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Title: The Tales Series
Post by: Rman on December 30, 2008, 02:35:20 PM
I'm really enjoying Tales of Vesperia on the 360 and wanted to know if there are other Tales titles worth checking out as well.  The ones that come to mind are Abyss for PS2 and Symphonia for GCN.  A Symphonia sequel recently came out as well for Wii, but I heard it was garbage.  Are Abyss and the original Symphonia worth playing?  Are they on par with Vesperia in terms of quality?
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 02:41:09 PM
no
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2008, 02:41:24 PM
there's one tales game worth checking out a decade, so no.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Rman on December 30, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
no
:lol
I knew you would respond like that.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 30, 2008, 02:48:47 PM
I haven't played Vesperia yet (hear it's good tho) but of Abyss and Symphonia, Abyss is the way to go.  Better battle system (field of fonons, free run) and not as many cringe inducing stereotypical homojapual characters, plot devices, etc.  Plus, Jerk Luke is awesome.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2008, 02:54:05 PM
FIRE!!!!!

KAPUH!!!

FIRE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 02:54:25 PM
Well, really, no. I could see going back to Abyss. Has loading issues but it's not horrible. The cast blows compared to Vesperia. Mieu will make you want to die.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 02:54:34 PM
FIREEEEEEEE
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
FIREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 02:56:15 PM
MIEUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2008, 02:56:53 PM
KAPUHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Rman on December 30, 2008, 03:01:25 PM
I also heard the skits in Abyss don't have voice acting.  Is that true?  Voiced skits really do give the game [Vesperia] charm.  It wouldn't be the same if you had to read them all the time.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 03:16:06 PM
Skits are for weeaboos. I dont watch any of them. You can buy them when you beat the game anyway, for the achievement. Meh
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 03:31:11 PM
I also heard the skits in Abyss don't have voice acting.  Is that true?  Voiced skits really do give the game [Vesperia] charm.  It wouldn't be the same if you had to read them all the time.
True
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 30, 2008, 03:35:14 PM
I also heard the skits in Abyss don't have voice acting.  Is that true?  Voiced skits really do give the game [Vesperia] charm.  It wouldn't be the same if you had to read them all the time.

Neither Abyss or Symphonia have voiced skits.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Jansen on December 30, 2008, 03:49:05 PM
Are Abyss and the original Symphonia worth playing? 

abyss is

whatever you do, do NOT even attempt to play legendia

it's fucking trash
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: tiesto on December 30, 2008, 04:14:47 PM
I prefer Symphonia to Abyss, personally - better graphics, less technical issues (like horrible loading an a world map that runs at 5FPS), and less run-back-and-forth-between-towns. Destiny and Destiny 2 on PSX are pretty fun too, as is a SNES or PSX translated version of the original Phantasia. But whatever you do stay away from the GBA Phantasia port, it's horrible.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2008, 04:24:03 PM
Symphonia was my first Tales game and I really enjoyed it, then I played most of the rest (not the DS games or PSP ones) and realized that Symphonia was the only one I actually liked, or really I just got bored after playing middling game after game.  I was hesitant on getting Vesperia, but after IU let me down I picked it up and now I consider that the best Tales game.

The Tales series is really weird for me.  I think if you play the best, you're better off not touching the rest, and Vesperia is the current best (UNTIL TALES OF TEN FOR WII!!! LOL).  Vesperia has the best combat, dialogue, and characters.

Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 30, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
I prefer Symphonia to Abyss, personally - better graphics, less technical issues (like horrible loading an a world map that runs at 5FPS), and less run-back-and-forth-between-towns. Destiny and Destiny 2 on PSX are pretty fun too, as is a SNES or PSX translated version of the original Phantasia. But whatever you do stay away from the GBA Phantasia port, it's horrible.

Symphonia is so... cloyingly homojapual tho.  I know that doesn't really bother you, but I feel dirty playing it.  Plus Abyss has muuuuuch better combat, with free run and field of fonons.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Bocsius on December 30, 2008, 08:34:13 PM
I enjoyed Symphonia and even liked Legendia, although I didn't finish it. Haven't played Abyss or anything else.

Although I must say playing the Vesperia demo this afternoon didn't do wonders. I think it's because it made me feel like I was too old to play that game.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 30, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
both Symphonia and Abyss are worth playing.  Abyss is great.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:12:37 PM
TALES OF TEN FOR WII OMG!!! ARE YOU EXCITED!!! It's going to be like going back to the stone age!!
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Bocsius on December 30, 2008, 09:19:08 PM
The Vesperia demo didn't seem like a graphical juggernaut. It looked like it could have been on GameCube.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 09:22:17 PM
TALES OF TEN FOR WII OMG!!! ARE YOU EXCITED!!! It's going to be like going back to the stone age!!

<tiesto> :piss graphic whores :piss2

The Vesperia demo didn't seem like a graphical juggernaut. It looked like it could have been on GameCube.

