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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Rman on February 12, 2009, 08:50:13 PM

Title: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Rman on February 12, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
Get this game.  We need too support innovative game design.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Oblivion on February 12, 2009, 08:52:27 PM
I've only seen screens. What does this game do that's innovative?
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Rman on February 12, 2009, 08:55:27 PM
Motion controls that actually work, amazing art direction, coupled with addictive mechanics.  I would say the concept is pretty innovative--you'll be hard pressed to find these types of games on the HD consoles, which are in danger in becoming FPS machines.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2009, 08:57:06 PM
:bow FPS  :bow2
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 12, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Bought it and played it.

Shit controls. But it looks good.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Draft on February 12, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
distinguished mentally-challenged fellow simple games don't need any more support.

Perhaps you haven't seen the last 20 or so NPDs?
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: MCD on February 12, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2ee97k7.jpg)
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 12, 2009, 09:18:46 PM
Surrender to your waggle overlords, HDfags.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2009, 09:19:50 PM
actual 'game' of it is pretty shallow, but it's a really beautiful game.  If Rare is the worst at making visually pleasing games, whoever made this game are the best.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Trent Dole on February 12, 2009, 10:43:39 PM
Fuck flower, buy noby noby boy next week bitches.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 12, 2009, 11:06:36 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on February 12, 2009, 09:19:50 PM
actual 'game' of it is pretty shallow

Most of the "arty" ones are.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2009, 11:10:14 PM
the real difference between this and things like fl0w and Braid is that it's fun to play, but the things you're doing is flying over to collect things over and over.  Controls are really great and doing moves like a 180 kinda just work when you want them to; you're not really sure how you pulled it off, but when want it to happen it happens.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 12, 2009, 11:17:06 PM
Wario64 said the final stage is awesome so I bought it.  Otherwise at $10 I would have passed since it looked really non-gamey like Flow (which I liked but was only worth really $5ish).

I will play soon.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2009, 11:30:57 PM
the final stage is amazing

and it's way better than flow.  flow sucked.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2009, 11:43:10 PM
So is there a demo
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: dammitmattt on February 12, 2009, 11:54:18 PM
No demo and it should be $5, but I'm still enjoying it.

In fact, my wife played through the first two levels and liked it, although it was a bit frustrating watching her constantly waggle too much.  Any game that sucks my wife in for more than 3 seconds has my vote!
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: pilonv1 on February 12, 2009, 11:57:46 PM
will wait for a demo
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 12, 2009, 11:59:35 PM
its really good :heart
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 13, 2009, 12:00:42 AM
No demo, no buy

This is 2009, come the fuck on Sony
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: rubber feathers on February 13, 2009, 12:38:31 AM
it's really good :heart

and admiral, I completely agree with you re: demos (reason why I haven't bought crash commando, everyday shooter, lumines, crash commando, etc), but I made an exception with this game.  even after the first level I love it.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 12:39:35 AM
I've done two levels and it's a better prince of persia than price of persia was.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: dammitmattt on February 13, 2009, 12:53:45 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 12:39:35 AM
I've done two levels and it's a better prince of persia than price of persia was.

Except it has even more collectibles!

To do the dude (and anyone else) who said the controls suck - you're an idiot.  It's the best Sixaxis motion control yet.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 13, 2009, 01:04:17 AM
Quote from: rubber feathers on February 13, 2009, 12:38:31 AM
it's really good :heart

and admiral, I completely agree with you re: demos (reason why I haven't bought crash commando, everyday shooter, lumines, crash commando, etc), but I made an exception with this game.  even after the first level I love it.

Crash Commando is another great example.

Then that VW GTI turd gets a demo, wtf?
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 01:17:07 AM
Yeah, I passed on Crash Commando because there was no demo and I don't trust XBLA/PSN games in general for quality purposes.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 01:28:44 AM
Quote from: Green Man on February 13, 2009, 01:26:10 AM
No trolling but is flower actually a game? It looked more like an interactive screensaver to me. Is it sometype of puzzle game?

