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Title: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: ManaByte on January 22, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore, but this is important.

deamentia on GAF, who used to work for Hudson while he posted there (and was my roommate back in 1998) is now involved in a murder/suicide:

http://www.edge-online.com/news/games-journalist-suspected-murder-suicide

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A former journalist for IGN, Ziff-Davis and Ultra Game Players has shot himself and his wife in an apparent murder-suicide.

Jason Montes, 33, of Sacramento was found dead by police at the home of his estranged wife in Concord, California on Sunday, January 11. His wife Serena Montes, 25, was fatally wounded at the location. According to police, Montes had called a friend to say he had shot his wife and planned to kill himself. The gun belonged to his father.

Montes, a science fiction and video game devotee, joined Ultra Game Players then published by Imagine Media, in the mid-1990s. According to a resume posted on Facebook, he went on to work for IGN, The Official PlayStation Magazine at Ziff and Prima among others. More recently, he worked in marketing for Hudsonsoft, before pursuing a career in web design and animation.

Serena Montes, a pastry chef, met Montes online and were wed in 2007. However, the two parted last year. Montes had recently filed for bankruptcy protection.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
 :S
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 03:45:15 PM
Ok show of hands who thought of someone else
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Ok show of hands who thought of someone else

like the OP?  :lol

Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 22, 2009, 03:51:41 PM
Benoit'd
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Brehvolution on January 22, 2009, 04:00:37 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 22, 2009, 04:03:21 PM
Benoit'd

BUT BUT HE WAS UNDER A LOT OF STRESS!
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
John Wayne Gacy was just trying to entertain!
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 22, 2009, 04:14:33 PM
Sucks.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Diunx on January 22, 2009, 04:17:29 PM
I don't remember this guy, but before entering the thread I though it was Manabite(someone using his account to tell us the news) or that guy that made all those threads complaining about his wife.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Crushed on January 22, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
wait a second (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6138822&postcount=34)

Quote from: deamentia
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Have you ever met a person like Cho Seung-Hui? (Va. Tech Killer)
Manabyte /ducks

oh god manabyte what did you do




serious post: that really sucks  :'(
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2009, 04:19:58 PM
I remember his avatar, but not his posting much.  Pretty messed up regardless.  :(

It's not really surprising that there are some people with mental problems/instability on gaf.  I mean just read any NPD thread.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 04:20:04 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3555515&postcount=1486

 :nsfw
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 22, 2009, 04:21:40 PM
That guy still posted there? wow. the way Manabyte said it, I thought he meant he knew him years ago

^ :o
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Diunx on January 22, 2009, 04:24:00 PM
:lol demi
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: cool breeze on January 22, 2009, 04:24:38 PM
that is pretty messed up
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Robo on January 22, 2009, 04:25:04 PM
This is pretty fucked.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3555515&postcount=1486

 :nsfw

I feel horrible for laughing (and laughing and laughing). :(
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Grecco on January 22, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
I think he posted the news on Hudson stuff on the VC actually. Wow
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 22, 2009, 04:32:10 PM
I'll break my self-imposed silence for this.

Jason Montes was the first person I ever met in the game industry.

Back in 1996, debaser and I wrote a piece of fanfic about Kabuki Jo and Plant 42, winning an Ultra Gameplayers Online contest. Jason and I chatted a few times via e-mail, and when my brother came out to L.A. that summer for a music program, we arranged for me to come by the office and meet him as long as I was out here (and to pick up our prizes!). I got to meet everyone working on UGP and Next Gen, which for a game-addled 16-year-old was, like, I dunno. Meeting the Beatles at the height of Beatlemania? I wanted to be Next Gen when I grew up. I'm still somewhat disappointed that I - and my industry - are not.

Anyways, it's a goddamn shame, and considering where I am today, I'm more than a little distressed.

P.S. My mom totally freaked him out when she was able to name all the Final Fantasy VII characters on his desk.

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I also thought this thread was about Manabyte until I saw he had posted it. :lol
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Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bloodwake on January 22, 2009, 04:41:17 PM
Wow, that sucks. I do remember him from the VC thread.

Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 22, 2009, 04:45:25 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326792

His last post at GAF was in Manabyte's fake suicide thread. Then Manabyte comes back here after he said he was leaving to post this guy's real suicide thread. Sound like some Suicide Club shit is going down.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 04:52:32 PM
Condolences to the wife's family. That's rough.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 22, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Yeah, that part's just senseless.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: drohne on January 22, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
scary. dude used to run a fansite called mall media that i was really into in those early web days
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: drew on January 22, 2009, 05:12:43 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326792

His last post at GAF was in Manabyte's fake suicide thread. Then Manabyte comes back here after he said he was leaving to post this guy's real suicide thread. Sound like some Suicide Club shit is going down.

sdf

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suicide defense force
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Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: ManaByte on January 22, 2009, 05:27:06 PM
I remember back when Jason put SLI-Voodoo2s in his machine in the apartment and everyone was like "OMG" at seeing Quake II running at 1024x768.

