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Title: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2008, 12:34:08 AM
CT ds comes out tomorrow. CT is my favorite 16 bit rpg and mos def top 5 jrpg material imho. I am going to cum on that cartridge when I get it.

Who else is getting this?

Let's celebrate!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KPFJZekfUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyuo3Psmdw0

:bow frameskip animated intros :bow2
:bow Mitsuda :bow2
:bow Dream team: Sakaguchi, Kitase, Horii, Mitsuda, Toriyama :bow2
:bow Nintendo ds :bow2
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Vizzys on November 25, 2008, 12:41:38 AM
the music is still some of the best ever and the ds plays it surprisingly well
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: BlackMage on November 25, 2008, 12:42:34 AM
::looks up::
::continues to play his snes emulator::

suckers...
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2008, 12:42:38 AM
omfg

CT's music

:hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: littlemathletics on November 25, 2008, 12:44:53 AM
How much for your semen stained cartridge?  :-*
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Vizzys on November 25, 2008, 12:45:08 AM
omfg

CT's music

:hyper :hyper :hyper

I noticed they are using the second battle theme that was on the snes cart but not used too, in this version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNgY_Rvsg0
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2008, 12:49:09 AM
omfg

CT's music

:hyper :hyper :hyper

I noticed they are using the second battle theme that was on the snes cart but not used too, in this version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNgY_Rvsg0

that's fucking badass
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: bork on November 25, 2008, 02:38:09 AM
Got it last week.  It has issues with blurring on the DS screen.  Kinda sucks but still quite playable.  You cannot see some of the detail that you would be able to on a TV or higher-res screen though.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: FatalT on November 25, 2008, 02:48:31 AM
I just got Robo. :D
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 25, 2008, 04:30:28 AM
omfg

CT's music

:hyper :hyper :hyper

I noticed they are using the second battle theme that was on the snes cart but not used too, in this version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNgY_Rvsg0
Wait, what? I've just played the first 30 minutes or so but I only heard the normal theme in battles.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: tiesto on November 25, 2008, 04:22:41 AM
Can't wait for this! I got all the endings back in the day, now it's time to try for the new one. Happy to hear the music translated over to the DS well, CT is my favorite game soundtrack of all time.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Vizzys on November 25, 2008, 12:35:49 PM
omfg

CT's music

:hyper :hyper :hyper

I noticed they are using the second battle theme that was on the snes cart but not used too, in this version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNgY_Rvsg0
Wait, what? I've just played the first 30 minutes or so but I only heard the normal theme in battles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9MbCWJDPRQ&feature=related

maybe its during this optional stuff only? (some random video)
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 25, 2008, 12:52:42 PM
At least you dont love Mother 3
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2008, 01:24:45 PM
No, the game is pretty simple battle wise. But there's a few tricky battles like the battle against
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spekkio
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I just picked the game up from Game Crazy. I'm going to play the beginning part just to test it out.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on November 25, 2008, 09:59:37 AM
:bow Dream team: Sakaguchi, Kitase, Horii, Mitsuda, Toriyama :bow2

There were also a few no-names on CT's "dream team" back then that have now become prolific RPG developers, like Masato Kato and Tetsuya Nomura. Mitsuda didn't really even have a name for himself before he composed for Trigger. Uematsu also composed a few tracks for the game...

I really don't think there's ever been such a prolific development team for a game since Chrono Trigger, the "dream team" still impresses me to this day. The fact that there were so many big names developing the game, as well as no-names that would become immensely popular over time (Nomura is arguably the most popular RPG dude today, yet he was only a background artist for Trigger), blows my mind.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2008, 10:17:29 AM
:bow Dream team: Sakaguchi, Kitase, Horii, Mitsuda, Toriyama :bow2

There were also a few no-names on CT's "dream team" back then that have now become prolific RPG developers, like Masato Kato and Tetsuya Nomura. Mitsuda didn't really even have a name for himself before he composed for Trigger. Uematsu also composed a few tracks for the game...

I really don't think there's ever been such a prolific development team for a game since Chrono Trigger, the "dream team" still impresses me to this day. The fact that there were so many big names developing the game, as well as no-names that would become immensely popular over time (Nomura is arguably the most popular RPG dude today, yet he was only a background artist for Trigger), blows my mind.