It's like a 3d flying sim where you can't die.  Is pretty fun, controls decently considering motion controls are made of the devil's flesh, has really nice music and art.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 13, 2009, 01:38:48 AM
it's collecting flowers by controlling the wind using the sixaxis in a 3D space.  You'd be surprised by how entertaining that is when you throw in beautiful graphics, music, and, for the first time ever, good sixaxis control.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2009, 02:14:44 AM
pass
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Tieno on February 13, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Is there a demo? No demo, no buy. Don't wanna get burned on these 'innovative' titles.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 13, 2009, 02:54:55 AM
I don't get why games on PSN don't get demos.  I would have bought Pain at release if they had a demo, but instead I waited until the sale months after.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: duckman2000 on February 13, 2009, 03:00:08 AM
Well, what kind of demo could they have really made for Pain without basically including the whole "game?" In some cases I think it's understandable, but yeah... I would like a demo here. Still buying it at some point, because I'm tough that way.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or something.
[close]
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 06:24:52 AM
Flower is awesome. I played through it last night. The last level is incredible, up there with Area 5 in Rez.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Akala on February 13, 2009, 08:15:35 AM
Will buy at five dollars.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: tiesto on February 13, 2009, 08:55:18 AM
I was interested in this when I saw a video of it, will buy.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: dark1x on February 13, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 06:24:52 AM
Flower is awesome. I played through it last night. The last level is incredible, up there with Area 5 in Rez.
Yeah, I suppose that's a pretty good comparison, actually.  In a way, this is a very "Rez-like" game.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 13, 2009, 09:56:19 AM
I'll wait for the PC knockoff flash game.

Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: dammitmattt on February 13, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
I like it a bit more than dcharlie and I feel that it's more of a "game," but I don't see how some people are getting so completely excited about it.  It's a fun little game for an hour or two and that's it.  It doesn't transcend anything.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: jiji on February 13, 2009, 02:46:15 PM
PS3 has motion controls? I totally forgot. 

But I'll probably get this. It's pretty.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
But flower is something new and r-type is a remake of something that's been released in about 100 versions.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Positive Touch on February 13, 2009, 07:27:22 PM
but r-type is two rad games and flower is a tech demo
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 07:43:07 PM
I agree with that, I don't think $15 is too much for R-Type but I can see Flower being a more appealing purchase as it's an interesting experience, even though it's prety short. To beat it in an hour you'd have to be really rushing it though. It took me over two hours and I didn't find most of the secret flowers or unlock many trophies.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 13, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
dcharlie is shitting on a ps3 title i am


shocked.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 13, 2009, 09:30:47 PM
I can and will ignore Flower
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Draft on February 13, 2009, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
But flower is something new and r-type is a remake of something that's been released in about 100 versions.
Yes, but it's the 101th release of a game.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 13, 2009, 09:41:20 PM
I succumbed.

Not much of a "game" but a hell of a lot better than Flow, that's for sure.  I don't know if it's really worth the 10 bucks but then again there's a lot of shit on XBL that isn't worth the money either.  
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 10:03:34 PM
I just like it because it again shows art >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology.

The windmill level looks incredible with the changing time of day.  The colors are just wowowow.  I wish I could walk through fields like these in Fable or FFXIII or Gears of War 3: Color Time. 
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Mrbob on February 13, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
Was going to pass, but now that I see DCharlie doesn't want anyone buying this game at $9.99 I think I will pick it up tommorrow.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: demi on February 13, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
uh oh guys, we have a rebel on our hands
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: MCD on February 13, 2009, 11:00:37 PM
Mrbob, reported for sexual harassment.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: demi on February 13, 2009, 11:02:57 PM
WHAT A FUCKING BADASS HE IS
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: rubber feathers on February 14, 2009, 01:08:27 AM
Come on dc, Flower's a really unique and great experience.  It's a hell of a lot better than 90% of the stuff on downloadable services, that's for sure.

Also, I'm pretty sure that for the most part, the people complaining about R-type's pricing aren't the same people buying Flower.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 14, 2009, 10:39:49 AM
If this isn't a game, then REZ isn't one either.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 14, 2009, 10:55:50 AM
So a game is a only game when you can die in it?

STRANGE
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 14, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb203/Mitroman/flower.jpg)
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 11:24:00 AM
already has trophies

owned
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 14, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
Well, whatever. To me all games are an "experience". Flower isn't a traditional game, but that doesn't mean it's not a game.

