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Title: The Decemberists new album is either going to suck or rock
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 12:55:18 PM: (http://assets1.pitchforkmedia.com/images/original/148644.hazardsoflove525.jpg)

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Hazards of Love:

01 Prelude
02 The Hazards of Love 1 (The Prettiest Whistles Won't Wrestle the Thistles Undone)
03 A Bower Scene
04 Won't Want for Love (Margaret in the Taiga)
05 The Hazards of Love 2 (Wager All)
06 The Queen's Approach
07 Isn't It a Lovely Night?
08 The Wanting Comes in Waves / Repaid
09 An Interlude
10 The Rake's Song
11 The Abduction of Margaret
12 The Queen's Rebuke / The Crossing
13 Annan Water
14 Margaret in Captivity
15 The Hazards of Love 3 (Revenge!)
16 The Wanting Comes in Waves (Reprise)
17 The Hazards of Love 4 (The Drowned)

Rock opera :o

I'm the type of guy who really enjoys their story-telling (Who isn't a fan of Mariner's Revenge Song?), so this seems to be right up my ally. But at the same time, I wonder if its a bit too pretentious.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 12:56:48 PM: You know what's pretentious? Your beard.

Shave it.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2009, 12:58:28 PM: The Tain was awesome, I'm hoping that's what they're going for with this concept album.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 12:59:05 PM: The Tain was really cool, I'll give you that.
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Post by: patrickula on January 22, 2009, 01:03:27 PM: Quote from: distantmantra on January 22, 2009, 12:58:28 PM
The Tain was awesome, I'm hoping that's what they're going for with this concept album.
Yup.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on January 22, 2009, 01:08:38 PM: When is this due? I didn't even know they were working on a new album.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 01:11:51 PM: March 24th

I hope they release it on vinyl, they're vinyl selection is pretty shit
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Post by: Robo on January 22, 2009, 01:14:26 PM: My money is on SUCK HOBO BALLS.
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Post by: Tauntaun on January 22, 2009, 02:55:18 PM: Isn't that pretty much any album that comes out? It'll either suck or rock?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 03:39:16 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on January 22, 2009, 02:55:18 PM
Isn't that pretty much any album that comes out? It'll either suck or rock?

No, some sock
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Post by: Bloodwake on January 22, 2009, 04:00:41 PM: I hope it doesn't suck. I loved The Crane Wife.
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Post by: TVC15 on January 22, 2009, 04:13:27 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 22, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
I'm going to say "suck."

I'll play the odds and say this. The Tain was the last really interesting thing they did for me.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 04:42:47 PM: You didn't like The Crane Wife? I thought for some reason you did.

Besides that, though, I'd say this might be the closest to The Tain they've done since.
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Post by: TVC15 on January 22, 2009, 04:44:15 PM: I liked The Crane Wife more than the one before it, but that's about it.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 04:46:37 PM: Ah, I see. I don't know, I'm curious. I got a lot of mileage out of the Crane Wife, but I thought it was missing some of the epic stories that their previous stuff had. This looks to be somewhat of a return to that.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 04:50:49 PM: Eh, I was only really bugged by the Island.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 13, 2009, 02:13:54 PM: Bump to say THIS HAS LEAKED, available at wherever things leak to.

I've only gotten to listen to part of the first track..... it's pretty damn awesome. More impressions later.
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Post by: Tucah on March 13, 2009, 04:06:43 PM: Yeah, it leaked last weekend. Been listening to it a whole bunch since then, I like it. A lot.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2009, 04:14:02 PM: You know what would be awesome, and awesomely confusing to 99.3% of the people who own it? Sticking a new song off the album in Rock Band.
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Post by: Kara on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM: I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 13, 2009, 05:08:17 PM: Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

That's like every album released in the past ten years.
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Post by: Kara on March 13, 2009, 05:15:52 PM: That's why I labeled it the money line. :-*
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Post by: Robo on March 13, 2009, 06:40:37 PM: Don't care! I just want the new Peter Bjorn and John, goddamnit.
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Post by: TVC15 on March 13, 2009, 07:17:32 PM: Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

Ding ding ding. This is even more boring than their last two albums. To its credit, it is more rocky, like the Tain, and less twee-y, but there's nary a catchy tune to be had.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 13, 2009, 08:36:45 PM: Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

