THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: etiolate on February 17, 2009, 07:57:10 AM
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Or does Eliza Dushku simply suck this much as an actress?
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I didn't hate the 1st episode, but i reckon it was a pretty poor start for the season. Next episodes better be better.
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Well, it's a Whedon show so I'm sure there's countless excuses as to why it sucks. :smug
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I am already getting this sense that the basic plot form revolves around women being manufactured with limits and seeing if they can get around their imaginary identity to be more than what they were programmed to be.
But I can't tell because Hulu stopped buffering.
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I am already getting this sense that the basic plot form revolves around women being manufactured with limits and seeing if they can get around their imaginary identity to be more than what they were programmed to be.
But I can't tell because Hulu stopped buffering.
Maybe if you were as awesome at internet as I am that wouldn't happen. :smug
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Doucheku cant act they needed a stronger female lead that could act for this show. But i'll continue to watch it, the story is promising but its gonna get canned me thinks.
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Obviously Whedon didn't fucking learn his lesson with Firefly. They fucking DEBUTED this show in the same fucking time slot as Firefly, and it will do just as well. They don't call it the "Friday night death slot" for nothing. Friday is a night where people go out with their friends to have a drink or catch a movie.
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I am already getting this sense that the basic plot form revolves around women being manufactured with limits and seeing if they can get around their imaginary identity to be more than what they were programmed to be.
Blade Runner? (or actually, more of Do Androids Dream...)
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I heard Whedon give the brief outline and it sounded way too stupid for me to accept.
Why can't Dushku not be in shows with the stupidest plots imaginable? She was some sort of ghost investigator in her last outing.
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Obviously Whedon didn't fucking learn his lesson with Firefly. They fucking DEBUTED this show in the same fucking time slot as Firefly, and it will do just as well. They don't call it the "Friday night death slot" for nothing. Friday is a night where people go out with their friends to have a drink or catch a movie.
I'm pretty sure he didn't choose the timeslots, Fox did. Fox is just screwing him over once again.
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i'm kind of surprised they keep doing business with one another
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X-Files spent its early years on a Friday timeslot. It's perfect for the geek market. The question is more about Fox having patience.
Watched the rest of the pilot. Interesting premise, but it had some bad lines and just lacked some of the qualities that keep Whedon shows out of the syndicated saturday afternoon sci-fi realm.
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does the first 5 minutes have the part with Eliza in the shoooooooooort dress?
if so, then no.
it doesn't get better
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I didn't realize this was the new Whedon series. Since GG was talking about it, I just assumed it was some gay cabaret.
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I couldnt tell you. I could only stomach about 3 minutes. Another shitty Joss Whedon show.
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I hated that firefly show, or was that the movie?
Terrible anyway.
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It's better than Angel and Firefly, atleast.
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Seemed pretty awful to me... but I'm no Whedon fan :-X
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Joss Whedon is shit. The sooner people understand that, the better.
The martyr complex Whedonites have is hilarious. Joss against the world!
1 part Sci-Fi
1 part Pop Culture
1 part full distinguished mentally-challenged
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1 part Sci-Fi
1 part Pop Culture
1 part full distinguished mentally-challenged
uh, not really, no
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things I didn't know until I started posting on forums:
-people hated on Star Wars
-people don't like Jurassic Park
-people think Buffy was a good show
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Truth -The only Star Wars movie I've seen in its entirety is The Phantom Menace
Truth - Buffy was fucking amazing
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I'd say its
Angel > Firefly > Buffy> This Dollhouse pilot
If we break it into chunks
Meat of Angel > Early Buffy > Firefly > very start of Angel > Dollhouse pilot > middle years of buffy > last years of buffy
I'm not a Whedon fanboy, in that I follow any Whedon net sites or the subculture of Buffy or the fanfic travesties, but I have certainly enjoyed some of his shows. My worry is that he thinks he's a feminist, but has horrible female leads or major female characters, and then does things with his female characters that make them completely pathetic and compromised. Angel was probably stronger because he had to deal with a male lead, and Firefly stronger for the same reason. Also, even though Firefly revolved around a buffy jr character, she was more a narrative device than a strong character that overtook episodes. Whedon makes interesting nerdy hot chicks that provide good subplots. Once he goes with focusing on the female psych, shit falls apart and you hate his shows.
Dollhouse and Eliza Dushku as its main focus seems doomed for those reasons.
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Obviously Whedon didn't fucking learn his lesson with Firefly. They fucking DEBUTED this show in the same fucking time slot as Firefly, and it will do just as well. They don't call it the "Friday night death slot" for nothing. Friday is a night where people go out with their friends to have a drink or catch a movie.
I'm pretty sure he didn't choose the timeslots, Fox did. Fox is just screwing him over once again.
Actually, what I meant is that he is stupid for settling on having a show on Fox AGAIN to begin with.
My only Whedon experience has been Firefly, which fucking deserved more than just one season and a shitty movie.
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shitty movie? wtf?
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things I didn't know until I started posting on forums:
-people hated on Star Wars
-people don't like Jurassic Park
-people think Buffy was a good show
Hahah holy shit EXACT same for me. I wouldn't even know about the hate about greedo shooting first or whatever without the lovely internet. I still don't notice the difference.
