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Title: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:15:41 PM
It's getting trashed by the mainstream critics, but I might venture out tomorrow to see it anyway.  I'm a sucker for Bond flicks.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:18:03 PM
Some of the reviews are similar to the inability to embrace change that hung over the Batman Begins reboot ("where is teh camp?").  It looks cool and the director is solid.  It'd have to be a pretty horrible production to not even make it out as a fun popcorn film.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:20:12 PM
Also, if it sucks, Solo (I see you lerkin'!) might never post on the Internet again!
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 08:20:23 PM
Ill be seeing it tomorrow, as is my obligation to the 007 cult. Im expecting to be disappointed, though, from everything Ive seen/read/heard.

EDIT: I MAY TAKE MY E-LIFE, WILLCO!
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 13, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
I've already seen it. I liked it, but it wasn't as good as Casino Royale.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:21:22 PM
Any particular reasons why?

If you have some kind of fetish for all Bond films, considering the majority range from mediocre to bad, then I can't fathom why you wouldn't enjoy this entry on some level.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 13, 2008, 08:21:38 PM
Oh shit, it is getting trashed
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quantum_of_solace/?name_order=asc
(35% with top critics wtf)

I was gonna go on a date and see it but it sounds like we're just going to dinner instead. So...maybe I'll see it saturday or sunday

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Don't fuck with Bourne :punch
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Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:22:43 PM
Bourne films are such a pop culture fad.  I can't wait 'till we get to "I LOVE THE '00s!" on VH1 and we talk about how nobody can differentiate any of the Bourne films from one another.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: drew on November 13, 2008, 08:23:44 PM
already saw it

not as good as Casino Royale

besides the background music it may as well not even be a bond film
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 08:24:13 PM
Any particular reasons why?

If you have some kind of fetish for all Bond films, considering the majority range from mediocre to bad, then I can't fathom why you wouldn't enjoy this entry on some level.

Because this is the first Bond film in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time where you (or at least I did) had legitimately high expectations. CR was pretty much the Bond movie Ive wanted my whole life, and all the pieces seemed to be locked down for a successful run of films in the Craig era. To hear that they quite possibly fucked it up ALREADY is disheartening.

Anyways, Im seeing it in about 18 hours, so Ill see for myself soon enough.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 13, 2008, 08:26:41 PM
I went in with the expectations that it'd be a good action flick and nu-Bond entry, not for a Yankees-style run of dominance.  I like Casino Royale a lot, but I don't put it on that kind of pedestal.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: drew on November 13, 2008, 08:27:46 PM
a couple action scenes

spoiler (click to show/hide)
especially the final fight
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are more intenses than anything in Bourne
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 08:27:50 PM
CR is pedestal worthy in my books!

Another way to put it Will is that during the Brosnan tenure, I went to see the movies out of mostly curiousity for how low they could go (and I never in my wildest dreams expected a finely aged cheese like DAD), but CR seemed to be a signal that the producers finally got it.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: demi on November 13, 2008, 08:29:03 PM
If anyone sees it tell me if they play The Boat That Rocked trailer.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 13, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
Casino Royale is a 7/10 type action movie at best, not much different than Batman Begins. I don't get why people pretend that it's amazing. Admittedly the first half is full of amazing stuff but the casino scene is meh and everything after that is laughable, especially the stupid romantic shit ending with the typical James Bond "twist"

Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 08:31:05 PM
I don't get why people pretend that it's amazing. Admittedly the first half is full of amazing stuff

What what in the butt
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mupepe on November 13, 2008, 08:33:03 PM
I'm going tomorrow.

I hated the last half of CR enough that I never, ever, ever, ever want to see it again.

Give me mindless action please :D

BTW, I'm not a big Bond fan.  Never have been and I find most to be really really bad.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 13, 2008, 08:33:18 PM
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 13, 2008, 08:34:11 PM
Half the movie features awesome stuff, the other half ruins everything. The opening scene really gets your attention, hell even the stupid "Bond being a detective lol" stuff is cool enough thanks to Craig.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 13, 2008, 08:34:56 PM
Casino Royale kicks ass, bow to Solo you nubs
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 13, 2008, 08:40:38 PM
I expect it to be shit.

