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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 11, 2008, 10:53:03 AM

Title: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 11, 2008, 10:53:03 AM: ?

I guess you guys hate the series for its crazy plots, but that's exactly why I like it (along with the great characters). Obviously Hideo Kojima isn't going to be winning a Nobel Prize for Literature anytime soon, but I like getting mindfucked as much as the next guy. MGS stories are all in good fun.

As for the long cutscenes, that really depends on the person. I don't mind them at all.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: drohne on November 11, 2008, 10:54:40 AM: i think evilbore just hates mgs4 -- which is comprehensible
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM: Because they'd rather play a POS like Fallout 3 and pretend how good they are.

Gamers are nothing more than even more annoying hipsters.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: drew on November 11, 2008, 10:56:51 AM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
hipsters.

::)
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Robo on November 11, 2008, 10:58:14 AM: Quote from: drohne on November 11, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
i think evilbore just hates mgs4 -- which is comprehensible

Word. MGS3 was my favorite game of last gen. MGS4 was more rank than Michelle Malkin's vag.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 10:59:05 AM: largely because of the last two thirds of the game

also the plot was toss

mgs2 and 3 uber alles
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 11, 2008, 11:00:12 AM: MGS doesn't have enough gameplay? But then again, this is the same forum that loves Peggle.

For the record, I had a lot of fun w/MGS4. It's easily the best PS3 exclusive ever.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:00:29 AM: Quote from: Drewsy on November 11, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
hipsters.

::)

Oh my bad, hipsters actually get laid.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 11:01:13 AM: peggle satisfies a need you will never comprehend in your narrow existence

i liked mgs4, too, if only for the absolutely killer second act and the boss fights. but loved it? naw.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 11:01:38 AM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
Quote from: Drewsy on November 11, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
hipsters.

::)

Oh my bad, hipsters actually get laid.

fucking fatties doesn't count as advertisable sex
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: cool breeze on November 11, 2008, 11:02:00 AM: If I wasn't incredibly homo for loving the aspects of MGS4 people both love and hate, I would probably dislike the long cutscenes, cheesy dialogue, and drop in gameplay after the first two chapters as well. But I am.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2008, 11:03:01 AM: because they're all black assholes
mgs4 > them
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Bildi on November 11, 2008, 11:03:12 AM: I don't mind the gameplay, but the story and characters totally grate on me. I find them pretentious rather than funny.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:03:54 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on November 11, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
Quote from: Drewsy on November 11, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
hipsters.

::)

Oh my bad, hipsters actually get laid.

fucking fatties doesn't count as advertisable sex

I'm not a hipster you distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 11:05:08 AM: i am not entirely sure what you are, but i'm certain "hipster" would be an upgrade
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Rman on November 11, 2008, 11:05:33 AM: I enjoyed it. Definitely one of the best PS3 games.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:07:09 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on November 11, 2008, 11:05:08 AM
i am not entirely sure what you are, but i'm certain "hipster" would be an upgrade

I'm the only one with a clue on this message board apparently.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 11:09:25 AM: a clue to the mystery of the freshly-fucked fatty, perhaps

please keep your adventures to yourself, frank hardy
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:12:56 AM: I don't fuck fatties anymore. Ask your mother.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 11, 2008, 11:13:35 AM: my mom died in a bacon grease fire, you insensitive fuck
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 11:19:07 AM: I love MGS, but I'm also a vocal MGS4 hater. MGS4 from the second half of act 3 through to the ending is my least favorite MGS ever. MGS4 acts 1 and 2 are excellent though, if not some of my favorite sequences in the series.

MGS 1, 2, and 3 pack in the gameplay and cinema. I usually skip the cinematics. Last half of MGS4 is cinematics and non-MGS gameplay :(
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:20:24 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on November 11, 2008, 11:13:35 AM
my mom died in a bacon grease fire, you insensitive fuck

Coincidentally thats what she called my cum
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 11:31:04 AM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on November 11, 2008, 11:13:35 AM
my mom died in a bacon grease fire, you insensitive fuck

Coincidentally thats what she called my cum

that was the worst comeback ever. :lol
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Eric P on November 11, 2008, 11:32:28 AM: because the game play is kind of lame

and the story is kind of lame

i can however understand how other people enjoy them, but they're just not for me.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2008, 11:46:17 AM: Act 4 is amazing.

