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Title: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Beardo on November 20, 2008, 12:41:46 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-11-17-playing-gods-game_N.htm?csp=34 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-11-17-playing-gods-game_N.htm?csp=34)
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Playing Gods' satirizes religious violence

Wholesale slaughter of innocents is nothing new in games — board or online — where players adopt godlike figures to whack others along their way to victory. But a new board game replaces ancient gods or invented goddesses with game characters from major religions of the modern world. Playing Gods: The Board Game of Divine Domination bills itself as "the world's first satirical board game of religious warfare."

FAITH & REASON: What gamers are saying about 'Playing Gods'
Three-inch plastic figurines include Jesus bashing people with a cross, Moses slugging away with the tablets of the Ten Commandments, the Buddha with a machine gun, and a turbaned fellow with a bomb and a dagger vaguely hinting at Mohammed, all to be set loose to "force the people of the world to worship you." The game was introduced in September at DragonCon, the annual pop culture, fantasy and science fiction convention in Atlanta, where it caught on with "religious folks with a sense of humor" as well as skeptics, says its creator, Ben Radford, 38, of Rio Rancho, N.M., managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer magazine.

Radford says "much of the world's violence is rooted in religion," so he thought directly mocking various images of God and religious followers would "make more social commentary" and "pierce the pretensions of extremist religious zealotry with humor." Players can choose among the five figurines or make one for themselves with stickers for a "god" who resembles Oprah, a stein of beer or Satan or add a word label such as Islam, technology, even "the Almighty Dollar." Says Radford, "I didn't want to leave out a Muslim figure just because it might be offensive. The game is satire. But I went out of my way to be innocuous. The figure is not named. It could be any Muslim leader.

The figurines move across a global game board drawing cards that promise wrath with natural disasters or woo converts with kindness or cleverness. Colored chips represent each god's sects or followers. A typical steely grey wrath card would "Bring down the Darkness: Kill two sects," while a sunny yellow conversion card recalls Elijah's showdown with a priest of Baal in the Bible (1 Kings 18:38). "Another god's follower challenges you to prove you exist; you fry him with lightening in front of a crowd. Gain one sect."

But just like sexy magazines on a family news stand, the most potentially offensive cards come in a separate wrapper.

"Overemphasis on guilt drives millions to depression and suicide. Kill three Christian sects," it says under the image of the wrathful Jesus. "Endless 'War on Terror' provides terrorist job stability. Gain three Muslim sects," says a card with the Middle Eastern bomb thrower image. Still, Radford argues, Playing Gods is a statement of peace, "not anti-religion. It's anti-zealot, anti- people who kill for their beliefs, whatever those are." The way to win the game, however, is by a combination of killing and conversion. "I have to be honest with you: Killing is very popular. When people become Gods, they like laying down the locusts and the other Old Testament plagues," says Radford.

In that respect, Playing Gods resembles the video game tradition it emulates — fantasy violence for entertainment, says Carl Raschke, professor of religious studies at University of Denver. The game's perspective "has no basis in historical reality and doesn't actually represent any religion. It just appeals to people who hate religion to begin with — the hip subculture of militant popular atheists," says Raschke.

"These people are fanatics, for the most part, themselves. Their thinking is rigid and hostile and not much different from jihadists who don't use their minds or study what they are dealing with. They start from their own dogmatic perspective." Offensive? Says Raschke, "Of course it is. But it sounds too stupid to go far." The $39.99 game is available online and in independent game stores but, Radford acknowledges, "the big chain stores aren't going to touch a game like this."


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Himuro please dont kill us.
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Title: Re: This board game will surly destroy the world.
Post by: TVC15 on November 20, 2008, 12:43:29 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!  MINE!
Title: Re: This board game will surly destroy the world.
Post by: Beardo on November 20, 2008, 12:44:26 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!  MINE!

 :shh
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The game sucks
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Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Bloodwake on November 20, 2008, 12:46:03 PM
This is perhaps the best board game ever made.

