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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 14, 2008, 05:05:44 PM

Title: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 14, 2008, 05:05:44 PM
The Genesis Sonic thread inspired me to play some Genesis and when I pressed the power button nothing happened. :(

Should I get a Model 1, 2, or 3 Genesis to replace it? I have (or had I guess) a Model 2.

Also, should I get a 6-button controller? I'm not a huge fan of fighting games so I don't really need one...
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 05:09:46 PM
1 or 2. Don't get a Model 3.

http://www.sega-16.com/feature_page.php?id=299&title=The%20Many%20Faces%20of%20Genesis:%20Model%201

I would also get a 6-button controller. They're smaller and more comfortable to hold.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: DJ_Tet on December 14, 2008, 07:45:26 PM
The 6 button controller is far superior to the original Genesis batarang.  The d-pad and the buttons feel more responsive, and the whole pad fits in your mitts better.  I rarely used the 6 button aspect of the controller, but it still ranks as my favorite 'pad.'

Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2008, 07:51:02 PM
Actually, what you need to get is the JVC X'Eye:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/xeye1.jpg)

It plays Genesis and Sega CD games and is really reliable, and it's an officially licensed console so don't worry about that. They're a bit harder to find though.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 14, 2008, 07:53:23 PM
Get the Model 1 so you can build the Genesis I Rocketship, with the Sega-CD on bottom, 32X on top, and then Sonic 3 + Knuckles to top it off.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 07:55:30 PM
Actually, what you need to get is the JVC X'Eye:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/xeye1.jpg)

It plays Genesis and Sega CD games and is really reliable, and it's an officially licensed console so don't worry about that. They're a bit harder to find though.

I have never seen that before. :o

Is it region-free?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 14, 2008, 08:03:13 PM
I have one, I'm pretty sure it's not Region Free. It'll play CD-Rs though. And I don't know if it's because JVC's custom firmware is awesome or because it has a better CD-ROM drive, but load times are a lot faster on that than on my Model 1 Sega CD I used to have.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
Hrm, upon further reading, it seems like an American rerelease of the CDX. It's distinguished mentally-challenged how convoluted Sega's hardware department was back then.

http://www.amazon.com/Sega-CDX-Video-Game-Console/dp/B000GHWQUY
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 08:12:53 PM
Called the Sega Wondermega in Japan:

http://ultimateconsoledatabase.com/golden/sega_wondermega.htm
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2008, 08:48:30 PM
It's definitely worth it if you can find one for about $20-$30, but from what I've been reading they're kind of rare these days.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Enl on December 14, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
I'd go with the Model 1. Headphones volume dial FTW. Also the JVC is pretty good but I don't think it works with 32x games (at least I couldn't get mine to work).
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: littlemathletics on December 14, 2008, 09:13:09 PM
I've never seen a Model 3 in the wild - are they common in the US?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
I'd go with the Model 1. Headphones volume dial FTW. Also the JVC is pretty good but I don't think it works with 32x games (at least I couldn't get mine to work).

It should work just fine with 32X games.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 14, 2008, 09:53:43 PM
I've never seen a Model 3 in the wild - are they common in the US?

Nah, not as much as the other two. The Model 3 was made by Majesco and it wasn't released until after the PSX/N64 were already out, so I it's not like they were making millions of them.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 08:36:34 PM
I just bought a Model 1 with the High Definition Graphics label  :hump

Hopefully it's non-TMSS
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: littlemathletics on December 17, 2008, 08:39:30 PM
Nice. How much?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 08:40:36 PM
$30

It also came with a few games.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: littlemathletics on December 17, 2008, 08:50:23 PM
Man, I should pick up a US one sometime. eBay?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 08:54:33 PM
Yep.

What sucks though is that I found out how to tell if it has TMSS or not after I actually bought it. Oh the suspense. :sp0rsk1
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Shuri on December 17, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
TMSS?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 09:37:13 PM
TMSS?

Basically Sega's form of region coding.

The first version of the Model 1 (made from 1989 to ~1992 I think) didn't have TMSS, which means you can play all Japanese and European Mega Drive games on it.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Positive Touch on December 17, 2008, 09:39:36 PM
TMSS?

Basically Sega's form of region coding.

The first version of the Model 1 (made from 1989 to ~1992 I think) didn't have TMSS, which means you can play all Japanese and European Mega Drive games on it.

hoo damn I did not know that.  Is the only way to test it by sticking in a foreign cartridge?
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
Actually, it's a lot easier than that.