I'm a big Bond fan but even I know that it is probably going to be the worst Bond since The World is Not Enough.  Once again, they bastardize the Bond series because they focus too much on action.  Why try to make it a Bourne clone?  I don't think Bond fans and the public are going to tolerate another reboot of the series.

I'll probably see it but at a dollar theater.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mupepe on November 13, 2008, 08:40:46 PM
Casino Royale kicks ass, bow to Solo you nubs
I'll watch the first half with you and then we can just make out the whole second half.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 13, 2008, 08:40:55 PM
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.

But what about going into this year? Or after their predecessors were released? :P
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 13, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
I'm going out to see it at midnight, so hopefully it'll be good. I'm honestly worried about the short-ass running time...
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 13, 2008, 09:55:25 PM
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.

But what about going into this year? Or after their predecessors were released? :P

Pre-TDK release, I would have thought QoS could have been better, since CR is better than BB. But then TDK came out, was awesome, and QoS has had nothing but negatives coming down the pipeline for a while (script rushed to beat writers strike, action ramped up, character stuff thrown out, etc).
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Rman on November 13, 2008, 10:03:17 PM
Most likely will see it this weekend.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2008, 10:06:05 PM
Not a big fan of James Bond, but I may just go see it this weekend anyway with a friend since he might want to.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 13, 2008, 11:35:49 PM
Stopped by and picked up tickets for a 7:30 showing tomorrow night. I had movie cash vouchers for two tickets, so it didn't cost me a dime.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: xnikki118x on November 14, 2008, 02:34:21 AM
It looks like I'm going to. Ecro and I are going with some of his/our friends, as Friday is his birthday. Happy birthday, honey!
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: cool breeze on November 14, 2008, 02:57:19 AM
None of my friends, either those here or the ones coming back for Thanksgiving break, are fans of Bond movies at all.  The chances of me seeing this in theaters are pretty slim.  There is a better chance of seeing some shitty movie like Twilight than this.  I'm cool with that considering I first saw Casino Royale first by downloading a low quality cam version that I never watched and eventually downloaded a DVD rip that I did watch and now I own the blu-ray.  I still want to watch it since I liked Casino Royale, it's just that I'm fine with waiting on it.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Bloodwake on November 14, 2008, 11:02:10 AM
I'm pumped, but I think I'm going to be disappointed.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Bourne films are such a pop culture fad.  I can't wait 'till we get to "I LOVE THE '00s!" on VH1 and we talk about how nobody can differentiate any of the Bourne films from one another.

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Tucah on November 14, 2008, 12:05:28 PM
I saw this last night at midnight. I'm not an enormous Bond fan, but I've seen most of the movies and like the series. I was very disappointed in QoS. Plot was terrible, not that there was really all that much plot to speak of anyway. Some of the action scenes were cool, but it definitely felt more like a Bourne movie than a Bond movie with all the shaky cam, especially in the opening scene. I knew what I was getting into before going, I had read some reviews beforehand, but I still walked out extremely dissatisfied.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 14, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
Saw the midnight showing last night, I wasn't disappointed in it as a movie, I was more disappointed in it as a Bond film. It was awesome otherwise, besides the fucking atrociously incomprehensible opening car chase. I just loved how Bond does not give a damn about anyone.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 14, 2008, 06:32:55 PM
Pretty. Empty. Pretty empty. These are the words that come to mind when I think about Marc Forster’s Quantum Of Solace. The direct sequel to Casino Royale lacks all the soul (and source material) that made the previous film so special. Instead of character interaction driving the film, Quantum Of Solace feels more like a straight up action-driven movie with the character development barely hanging on for dear life.