Hey, how about those Arctic Monkeys?
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Post by: TVC15 on March 13, 2009, 08:41:35 PM: The success of the Arctic Monkeys is absolutely puzzling. One of the most puzzling mysteries in pop music this century.
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Post by: drew on March 13, 2009, 09:00:04 PM: i liked their first album when it came out :-[

i did a lot of coke and ritalin back then lol
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Post by: Eric P on March 13, 2009, 09:26:53 PM: i like them both
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 13, 2009, 09:39:26 PM: I can't find a good leak of this anywhere, but I keep hearing conflicting things. Obviously everyone here hates it, but I hear through various twitter feeds that it's pretty good. Meh, I'l just wait till it officially releases.
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Post by: Lafiel on March 13, 2009, 09:47:21 PM: I haven't listened to that band since 2005, is the crane wife any good?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 13, 2009, 09:58:18 PM: Quote from: Lafiel on March 13, 2009, 09:47:21 PM
I haven't listened to that band since 2005, is the crane wife any good?

It's worth checking out. Some people will tell you it was bad, but a lot of other people will tell you it was a strong effort that doesn't compare to Picaresque or the earlier albums. It's good, I got a lot of milage out of it. Check it out.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 13, 2009, 10:47:26 PM: I listened to the full album. It's alright. I will probably like it more once I listen to it more. It definitely is a rock opera, although it isn't as varied as, for example, the Wall. A lot of the same melodies repeat more than once. The other frustrating thing is there's not really one track on the CD that you can play individually and get a lot out of.
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Post by: TVC15 on March 14, 2009, 07:46:25 AM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 07:18:39 AM
Saw them play live at Coachella one year. They pretty much sucked, so I've been turned off since then. I like The Infanta though.

They're consistently awesome in clubs. I wouldn't judge an act based on how they play at a stadium or a festival, especially if they are not accustomed to such shitty conditions.

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I'd probably like them more if some douchebag on this board hadn't said that they're better than Muse.

Um, they definitely are better than Muse? While they have failed to evolve their sound, they still have at least 2 great records of material, no matter how you cut it. Muse, not so much.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 14, 2009, 01:10:00 PM: Muse is pretty bad, I've only ever liked that one song in GH3.

I saw the Decemberists in a small bar environment in Columbus and they were fantastic. They played the Mariner's Revenge Song as the encore. :-[
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 04:35:52 PM: Wasn't it just a few months ago that Cajole was talking positively about Muse and everyone was agreeing?

I know what happened. Stephanie Meyer said it was one of her favorite bands and inspirations. There goes that band's EB cred.
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Post by: Kara on March 14, 2009, 04:38:43 PM: Muse isn't bad, just insipid and unmemorable.

Unless you're still on your prog training wheels or something I guess.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on March 14, 2009, 05:10:29 PM: Quote from: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 04:35:52 PM
Wasn't it just a few months ago that Cajole was talking positively about Muse and everyone was agreeing?

I know what happened. Stephanie Meyer said it was one of her favorite bands and inspirations. There goes that band's EB cred.

There's no way you're remembering that right. I'm sure cajole did praise Muse, but there's no way more than a handful of people agreed with him.
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Post by: Greatness Gone on March 14, 2009, 05:13:01 PM: Muse is even worse than The Beatles, actually. The lead singer is ugly and what comes out of his mouth can't possibly be described as singing.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 05:23:39 PM: Muse is okay, that's the point. They aren't my favorite, but they aren't ear cancer either.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on March 14, 2009, 05:30:10 PM: Quote from: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
Muse is okay, that's the point. They aren't my favorite, but they aren't ear cancer either.

I don't think Muse is horrible, I just can't get into their music.
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Post by: Kara on March 14, 2009, 05:35:35 PM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 04:55:40 PM
Either way, how the fuck would Muse be considered prog?
They aren't wholly prog, but they incorporate enough prog into their style for it to be mentioned. If you'd never heard the real deal you might think they were interesting.
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Post by: TVC15 on March 14, 2009, 05:38:35 PM: Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on March 14, 2009, 07:46:25 AM
Um, they definitely are better than Muse? While they have failed to evolve their sound, they still have at least 2 great records of material, no matter how you cut it. Muse, not so much.

Your mediocre ability to judge music is well documented. Matt Bellamy blows this band away just by himself. However, with your previous comment in mind, I will check out the Decemberists live again if I get a chance to see them in a smaller venue.

