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Title: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2008, 12:28:40 AM
Especially if you're about to do a playlist, and you're like,"Fuck I have to rename all of these songs because  I have OCD and I HATE 'Unknown Album'"

FUCK

It's even worse when they all have some RANDOM ASS ALBUM COVER and it's like wtf where did this even come from?
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 30, 2008, 12:31:14 AM
Yeah I hate that about iTunes too.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2008, 12:33:22 AM
Why is MP3 player software such shit.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 30, 2008, 01:04:47 AM
You can right click and have it 'find album info' and it usually works. Least 3 of the 4 times ive had the same situation.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 30, 2008, 01:11:11 AM
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Download it! Makes tagging so much easier.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2008, 01:31:09 AM
thanks for the tips
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
Why is MP3 player software such shit.

itunes is almost perfect *runs*
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: littlemathletics on November 30, 2008, 02:08:48 AM
Why is MP3 player software such shit.

itunes is almost perfect *runs*

On Mac at least. iTunes on Windows is still pretty unforgivably buggy.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: MCD on November 30, 2008, 11:19:31 AM
get foobar2000.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/29gl8k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Propagandhim on November 30, 2008, 11:39:38 AM
The later versions of Winamp have an autotagger which is right more often than not.  Right Click a group of songs -> Send To Auto-Tag.  It gets its info from an online database.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Ecrofirt on November 30, 2008, 04:08:47 PM
Winamp's autotagger is pretty awesome, though it has a tendency to add in tags I don't care about.

For stand-alone software, I prefer TagScanner: http://www.xdlab.ru/en/

It's a snap to use, and I like the interface.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 30, 2008, 04:36:00 PM
get foobar2000.

foobar :bow2

I still remember being shocked how fast the program would open after having used iTunes for 3 years.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
Why is MP3 player software such shit.

itunes is almost perfect *runs*

On Mac at least. iTunes on Windows is still pretty unforgivably buggy.


works about the same on both for me, but I rip most of my own music and only download tagged stuff.  Auto-sync and auto-sort handles everything.  I find Itunes goes crazy when people try to screw with a lot of settings and manually manage everything, which is a problem (for those people.)
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 01, 2008, 02:36:41 AM
get foobar2000.

foobar :bow2

I still remember being shocked how fast the program would open after having used iTunes for 3 years.

Yes, love it. I don't use playlists at all though - i just use the windows shell extension and browse folders in Explorer. Right-click to enqueue is all i ever use. I tried the various different views where it attempts to organize your files for you, but you still end up getting detoured into tag OCD (track order is quite frequently borked even with albums that are fine in iTunes). Not worth the effort anymore. I usually just delete and redownload something with proper tags - plain lazy but it works for me.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 01, 2008, 02:38:09 AM
You could probably also try the find album art/info option in the Zune software too.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 01, 2008, 03:12:18 AM
Yes, love it. I don't use playlists at all though - i just use the windows shell extension and browse folders in Explorer. Right-click to enqueue is all i ever use. I tried the various different views where it attempts to organize your files for you, but you still end up getting detoured into tag OCD (track order is quite frequently borked even with albums that are fine in iTunes). Not worth the effort anymore. I usually just delete and redownload something with proper tags - plain lazy but it works for me.

Mine looks like this: http://i33.tinypic.com/mii7tx.jpg I still liked the way I had my iTunes set up, so I basically copied it with Columns UI. Oh, and if your track order is incorrect, that's because of the file names. I don't know why, but foobar sorts album tracks alphabetically according to the file name by default, so if you don't have the track number before the title of the song it gets all fucked up.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 01, 2008, 03:38:48 AM
Yes, love it. I don't use playlists at all though - i just use the windows shell extension and browse folders in Explorer. Right-click to enqueue is all i ever use. I tried the various different views where it attempts to organize your files for you, but you still end up getting detoured into tag OCD (track order is quite frequently borked even with albums that are fine in iTunes). Not worth the effort anymore. I usually just delete and redownload something with proper tags - plain lazy but it works for me.

Mine looks like this: http://i33.tinypic.com/mii7tx.jpg I still liked the way I had my iTunes set up, so I basically copied it with Columns UI. Oh, and if your track order is incorrect, that's because of the file names. I don't know why, but foobar sorts album tracks alphabetically according to the file name by default, so if you don't have the track number before the title of the song it gets all fucked up.

I spent an evening trying to make it all look nice with colors and themes and stuff, but it only takes a few folders' of 'Various Artist' mp3s to really really profoundly fuck it all up. Thanks for the tip on the sorting; i'll have a look around for some option to turn it off. I could never figure it out 'cause it seems to happen with files with very anal tagging.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: MCD on December 01, 2008, 07:42:24 AM
get foobar2000.

foobar :bow2

I still remember being shocked how fast the program would open after having used iTunes for 3 years.

Yes, love it. I don't use playlists at all though - i just use the windows shell extension and browse folders in Explorer. Right-click to enqueue is all i ever use. I tried the various different views where it attempts to organize your files for you, but you still end up getting detoured into tag OCD (track order is quite frequently borked even with albums that are fine in iTunes). Not worth the effort anymore. I usually just delete and redownload something with proper tags - plain lazy but it works for me.
yeah, i don't use playlists, just add folders and be done with it.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 01, 2008, 03:17:06 PM
I just wish there were better taggers for the Mac :-\

I don't understand why Macs don't have a good tagging app yet, you would think someone would have ported a good Windows based app over. The app I had linked too is sweet.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: chronovore on December 01, 2008, 08:15:23 PM
Groo, yeah, I hate it when I lose my tagging and stuff; surprisingly it's the worst part about a hard disk crash, anymore.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on December 01, 2008, 08:39:48 PM
I've had some amount of luck with Tag&Rename. (http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm) MP3Tag is also a pretty neat piece of software.
Title: Re: Zune owners: "Unknown Album" is the worst thing ever
Post by: BobbyRobby on December 01, 2008, 10:53:28 PM
the tagging of my mp3s is one of the few things in my life that I'm on top of