Or EQ beta. I'd get up to go to work a 12 hour shift and hear gnolls dying in Blackburrow. Come home and hear gnolls dying in Blackburrow. Wake up a few hours later and hear gnolls dying in Blackburrow.

Playing Starcraft until we broke the AI.

Quake II LAN games.

Non-stop Ocarina of Time marathon until it was beaten.

Working on PC Fan and pissing off Gary Whitta at PC Gamer with our Force Commander preview.

RIP
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: tiesto on January 22, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
Wow, that's seriously messed up... I remember the guy from the Hudson VC threads and I think sending him a PM or two asking about bringing the Tengai Makyo series to America.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
RIP

Rest in Peace? It's too bad the useless fuckhead does get to rest in peace. Fuck him, I don't care how many videogames you two played together.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 22, 2009, 06:15:17 PM
I hope nobody is shedding tears over this fuck
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Diunx on January 22, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
RIP

more like RIaseaofspikedcockspenetratinghisdickhole, the asshole killed his wife.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 06:47:32 PM
Damn, everyone has their fangs out for this guy.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: T234 on January 22, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/inappropriate.jpg)
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 22, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
that's fucked up. just kill yourself, jesus. i don't remember the dude from GAF
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 22, 2009, 07:06:42 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/inappropriate.jpg)
:lol that's so wrong
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 22, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
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Jason Montes was the first person I ever met in the game industry.

jesus christ, I remember that guy too.  probably the first game writer whose name ever stuck in my memory.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bebpo on January 22, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
Damn, everyone has their fangs out for this guy.

Killing another person and taking away the rest of their life is about the worst thing anyone can do.  Once you do that you lose the sympathy vote from most.  Also killing yourself is fucked up.  If you do something horrible than use the rest of your life to do something good to atone for it.  Don't kill yourself.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Akala on January 22, 2009, 07:13:02 PM
bad news.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: T234 on January 22, 2009, 07:16:11 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/inappropriate.jpg)
:lol that's so wrong

I WILL NOT BE ACCUSED OF BEING SOFT, EVER
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 22, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
I do remember him from the VC thread.



ya.  weird. 
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Cheebs on January 22, 2009, 08:18:04 PM

RIP
RIP? what the hell? He should be burning in hell. He murdered a young innocent woman.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: lordmaji on January 22, 2009, 08:20:26 PM
damn, I remember him posting too... That's fucked up.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Boogie on January 22, 2009, 08:31:35 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: WrikaWrek on January 22, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
That's fucked up.

I don't understand why he would kill his wife before committing suicide, if suicide was his priority. But it's one of those things.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Cheebs on January 22, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Crushed on January 22, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.

I don't see anybody saying "maybe it wasn't his fault," but rather, "holy shit, something must have been messed up with the guy's head when he did this."
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Cheebs on January 22, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.
A lot of people actually knew the guy.  Probably hard to comprehend the situation.
The main defense posts were by people who knew him only by his hudson stuff. None of those who knew him seemed to get defensive of the guy really.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Oblivion on January 22, 2009, 09:08:25 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.

What if it his wife was the one who was planning on offing him, and he wound up killing her in self defense, and then killed himself from the shock of what he had just done?
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Crushed on January 22, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
what if his wife was being sucked up by a vortex and then
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 22, 2009, 09:09:24 PM
Possible but not probable

Being a total piece of shit is more likely
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Boogie on January 22, 2009, 09:10:49 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.

Same thing with Benoit.  Same thing with Justin Levens on MMA forums.  Ya, obviously someone like that is fucked up in the head, but there's no sense denying the fact that it's an utter atrocity that cannot be defended.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TVC15 on January 22, 2009, 09:13:28 PM
what if his wife was being sucked up by a vortex and then

It's not really his wife.  She was really an 8000 year old demon.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 09:14:13 PM


Same thing with Benoit.  

Benoit was a hard worker. You leave him alone.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 09:14:26 PM
Making the "ITT we defend serial killers like they worked in the gaming industry" now... just need a banner and it will be up.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
Here's a vortex post

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6846814&postcount=1413
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Crushed on January 22, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
That really is the best post on gaf ever.

It's like the Debate & Discussion subforum on SA (which is basically the General Bullshit subforum without the 'ms paint ur balls' threads)

Actual post from D&D:

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The death of a child is always a tragedy, but let's put this in perspective, shall we?


