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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Tieno on November 23, 2008, 02:43:20 AM

Title: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Tieno on November 23, 2008, 02:43:20 AM
I was watching an It's Always Sunny episode last night and it came up there and now I wonder.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 23, 2008, 02:44:10 AM
Depends on jew you talk jew.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 02:47:13 AM
only by those who still refer to black people as African-Americans
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Tieno on November 23, 2008, 02:51:55 AM
Ok, it's weird to think how a name for a people can have/get negative connotations.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: TVC15 on November 23, 2008, 03:15:32 AM
I was watching an It's Always Sunny episode last night and it came up there and now I wonder.


The thing is, in most scenarios that would call for legitimate use of the word "Jew," "Jewish" could be easily substituted with little to no modification of the statement.  "Jewish" sounds softer and more worldly, whereas "Jew" has the short terseness of a four-letter word.  I guess the goddamned jews just wanted to pick a name that would make it easier for them to convince people they were being victimized or something.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 03:23:43 AM
adding '-ish' to the end of anything makes it softer
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: TVC15 on November 23, 2008, 03:27:43 AM
But "Arabic" sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 03:28:29 AM
Arabkadabra would be an awesome movie title
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: TVC15 on November 23, 2008, 03:31:31 AM
It would have to be a rom-com.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 03:33:29 AM
between a religious guy and an atheist girl
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Fresh Prince on November 23, 2008, 03:56:24 AM
It's like 'gay' depends on the context ie when someone is being cheap, stupid etc.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: laesperanzapaz on November 23, 2008, 03:56:39 AM
'caucasian' is the absolute worst

teh correct terminology is crackers, you liberal PC idiots
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 23, 2008, 04:19:57 AM
I would guess that most black people would get pissed off at getting called African-American unless they have a parent or maybe a grandparent who was born and raised in Africa.  The hyphen doesn't really make sense unless you can both speak a foreign language and actually care what is happening in that country/continent.

For Jews, they're a religion actually..

I am not sure but I think that there is a requirement that the mother be Jewish which would make their be less racial diversity in the religion but still too broad.  As a religious insult, who cares?  EVERYBODY insults at least a few religions in public without giving a shit.

In order for a word for a group of people to be used as an insult, it has to be a group that people fear.  N**ger was an insult because people were scared of black men stealing white women and "gay" became an insult because people were scared of gays destroying marriage (which means seducing children and spreading AIDS).  I'm trying but I can't think of a time in history when people were afraid of Jews.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: TVC15 on November 23, 2008, 04:21:26 AM
For Jews, they're a religion actually..

I am not sure but I think that there is a requirement that the mother be Jewish which would make their be less racial diversity in the religion but still too broad.  As a religious insult, who cares?  EVERYBODY insults at least a few religions in public without giving a shit.

There's at least one brand of Judaism that doesn't have the mother rule.  I want to say reform judaism?  I am sure they are looked down upon by the real OG bludd jews.

Actually, from some quick wiki-ing that may not be correct, it seems converting to judaism is more accepted than I thought:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: brawndolicious on November 23, 2008, 04:25:46 AM
Some Jews are really flexible with their beliefs but I'm pretty sure that the mother rule has been common enough throughout history to make race pretty consistent among Jews.

Actually, that article sort of disproves what I thought.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Enl on November 23, 2008, 04:40:07 AM
adding '-ish' to the end of anything makes it softer

hmm...

nigrish
japish
fagish
cuntish


It's like putting flowers on some thorns.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: TVC15 on November 23, 2008, 04:42:57 AM
It's like 'gay' depends on the context ie when someone is being cheap, stupid etc.

seriously? how did it come to this?

Ok so I misread that and thought you were saying that "Jew" = "gay" in some contexts.

smh Jin

I am not sure but I think that there is a requirement that the mother be Jewish which would make their be less racial diversity in the religion but still too broad.

There's at least one brand of Judaism that doesn't have the mother rule.

What's the "mother's rule"?

That your mother has to be jewish for you to be jewish.  It's a whole bloodline thing, but it's apparently not so true.  Oddly enough, I know I've had this idea reinforced by a real life jew friend (that is also a cool goth chick).

I'm going to find me a rabbi tomorrow and see if he'll make me a jew for purposes of trolling himuro. If trolling some schmuck on the internet isn't a good reason for conversion, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 23, 2008, 08:41:40 AM
What the fuck, of course not!?
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: tiesto on November 23, 2008, 09:57:19 AM
How about "Jewry" or "attractive Jewish woman"... Jew is used very commonly around the uber-Jewish Island, by both Jews and Gentiles, so no it's not racist.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: tiesto on November 23, 2008, 10:19:17 AM
What would the racial slur of Arabs or Muslims be? is there one I don't know of? (hope it's something cool)

Towelheads? Ragheads? Cameljockeys? Terrorists? Dune Coons?
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 23, 2008, 10:57:23 AM
For Jews, they're a religion actually..

I am not sure but I think that there is a requirement that the mother be Jewish which would make their be less racial diversity in the religion but still too broad.  As a religious insult, who cares?  EVERYBODY insults at least a few religions in public without giving a shit.

There's at least one brand of Judaism that doesn't have the mother rule.  I want to say reform judaism?  I am sure they are looked down upon by the real OG bludd jews.

Actually, from some quick wiki-ing that may not be correct, it seems converting to judaism is more accepted than I thought:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

yep, that's reform judaism.  that's me!  rather, I had a bar mitzvah, but I ceased to be jewish after that day :lol
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: Beezy on November 23, 2008, 11:07:50 AM
That's another question I have, is it ok to say "black people"?
Seriously? Yes.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 12:00:38 PM
What would the racial slur of Arabs or Muslims be? is there one I don't know of? (hope it's something cool)

The racial slur for Arab would be Arab (more said like A-rab), at least in the states.
Title: Re: Is "jew" a racial slur?
Post by: thekavorka on November 23, 2008, 12:19:38 PM
it depends on the context

if there's someone (non-jewish) who acts really stingy or something, and you say "you're such a jew", that could be considered offensive