The film begins with a bang, picking up amidst a car chase taking place seconds after the ending of Casino Royale. Then we are quickly whisked from location to location, for reasons not always clear, and treated to action scene after action scene, none of which stand out as being especially well conceived or shot. This was Forster’s first action movie foray, and it shows – there is nothing on the level of Martin Campbell’s action scenes here. So we jump from fight to location and back again, all with a totally unmemorable villain anchoring it all, a forgettable (but unbelievably gorgeous) female lead in Olga Kurylenko. The whole thing feels so darn inconsequential, and I couldn’t help but feel that this film failed terribly on the promise of setting up Quantum as a new SPECTRE-ish organization. I also felt it lacked any sort of punch in resolving Bond’s chip on his shoulder, the ghost of Vesper.

It wasn’t all bad though. Daniel Craig thoroughly owns the role now, and only good things can come with him locked up for another 3 films. He plays the role with all the swagger in the world, but he also exudes a palpable sense of self-loathing and loss from the events of the previous film, which keeps his performance grounded. Another big positive is the return of Mathis – the two best scenes in the film are quieter, more intimate character moments between Mathis and Bond. I’d go so far as to say that it was those two scenes, along with the film’s final scenes, that keep the film afloat for me. Other than that, it was minor things that did it for me – the changing of font styles for each location, David Arnold’s score, the return of MI6’s Universal Exports alias, and so on.

I think Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune actually said it best:

" ‘There's something horribly efficient about you,’ Kurylenko says to Craig at one point. The same goes for the film.”

That’s Quantum Of Solace in a nutshell - too frenetic, too much focus on rapid fire action, too plot-driven. All of the factors combine to leave no room for the one thing that made the previous film work so well – the human factor. Quantum Of Solace is a solid action movie on its own, but is nothing less than a massive disappointment as the direct sequel to a film that seemed to have locked everything into place for the future of the series.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: demi on November 14, 2008, 06:36:09 PM
what trailers played?
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 14, 2008, 06:52:04 PM
Some Adam Sandler one, a Will Smith one, and something else. Nothing good. No Simon Pegg/Nick Frost movies, if thats what youre getting at.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: demi on November 14, 2008, 06:52:32 PM
Gay, must just be only in the UK then
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 14, 2008, 06:53:18 PM
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 14, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
Yeah, the trailers on whole sucked.

Oh, and there was a Valkyrie one. Tom Cruise as a Nazi, lulz.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: demi on November 14, 2008, 06:54:16 PM
Trailer for this plays over in the UK

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1131729/
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 14, 2008, 06:54:22 PM
the twist is that he's actually Lord Xenu
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 14, 2008, 06:54:57 PM
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit

If you're looking for action, QoS has a MUCH higher quota. Unfortunately a lot of it is same-y and not very exciting though. There is nothing in QoS as awesome as the parkour scene in CR. Theres a parkour-lite scene, but it stinks.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 14, 2008, 07:01:33 PM
Cause like the first part of CR was like a Bourne movie without the barfy shakey cam
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 14, 2008, 07:01:52 PM
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit

If you're looking for action, QoS has a MUCH higher quota. Unfortunately a lot of it is same-y and not very exciting though. There is nothing in QoS as awesome as the parkour scene in CR. Theres a parkour-lite scene, but it stinks.

that parkour scene was lulz

watch District B13
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 14, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
ill just watch more Get Smart instead and wait for QoS for rental
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: drew on November 14, 2008, 07:06:40 PM
everyone seems to forget the awesome Bourneesque ali baba sword fight scene in Casino Royale
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 14, 2008, 07:07:27 PM
I honestly dont remember much aside from bond crashing through some wood and looking hardcore. I also remember not liking the ending.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2008, 07:07:31 PM
I thought it worked as a fun popcorn movie but as a "real" movie not really.

Half the time I had no idea wtf was going on, but it looked nice and was entertaining so I turned my brain off and didn't care.  Had a great time, but yeah the movie could've been a lot better.


The redhead was amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing though.  :drool
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 14, 2008, 07:09:27 PM
I'm going to watch Bourne this weekend

Best post in this thread
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: drew on November 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
I honestly dont remember much aside from bond crashing through some wood and looking hardcore. I also remember not liking the ending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFz-gLoycI

jobs done, the bitch is dead!
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 14, 2008, 07:13:03 PM
Cause like the first part of CR was like a Bourne movie without the barfy shakey cam

QoS is like a Bourne movie WITH the barfy shakey cam included. And Im pretty sure that, much like with the Bourne movies, the shakey cam/fast edits in QoS make the action look a lot more exciting than it really is.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 14, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: drew on November 14, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
goin to see this in an hour

this time on the big screen
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 14, 2008, 11:58:03 PM
I'm pretty much with Solo.