That's pretty much the whole forum, and most of GBS: find ways to actually defend atrocities. Not feeling pity for the sad offenders, mind you, but actually trying to defend their actions. Like a story about a white vigilante gang in New Orleans shooting innocent black people on sight. "Hey, you don't know what was happening! Those black people could have been on their lawn, and stealing stuff!"
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14481470&postcount=174

Quote and the reply.

It's kind of like Chris Rock, "I'm not saying he should have killed her..."
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
Oh gracious @ RoboJ

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14481518&postcount=176
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 09:31:06 PM
Oh gracious @ RoboJ

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14481518&postcount=176

 :lol
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 22, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2009, 09:33:50 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2009, 09:35:51 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.

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my condolences to his and her family. he committed suicide so he was not thinking straight mentally so we shouldnt lay on him if he murdered his wife. He did not get the mental help he required. its the system that got to both of them

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Seriously! From a lot of the comments people have made, you'd think they never stepped a foot outside their doorsteps and interacted with living, breathing human beings. I would think twice before condemning a man you hardly knew...

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None of us will ever know what events passed, or what led up to it. Some people need to step down from their self-rightous high horses.

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very sad, and no reason to murder someone, but lets get all the facts before saying hes a coward and scum. maybe he is, but lets get the rest of the story. very sad and I remember him and his posts and he seemed normal.

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this will sound bad, but you don't know why. yes maybe and probably he is scum, but can we get the full story first? some reasons why you would kill someone can be justified. not saying this is the case but can we give this a little bit more time?

Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TVC15 on January 22, 2009, 09:38:49 PM
Oh gracious @ RoboJ

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14481518&postcount=176

Truly a gentleman and a scholar.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
I remember his avatar, but not his posting much.  Pretty messed up regardless.  :(

It's not really surprising that there are some people with mental problems/instability on gaf.  I mean just read any NPD thread.
: /
This is true of many forumites.

Evilbore is so distinguished mentally-challenged sometimes.
For some asinine reason I'm not mad at this guy for killing his wife.  The whole situation is just sorry.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 09:53:57 PM
I remember his avatar, but not his posting much.  Pretty messed up regardless.  :(

It's not really surprising that there are some people with mental problems/instability on gaf.  I mean just read any NPD thread.
: /
This is true of many forumites.

Evilbore is so distinguished mentally-challenged sometimes.
For some asinine reason I'm not mad at this guy for killing his wife.  The whole situation is just sorry.

I'm not angry at the guy; I'm just not going to say RIP or it's a shame that he killed himself.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 09:54:07 PM
I remember his avatar, but not his posting much.  Pretty messed up regardless.  :(

It's not really surprising that there are some people with mental problems/instability on gaf.  I mean just read any NPD thread.
: /
This is true of many forumites.

Evilbore is so distinguished mentally-challenged sometimes.
For some asinine reason I'm not mad at this guy for killing his wife.  The whole situation is just sorry.

Shut up asspie fuck, before I come for you next
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2009, 10:02:16 PM
I guess as someone with "issues" I relate to psycopaths...
I really need to get back to therapy.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: TVC15 on January 22, 2009, 10:06:18 PM
Demi is not a psychopath.  He listens to Mae.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Barry Egan on January 22, 2009, 10:09:08 PM
Like the posters on GAF, it probably has less to do with neurosis as much as some mutant strain of political correctness mixed with latent faggotry.  

The only solution is to kill yourself.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 10:09:44 PM
Exactly, I'm respectable and very well-liked
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
No, I mean I feel more sympathy for the guy and alot of apathy for the woman he killed.  That can't be good to feel that way.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 22, 2009, 10:10:48 PM
What a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Barry Egan on January 22, 2009, 10:18:57 PM
No, I mean I feel more sympathy for the guy and alot of apathy for the woman he killed.  That can't be good to feel that way.

amended diagnosis:  You've yet to transverse your Oedipal conflict, leading you to identification with the vengeful phallus and coolly distant from the castrating Mother. 

As Freud often concluded in his therapy sessions, the only solution is to kill  yourself.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Boogie on January 22, 2009, 10:19:31 PM
FUCK anybody who's such a cowardly prick that he takes someone else with him.

Shoot yourself in the fucking head if you want, but do it alone.

I don't care if you're Chris Benoit, Justin Levens (MMA fighter), or a GAFFER, if you fucking take your wife with you, you're a worthless piece of shit and death is too good for you.
Do yourself a favor and don't look at the gaf thread. Lot's of "lets wait and see what the facts are, maybe it wasn't his fault" stuff. Like there are plenty of logical reasons to kill defenseless women.