When you come over the hill and the the snow starts to break and you see the hanger in front of you. So good. So amazing. Lovely.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2008, 11:53:29 AM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2008, 11:46:17 AM
Act 4 is amazing.

When you come over the hill and the the snow starts to break and you see the hanger in front of you. So good. So amazing. Lovely.

and then it's like "hey, where is everyone?"
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 11, 2008, 11:58:04 AM: Quote from: drohne on November 11, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
i think evilbore just hates mgs4 -- which is comprehensible

this
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Akala on November 11, 2008, 12:26:22 PM: I thought MGS4 was OK. It was no 3, but it wasn't totally terrible. Just a bit.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: cool breeze on November 11, 2008, 12:32:57 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2008, 11:46:17 AM
Act 4 is amazing.

When you come over the hill and the the snow starts to break and you see the hanger in front of you. So good. So amazing. Lovely.

Both that, act 3, and later parts of act 4 were awesome the first time around. Replaying them gets a bit annoying, especially act 3.

I'm still hoping for an MGS4 expansion that is just bits like Act 1 and 2 but mixed with Portable Ops style.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: tiesto on November 11, 2008, 12:37:28 PM: My problem with the series is each game, aside from the first one (which is by far my favorite...) has a big flaw:

MGS2 - too many Codec scenes, Raiden... LOVED the plot though
MGS3 - annoying injury recovery system...
MGS4 - game falls apart after chapter 2 (though I liked chapter 4 quite a bit!), some annoying camera stuff, main plot twist was a bit disappointing

I'd say overall I'm a big fan of the series though...
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Jansen on November 11, 2008, 10:51:24 PM: i like the gameplay in mgs games. which is why i think the first three are great, and the 4th is just "good" because it's more of a movie and 2 of the acts suck.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: tiesto on November 11, 2008, 11:00:54 PM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 11, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
I'm playing MGS4 right now. :lol Nice to know I can expect it to start sucking after the second act.

Well, there are parts in the 3rd act that are very cool, and the 4th act, although short, is also fun
spoiler (click to show/hide)
especially if you're a MGS1 veteran
[close]
...
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: y2kev on November 11, 2008, 11:22:21 PM: How the hell does MGS2 pack in the cutscenes and gameplay? 1/3rd of the game is the tanker (:bow), 1/3rd is defusing bombs, and the final third is running around naked.

MGS4 is the sequel to MGS1 and 2 in every way...which is what Kojima promised and made. It's unfortunate some fans didn't like how he had to wrap up 20 years of animu in 20 hours, but that's how life is.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:24:01 PM: Quote from: tiesto on November 11, 2008, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 11, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
I'm playing MGS4 right now. :lol Nice to know I can expect it to start sucking after the second act.
LOOK AT ME IM A distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

Thanks for spoiling it for me.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 11, 2008, 11:46:03 PM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: tiesto on November 11, 2008, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 11, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
I'm playing MGS4 right now. :lol Nice to know I can expect it to start sucking after the second act.
LOOK AT ME IM A distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

Thanks for spoiling it for me.

You revisit Shadow Moses in HD. Except for the opening of the act, where you get to play a bit of MGS1 (PS1) emulated.

It's a very cool surprise. :)
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 11, 2008, 11:55:26 PM: Thanks for ruining it for me. Although I don't think I'll ever get the chance to play MGS4 so.

Whats it like? Might as well spoil that section for me.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 12, 2008, 12:24:42 AM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:55:26 PM
Thanks for ruining it for me. Although I don't think I'll ever get the chance to play MGS4 so.

Whats it like? Might as well spoil that section for me.