The best stuff was between Bond and Mathis, and I really wish that film kept that type of chemistry.  Felix and Bond are another great coupling, but they get - what? - maybe thirty seconds to speak to one another.

The plot was almost unintelligible and for the first hour or so (and I'm not kidding here), Bond could not go more than a minute of screen time before ERUPTIN' IN A FURIOS ACTION SCENE!!!

It was almost exhausting.

It gets a pass for Daniel Craig keeping the whole thing afloat and nothing about it is terrible (save for maybe the LOL-inducing LETS THROW UR FRIEND IN THE GARBAGE scene), but it's totally unmemorable.  I think we'll view this as a stopgap between what I'm hoping will be a superb sequel.

Best part was Bond listening in on the Quantum meeting.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 15, 2008, 12:01:09 AM
Yeah, definitely some fine Bond girls in this one.

As for the main plot...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They never really elaborated on this manufactured drought, how Greene built this dam, how this water was getting to Bolivia, etc.  It went by so quick it's as if the writers never thought it through and were hoping that we would be too distracted by FURIOS ACTION! to try and discern what the hell was going on.
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Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 15, 2008, 12:04:56 AM
Kept waiting for Bourne to appear and kill this cigarillo robot.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 15, 2008, 12:05:36 AM
Jason Bourne is so emo.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 15, 2008, 12:12:05 AM
I enjoyed the movie as well, but was sadly disappointed by the lack of plot development in the movie. I couldn't believe the movie was over so quickly too. At least the trailers were awesome.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 15, 2008, 07:03:18 AM
I'm pretty much with Solo.

The best stuff was between Bond and Mathis, and I really wish that film kept that type of chemistry.  Felix and Bond are another great coupling, but they get - what? - maybe thirty seconds to speak to one another.

The plot was almost unintelligible and for the first hour or so (and I'm not kidding here), Bond could not go more than a minute of screen time before ERUPTIN' IN A FURIOS ACTION SCENE!!!

It was almost exhausting.

It gets a pass for Daniel Craig keeping the whole thing afloat and nothing about it is terrible (save for maybe the LOL-inducing LETS THROW UR FRIEND IN THE GARBAGE scene), but it's totally unmemorable.  I think we'll view this as a stopgap between what I'm hoping will be a superb sequel.

Best part was Bond listening in on the Quantum meeting.


Glad to hear we're in agreement - its been too long, my old friend! You said it right though, the plot is unintelligible and the whole darn thing is an exhausting exercise in going nowhere. I also agree that nothing about the film is terrible, its just that nothing about it is extremely well done, either. QoS is the definition of mediocrity.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 15, 2008, 08:02:27 AM
I don't know if I'd call it mediocre.  I definitely will have to see it again - the pacing is so ridiculous that it's near impossible to figure out what's going on.  Maybe with additional viewings it will prove otherwise, but I will most certainly wait 'till DVD.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 15, 2008, 08:05:16 AM
Im giving it one more theatrical viewing, myself. Then anything beyond that will be Bluray. All I know is that I walked out of CR wanting to see it again because it was awesome, but I walked out of QoS wanting to see it again to see if I really witnessed the clusterfuck that I thought I did.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 15, 2008, 01:38:46 PM
Oh I don't know.  It was definitely no Casino Royale for me, but I walked out extremely happy.  Maybe because I went in with horrible expectations.  It could've been much much much worse, and I'm glad they set up another movie that delves into Quantum.

I'm pumped.  Craig is still fucking badass.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mupepe on November 15, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
I saw it last night and I completely didn't care about the story.  You don't even really know what's going on during the first half.  the plot is too vague for too long.  I heard people around me actually asking "does this have a point?"  and "why are they doing this?"

it was hard not to zone out between action scenes.

