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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: mojovonio on January 02, 2009, 12:19:42 PM

Title: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: mojovonio on January 02, 2009, 12:19:42 PM: Oh man, this was THE CD of my high school years. I remember every Friday night, local Musiqueplus VJ Claude Rajotte hosted a 3 hour long program on the local rock station where he would play bands no one has ever heard of. At least, bands a 14 year old boy never heard of. I mean, he would play Supergrass, Primal Scream, Filter, My Life with the Thrill Kill Cult, it was fucking awesome, and I'd record it every week.

So a month before Mellon Collie came out, a while after Bullet With Butterfly Wings was the #1 song everywhere, Claude said he would play 2 tracks from the CD every Friday night till it came out.

HOLY HOLY HOLY FUCK.

Today was my favorite song in grade 6. While everyone else was putting Ace of Base, I was leading the wave!

So Mellon Collie was a big fucking deal for me.

The first song he played.... was Bodies.

Jesus, was I not prepared for that. Smashing Pumpkins always did the grunge thing. And when Billy Corgan started screaming "LOVE IS SUICIDE!". Holy shit. He was so passionate when he sang it and it was such a sad song. Then he played 33 after.

So the following weeks, he played Where Boys Fear to Tread, Zero, By Starlight and I can't remember the rest.

So I saved up whatever money I could, and we were on our way with my family... somewhere, but I asked my dad to stop at a mall so I can run in and get it. I didn't have a discman at that time, so I just kept looking through the 2 booklets over and over.

Finally made it home, threw it in to my CD player, put my headphones on and stayed up all night listening to both sides over and over and over.

Still one of my top 3 favorite albums. Such an amazing mix of different genres and all done so so well.

I don't know what happened to Smashing Pumpkins after this album. They just lost what made them unique.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadnes
Post by: Draft on January 02, 2009, 12:25:13 PM: I loved SP.

I listened to this album over and over again while reading through The Stand for the first time.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 02, 2009, 12:48:55 PM: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was definitely one of those things that help frame childhood memories in time.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 02, 2009, 12:52:58 PM: fegs
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 02, 2009, 12:58:24 PM: Would it help if I said I drink Duncan Hills coffee?
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 02, 2009, 01:02:24 PM: a bit
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 02, 2009, 01:05:04 PM: Glad I had taste as a cigarillo teen.

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Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 02, 2009, 01:08:40 PM: Bloated album--like most double albums--but it has some very good tracks.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Brehvolution on January 02, 2009, 01:09:58 PM: :bow Mellon Collie :bow2

CD 2 (By Starlight?) wasn't taken out of my car CD player for weeks.

It was hearing Drown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mn-3EqaO0E) for the first time that made me a SP fan. Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, and Mellon Collie was the trifecta of ultimate awesome for me.

It's too bad that everything after MCatIS never really did much for me.

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Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 02, 2009, 01:13:42 PM: I think it sucks

Is this the album that said "Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage?" If so, then it is one of the worst albums of all time.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 02, 2009, 01:18:23 PM: that's pretty deep to a sixth grader, though
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 02, 2009, 01:19:53 PM: Diablos is like thirty, dude. Explain that!
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 02, 2009, 01:22:01 PM: The thing about that album was that there were a few crazy unreleased singles and B-sides which were good, and a lot of overplayed radio mess.

Whatever though. Album reminds me of high school, which was was awesome-all night Axis and Allies (and later MUCH worse) with junk food with no consequences while listening to Bad Religion. :rock
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 02, 2009, 01:23:35 PM: I thought Diablos was banned or something?
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 02, 2009, 01:25:03 PM: del
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Brehvolution on January 02, 2009, 01:27:04 PM: Quote from: Fragamemnon on January 02, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
The thing about that album was that there were a few crazy unreleased singles and B-sides which were good, and a lot of overplayed radio mess.

Whatever though. Album reminds me of high school, which was was awesome-all night Axis and Allies (and later MUCH worse) with junk food with no consequences while listening to Bad Religion. :rock
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Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Robo on January 02, 2009, 01:31:20 PM: I used to be such a big cigarillo for Smashing Pumpkins. And then Adore came out. :-\
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Bocsius on January 02, 2009, 01:41:20 PM: I'm having a hard time remembering if I've ever heard their music. I think Nirvana covered a couple of songs for Unplugged, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Robo on January 02, 2009, 01:44:01 PM: I don't think Nirvana would knowingly have anything to do with the Pumpkins. You're thinking of the Meat Puppets, maybe?
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Brehvolution on January 02, 2009, 01:45:24 PM: Quote from: mojovonio on January 02, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: RoboJ on January 02, 2009, 01:31:20 PM
I used to be such a big cigarillo for Smashing Pumpkins. And then Adore came out. :-\

same here >:(

Third that.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Bocsius on January 02, 2009, 01:48:57 PM: Quote from: RoboJ on January 02, 2009, 01:44:01 PM
I don't think Nirvana would knowingly have anything to do with the Pumpkins. You're thinking of the Meat Puppets, maybe?

