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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 09:07:55 PM

Title: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
I've never played a NFS game, so I downloaded the Most Wanted demo and it was pretty fun. ProStreet is available for only 11 bucks from gamefly. I asked GAF which one I should get and they gave me 900 different answers stretching back to like NFS3 on the PS1 one or something. no. It needs to bet his gen since I need pretty graphics.

I'm pretty tolerant of shit framerates as long as the games are fun. Is ProStreet good? Carbon looks a bit assy but ProStreet looks cool. Or should I just dive in and get Undercover?

My options are...

Most wanted (fun, kind of shit graphics?, old)
Carbon
ProStreet
Undercover

u tell me!
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: littlemathletics on December 18, 2008, 09:10:49 PM
Most Wanted is probably the nicest looking, since it doesn't have a colour palette consisting solely of neon pink and dark streets.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2008, 09:11:33 PM
Most Wanted is the best game out of all of those.

Pro Street is the best looking, but it's a pretty shitty game.  Most notable part of the game is the great smoke.

Why do you really want to play a NFS game anyway?
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 09:15:41 PM
I don't know actually. I love racers, I like speed, and I need sum.

also i figured i should play it before it went the way of the dodo
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2008, 09:18:02 PM
Go play Haze or something if you want a shitty swan song game.

If you want a good racer, there are many better ones this gen even in just the street racing subgenre.  PGR4, GRID, and Midnight Club LA are all good recent alternatives.  If you want to go older, try Test Drive Unlimited.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: littlemathletics on December 18, 2008, 09:20:54 PM
FlatOut Ultimate Carnage. Buy it. Love it. Treads such an awesome line between sim and arcade, and is absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 18, 2008, 09:22:42 PM
Most Wanted, dude.

I had a lot of fun with it, it should be dirt cheap by now (since it was a 2005 release I think), and Josie Maran :drool

The downside is that I hate sandbox racing games but there is always enough for you to do with plenty of challenge.  Towards the end, some missions really suck as you get the police that drive in Hummers that basically try to knock you around.  A lot of fun!

Didn't play Pro Street or Carbon but they look like NFS games that tried to recapture the spirit of Underground, which, I didn't care too much for those games.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 09:57:26 PM
Go play Haze or something if you want a shitty swan song game.

If you want a good racer, there are many better ones this gen even in just the street racing subgenre.  PGR4, GRID, and Midnight Club LA are all good recent alternatives.  If you want to go older, try Test Drive Unlimited.
I already played Haze...it's pretty unplayable.

Midnight Club is better? Most Wanted has fun running from cops ^___^
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2008, 10:05:35 PM
I'm 90% sure Midnight Club has you evading cops, although that isn't the focus of it.  Others may disagree but I think that the crux of what Most Wanted is all about is in the demo and unless you really care about trying out other cars and all that, playing the demo over again would probably be enough.

I only played a bit of LA at a friends house and it felt exactly like Midnight Club 3 to me, which is a really good thing.  I want to pick it up, it's just that I have an RPG backlog and want to play Valkyria first, so hoping that it drops it price when I eventually do get it.

And a bit random, but the game Wheelman looks like it will be pretty fun.  It's like Driver 1 meets Pursuit Force.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: demi on December 18, 2008, 10:13:09 PM
Most Wanted cause you get 1000 just for beating the game
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2008, 10:14:13 PM
Hot Pursuit.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 10:18:49 PM
NO HIMU

BAD HIMU


Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2008, 10:21:31 PM
HOT PURSUIT
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2008, 10:24:20 PM
y2kev said nothing that old

Besides, it's Hot Pursuit 2 that's the best NFS game.  Specifically the PS2 version of Hot Pursuit 2 and not the weird other versions that aren't as good.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2008, 10:30:39 PM
HOT PURSUIT 2

who cares if it's old

why play the shit he listed? Hot Pursuit!
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: demi on December 18, 2008, 10:39:04 PM
Just do Most Wanted
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 18, 2008, 11:15:58 PM
My fav is actually Carbon, though I'd say 80% of people I know prefer Most Wanted.  I really don't enjoy the forced progression in Most Wanted where I have to do a lot of cop chases just to race.  And to be clear, Carbon requires almost no cop chases.  If you really like that aspect, then go with Most Wanted.

Someone mentioned Flatout, and it is outstanding.  It really is Redneck Burnout, with an occasionally frustrating physics engine.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: littlemathletics on December 18, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
Yeah, getting knocked off your line by a piece of fence is fucking annoying, because it gets pretty technical later in the game - you really quickly learn that you can't just smash your way to victory over and over.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: T234 on December 18, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
Midnight Club II is the best game in this thread.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 11:25:40 PM
I like cop car chases, but I also like racing. That's kind of why I thought Undercover was supposed to be good-- you could just go from one thing to the next to the next without a lot of crap in the way.