:bow Chrono Trigger :bow2
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Jansen on November 26, 2008, 12:11:11 AM
what in the fuck is up with the blurring and scanlines? another half assed port by s-e for $40 fucking dollars no less
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 27, 2008, 07:48:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9MbCWJDPRQ&feature=related

maybe its during this optional stuff only? (some random video)
Ohh, okay, that's for the new Arena battles.

what in the fuck is up with the blurring and scanlines? another half assed port by s-e for $40 fucking dollars no less
Is it really that noticeable? I haven't seen anything yet (~30 minutes past the factory portion with Robo), but I might just be blind.

ps, this is why I have a flashcart lol
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2008, 01:43:43 PM
Jinfash I'm glad you're enjoying it. Just wait till you get to the prehistoric ages. Best time period ever.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Grecco on November 27, 2008, 01:47:31 PM
Embarrased to say as the re :-*sident CT fanboy I did not buy this at launch

(Im going on a trip next month and want to save it for then)
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2008, 01:53:11 PM
I am a bigger CT fan than you

let's go
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Grecco on November 27, 2008, 02:16:03 PM
Nya uh
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: bork on November 27, 2008, 02:20:30 PM
Grecco has a Chrono Trigger avatar. 

Grecco WINS.

Grecco > Duck Amuck
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Jansen on November 27, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
Is it really that noticeable?

the scanlines? no they're not really that noticeable. i can only see them when moving up or down. but the blurring sure as hell is.

you would have to be damn near blind not to notice the blurring.

s-e can take their tax and shove it up their asses when they halfass shit like they did here.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2008, 11:27:18 PM
65,000,000 bc is the best time period ever
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 08:01:41 AM
:bow http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=320574 :bow2
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 28, 2008, 08:03:53 AM
"Is the chance to play with time gaming's greatest gift to players?"

what does this mean
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 08:14:27 AM
i dunno
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: littlemathletics on November 28, 2008, 08:28:09 AM
Means they need to edit shit better.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 28, 2008, 08:32:46 AM
I was referring to them comparing CT to Braid and Prince of Persia and GRID which is completely wrong and off-base
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: littlemathletics on November 28, 2008, 08:33:38 AM
Still a badly composed sentence.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 28, 2008, 08:34:10 AM
Himuro's so stupid
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 08:35:35 AM
I don't even know why they brought up braid of prince of persia but who cares, CT rox
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 28, 2008, 09:22:07 AM
Prince of Persia plays itself, Jonathan Blow didn't consider the idea that rewinding and fast forwarding is fucking annoying, so lets Chrono Trigger!   

not sure when I'll pick this up.  fuck S-E for charging $40 for a DS port.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 09:09:43 PM
a lil bit ya
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: littlemathletics on November 28, 2008, 09:20:23 PM
Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
It's not a traditional rpg by any means. It's a text adventure. I wouldn't even call it a "game".
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: littlemathletics on November 28, 2008, 09:31:57 PM
I'm pretty okay with text adventures, for the most part. Might give it a shot sometime.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 28, 2008, 10:03:57 PM
that Eurogamer review of CT is kind of irritating.  "I've come to dislike JRPGs for dumb arbitrary trend-conformism reasons, but I still like this one for dumb arbitrary nostalgia reasons.  What a dilemma! Guess I'll have to make up a bunch of bullshit reasons why this DQ-flavored take on the SNES FF formula with a slight twist is totally different from all other JRPGs!"
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
haha

the part that got me lol'ing was the part where he said CT didn't fit the definition of a jrpg or didn't feel like a jrpg or whatever
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 28, 2008, 11:00:36 PM
definitely getting it once the price drops
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 06:57:49 PM
There's colored treasure chests that you can get early, but if you ignore them and get them later in the future, they contain better equipment.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 29, 2008, 07:45:52 PM
pretty sure your friend is full of shit, Jinfash.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 07:47:23 PM
Magus joining is pretty much a choice you make. You either let him join, or you fight and kill him.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 02, 2008, 03:46:55 PM
Well, the new content officially sucks.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: dammitmattt on December 02, 2008, 04:08:59 PM
There's colored treasure chests that you can get early, but if you ignore them and get them later in the future, they contain better equipment.

ah shit... ._.

EDIT: describe them more? how they differ from regular ones (their color?)

It's pretty damn easy to spot them because you can't open them until later in the game.  They're black and have something that looks kind of like an open mouth with sharp teeth on them, for a lack of a better description.

ProTip - open them in 1000 AD to get the better items and then go back to 600 AD and open them again to double up on the rewards (though the items won't be quite as good the second time around).
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 02, 2008, 04:52:33 PM
If I remember right you're supposed to unlock them in 600 AD before you open them in 1000, though. But maybe I'm wrong. That's how I always did it.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: dammitmattt on December 02, 2008, 05:00:37 PM
If I remember right you're supposed to unlock them in 600 AD before you open them in 1000, though. But maybe I'm wrong. That's how I always did it.

I'm 99.9% sure that if you open them in 600 AD, they will be gone in 1000 AD.  After all, that's how time works.

I could be embarrassingly wrong, though  :-\
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2008, 05:14:07 PM
There's colored treasure chests that you can get early, but if you ignore them and get them later in the future, they contain better equipment.

ah shit... ._.

EDIT: describe them more? how they differ from regular ones (their color?)