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my condolences to his and her family. he committed suicide so he was not thinking straight mentally so we shouldnt lay on him if he murdered his wife. He did not get the mental help he required. its the system that got to both of them

Quote
Seriously! From a lot of the comments people have made, you'd think they never stepped a foot outside their doorsteps and interacted with living, breathing human beings. I would think twice before condemning a man you hardly knew...

Quote
None of us will ever know what events passed, or what led up to it. Some people need to step down from their self-rightous high horses.

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very sad, and no reason to murder someone, but lets get all the facts before saying hes a coward and scum. maybe he is, but lets get the rest of the story. very sad and I remember him and his posts and he seemed normal.

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this will sound bad, but you don't know why. yes maybe and probably he is scum, but can we get the full story first? some reasons why you would kill someone can be justified. not saying this is the case but can we give this a little bit more time?



Ya, fuck all those pasty internet nerds posting from their mothers' basements.  Talk to any police officers who have to deal with this shit, and they'll be the first to say that the murderer is a piece of shit who deserves no sympathy.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2009, 10:28:22 PM
No, I mean I feel more sympathy for the guy and alot of apathy for the woman he killed.  That can't be good to feel that way.

amended diagnosis:  You've yet to transverse your Oedipal conflict, leading you to identification with the vengeful phallus and coolly distant from the castrating Mother. 

As Freud often concluded in his therapy sessions, the only solution is to kill  yourself.
:D
This could actually be accurate. Thanks for the insight doc, well except I don't think I'll kill myself just yet.  I'll wait till I hit rock bottom. But rest assured your screename will be in the note. Shoutout to evilbore included.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 22, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
Willco and Demi, no more asspies.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 22, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
so what if a wrassler killed his wife, who was a gaffer? or vise versa
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Cheebs on January 22, 2009, 11:06:59 PM
Speaking of which, if the role was reversed. Wife killed gaffer guy.  I doubt many gaffers would try to argue that we shouldn't judge murderers we don't personally know.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Oblivion on January 22, 2009, 11:21:29 PM
Speaking of which, if the role was reversed. Wife killed gaffer guy.  I doubt many gaffers would try to argue that we shouldn't judge murderers we don't personally know.

Can't we simply not take anyone's side and just say they both deserved to die?

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Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 11:23:17 PM
Speaking of which, if the role was reversed. Wife killed gaffer guy.  I doubt many gaffers would try to argue that we shouldn't judge murderers we don't personally know.

Can't we simply not take anyone's side and just say they both deserved to die?

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At least they played Bubble Bobble. Fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I will cut your throat.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Bocsius on January 22, 2009, 11:30:45 PM
We will try to understand why, demi.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Oblivion on January 22, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
Speaking of which, if the role was reversed. Wife killed gaffer guy.  I doubt many gaffers would try to argue that we shouldn't judge murderers we don't personally know.

Can't we simply not take anyone's side and just say they both deserved to die?

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At least they played Bubble Bobble. Fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I will cut your throat.

How do you know the woman played? For all you know, she had a Wii.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: demi on January 22, 2009, 11:42:17 PM
I know things.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Mandark on January 23, 2009, 12:46:08 AM
I'll break my self-imposed silence for this.

Jason Montes was the first person I ever met in the game industry.

Back in 1996, debaser and I wrote a piece of fanfic about Kabuki Jo and Plant 42, winning an Ultra Gameplayers Online contest. Jason and I chatted a few times via e-mail, and when my brother came out to L.A. that summer for a music program, we arranged for me to come by the office and meet him as long as I was out here (and to pick up our prizes!). I got to meet everyone working on UGP and Next Gen, which for a game-addled 16-year-old was, like, I dunno. Meeting the Beatles at the height of Beatlemania? I wanted to be Next Gen when I grew up. I'm still somewhat disappointed that I - and my industry - are not.

Anyways, it's a goddamn shame, and considering where I am today, I'm more than a little distressed.

P.S. My mom totally freaked him out when she was able to name all the Final Fantasy VII characters on his desk.

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For whatever reason, this post makes me terribly sad.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: Diunx on January 23, 2009, 12:47:02 AM
I know things.

What kind of things? :-*
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 24, 2009, 03:34:53 PM
Crazy. I remember back when he was with hudson i kept annoying him to get hudson to release more adventure island games on VC. He posted on GAF recently too; I remember him as a poster pretty well. This is really surreal.
Title: Re: Former games journalist/GAFFER in murder/suicide!
Post by: duckman2000 on January 24, 2009, 04:05:53 PM
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its the system that got to both of them

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