I also saw Madagascar 2.  Madagascar 2 was better.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: The Sceneman on November 15, 2008, 03:00:25 PM
why do they keep making bond films? they are always shit, and never have any tits
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 15, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
I think Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune actually said it best:

" ‘There's something horribly efficient about you,’ Kurylenko says to Craig at one point. The same goes for the film.”

That’s Quantum Of Solace in a nutshell - too frenetic, too much focus on rapid fire action, too plot-driven. All of the factors combine to leave no room for the one thing that made the previous film work so well – the human factor. Quantum Of Solace is a solid action movie on its own, but is nothing less than a massive disappointment as the direct sequel to a film that seemed to have locked everything into place for the future of the series.

As much as I liked the movie, I fully agree.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 15, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
UGH SHAKY CAM
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 15, 2008, 03:46:17 PM
Oh I don't know.  It was definitely no Casino Royale for me, but I walked out extremely happy.  Maybe because I went in with horrible expectations.  It could've been much much much worse, and I'm glad they set up another movie that delves into Quantum.

I'm pumped.  Craig is still fucking badass.

You seem to be much more forgiving than most here, from what Ive noticed, BrandNew. A movie would have to be offensively bad before you would shell it, I think.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mupepe on November 15, 2008, 09:35:24 PM
The worst thing about the movie actually, was the pacing.  Holy crap.  It went from "YES!  HOLY SHIT!" to "Hurry the fuck up" like 10 times.  The story advanced in short bursts really with lots of filler crap between.  It's like they they only had about 30 minutes of a legitimate movie that was artificially spread apart by random crap trying to make it longer..
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 15, 2008, 10:45:25 PM
Oh I don't know.  It was definitely no Casino Royale for me, but I walked out extremely happy.  Maybe because I went in with horrible expectations.  It could've been much much much worse, and I'm glad they set up another movie that delves into Quantum.

I'm pumped.  Craig is still fucking badass.

You seem to be much more forgiving than most here, from what Ive noticed, BrandNew. A movie would have to be offensively bad before you would shell it, I think.

Well, I can totally see why you don't like it.  I'm not going to argue it, cause I think you're right.  But I don't think its AS disappointing as it could've been--at least it's not Die Another Day.

Like I said, I still like Craig and I like how they set up his future films--this one just felt more of an expansion pack rather than a full-on sequel.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 16, 2008, 04:02:06 AM
I hated Casino Royale but even I liked QoS.  The action was awesome, nobody can disagree with that.  The plot could have used some more rogaine on it's pubes to more thoroughly explain the whole backstory with the criminals and their conspiracies but I'm sure that the dvd cut will add something to that at least.  There is also a corny whore-girl (Fields) that was about as believable as any other bond-whore.  However, it was refreshing how there wasn't any "cunning linguist" emo-douche double-entendres or hip parkour bullshit action scenes.

Whatever you think of other Bond movies, you'll have fun watching this.  It never drags on like Casino Royale and it nearly eliminated the corniness of the past Bond movies.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TVC15 on November 16, 2008, 04:06:27 AM
why do they keep making bond films? they are always shit, and never have any tits

Because they make a lot of money.  Cash is more important than quality in this shitty, shitty industry.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
I dont know wtf the story was about. The action was terrible and unmotivated. The bond girl was lame and had a cliche back story. Can anyone tell me how the boat flipped over in the chase sequence, or how the fuck they survived the fall.

This bond is turning into the pierce brosnan bond. One great first movie and then shitty sequels.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 04:30:56 PM
The film felt like they took the first act of a story and peppered it with inane action sequences.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
The action was stupid and pointless. Most of the time it was cross cut with bullshit like the horse race. Whoh thats deep man.


If Casino Royal was a 10. This is a 4.5 at best.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 16, 2008, 05:12:35 PM
4.5  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 16, 2008, 05:17:08 PM
The fact that it's a bad Bond movie aside, it is what it is-- a solid action film. I'd give it a 7.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:21:56 PM
My favorite part was when they parachuted out of the plane fell for thousands of feet and opened the parachute inside a sink hole with like 10 feet left and still survived and perfectly able to walk.