Purchase confirmed.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: muckhole on November 20, 2008, 12:46:13 PM
 :lol Where do you find all these awesome games, Beardo?

:shh
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The game sucks
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Awwww
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Eric P on November 20, 2008, 12:52:16 PM
i just want it for the plastic figures.

which is what i am guessing most people want it for.

Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Robo on November 20, 2008, 12:52:53 PM
M.U.S.C.L.E. didn't destroy the world, so I think we're safe from board games.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Beardo on November 20, 2008, 12:55:11 PM
M.U.S.C.L.E. didn't destroy the world, so I think we're safe from board games.

I dont know, I bet jinfish and Himuro are plotting right now to bring the western world to its knees. Probably using the plastic figures from the game!
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Brehvolution on November 20, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
Is that buddha....... with a mini gun? :lol
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: E-DuB on November 20, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
Is that buddha....... with a mini gun? :lol


That's a selling point! This looks fuck-awesome
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Bloodwake on November 20, 2008, 01:43:21 PM
Is that buddha....... with a mini gun? :lol

YES IT IS
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Ganhyun on November 20, 2008, 02:03:40 PM
Awesomeness this is.

Or could be.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2008, 02:29:11 PM
Where can I get these board pieces :lol
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 20, 2008, 02:50:07 PM
There's a long tradition of assassins from the Middle-East- in fact the word "assassin" itself I believe is derived from a society created by noted madman Hassan i Sabbah.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Tauntaun on November 20, 2008, 03:13:04 PM
Dude pussed out on muhammad piece,  taco confirmed. 
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Beardo on November 20, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
Dude pussed out on muhammad piece,  distinguished effete fellow confirmed. 

What are you talking about. They got Muhammad down perfectly.


(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/beardoisweardo/muhamad.jpg)
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Ganhyun on November 20, 2008, 03:26:10 PM
Dude pussed out on muhammad piece,  distinguished effete fellow confirmed. 

What are you talking about. They got Muhammad down perfectly.


(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/beardoisweardo/muhamad.jpg)


But they don't say it is Muhammad.  They say it could/is some random Muslim. If he did call it Muhammad, alot of Muslims would come after the game and him like they did that Danish cartoonist.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Tauntaun on November 20, 2008, 03:32:11 PM
But they don't say it is Muhammad.  They say it could/is some random Muslim. If he did call it Muhammad, alot of Muslims would come after the game and him like they did that Danish cartoonist.

Zackly,  plus that dude looks like a ninja or something.   ::)  Pussy.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: brawndolicious on November 20, 2008, 08:54:20 PM
In Islam, it is forbidden to make pictures or sculptures of Mohammad as that would encourage idolatry.  This is probably why the artist decided to just cover his face with a turban thing since no one knows what he looks like.  Even Muslim religious paintings and movies show him with a scarf over his face.  I think that any Muslim will instantly notice this about the sculpture, but not get angry.

I'm more pissed off about the Christ piece as it just looks like a hobo.
There's a long tradition of assassins from the Middle-East- in fact the word "assassin" itself I believe is derived from a society created by noted madman Hassan i Sabbah.
The word "assassin" comes from the word "hashishi" (it's hard to write the arabic pronunciation in English), which means a person who smokes hash....of course.

They were an assassin group that I believe worked for the Syrian king and they would smoke hash for divine power or something, before their missions.  They did two missions against Saladin (enemy of the Syrian king).  In the first mission, Saladin was laying siege to a Syrian city and they got right into his tent and just left a death threat on his table.  The second time, the assassin got caught by Saladin and then he ran away.  Still scared the crap out of Saladin.

I heard that the Assassin's Creed game was based on them.  Very loosely based on them.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2008, 09:03:50 PM
Dude pussed out on muhammad piece,  distinguished effete fellow confirmed. 

What are you talking about. They got Muhammad down perfectly.