***SPOILER*** since the spoiler tag isn't working yet, apparently

there are some little annoying robots there and you hear quotes from MGS1 in the background while you run to the spot where you fought liquid. Looks fucking excellent, but it's pretty disappointing-- the entire map of MGS1 would've made an awesome stealth level...instead you sneak by some robots, then do some TPS/rail shooting for an hour or two.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: demi on November 12, 2008, 12:25:05 AM: lol
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Positive Touch on November 12, 2008, 07:35:50 AM: Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: tiesto on November 11, 2008, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 11, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
I'm playing MGS4 right now. :lol Nice to know I can expect it to start sucking after the second act.
LOOK AT ME IM A distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

Thanks for spoiling it for me.

snake dies
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Kestastrophe on November 12, 2008, 07:57:11 AM: I thought MGS1 was alright, and pretty revolutionary at the time. Never played 2, but I thought Snake Eater was shitty.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: tiesto on November 12, 2008, 08:51:44 AM: Didn't know the spoiler tag wasn't working when I posted that... sorry, dude. Although I don't think what I said was altogether too much of a spoiler.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 12, 2008, 09:12:29 AM: 2 > 1 > 3 > 4 for me. 2 runs at SILKY SMOOTH 60fps omg. Kojima tried way too hard to make an epic story for 4.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Raban on November 12, 2008, 10:28:24 AM: Quote from: Greatness Gone on November 12, 2008, 09:12:29 AM
2 > 1 > 3 > 4 for me. 2 runs at SILKY SMOOTH 60fps omg. Kojima tried way too hard to make an epic story for 4.

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: bork on November 12, 2008, 12:12:56 PM: Still have not played 4. Or 2 for that matter. Well, I started 2 months back to get ready for 4, but just got turned off to it, especially coming off of MGS3 Subsistence.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: T234 on November 12, 2008, 12:20:12 PM: Because the even # MGS' are dreadful (I'll confirm MGS 2 was a disaster. I dunno how good 4 was but if it's like 2 then it is a fucking unplayable mess that lives in the past with regard to control scheme and camera. MGS 3 was redeemed because of setting.).
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: bork on November 12, 2008, 12:22:03 PM: I tried MGS4 briefly. The controls are fine. It's just that everyone says essentially the same thing: Pretty good or great the first two acts, then goes to shit because the game play takes a rest and you watch cut scenes x 1000. But I'll check it out for myself one day.

I liked MGS3S a lot but when it comes down to it it's only the original that I can say I really, really, REALLY liked back then.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2008, 02:21:07 PM: I love MGS
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: E-DuB on November 12, 2008, 02:26:03 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on November 11, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
Quote from: Drewsy on November 11, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on November 11, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
hipsters.

LOL! To stay on topic though, I enjoyed MGS 4. Any game that has me swearing at 4 AM about a gun fight or turn of events, i.e. Bioshock, Gears, MGS is aces in my book

::)

Oh my bad, hipsters actually get laid.

fucking fatties doesn't count as advertisable sex
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 12, 2008, 04:08:20 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 12, 2008, 12:19:44 PM
I arbitrarily decided to start hating this series several years back.

Me too.

Oh wait, it was because of Twin Snakes.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 12, 2008, 06:24:00 PM: Just give me MGS4: VR Mode. Pure gameplay, I could give a fuck about the Lore of the series.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 12, 2008, 06:39:37 PM: MGS2 was great. I liked everything about it except for the lackluster bosses (Fatman excluded). The sword controls for the last portion of the game were on Too Human levels of horrible.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2008, 06:52:19 PM: MGS4 says "War has changed"
Fallout 3 says "War never changes"

WHO DO I BELIEVE!?
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 12, 2008, 07:04:34 PM: ID tagged soldiers carrying ID tagged weapons driving ID tagged cars along ID tagged roads in ID tagged towns run by ID tagged warlords fighting ID tagged enemies funded by ID tagged governments.

I say War has changed.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MoxManiac on November 12, 2008, 07:05:00 PM: MGS3 is the only one I really liked, and the only one I would go to the trouble of replaying.

I think if MGS4 had been like act 1 and 2 for the entire game I would have adored it.

:bow Act 1 and 2 of MGS4 :bow2

:piss Rest of MGS4 :piss2
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 12, 2008, 07:53:12 PM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2008, 06:52:19 PM
MGS4 says "War has changed"
Fallout 3 says "War never changes"

WHO DO I BELIEVE!?

MGS4 because it doesn't have game breaking bugs.
Title: Re: Why does evilbore hate MGS?
Post by: Robo on November 12, 2008, 08:02:47 PM: actually it does: nanomachines