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things I didn't know until I started posting on forums:
-people hated on Star Wars
-people don't like Jurassic Park
-people think Buffy was a good show
Hahah holy shit EXACT same for me. I wouldn't even know about the hate about greedo shooting first or whatever without the lovely internet. I still don't notice the difference.
Me too. Except for prequel hate. It's sorta hard to escape prequel hate.
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buffy > star wars
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buffy > star wars
fugitive alien > star wars
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To be fair, M.A.N.T.I.S. was better than Star Wars. And VR-5.
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getting your junk gnawed off by a chimp off its meds > star wars
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being talked into naming your child Toshiro Lucas SURNAME by your film blogger baby daddy > starwars.
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willco == star wars
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star wars > monty python
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buffy is garbage :yuck
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shitty movie? wtf?
As a movie it works well, but individual episodes of the series were much better for one, and a lot of the characters deserved better sendoffs than that. I'm also slightly bitter because it destroyed my hopes of a possible revival.
I'm long overdue for a rewatch, however.
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
Power rangers fought monsters.
Just like Buffy.
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
Power rangers fought monsters.
Just like Buffy.
OMG they're the same then!
I guess the Power Rangers = Frankenstein = King Kong = Night of the Living Dead = Predator = do I have to keep going on?
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
Power rangers fought monsters.
Just like Buffy.
OMG they're the same then!
I guess the Power Rangers = Frankenstein = King Kong = Night of the Living Dead = do I have to keep going on?
Except we are talking about powered up chosen one characters, that use martial arts to kick the crap out of cheesy monsters.
Stay classy'
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
Power rangers fought monsters.
Just like Buffy.
OMG they're the same then!
I guess the Power Rangers = Frankenstein = King Kong = Night of the Living Dead = do I have to keep going on?
Except we are talking about powered up chosen one characters, that use martial arts to kick the crap out of cheesy monsters.
Stay classy'
So Buffy is exactly like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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Buffy is Power Rangers without costumes.
So Buffy and the Scooby Gang fought giant mechs instead of vampires?
Power rangers fought monsters.
Just like Buffy.
OMG they're the same then!
I guess the Power Rangers = Frankenstein = King Kong = Night of the Living Dead = do I have to keep going on?
Except we are talking about powered up chosen one characters, that use martial arts to kick the crap out of cheesy monsters.
Stay classy'
So Buffy is exactly like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Except TMNT was about monsters vs monsters/ninjas.
:tomato
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you keep making tiny distinctions, yet you can't see the differences in theme, character, plot structure, setting, musical score, and content between Buffy and the Power Rangers.
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:cookiem
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I don't know how anyone can confuse a horror action dramedy about vampires and the occult with an anime inspired show featuring mechs and shit aimed at seven-year-old children.
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Buffy is actually not all that bad if try not to take it seriously, and ignore it when it takes itself too seriously.
I actually agree: Buffy was at its best when it was funny and used the-monster-of-the-week to explore overdone teenage themes.
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Buffy was never good. Why do you hurt yourself so much, Malek?
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Buffy was never good. Why do you hurt yourself so much, Malek?
It's no Transformers. Or is it? There are giant mechanical robots in Transformers. So it's just like the Power Rangers, which is exactly like Buffy.
(using wricka's logic)
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Transformers never tried to be anything but dumb.
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Buffy was never good. Why do you hurt yourself so much, Malek?
It's no Transformers. Or is it? There are giant mechanical robots in Transformers. So it's just like the Power Rangers, which is exactly like Buffy.
(using wricka's logic)
Transformers doesn't have powered up human beings.
Learn to use my logic, or get out. :chinacry
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what's with this awarding points for not trying, anyway? if I spend my entire life without ever getting up to do anything but eat Doritos and read message boards, do I still get a thumbs up on the grounds that, hey, at least I didn't try?
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You might not quite understand, or believe it. But you've just changed my life recursive.
Not even joking. Damn. I'm gonna get that girl come friday, i don't give a fuck. That's right, cya
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Power Rangers* > Buffy
* - Original series
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I don't know how anyone can confuse a horror action dramedy about vampires and the occult with an anime inspired show featuring mechs and shit aimed at seven-year-old children.
Buffy's aimed at 11 year olds, way different.
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In this thread, evilbore members say stupid shit to anger malek.
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"I had four brothers and none of them were Democrats." :smug
The second episode was better than the first one. It was still disposable entertainment, but maybe it'll be better than Fringe, and I needed something to watch before BSG came on. Plus it has Helo in it.
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Yeah, the second episode was a lot better, but still not great. I'll give it a couple of more episodes. You normally have to wait a couple of episodes for a serialized drama to see if it will be good or not.
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Holy crap, the 2nd episode was just as bad as the 1st one.
This is cheesy as hell, and the whole episode felt like some Ranger Texas episode. I can see Buffy lovers liking this show, since that show was cheesy as hell also, but this is far from having the quality of other shows going right now.
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So Buffy is like Walker Texas Ranger now?