Just figured that out. Yep, I was thinking of Meat Puppets on the Nirvana part. Still nothing for Smashing Pumpkins, then. I caught a couple sound clips on iTunes, voice sounds a little familiar, but no track leaps out at me. Oh well.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: TVC15 on January 02, 2009, 03:44:24 PM: Terribly overrated album. It's about 3/4ths filler. I'm not sure it could even be condensed into a solid single CD album. It's probably the worst SP (major) release, aside from Machina. The singles had great b-sides, so I have no fucking idea what went wrong.

EDIT: I edited in the Machina bit since someone will call me on it, but for the record, I like that album a bit more, although similar to Mellon Collie, it is hilariously bloated.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: demi on January 02, 2009, 03:50:33 PM: LET ME GUESS YOU WANT YOUR ACCOUNT DELETED DIABLOS
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: TVC15 on January 02, 2009, 03:51:46 PM: I thought that was the one account we *did* delete?
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: demi on January 03, 2009, 01:09:52 AM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOB3QVqLYBk

lol billy corgan
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: thekavorka on January 03, 2009, 02:37:31 AM: obligatory siamese dream > mellon collie

and zero is a terrible song. just for that song, :piss mellon collie
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: Eric P on January 03, 2009, 10:13:27 AM: i politely told everyone that i liked "gish" so i could avoid people telling me i was an idiot for not liking smashing pumpkins.

i'm sorry but once i discovered industrial music, your petty human concerns for harmony and lush melodies was outdated.

what i wanted was germans yelling at me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APxXwp23hi0
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadnes
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2009, 05:43:15 PM: I was a ridiculous pumpkins fan when I was younger. Still love Siamese Dream and Gish. Mellon Collie really is mostly filler, but I was so stoned in those years that I loved all of it. I collected all the singles and bought incredibly overpriced CD bootlegs and everything.

I'm kind of embarassed for Billy Corgan now though. The guy just doesn't haven't a spot of class.

Their cover of "Never Let Me Down Again" is the best thing ever, btw.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: TVC15 on January 04, 2009, 05:49:50 PM: :bow LAIBACH :bow2

SP are pretty much a singles-only band. They do tend to do good b-sides though.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadnes
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 04, 2009, 05:52:23 PM: Quote from: Kranz Fafka on January 04, 2009, 05:43:15 PM
I was a ridiculous pumpkins fan when I was younger. Still love Siamese Dream and Gish. Mellon Collie really is mostly filler, but I was so stoned in those years that I loved all of it. I collected all the singles and bought incredibly overpriced CD bootlegs and everything.

I'm kind of embarassed for Billy Corgan now though. The guy just doesn't haven't a spot of class.

Their cover of "Never Let Me Down Again" is the best thing ever, btw.

Didn't he say that his music was intended to cause a revolution? Then once that didn't pan out, they made Adore? I don't know a whole hell of a lot of SP backstory other than Corgan being a huge douche.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Post by: siamesedreamer on January 04, 2009, 05:54:52 PM: If it were just one disc with like 12-15 songs, then it would be arguably better than SD. But, there are some really shitty filler songs on that album - especially the garbage sung by James Iha. Good grief.

That said, I really dug the day/night theme for each disc.

Fun Fact: I was the first person in line at Tower Records' midnight launch in Buckhead. Still have the receipt.
Title: Re: Bore music elitits am cry. Remembering Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadnes
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 04, 2009, 06:28:09 PM: Quote from: Kranz Fafka on January 04, 2009, 05:43:15 PM
I was a ridiculous pumpkins fan when I was younger. Still love Siamese Dream and Gish. Mellon Collie really is mostly filler, but I was so stoned in those years that I loved all of it. I collected all the singles and bought incredibly overpriced CD bootlegs and everything.

Same here. I got into them in 1990 and was a ridiculously obsessed fanboy for ten years. I owned every official release, and bought a ton of the European bootleg CDs. Drove all over (Washington, Oregon, Idaho and British Columbia) to see them, even spending near $1,000 to attend the final show at the Metro in 2000.

The new incarnation of the band just doesn't do it for me.