Or wait, my real favorite part was when the bad guys building went up in flame for no reason and the bond girl curled up in the fetal position as cliche sound from her childhood played.

Actually my favorite part was when bond killed everyone like 20 times. Even though it was always in his best interest to keep someone alive for questioning.

No wait, my favorite part was when bond asked the bad guy "Tell me who you work for and what you are up to" and then the movie would jump ahead without showing us what was said. Bond acted like nothing important was said at all. This happened twice so i cant really say which one was my favorite.

Wait wait wait my real real favorite part was the guy at the hotel room attacked him for no reason at all. I love that.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:35:06 PM
Wait wait wait my real real favorite part was the guy at the hotel room attacked him for no reason at all. I love that.

He was a killer and Bond just walked in the room. Should he have offered him a spot of tea?

Maybe he should have asked who the fuck he was. What if bond was delivering him money or...  wait, I would finish this post but someone is knocking on my door and i need to kill them

Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 16, 2008, 05:39:56 PM
Casino Royale was just shit.  The opening parkour scene and shooting a guy in an embassy made it fail at being a smart action movie.  The boring card game and the largely useless scenes after the casino just made the plot stupider.

Beardo, the building blows up because of the hydrogen tanks that were mentioned multiple times.  Bond also only kills people after they try to kill him.  It was still a pretty corny movie but it's target audience is 13 year old boys. iirc, he accidentally kills the assassin in the hotel room.

And Brosnan was the best Bond considering how much he salvaged the shitty scripts he worked with.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:40:34 PM
Casino Royale was just shit.  The opening parkour scene and shooting a guy in an embassy made it fail at being a smart action movie.  The boring card game and the largely useless scenes after the casino just made the plot stupider.

And Brosnan was the best Bond considering how much he salvaged the shitty scripts he worked with.

You are so Gay.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:52:48 PM
He just picked the lock and went in. It wasn't like he knocked or used a key.

He did knock.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 16, 2008, 05:54:27 PM
What's wrong with the opening scene of CR? I thought it was great. The casino shit/second half ruined it, not the early Bond antics
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
What's wrong with the opening scene of CR? I thought it was great. The casino shit/second half ruined it, not the early Bond antics

OH god the opening scene in Casino Royale was the best. Probably the best thing in any bond film ever.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
You want to know what was so awesome about the QoS opening? The part where after 10 minutes of being chased and shot at by a bunch of bad guys bond finally remembers he has a gun in the car. Bond is super smart.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 16, 2008, 06:37:01 PM
What's wrong with the opening scene of CR? I thought it was great. The casino shit/second half ruined it, not the early Bond antics
The parkour, shooting a foreign national in another country's embassy, and shooting a  propane tank to cause a huge explosion.  Not as exciting as QoS's opening and just really cheesy-looking.
You want to know what was so awesome about the QoS opening? The part where after 10 minutes of being chased and shot at by a bunch of bad guys bond finally remembers he has a gun in the car. Bond is super smart.
But the glass was bullet-proof.  Like the last 20 or so Bond cars.  It's sorta useless to shoot unless doors fall off.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 16, 2008, 06:42:42 PM
They should just cast Tim Curry as the next Bond.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Beardo on November 16, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
What's wrong with the opening scene of CR? I thought it was great. The casino shit/second half ruined it, not the early Bond antics
The parkour, shooting a foreign national in another country's embassy, and shooting a  propane tank to cause a huge explosion.  Not as exciting as QoS's opening and just really cheesy-looking.
You want to know what was so awesome about the QoS opening? The part where after 10 minutes of being chased and shot at by a bunch of bad guys bond finally remembers he has a gun in the car. Bond is super smart.
But the glass was bullet-proof.  Like the last 20 or so Bond cars.  It's sorta useless to shoot unless doors fall off.

