles were bad on Warrior, but Mentor is another story.  really lazy way to add difficulty to the game. gg itagaki

told u


you were right :(

y2kev is in denial.  hardcore action games suck this gen.  KAMIYA SAVE US.  RANDOM WHITE DUDE MAKING GOW3 SAVE US!

jk, distinguished white devs can't make action games.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 29, 2008, 10:53:48 PM
y2kev is in denial.

he is nubcakes that watches the 1UP Show

dmc4 isnt hardcore enuff, more combos please
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 11:07:55 PM


I know DMC4 isn't great. The whole game part of it blows. But I think the combat was actually refined and made better over DMC3 (not dante tho) while I think NG2 is wholly unsatisfying and cheap. And it doesn't fix any of the other issues that people actually had with NG1 either...and it fucks up a bunch of other things in the process, like ridiculous technical problems, horrible bosses, and a framerate that should make Itagaki cry in way too many places.


Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Jansen on November 29, 2008, 11:47:24 PM
dmc4 doesn't suck but it isn't as good as NGII and it's such a far cry from the pinnacle of the series (dmc3) that it's damn near depressing

btw kamiya can take his qte's and shove them up his ass. i would be looking forward to bayonetta if they had not been mentioned

itagaki will return and deliver a pure action game that will destroy everything else. then you will finally see his brilliance as i have and prostrate before his games

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Itagaki_Thumbs_Up_MNT.jpg)

believe in The Itagaki heathens.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drohne on November 29, 2008, 11:49:27 PM
then you will finally see his brilliance as i have and prostate before his games

well at least you're frank about the homoerotic motive that tends to underlie itagaki fandom
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2008, 11:54:50 PM
Itagaki will return and show off his second great game :hyper can't wait!

DMC4 and NG2 are both fine games.  NG2s weak point was that the actual core of the gameplay was awesome, but you were fighting lame enemies, forced to use the shitty bow, and had to deal with some of the worst bosses ever.  DMC4 had really weird pacing and fighting bosses 3 times was boring.  The point where you switch form Nero to Dante is so weird, it's like you're so familiar with Nero that Dante seems like shit, then you slowly realize that Nero was actually a piece of shit and after you became amazing with Dante, they brought back Nero...AND FUCK THAT DICE GAME

Action games this gen are pretty so-so so far.  Ninja Blade seems to lower the bar waaay down, even lower than what Genji 2 set (or Heavenly Sword if you don't consider Genji/Onimusha style games action games)
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Jansen on November 29, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
look at that face. how could i not masturbate while gazing at its beauty
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on November 30, 2008, 12:03:50 AM
prostate  :lol
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Jansen on November 30, 2008, 12:18:51 AM
prostate exams are no laughing matter!
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 01:35:44 AM
Every humanoid boss in NG2 goes down in 4 combos with Level 2 or 3 Lunar and the X,X,Y combo :lol Would've worked in mentor if it weren't for those pesky IS ninjas.  Played some Black earlier today and kept getting my ass kicked. ON FUCKING NORMAL.  Earlier this year I could beat normal with hardly any potions/lives of the thousand gods...I'm ranked like 778 on that mode.  NGII made me soft.

DMC4 does have great core gameplay thankfully, so the bloody palace and Legendary Dark Knight mode are hot  If you guys ever get a PC that can run the game, it's worth buying the game for LDK and turbo mode alone.

Itagaki's revisionist WWII Japanese warplane game better make up for NGII. 
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: brawndolicious on November 30, 2008, 03:56:15 AM
NG2 was fun.  The only problem I think was that the dismemberment system made some weapons unbalanced against certain enemies.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 05:03:09 PM
NG2 was fun.  The only problem I think was that the dismemberment system made some weapons unbalanced against certain enemies.

true.  Scythe > all enemies. Lunar > all enemies.  Kusari-gama made wolves and ninjas pretty simple.  Dragon Sword was pretty balanced, besides the double and triple flying swallows that took off heads like nothing.

Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 05:11:33 PM
the lunar was totally noobed out

and made too powerful
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
also the quick short range weapons were turned into button mashers

tonfa are ass.  ass.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 06:10:09 PM
everything was mashy.  you had to mash to survive the more hectic encounters. 

also broken in the limb system, your own incendiary shurikens are a near 100% guarantee of removing a limb = most enemies dead in 2 hits. 
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: demi on November 30, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
Hey how's Mentor treating you, champ?
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 06:31:55 PM
lol, traded the game in today.  now it's just a general "whats busted in NGII" thread.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Draft on November 30, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
The tonfas are actually pretty cool in that they have this roll move that allows you to cancel out of most combos. So if you have a hard on for that DMC hey look I can do the same 3 moves 100 times in a row combo system, have at it.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: MCD on November 30, 2008, 06:59:50 PM
ITT ninja dogs.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 07:02:47 PM
The tonfas are actually pretty cool in that they have this roll move that allows you to cancel out of most combos. So if you have a hard on for that DMC hey look I can do the same 3 moves 100 times in a row combo system, have at it.