It's pretty damn easy to spot them because you can't open them until later in the game.  They're black and have something that looks kind of like an open mouth with sharp teeth on them, for a lack of a better description.

ProTip - open them in 1000 AD to get the better items and then go back to 600 AD and open them again to double up on the rewards (though the items won't be quite as good the second time around).

you mean the black chests that makes the music when you try to open em? I forgot about that. It's definitely 1000 AD first, 600 AD second.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 02, 2008, 05:19:22 PM
If I remember right you're supposed to unlock them in 600 AD before you open them in 1000, though. But maybe I'm wrong. That's how I always did it.

I'm 99.9% sure that if you open them in 600 AD, they will be gone in 1000 AD.  After all, that's how time works.

I could be embarrassingly wrong, though  :-\
No I know that, but in 600 AD the first time you hit A standing next to a box it unlocks it and asks you if you would like to take the item; you say no, then go to 1000 AD and open it up. But again, I don't even remember if that is necessary or not, maybe you can just open it up in 1000 AD.This was my first play through in about 10 years. A quick look at GameFAQs would probably yield the answer, but I'm lazy.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
this is my first time playing CT in about 6 years so I don't remember shit about the tiny details.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: dammitmattt on December 02, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
No I know that, but in 600 AD the first time you hit A standing next to a box it unlocks it and asks you if you would like to take the item; you say no, then go to 1000 AD and open it up. But again, I don't even remember if that is necessary or not, maybe you can just open it up in 1000 AD.This was my first play through in about 10 years. A quick look at GameFAQs would probably yield the answer, but I'm lazy.

This sounds right.  I'd check it if it wasn't blocked.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 02, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
Quote
One final general rule for sealed chests is that the ones which occur both in 600 A.D. and 1000 A.D. can be received twice, once, or twice with an upgraded form. If you open a chest in 600 A.D., you'll get the item but it won't appear in 1000 A.D. If you open a chest in 1000 A.D., you'll get its item and you can open it in 600 A.D. as well. However, if you try to open a chest in 600 A.D. and select "no" when asked if you want to open it, then try to open it in 1000 A.D. the item inside the chest will upgrade into a more powerful form. You can also then go back and get the non-upgraded item in 600 A.D. In general therefore, you should access every chest you might want to open in 600 A.D. first, get its upgraded form in 1000 A.D., then go back to get its non-upgraded form in 600 A.D. Also please note that some chests only show up in one time period, and hence have no upgradeable form.
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger/Sealed_chests

Now I don't feel stupid for doing that
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 05, 2008, 02:33:14 AM
This game hurts my eyes.  something about that blur when you run.   :-\
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 05, 2008, 05:10:57 AM
- The Black Omen just appeared, how far am I from the end-game and should I start doing sidequests. Also, from which era should I visit it from?

- Motherbrain, the dragon of reptites in the ruins, and the boss in the sun temple (all optional I think) have handed me my ass... should I grind for levels, use certain strategies or come in another time or does it have something to do with a newgame+?

-The only thing left to do for the main story is
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revive Crono
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which doesn't really take more than 30-45 minutes from when the Black Omen appears. You can start doing all the sidequests now. I usually save the Black Omen for last. It can be a little difficult if you aren't a decent level.

-What level are you? I did the sidequests in the order the old man said them, so I might have had extra levels on you, because I don't remember having any trouble at all with those. I don't even remember the Dust Tyrano attacking me lol. I don't know what characters you use, but I pretty much just used Ayla, Crono, and Marle on every boss. I would give a golden stud to Crono and a silver stud to Marle, then have Marle haste my party while I spam Cat Attack and Frenzy (or Luminaire for the displays against Mother Brain). On the fire boss though, all you really need to do is equip all of your party with Ruby armor from the trading hut in 65M BC, and then have your characters attack all of the flames in a circle until you find the right one. If you attack the right one, you'll see the main boss take damage. The flames get shuffled every 5 turns or so.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 05, 2008, 06:36:04 AM
For the Golden Stud go back to the Trann Dome in 2300 AD and open up the sealed door. There's a few other sealed doors in the domes in 2300 AD but that is the most helpful thing, probably. Also, on the Crono situation, you might just be better off
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reviving him and getting that out of the way. You can still do the sidequests afterward, they don't ever force you to go straight to Lavos. That might help you with some of those bosses. He is required for most of the good double and triple techs, anyway.
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The only other good thing about haste is having Marle haste herself so that she can get in 2 heals in between a boss's turn.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2008, 08:40:39 AM
lmao @ the new content

it's awful
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2008, 08:58:11 AM
it's all post game. when you beat the game you can play a few new dungeons.
Title: Re: Official Chrono Trigger Evilbore ds thread
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 05, 2008, 10:03:10 AM
lmao @ the new content

it's awful

Lost Sanctum is the most tedious, boring bullshit in the entire game. The Dimensional Vortex is okay, but the bosses really suck.