(http://i.testfreaks.co.uk/images/products/600x400/118/tales-of-symphonia-gamecube.232822.jpg)

(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/866/866992/tales-of-vesperia-20080416012507939_640w.jpg)
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2008, 09:22:43 PM
Vesperia looked alright for the most part.  I like how the cel shading was very sharp and clear compared to Naruto PS2 and Valkyria aliasing fest.

 Blue Dragon is still the best looking 360 jrpg.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:25:07 PM
Vesperia's characters looked amazing.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 09:27:50 PM
No dudes, it's totally capable on a GameCube
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
anyone who puts "tales of ten" in a "wii's 2009 lineup is great" should die, i hate them
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 09:29:58 PM
It will be comparable to the graphical quality of Vesperia. Because it is on a Wii, and a Wii is more powerful than a Gamecube.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Bocsius on December 30, 2008, 09:33:29 PM
Doesn't look much different to me. The point is I don't see how it being on Wii is a bad thing, graphically speaking. The Wii is powerful enough for this kind of game.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
Doesn't look much different to me. The point is I don't see how it being on Wii is a bad thing, graphically speaking. The Wii is powerful enough for this kind of game.
are you blind?
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 09:34:49 PM
You're a pretty good troll, etiolate. Now log out of that account and on your real one
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Bocsius on December 30, 2008, 09:36:12 PM
The characters are of different quality, but the scenery looks the same to me, or at least comparable. Keep in mind I'm also going off recollection and different televisions were used in the playing of Symphonia and Vesperia.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:36:49 PM
SYMPHONIA HAS FUCKING CIRCLE SHADOWS
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2008, 09:37:14 PM
anyone who puts "tales of ten" in a "wii's 2009 lineup is great" should die, i hate them

Sonic and the Black Knight is a highly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

The Melancholy of Haruhi is a highly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Re-releases of Gamecubes are highly anticipated games for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Red Steel 2 is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Dead Rising minus zombies/fun is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Rogue Trooper (released in 2006) is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

crummy game from no-name shovel ware dev is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Bocsius on December 30, 2008, 09:37:45 PM
Oh man, shadows. ::)
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: demi on December 30, 2008, 09:37:56 PM
The characters are of different quality, but the scenery looks the same to me, or at least comparable. Keep in mind I'm also going off recollection and different televisions were used in the playing of Symphonia and Vesperia.

Ok I was kidding about the previous comment. Himuro, stop playing on S-Video and log onto your real account
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:39:14 PM
Oh man, shadows. ::)
:borys

Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:40:14 PM
anyone who puts "tales of ten" in a "wii's 2009 lineup is great" should die, i hate them

Sonic and the Black Knight is a highly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

The Melancholy of Haruhi is a highly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Re-releases of Gamecubes are highly anticipated games for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Red Steel 2 is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Dead Rising minus zombies/fun is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

Rogue Trooper (released in 2006) is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009

crummy game from no-name shovel ware dev is a hightly anticipated game for the Nintendo Wii in 2009



I'm looking forward to:

Conduit (well, not looking forward to it, but it looks okay)
MadWorld
Tenchu 4
Pikmin gamecube
DQX
Potential DQ7 remake
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 30, 2008, 09:52:00 PM
Crystal Bearers is probably 2009 (for Japan).  DQX is more like 2012.

Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:53:02 PM
Crystal Bearers is probably 2009 (for Japan).  DQX is more like 2012.

DQX
Crystal Bearers
Potential Crystal Bearers 2
FFXIII Wii game Potentially
DQ7 Potential
DQ6 Potentially moved from DS to Wii

looks like a great year imo
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 30, 2008, 09:54:09 PM
I still think SE will produce some kind of Chrono sequel at some point.  Maybe they could co-develop it with Monolithsoft, in which case I guess it would have to go on a Nintendo platform.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 09:54:38 PM
why would square really want to do that though? for kato? fuck kato, dude sux
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 30, 2008, 10:01:14 PM
No particularly strong reason, just I'm not sure they have the manpower to do it internally at the moment, and MSI is as likely a choice as any (they already worked on background graphics for Dirge of Cerberus).  Kato's not at MSI anyway though, he's still freelance and actually is working on the new FFXI scenarios.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: TVC15 on December 30, 2008, 10:11:47 PM
  Kato's not at MSI anyway though, he's still freelance and actually is working on the new FFXI scenarios.

How do you learn this shit?  Your knowledge of the minutiae of various Square-related developers is analogous to a teenage girl knowing what brand of salsa Lance from NSync likes best.
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: y2kev on December 30, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
he's matsuno spilling the beans while chilling on the beach
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 30, 2008, 10:15:02 PM
How appropriate that you pick on the only known gay group member  :P
Title: Re: The Tales Series
Post by: tiesto on December 31, 2008, 12:35:35 AM
Monolith Soft should be working on a Baten Kaitos 3, if all was right with the world...