Or he rolls the window down just enough to shoot.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Tauntaun on November 16, 2008, 09:02:01 PM
Eh, movie was....meh.  :-\
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Eric P on November 16, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
They should just cast Tim Curry as the next Bond.

or woody allen
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 16, 2008, 09:40:59 PM
Not even Clive Owen could save this shit.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 16, 2008, 09:45:34 PM
The intro to Casino Royale was awesome. The intro to Quantum of Solace, however, was an incomprehensible cinematographic / editing mess, IMO.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 16, 2008, 10:44:34 PM
Or he rolls the window down just enough to shoot.
He's trying to escape with a hostage.  Why would he risk hitting oncoming traffic to roll down the bullet proof glass and fire a automatic gun behind him on a crowded highway?

When he's in a faster car?
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 17, 2008, 01:09:31 AM
The intro to Casino Royale was awesome. The intro to Quantum of Solace, however, was an incomprehensible cinematographic / editing mess, IMO.
too right mate.
I just saw QOS, I rather enjoyed it.  Good stuff, some really good action scenes, lacks the bloat of many latter day Bond films, and as near as I could tell, hardly any CGI in the whole flick (yes, that's a good thing).

By the way, how the hell did this movie cost 200 million dollars?  Its reasonably short, has no expensive movie stars (Craig only got about 10 mil to be in it), and was largely shot in Chile (a cheap filmmaking country).  Where did the money go?
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 17, 2008, 01:20:19 AM
By the way, how the hell did this movie cost 200 million dollars?  Its reasonably short, has no expensive movie stars (Craig only got about 10 mil to be in it), and was largely shot in Chile (a cheap filmmaking country).  Where did the money go?
There were some impressive special effects like the highway chase and the exploding evil fortress at the end. There were also a few scenes in Italy.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on November 17, 2008, 01:22:58 AM
By the way, how the hell did this movie cost 200 million dollars?  Its reasonably short, has no expensive movie stars (Craig only got about 10 mil to be in it), and was largely shot in Chile (a cheap filmmaking country).  Where did the money go?
There were some impressive special effects like the highway chase and the exploding evil fortress at the end. There were also a few scenes in Italy.

They filmed it in a shitton of places, and a lot of the set pieces (private jets and shit) were probably super expensive. And all of the CGI. Also, because of all these factors, it probably had an enormous crew. Just a few guesses.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 17, 2008, 01:27:45 AM
yeah, the part with the C-47 probably wasn't easy.  A lot of blockbuster movies have bloated budgets which makes it sound nearly impressive that it only cost $200 million.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Tundra on November 18, 2008, 06:20:44 AM
After watching QoS yesterday with the lowest of expectations, I am left wondering now, what kind of movie people were expecting with it.

It was a solid action movie, was Bondmovie enough for me, but thankfully not having the usual Bond shitty themes like Q and his shitty gimmicks, skiraces with machineguns etc.

I like the direction the Bondmovies are going.


And Craig is the best Bond i can imagine.


QoS is rating 7.5 - 8.0 for me...

Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Cheebs on November 18, 2008, 10:12:14 AM
The movie was not some horriblely bad moonraker/a view to a kill/die another day type of film but compared to Casino Royale it was disappointing. A mid-level Bond film like GoldenEye I think.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Tundra on November 18, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
The movie was not some horriblely bad moonraker/a view to a kill/die another day type of film but compared to Casino Royale it was disappointing. A mid-level Bond film like GoldenEye I think.

Exactly...
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 20, 2008, 06:48:32 AM
saw it today

loved it, way the fuck better than distinguished mentally-challenged Casino Royale

I hope they keep making more Bond movies like this one
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on November 20, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
I liked it.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 20, 2008, 08:46:25 PM
MUCH better the second time around, holy fuck. Its still got shitty action scenes, and is nowhere near CR, but I really loved it this time.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2008, 08:48:48 PM
saw it today

loved it, way the fuck better than distinguished mentally-challenged Casino Royale

I hope they keep making more Bond movies like this one

and you love Bourne right? Hm, I might see it now
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 21, 2008, 01:43:18 AM
MUCH better the second time around, holy fuck. Its still got shitty action scenes, and is nowhere near CR, but I really loved it this time.

Haha, you're peculiar.  Every movie I've seen you talk about, you always need two or three more viewings to settle on an opinion.