NFS is like Madden in how quickly the games drop in price, so maybe I will go to the store tomorrow and see what I can find. I also need to get gas :\

bummer
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: T234 on December 18, 2008, 11:32:38 PM
Get Midnight Club II, Mr. Wrist!
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 18, 2008, 11:33:39 PM
Undercover just isn't good.  It's so bad technically it saps a lot of the fun.  I was able to get a few hours of fun from Most Wanted before it felt like grinding.  It's probably the best place to start.

edit:  Don't get Midnight Club II unless you enjoy pausing the game action every 30 seconds looking at a map.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: T234 on December 18, 2008, 11:37:28 PM
Bullshit junior lrn2drive
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
Undercover just isn't good.  It's so bad technically it saps a lot of the fun.  I was able to get a few hours of fun from Most Wanted before it felt like grinding.  It's probably the best place to start.

edit:  Don't get Midnight Club II unless you enjoy pausing the game action every 30 seconds looking at a map.
Now I want to try this Carbon you speak of! :hyper

Prostreet is 20 MSRP/11 from GF, so I figure I should be able to grab MW and Carbon for like 20 tomorrow.

prostreet is bad (I like sim racers, keep in mind)?

I put midnight club LA on my queue.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 18, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
The demo of ProStreet was enough for me to know I didn't want it.

Carbon is racing.  It's shorter and easier than Most Wanted.  It's also better imo.  Good choice buying both, though.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 11:42:02 PM
There's a demo of Prostreet? I logged on to XBL but only saw MW. :(
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 18, 2008, 11:50:43 PM
They must've pulled it.  There was one right when it launched last year.

It sucked.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/n/needforspeedprostreet/demo.htm
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 11:54:35 PM
Damn. EA must know black box sux.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2008, 11:56:14 PM
Check PSN. There might still be a demo on there.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 18, 2008, 11:58:08 PM
I'll look. I'm looking at 1up's reviews for these games and they are really high. ProStreet got an A-.

edit: YAY PSN!!! It's there.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 12:03:30 AM
Who the hell is Gord Goble?
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 12:04:24 AM
john davison's alias he uses after he cashes ea's checks
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 12:07:17 AM
It does sound like a fake name
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 12:14:13 AM
GORD? fake as fuck.

okay mr john davison
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 12:40:03 AM
That wasn't terrible, it was kind of unmemorable though. I just had to race in a straight line.

Does anyone get the impression that these consoles render better in SD or something? It's like I'll play a game in SD and it'll run great and then I'll play it in HD and it will run like shit.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 19, 2008, 07:18:02 AM
I've only played one game in SD, and it was Quake4.  Didn't notice anything different.  darkx10 has something similar about one of the Tomb Raiders.  I'll take the framerate hit for HD rez.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 12:25:54 PM
I only played the Forza 2 demo on SD before at a friend house and it only helped to remind me that I'm a huge nerd.  They were all going crazy over the graphics and I'm sitting there thinking that even in HD the game doesn't look that great compared to other racing games this gen, and this is them watching it on an SDTV...no wonder they're all Wii owners.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: brawndolicious on December 19, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
I think Carbon is the best NFS this gen so far.  It might be hard to find though.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
I got snowed in. :( but gamefly shipped some NFSs to me! I have to go buy carbon tho.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: duckman2000 on December 19, 2008, 03:01:58 PM
NFS II, for sure.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 03:24:47 PM
I got snowed in. :( but gamefly shipped some NFSs to me! I have to go buy carbon tho.

Did you try the Carbon demo?
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 03:40:53 PM
I got snowed in. :( but gamefly shipped some NFSs to me! I have to go buy carbon tho.

Did you try the Carbon demo?

there's carbon demo? I only saw prostreet.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
unless they took it down, there used to be one for the 360.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
unless they took it down, there used to be one for the 360.
Well they took down the Pro Street one, so I just figured. Unless it was under Carbon, which is possible.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 04:07:11 PM
is the new mc good?
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 04:22:54 PM
this thread actually makes me want to go out and buy Midnight Club LA

I haven't tried it yet, but it really can't be as good as the second one.

I should go buy it today.

have you played Midnight Club 3? I thought 3 had better single player stuff than 2, but the multiplayer wasn't as much fun.  Midnight Club 2 multiplayer was a blast.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2008, 04:32:23 PM
I just ordered it from amazon for $45...damn y2kev if it isn't good

Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 19, 2008, 05:14:57 PM
I didn't even buy it  :lol

though i might on christmas eve :D

DEALS
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: brawndolicious on December 19, 2008, 09:07:05 PM
You may want to just get the PC version.  I was always better with a keyboard at NFS underground.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 22, 2008, 03:56:07 PM
I got undercover and I think I like it~~

Holy fuck, this game runs like an N64 game. This performance is unbelievable. It stutters like every hundred meters.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 22, 2008, 04:14:59 PM
Okay, I see why EA is going to be laying these people off. They are basically all redundant. It doesn't really do anything better than Burnout and does a whole lot worse. Well, not true. It does shuffle you quickly from event to event and the geeky story stuff is kind of cool.