Aren't you one of those people that worship Led Zep, too? Don't you have a bong to be fantasizing over?

I like a lot of great music and a lot of crap, but I don't really feel the need to pump myself up by telling me that everything I listen to is superlative. It's okay to like big, over-produced crap. It's also okay to like shitty punk music that sounds like it was recorded in a septic tank. Not everything you appreciate has to fit some objective definition of greatness. It's okay. Breathe.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 14, 2009, 05:40:18 PM: I believe you used that same analogy with velvet underground's first album, lol
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Post by: TVC15 on March 14, 2009, 05:42:09 PM: Quote from: BrandNew on March 14, 2009, 05:40:18 PM
I believe you used that same analogy with velvet underground's first album, lol

Which one? The led zep bong one or the septic tank one.

Not that I just keep writing zep because I am too lazy to recall the proper spelling for the rest of the word. Saturday mornings aren't for thinking.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 14, 2009, 05:57:24 PM: septic tank one
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Post by: TVC15 on March 14, 2009, 06:00:25 PM: I use that one a lot because it really does fit some of the shittier sounding recordings of the 60s-80s. It sounds more like sound was embossed onto a disc of heavy ambient noise rather than being recorded onto a previously pristine source.

I think the septic tank analogy works better with white light/white heat, but it definitely also applies to some of the songs on the first album. Some of the songs on that are actually well recorded. Maybe half of them.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 08:22:48 PM: I bought this album, not really listening to their discography, after hearing a few tracks. I dig it. That probably makes me uncool, but whatever.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 26, 2009, 08:26:52 PM: I like Muse, based on the couple of songs I heard at a friend's friend's house.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 08:27:35 PM: I also like Muse, but I'm not very pitchforkian when it comes to music, so my opinion is probably worthless when it comes to music.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2009, 08:54:07 PM: Quote from: Willco on March 26, 2009, 08:27:35 PM
I also like Muse, but I'm not very pitchforkian when it comes to music, so my opinion is probably worthless when it comes to music.

No, being pitchforkian is even worse now, apparently!

Meh. People like what they like. TVC likes some queer ass shit, but it's no biggie.

That said though, I can't really get into this. Willco, try out Her Majesty or Picaresque.
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Post by: TVC15 on March 26, 2009, 09:03:18 PM: Queer ass shit? I'm not the one that likes Animal Collective, nor do I put my musical taste above anyone else's. I've been bored with the Decemberists for a while now, on record. I think it has to do with Colin Meloy's voice, which always just sounds the same
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Post by: TVC15 on March 26, 2009, 09:13:51 PM: I think I'm going to start pirating Underworld albums this weekend, dcharlie. I need something new to get into and I've been on an electronic kick the past year and I really don't know how I've survived without hearing them.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 09:23:40 PM: I probably will pick up Picaresque and Her Majesty sometime this weekend. I'm enjoying this new one, though.

Someone forced me to listen to Dan Deacon today (nobody here, thankfully). I wanted to hate it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
but i kind of liked it
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Post by: Robo on March 26, 2009, 09:37:05 PM: I've been spending a lot of time on Pitchfork now that they have a lala player in every review. I can read their articles and know right away if they're completely full of shit or not.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 09:38:49 PM: I pretty much hate Pitchfork and all that it stands for.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 26, 2009, 09:41:18 PM: Quote from: RoboJ on March 26, 2009, 09:37:05 PM
I've been spending a lot of time on Pitchfork now that they have a lala player in every review. I can read their articles and know right away if they're completely full of shit or not.

Yup, I love the player and do the same thing. Perfect excuse to visit their site

still waiting for their DOOM review. Should be interesting
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2009, 09:59:03 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 09:03:18 PM
Queer ass shit? I'm not the one that likes Animal Collective, nor do I put my musical taste above anyone else's. I've been bored with the Decemberists for a while now, on record. I think it has to do with Colin Meloy's voice, which always just sounds the same