JESUS CHRIST
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The casting director of Dollhouse has the weirdest taste in people ever. Everyone looks like a fucking monster of some sort.
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So Buffy is like Walker Texas Ranger now?
JESUS CHRIST
I didn't even know grown man could like Buffy.
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I just actually watched it. It was alright. Obvious rip-off of The Most Dangerous Game, though.
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I hope this show crashes and burns. As hard as possible as a matter of fact. I would take delight in it.
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Holy crap, the 2nd episode was just as bad as the 1st one.
This is cheesy as hell, and the whole episode felt like some Ranger Texas episode. I can see Buffy lovers liking this show, since that show was cheesy as hell also, but this is far from having the quality of other shows going right now.
Buffy was cheesy in a Bruce Campbell movie sort of way. This is just cheesy, without the wink to the audience. It doesn't help that Eliza can only play an angry chick or a dead chick.
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Don't insult Bruce Campbell ever again.
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Watched the second episode this morning. It was slightly better than the pilot, but the show still sucks so far. I like Whedon a lot, so it's pretty disappointing.
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Just watched the thrid episode. Way better than one and two, so I'm probably sticking with this untill at least episode six.
And the chick who plays Sierra is fucking gorgeous. Slightly hotter than Dushku. And Whedon shows have ugly dudes. Like, David Boreanaz was the closest he ever got to casting an actual good looking guy.
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what are you talking about
Helo is a handsome man.
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The show is terrible so far. Everything just feels a little off and I don't give a shit about any of the characters. Bring back Firefly pre-Serenity and boot River and Simon off the show IMO.
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Helo is a handsome man.
He looks strange. I'd much rather get it on with Sierra.
About to watch the new episode...
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The chick who plays Sierra can obviously act. Please replace Dushku with her.
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FOX fucked up and put tonight's episode online early (in HD, too)
http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=dollhouse&ep=4523
Tim Minear wrote this one and it's pretty fantastic imo
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Good episode. Needed more Sierra and Dusku's acting still sucks.
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Sierra gives me a man reaction.
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This episode needed more Sierra. It was alright.
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Don't worry, Whedon says he has a 5 year plan for this show. :teehee
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Don't worry, Whedon says he has a 5 year plan for this show. :teehee
It probably wont even reach the first year of that plan. :lol
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Good, I hope this show tanks.
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t exp, will you ever stop being a useless bitch?
oh, and sierra is hott, btw
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Just watched the newest episode on Hulu, I'd say it's getting better. Or maybe I've just seen enough episodes to be invested.
Most JW shows are like that, they usually take a few episodes or a even a season to really pick-up, though i thought firefly was the only show of his that was great to start with.
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Me too.
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Dushku actually remembered that she's supposed to play different people this episode, and, as usual, Dichen Lachman and the people who play Victor and November did well. Hopefully this show gets renewed for another season.
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Dushku actually remembered that she's supposed to play different people this episode, and, as usual, Dichen Lachman and the people who play Victor and November did well. Hopefully this show gets renewed for another season.
Didn't you say this show wasn't getting a another season last week? :lol
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Whatever. I still look forward to this show every week, though. I honestly think it's more enticing than Lost is, but I've watched too much of Lost to just drop it.
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I've completely lost interest in this show but since it's only 13eps and will be cancelled I figure I might as well watch the last few. I gave it a chance until ep6, liked ep6, thought everything post ep6 has just been ridiculously stupid.
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I watched 5 eps, nearly gave up, was encouraged by friends to continue... and surprisingly it got a LOT better. Tons better.
So of course Fox has canceled it:
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/dollhouse-canceled.html
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Yay. Show sucked, Joss Whedon is a hack.
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Yay. Show sucked, Joss Whedon is a hack.
Firefly was awesome! Dr. Horrible was good too.
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Astonishing X-Men rocked!
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it was a mercy killing
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Firefly sucked. X-Men sucked. Dr. Horrible was good, but he wasn't really responsible for them music. The other Whedon is more talented.
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Firefly sucked. X-Men sucked. Dr. Horrible was good, but he wasn't really responsible for them music. The other Whedon is more talented.
:wag
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Firefly sucked. X-Men sucked. Dr. Horrible was good, but he wasn't really responsible for them music. The other Whedon is more talented.
The part in the train episode where the evil henchman is tied up at the end and is like "IF YOU LET ME GO I'M GONNA CHASE YA AND CHASE YA AND TRY TO KILL YA UNTIL YOUR DEAD FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE" and then the captain walks over and kicks him into the jet engine :lol :lol :lol
greatest moment in television.
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Terminator got canceled in favor of this, which is now canceled?
Awesome.
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Terminator got canceled in favor of this, which is now canceled?
Awesome.
I :heartbeat Terminator:SCC
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Terminator got canceled in favor of this, which is now canceled?
Awesome.
I :heartbeat Terminator:SCC
Me too. :heartbeat
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Terminator got canceled in favor of this, which is now canceled?
Awesome.
I :heartbeat Terminator:SCC
Me too. :heartbeat
I wanna be your human butt plug. :-*