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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: ToxicAdam on January 11, 2009, 01:27:14 AM

Title: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 11, 2009, 01:27:14 AM
Revealed: the environmental impact of Google searches

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Physicist Alex Wissner-Gross says that performing two Google searches uses up as much energy as boiling the kettle for a cup of tea

Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.

While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g. “Google operates huge data centres around the world that consume a great deal of power,” said Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist whose research on the environmental impact of computing is due out soon. “A Google search has a definite environmental impact.”

Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern. A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines - about 2% of global CO2 emissions. “Data centres are among the most energy-intensive facilities imaginable,” said Evan Mills, a scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Banks of servers storing billions of web pages require power.


http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece

:lol

Repent now for your carbon sins. Not only the sins you have commited, but the sins of your dead relatives. Just send a check to the Dewey, Cheetem and Howe Carbon Fund and you too can be absolved.


Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 11, 2009, 01:44:49 AM
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While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g. “Google operates huge data centres around the world that consume a great deal of power,” said Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist whose research on the environmental impact of computing is due out soon. “A Google search has a definite environmental impact.”

Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern. A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines - about 2% of global CO2 emissions. “Data centres are among the most energy-intensive facilities imaginable,” said Evan Mills, a scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Banks of servers storing billions of web pages require power.

7g * 200M searches/day = 1.4 M kg/day
US CO2 emissions are about 17 billion kg/day, so ... hmm.

edit: LOL, MATH IS HARD
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 11, 2009, 01:45:28 AM
i guess it's time to ddos google
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2009, 01:47:09 AM
I'd like to see how that compares with, say, driving a mile in an average SUV.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 11, 2009, 01:54:09 AM
apparently CO2 emissions from burning gasoline are about 9 kg/gallon, so if your SUV gets 20 mpg, 1 mile = 450g = 65 Google searches.  Then again, I found this information using Google, so the real answer is probably more like 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: DJ_Tet on January 11, 2009, 01:56:18 AM
Speaking of which, what the fuck are 'Carbon Offsets' and who gets that money?


Am I supposed to pay extra to my power company because of some sort of environmental guilt?


Go fuck yourself k?  I turn my shower on and off just to rinse, I do my part in keeping my carbon footprint low.  How about those companies that dump millions of gallons of waste into creeks? 


Maybe they should buy all these 'Carbon Offsets.'


Did I mention you can go fuck yourself?
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2009, 02:13:11 AM
apparently CO2 emissions from burning gasoline are about 9 kg/gallon, so if your SUV gets 20 mpg, 1 mile = 450g = 65 Google searches.  Then again, I found this information using Google, so the real answer is probably more like 3 or 4.

To give a bit more perspective to that, 200 million Google searches is equivalent to about 3 million of those SUVs driving an extra mile a day.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 11, 2009, 02:48:44 AM
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To give a bit more perspective to that, 200 million Google searches is equivalent to about 3 million of those SUVs driving an extra mile a day.

I dunno, it kinda does seem like potentially a lot to me though.  I guess most of the world isn't like me yet, but I probably average 100 searches a day.  If everyone in the world did that, we'd have 600 B searches/day which could amount to like 6% of world carbon emissions, and Google searches are only a small part of the IT industry of course.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2009, 02:47:54 PM
Then again, I found this information using Google

Environment am cry.  :'(
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Bocsius on January 11, 2009, 03:03:45 PM
So much for the internet.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
IN RUSSIA (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10138969-2.html)
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 15, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
epilogue: Both google and the physicist cited say this story is BS anyway.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Bildi on January 15, 2009, 09:22:42 PM
It doesn't change the fact that boiling kettles are destroying the planet.
Title: Re: Your Google searches are destroying the planet.
Post by: Mandark on January 15, 2009, 11:29:03 PM
epilogue: Both google and the physicist cited say this story is BS anyway.

Yep.  Science reporting (including the soft sciences like economics) in major dailies is generally awful.  The kettle stat wasn't sourced, either.