(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/beardoisweardo/muhamad.jpg)


Explosion or circumcision, make your choice
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 20, 2008, 09:08:48 PM
Dude pussed out on muhammad piece,  distinguished effete fellow confirmed. 

What are you talking about. They got Muhammad down perfectly.


(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/beardoisweardo/muhamad.jpg)


Did you even read the article you posted?
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: TVC15 on November 21, 2008, 01:51:37 AM
There's a long tradition of assassins from the Middle-East- in fact the word "assassin" itself I believe is derived from a society created by noted madman Hassan i Sabbah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin

Even more interesting:  the words "assassin" and "hasish" have the same origin.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Bebpo on November 21, 2008, 02:12:22 AM
There's a long tradition of assassins from the Middle-East- in fact the word "assassin" itself I believe is derived from a society created by noted madman Hassan i Sabbah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin

Even more interesting:  the words "assassin" and "hasish" have the same origin.

Wait, was this the group that you played as in Assassin's Creed?  Because reading that it sure sounds like the AC team copied all there stuff out of that article.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Fresh Prince on November 21, 2008, 02:17:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin
Even more interesting:  the words "assassin" and "hasish" have the same origin.

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The power of the Hashshashin was destroyed by the Mongol warlord Hulagu Khan, but several Ismaili sects share something of a common lineage. During the Mongol assault of Alamut on 1256 December 15, the library of the sect was destroyed, along with much of their power base, and thus much of the sect's own records were lost; most accounts of them stem from the highly reputable Arab historians of the period
Mongols isn't there anything they can't do?  :-*
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: TVC15 on November 21, 2008, 02:21:50 AM
There's a long tradition of assassins from the Middle-East- in fact the word "assassin" itself I believe is derived from a society created by noted madman Hassan i Sabbah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin

Even more interesting:  the words "assassin" and "hasish" have the same origin.

Wait, was this the group that you played as in Assassin's Creed?  Because reading that it sure sounds like the AC team copied all there stuff out of that article.

It was a copy.  Recall in Assassin's Creed they removed all mentions of religious groups and whatnot.  Also, The Assassins were generally just as (if not more) concerned with killing opponents of their own religion rather than the invading Christians.  But yeah, in the back of the major assassin keep of AC, there's even a sort of version of the "garden."

It's an interesting little part of history.  I liked reading up on it a lot.  I <3 Crusades shit.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: brawndolicious on November 21, 2008, 02:53:03 AM
They were apparently muslims with really weird beliefs (hash for instance).  They allied with christians sometimes because of this and as I mentioned above, it is believed that they may have allied with the Syrian king whom they disliked when they set out to kill Saladin (which obviously failed).  It's too bad that we don't have more information on the crazy bastards.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 21, 2008, 03:02:14 AM
Is that buddha....... with a mini gun? :lol

Ain't got time for bodhi!
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: muckhole on November 21, 2008, 11:37:15 AM
And for god's sake it's Jinfaaaash :lol

I ain't no fish.

Sometimes Jinflash. And now, sometimes Jinflish.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: Tauntaun on November 21, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
And for god's sake it's Jinfaaaash :lol

I ain't no fish.

Sometimes Jinflash. And now, sometimes Jinflish.

What about Jinflesh?  Like a Jinfash fleshlight?   :hump
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: muckhole on November 21, 2008, 12:10:34 PM
It's a slow but steady evolution.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 22, 2008, 02:33:25 PM
(http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Matt/jesus-is-a-pretty-bad-backseat-driver-too.png)
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: The Sceneman on November 23, 2008, 02:56:44 AM
Where can I get these board pieces :lol

ummm, buy the game?
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: drozmight on November 23, 2008, 06:15:42 AM
Lets make a board game about hashish smoken persian assatisins.
Title: Re: This board game will surely destroy the world.
Post by: brawndolicious on November 23, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
They should have had an "Almight Dollar" figurine that looked like John Cusack.