I wasn't judging you. But if you're allowed to make fun of me liking Animal Collective, I can tease you just as much.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 10:02:56 PM: Animal Collective is pretty bad.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2009, 10:04:18 PM: meh, different strokes

but you kinda liked dan deacon! That's kinda weird, didn't expect you to. Which album did you listen to, the new one or Spiderman of the Rings?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 10:07:18 PM: Spiderman of the Rings
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2009, 10:11:08 PM: Ah, okay. Don't know if you'll like the new one. It's a bit slower.
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Post by: Robo on March 26, 2009, 10:15:48 PM: I didn't care much for Animal Collective, but between Merriweather Post Pavilion, Water Curses and Panda Bear's Person Pitch, I have been totally fagging out for them lately. THE SHAME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zol2MJf6XNE&fmt=18
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2009, 10:18:14 PM: No shame. From me, anyway. Be prepared for the SHITSTORM of "mehhh you have shitty taste"
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Post by: Robo on March 26, 2009, 10:20:14 PM: I can live with having shitty taste.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 10:20:29 PM: no you cant
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Post by: Robo on March 26, 2009, 10:21:01 PM: :gloomy
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 26, 2009, 10:24:42 PM: Not liking the new album very much, but I'm sorta sick of The Decemberists. I'll have to give it another listen in a month or two.

Quote from: RoboJ on March 26, 2009, 10:15:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zol2MJf6XNE&fmt=18

That video is complete shit, and My Girls is probably my favorite song on that album. I really hope that's fan-made.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 10:30:30 PM: I find that the video is comparable in quality to the music.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 26, 2009, 10:52:24 PM: I've tried listening to that song a couple times. It's so loud and boring, I don't get it
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 26, 2009, 11:48:45 PM: I avoided the leak, but I picked this up on Tuesday and have listened once or twice each day since then, and at this point I like it. It's no Tain, but it's interesting. I wonder if this pisses off a lot of old school fans since this album makes it appear that Meloy really wants to break away from his pirate songs and be in Pink Floyd or Zeppelin.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 26, 2009, 11:52:34 PM: I'm wondering if that's why I'm enjoying the album so much, since I'm so far removed from the band. I mean, this is the first Decemberists album I've ever purchased.
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Post by: TVC15 on March 26, 2009, 11:59:59 PM: Quote from: Willco on March 26, 2009, 11:52:34 PM
I'm wondering if that's why I'm enjoying the album so much, since I'm so far removed from the band. I mean, this is the first Decemberists album I've ever purchased.

I honestly think this might have a little something to do with it. Looking like, song by song, there's no reason I shouldn't really like Picaresque or The Crane Wife as much as the first two albums. I think I just got burned out. Sometimes it seems like you burn out on the more unique and quirky things more quickly than you do "normal" things.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 27, 2009, 12:19:22 AM: Quote from: Willco on March 26, 2009, 11:52:34 PM
I'm wondering if that's why I'm enjoying the album so much, since I'm so far removed from the band. I mean, this is the first Decemberists album I've ever purchased.

I've been a fan since before they signed with Kill Rock Stars, and I'm still enjoying this album. Hell, I liked Picaresque and The Crane Wife, which appear to be detested by lots of people.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2009, 01:18:47 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 26, 2009, 10:52:24 PM
I've tried listening to that song a couple times. It's so loud and boring, I don't get it

My Girls is honestly now one of my least favorite tracks on that album. I like some of the earlier tracks other than it, and the last three tracks the most.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 27, 2009, 01:25:48 PM: The album is starting to grow on me. I've been listening to it today. It might be something that you have to listen to more than once to really appreciate.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 30, 2009, 09:38:46 AM: Been listening to the album for the better portion of the weekend while on public transit and I really like it - a lot.

I picked up Cutouts and Castaways, The Crane's Wife and Picaresque this weekend, as well. Of those three, I only like Picaresque as much as The Hazards of Love. But good tracks on all.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 30, 2009, 02:11:23 PM: Quote from: Willco on March 30, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
Been listening to the album for the better portion of the weekend while on public transit and I really like it - a lot.

I picked up Cutouts and Castaways, The Crane's Wife and Picaresque this weekend, as well. Of those three, I only like Picaresque as much as The Hazards of Love. But good tracks on all.

Track down The Tain EP, you'll love it.
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Post by: Lafiel on March 31, 2009, 01:22:25 AM: Quote from: Yola on March 26, 2009, 10:24:42 PM
Not liking the new album very much, but I'm sorta sick of The Decemberists. I'll have to give it another listen in a month or two.

Quote from: RoboJ on March 26, 2009, 10:15:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zol2MJf6XNE&fmt=18

That video is complete shit, and My Girls is probably my favorite song on that album. I really hope that's fan-made.

:lol sadly it's not, which is a shame, i really like the music videos of 'who could win a rabbit?' and 'peacebone'.