When you turn the system on, if a black screen that says "Produced or Licensed by Sega" or something like that comes up, then your Genesis has TMSS
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Positive Touch on December 17, 2008, 09:49:18 PM
:rock mine does that!  still have the one that I bought with my allowance waaaaaay back in the day, and it still worked perfectly earlier this year.  gonna get me the eurotrash version of the Mega Man 1-3 remakes!
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 09:50:45 PM
TMSS is bad
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Positive Touch on December 17, 2008, 10:01:50 PM
:???
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
If that "Produced or Licensed by Sega" screen comes up then your Genesis has TMSS which means it can't play Mega Drive games.

Although when were those Mega Man games made? I think that Mega Drive games made before TMSS existed can still be played on a Genesis with TMSS, but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: tiesto on December 17, 2008, 10:16:35 PM
Could you get around import lockouts with a Game Genie and a valid code? I have the MD version of Phantasy Star (rare as hell) that I'd like to try.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 17, 2008, 10:18:22 PM
Could you get around import lockouts with a Game Genie and a valid code? I have the MD version of Phantasy Star (rare as hell) that I'd like to try.

I'm pretty sure you can.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 19, 2008, 08:39:34 PM
It came today. It has TMSS ( :'() but the most important thing is that it's a High Definition Graphics model which means superior sound.

On another note, I think I received the greatest Genesis 3-button controller ever made.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: jiji on December 20, 2008, 03:13:19 AM
Only some Megadrive games are locked out.  It's mostly later, big-budget titles.  Most games are all-region, and some will even display different text/title screens for different hardware regions.  But for the stuff that's locked out, it's easy to install switches to flip between regions and PAL/NTSC.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2008, 03:17:32 AM
Man, i haven't played my Genesis in years because I need new cables.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2008, 03:18:36 AM
Actually, what you need to get is the JVC X'Eye:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/xeye1.jpg)

It plays Genesis and Sega CD games and is really reliable, and it's an officially licensed console so don't worry about that. They're a bit harder to find though.

I've never even heard of this. Holy shit.

TMSS?

Basically Sega's form of region coding.

The first version of the Model 1 (made from 1989 to ~1992 I think) didn't have TMSS, which means you can play all Japanese and European Mega Drive games on it.

I have this model 1 :rock :rock :rock

btw, I've never had a sega cd but always wanted one. Hmmm.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 20, 2008, 12:24:04 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2008, 12:47:29 PM
I really want to get a CDX... seems like the optimal way of playing SEGA-CD. I already have 2 SEGA-CD games (Willy Beamish and Popful Mail), and want the 2 Lunars and Shining Force CD.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 20, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
Rocket Knight Adventures :hump :hump :hump
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: bork on December 20, 2008, 01:32:16 PM
X'Eye is crap compared to the CDX, which is Sega's best console from that era, hands-down.

I really want to get a CDX... seems like the optimal way of playing SEGA-CD. I already have 2 SEGA-CD games (Willy Beamish and Popful Mail), and want the 2 Lunars and Shining Force CD.

It's nice, but the optimal way of playing Sega CD games nowadays is via an emulator.  I used to play them on my modded Xbox; the games looked awesome with the various filters and the load times were cut way the hell down.  Now I have Snatcher on my PSP.   :D
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 20, 2008, 04:35:40 PM
Rocket Knight Adventures :hump :hump :hump

Yessssss. I still haven't played Sparkster.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2008, 04:38:29 PM
Rocket Knight Adventures :hump :hump :hump

Yessssss. I still haven't played Sparkster.


Genny Sparkster  :'(

i don't think i could even make it past the first or second level
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 20, 2008, 05:06:46 PM
It's bad? :(
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 20, 2008, 05:09:29 PM
It's bad? :(

Look at videos of it on YouTube

SNES Sparkster is the true sequel to RKA
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 20, 2008, 05:20:08 PM
Oh wow. They're completely different games.
Title: Re: My Genesis borked :(
Post by: Cravis on December 24, 2008, 09:32:41 AM
I love how you can just burn Sega CD games to a disc and the SCD reads them. They didn't even bother with copy protection lol. I picked up a Sega CD for dirt cheap that was thought to be dead. I replaced the fuse and it's good as new. It was worth it for Eternal Champions, Sonic CD, Spider-man, and The Terminator.