I guess it's different for everyone.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2009, 11:43:40 AM
while talking about if it's a game or not is confusing, for me, I think that including those secret flowers makes it more of a game than what was normally called a non-game in the past.  Some of them are straight forward, others require you to explore or solve a puzzle in the world.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2009, 12:39:41 PM
I just did the night stage and that was amazing.

Arguing about whether it's a game or non-game and worth $10 compared to $15 for r-type is silly.  A movie ticket costs $10 does that somehow mean people can't complain about r-type costing $15?  There's really no connection.

Flower is an experience.  Whether it's a game or a painting or a movie or whatever doesn't matter.  All that matters is if the experience is worth the asking price ($10).  That has no relation to the pricing of other experiences.  Everything has to earn their price.  I mean a lot of $60 retail games are 6 hours of gameplay and then you never touch them again.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
Ok beat it.  I actually found the 3rd to last stage the most impressive artistically.  The last stage was good but it was too long.  I liked the lengths of the other stages.

Also I am terrrrrrible at this game.  I only got 1 trophy and my 2nd to last flower is limp and dead even though I beat the level.  lol, I'll probably replay it eventually.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Rman on February 14, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
Same here.  Only one trophy and flowers are limp.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 14, 2009, 01:24:59 PM
Looks awesome. Would buy if i had some $ to spare.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Sysgen on February 14, 2009, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
But flower is something new and r-type is a remake of something that's been released in about 100 versions.

Relative to DCharlies point that doesn't work. How much extra effort does it take to put out a demo?  I was demoing Castlevania SOTN last night and that just had a time limit.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 14, 2009, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 14, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
Ok beat it.  I actually found the 3rd to last stage the most impressive artistically.

The windmill one, right?  I really liked it at the end when you're collecting petals at the base of the windmills at sunset - kind of peaceful in a way.  Personally stages 2,3, and 4 were my favorite. I didn't find the last one to be all that impressive graphically, or at least I wasn't impressed as everyone else seemed to be but it was a nice ride.

I've really warmed up to flower overall though.  I'm not sure if I'll ever play it again but the experience was worth it.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
4 was the most impressive for me
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 09:47:41 PM
gamesharing now :lol
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
I left it sitting at the title screen for 10 minutes after downloading and all of a sudden I got a trophy
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Ninja on February 14, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
I left it sitting at the title screen for 10 minutes after downloading and all of a sudden I got a trophy

It's only right that a non-game rewards you for not playing.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 10:30:08 PM
I spent more time on the title screen than I did once I picked up the controller

Why is this fun? This sucks.

I thought the game/nongame debate was pretty distinguished mentally-challenged but I think I'm gonna fall in with dcharlie on this one. What is this
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 14, 2009, 10:33:01 PM
A good game.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 14, 2009, 10:39:14 PM
An amazing experience :heart
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: demi on February 15, 2009, 12:18:04 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
I left it sitting at the title screen for 10 minutes after downloading and all of a sudden I got a trophy

You act like that is original. Prince of Persia did it first ;\
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: cool breeze on February 15, 2009, 12:27:00 AM
yeah, but Prince of Persia was distinguished mentally-challenged because they expected you to contemplate the events going on and reach an emotional conclusion because of the powerful, moving story between Nathan Drake and an even dumber browner Natalie Portman.

Flower outright says "you got this for taking a break"
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2009, 09:46:58 AM
I played it again, beat the first level this time, enjoyed it a bit more. I'll probably try to buzz through it now.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 15, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Leper everyone who recommended this "game."

Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 18, 2009, 11:08:02 AM
Level 3 is pretty cool
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: pilonv1 on February 18, 2009, 06:04:08 PM
does your pollen count mean anything?

i enjoyed the first level but it's hardly amazing.

much better than that piece of shit flow though
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Third on February 18, 2009, 10:01:58 PM
You get a trophy when you collect 10000 flowers/pollen in the game.

Just got all the trophies. It's the first game where I completed all the trophies.
Title: Re: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower
Post by: Vrolokus on February 28, 2009, 09:14:37 PM
Okay, am I the only one who got acute fucking motion sickness from the last level?

I've been gaming for 25 years, never once got motion sick playing a game... but something about zooming up and down the buildings, wheeling around...  :-X