yeah but i just wish the combos were deeper than variations of xxxxxxxxxxxxy/xyxxxx...etc etc
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 30, 2008, 07:03:31 PM
NG2 sucked soooooo hard. 
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Draft on November 30, 2008, 07:05:17 PM
The tonfas are actually pretty cool in that they have this roll move that allows you to cancel out of most combos. So if you have a hard on for that DMC hey look I can do the same 3 moves 100 times in a row combo system, have at it.

yeah but i just wish the combos were deeper than variations of xxxxxxxxxxxxy/xyxxxx...etc etc
Eh. That's what a combo is. Specific input, specific action. Depth happens outside a combo system, in the back and forth between the player and the enemy. That's what Ninja Gaiden used to be about. Now it's about red motherfuckers with claws on their hands who throw eighteen exploding shuriken at a time.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 07:11:35 PM
That's what Ninja Gaiden used to be about. Now it's about 20-30 red motherfuckers with claws on their hands who throw eighteen exploding shuriken at a time.

fixed

mash your way through halls of meat®™
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
the tonfas do smash limbs like nothing.  Pretty cool, though fundamentally not safe since they have no range and few invincible frames. 


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ITT ninja dogs.

smh.  i'm an itagaki fan, but dude phoned it in and said "where's mah doa4 bonus, bitch?"   that much is obvious in the harder difficulties in the game.  the missions are kinda weak too.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: MCD on November 30, 2008, 07:23:18 PM
shut up ninja dog!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i'm just messing with ya
[close]
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
back and forth between the player and the enemy

precisely why NG2 fails as a ninja gaiden game imo
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Jansen on November 30, 2008, 07:38:38 PM
fucking pussies. you blasphemers will be the first against the wall
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on November 30, 2008, 07:42:15 PM
notice how the only people defending ng2 have anime avatars

food for thought
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 30, 2008, 07:44:22 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Jansen on November 30, 2008, 07:50:10 PM
hey hey hey

my avatar is not anime related. it's a troll against nomura and nomurafags
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 07:53:12 PM
hey hey hey

my avatar is not anime related. it's a troll against nomura and nomurafags

chutup kagari!

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  fucking pussies. you blasphemers will be the first against the wall

nuh uh.  they told me that they would be checking the NG, Black, and Sigma boards to see who would be spared.

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shut up ninja dog!

:lol you post on cag by any chance? 


Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: MCD on November 30, 2008, 07:57:31 PM
nope, never.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 08:01:07 PM
nope, never.

ah, my login/half-joke account there is "ninja dog."
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Bocsius on January 13, 2009, 11:05:48 AM
I bought NG2 last weekend, beat it this past weekend, and have many of the same complaints regarding bosses as others. Specifically, how so many forced you to rely on the bow. I also didn't like how one could grab hold of you, chomp your life down to squat, take forever to do it, and there was nothing you could do to stop it. Sure, take my health to the floor, but be quick about it.  :maf

Anyway, I'm replaying it again now. I like the overall game, but I agree that the last Ninja Gaiden was better.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: drew on January 13, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
shit game

shitbin

leper and lock

etc etc
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: y2kev on January 13, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
hey hey hey

my avatar is not anime related. it's a troll against nomura and nomurafags
wait, why?
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Bocsius on January 13, 2009, 01:20:22 PM
I bought NG2 last weekend, beat it this past weekend, and have many of the same complaints regarding bosses as others. Specifically, how so many forced you to rely on the bow. I also didn't like how one could grab hold of you, chomp your life down to squat, take forever to do it, and there was nothing you could do to stop it. Sure, take my health to the floor, but be quick about it.  :maf

Anyway, I'm replaying it again now. I like the overall game, but I agree that the last Ninja Gaiden was better.

Then again, NG1 made me go up against two tanks, a helicopter, and a tower all in a row.

:bow NG2 :bow2
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Beezy on January 13, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
I bought NG2 last weekend, beat it this past weekend, and have many of the same complaints regarding bosses as others. Specifically, how so many forced you to rely on the bow. I also didn't like how one could grab hold of you, chomp your life down to squat, take forever to do it, and there was nothing you could do to stop it. Sure, take my health to the floor, but be quick about it.  :maf

Anyway, I'm replaying it again now. I like the overall game, but I agree that the last Ninja Gaiden was better.

Then again, NG1 made me go up against two tanks, a helicopter, and a tower all in a row.

:bow NG2 :bow2
All which had to be killed with the bow and arrow. That was more frustrating than anything in either game.
Title: Re: Ninja Gaiden II...I no longer submit to your projectile rape on mentor mode
Post by: Bocsius on January 13, 2009, 01:44:27 PM
I've told the story before, I'll tell it again, but I saw a dude take his Xbox to GameStop to get help with that part. He had one elixir and no other recent saves. He had a save back in Chapter 6, so I was like "just replay the past few chapters" and he said "but I had to bring the system here just to get past Chapter 7!"