Criterion could rock this shit.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 22, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Midnight Club LA is fun
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: brawndolicious on December 22, 2008, 08:46:11 PM
I didn't have a problem with Carbon's performance.  It is fun tuning your car up, but Underground 2 had the best options imo and that's probably hard to find.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 22, 2008, 09:19:08 PM
playing midnight club makes me want to play burnout paradise
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 22, 2008, 11:39:07 PM
Midnight Club LA is fun
The map stuff is so awesome! How did they do that shit!!!1!!111
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 23, 2008, 12:01:36 AM
it was in spider-man 2
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 23, 2008, 12:11:50 AM
oh

oh :(

I don't know, the racing seems so...bad? Everything is so floaty. ...I'm going back to NFSUNDERCOVER LOL
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 23, 2008, 12:53:10 AM
the driving mechanics aren't as good as Midnight Club 3, but after spending a decent amount of time with LA, I think a big part of it is the weird camera.  Every single camera option is terrible.  It's so weird since Midnight Club 3, even the PSP game, had good driving cameras.  it does kind of feel like you're car has a giant ball in the middle that causes you to spin in unnecessary ways.

I'm still enjoying it, just not as much as Midnight Club 3.  AI is shit tho.  Both the other racers, civilians, and cops are really annoying.  Are drivers in LA so distinguished mentally-challenged that they would drive into a car? it's like they won't deviate from their predetermined paths.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 23, 2008, 12:56:39 AM
rent undercover so i can discuss it with you :hyper

Midnight club LA is a boat racing game, camera is horrible with the car stuck in the center of the screen. this isn't even better than burnout or motorstorm, so it's definitely not the best this year.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 23, 2008, 01:01:27 AM
I'm done getting other racing games for a while.  I have my PGR4, Burnout Paradise, Motorstorm 2 trio I always go back to anyway since they're the most fun.  (and Wipeout HD, but I wanted to say trio)

I'll still play Midnight Club for a while and see if getting cars later on will make it more fun, but getting money is annoying hard.  And the damn cops take $800 when I get $250 for a 4 minute race.  And then I actually need to upgrade my current car to actually match up with the absurd AI drivers, so I'm left with no money to buy more cars.  This is reminding me too much of real life money situations.

Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: brawndolicious on December 23, 2008, 04:21:47 AM
If you just want an awesome racing game then you should have gotten Grid.  No tuning but still lots of modes/options to keep it fresh.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 23, 2008, 05:41:10 AM
I have yet to play Motorstorm 2, and until I do GRiD is easily racing GotY
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 23, 2008, 10:00:53 AM
MCLA is just too hard. The rubberband is not fun. I hate that crap. Make one wrong boat handled turn and you're basically done unless it's the first half of the race, and I still prefer NFS's yellow track outline to this "we'll let you know where you're going when you get there" stuff. So many last minute turns through traffic, which results in incredibly irritating CAMERA SHAKE FROM HELLLLLLLL and boat turning.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 23, 2008, 10:04:06 AM
totally agree

Midnight Club 3 is so much better than this.  Races here are just annoying, and the way your car handles doesn't make sense from an arcade or realistic standpoint. 
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 24, 2008, 11:39:22 AM
Midnight Club LA is so weird

this is the only game I've ever played, or even the any time I've driven a car (virtual or not), where a fwd car handled better than a rwd or awd. 
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 24, 2008, 11:57:52 AM
That sucks because I like the MC games and was planning on getting LA here.  Guess not.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 26, 2008, 04:50:34 PM
Playing Burnout Paradise after getting fed up with Midnight Club's bullshit just shows how much talent Criterion has compared to the people at Rockstar.  So far Rockstar is 0 for 2 when it comes to bringing old franchises to the new systems, hopefully Red Dead Revolver 2 isn't as painful.  The good news is that LA Noir might turn out good since their only other new IP turned out good.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 26, 2008, 04:57:59 PM
NFS > MC
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: Tabasco on December 26, 2008, 07:59:07 PM
Glad you see the truth now kev.  MC is crap.  Someone needs to go to the R* offices and remind them about having fun in games.

Motorstorm > Burnout

The torch has been passed.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 26, 2008, 08:04:21 PM
Motorstorm 2 seriously rocks. Such a great game and no one cares. I blame PS3.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 26, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
yeah, Motorstorm 2 is awesome.

If there is one thing the PS3 is strong in, it's racing games.  Well, at least now it is that Bizarre is with Activision.
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: y2kev on December 26, 2008, 08:19:09 PM
cant wait for their bond racer

.....
Title: Re: EB (tabasco) recommend me a need for speed
Post by: cool breeze on December 26, 2008, 08:23:12 PM
if anyone could get Bizarre to make a bad game, it's Activision.