I'm not ragging on you, I just think it's interesting.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 21, 2008, 01:50:42 AM
saw it today

loved it, way the fuck better than distinguished mentally-challenged Casino Royale

I hope they keep making more Bond movies like this one

and you love Bourne right? Hm, I might see it now

yup, Bourne > Bond

had a funny conversation at dinner tonight

me: I really liked Quantum of Solace because it wasn't like a normal Bond movie
guy: Yeah, I didn't like it because it wasn't enough like a Bond movie
me: I think I see the problem here
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Solo on November 21, 2008, 09:08:28 AM
MUCH better the second time around, holy fuck. Its still got shitty action scenes, and is nowhere near CR, but I really loved it this time.

Haha, you're peculiar.  Every movie I've seen you talk about, you always need two or three more viewings to settle on an opinion.

I'm not ragging on you, I just think it's interesting.

No offense taken - its true. The first viewing of one of these big, hyped releases is often disappointment-sauce for me. Once Ive chilled out and just watch it for what it is, Ill often enjoy it lots more. Its my own fault for being a tard and hyping myself up, really.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 23, 2008, 12:02:46 AM
I liked it but I'm also not a Bond enthusiast (I also liked Casino Royale). God, I think I was more attracted to the main Bond girl and the secondary one (Ms.Fields) more than any other Bond girls. Both of them were stunning.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2008, 12:15:08 AM
Oh God I knowwww that girl was incredible looking.  Those lips :drool
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Cheebs on November 23, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
All the Bond girls in the Craig movies have been fantastic. I wish we saw more of Strawberry Fields though she was really cute. Olga though, just in pure looks is the best looking Bond girl in a LONG time. Hot.


And PD like I told you, you'd like this movie more than me. See it.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Mandark on November 23, 2008, 12:59:34 AM
They should just cast Tim Curry as the next Bond.

or woody allen

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 23, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
So the main girl is the same girl from Hitman? God, no wonder, I was intensely attracted to her in Hitman too.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 23, 2008, 08:19:14 PM
So the main girl is the same girl from Hitman? God, no wonder, I was intensely attracted to her in Hitman too.

wait, I heard Hitman had gratuitous nudity. is she naked in Hitman?
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 23, 2008, 08:33:47 PM
So the main girl is the same girl from Hitman? God, no wonder, I was intensely attracted to her in Hitman too.

wait, I heard Hitman had gratuitous nudity. is she naked in Hitman?

Yes, topless and some hot foreplay/tease scenes (If I remember correctly, one where she states she isn't wearing any panties). Lots of totally "omg" moments considering how freakin hot she is.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2008, 09:11:38 PM
egotastic also has completely nudie pics of her as well
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2008, 02:22:36 AM
Casino Royale is so much better than this boring movie.  You can tell they were really reaching to find a good action scene when they had an one foot chase, in car chase, boat chase, and plane chase with each one failing to be interesting more than the last.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on December 11, 2008, 02:33:30 AM
Anything's better than watching bond parkour.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: ch1nchilla on December 11, 2008, 02:36:52 AM
Anything's better than watching bond parkour.

I'd say it was more Bond being a badass and pillaging through walls and shit than "parkour." That's what the other dude was doing. I guess I just don't understand your hatred for Casino Royale at all...
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2008, 02:43:29 AM
yeah, that chase scene in Casino Royale was hilarious because you had this thin dude running around while Bond bust through a wall and flexed before trotting on.  Here it's like...uh, they're doing ballet on ropes or some shit and surviving huge falls just because.
Title: Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
Post by: brawndolicious on December 11, 2008, 02:46:17 AM
I'd say it was more Bond being a badass and pillaging through walls and shit than "parkour." That's what the other dude was doing. I guess I just don't understand your hatred for Casino Royale at all...
The chase sequence wasn't that bad but the movie totally lost my interest by the poker scene.  CS was trying too hard to look like a smart spy movie when the last 20 bond movies were only about sex and explosions.  In that order.  Even compared to any other spy franchise, CS just wasn't that interesting of a movie to me.