Weren't the Republicans of that time the Democrats of now?More or less yes. Republicans at the time of Lincoln were the progressive party who fought for womens rights african american rights...etc, today the progressives are Democrats. Which is why it is hilarious when Republicans of today claim Lincoln as their own. And equally hilarious when modern day democrats claim Jefferson as their own.
Weren't the Republicans of that time the Democrats of now? (You know supporting FEDERAL shit.) You know and their ideology switched somewhere along the line?
You know very little about history I take it.
I'm honestly surprised that GWB didn't get last.
Yea, let's celebrate a President who can be partially blamed for Al Qaeda's growth, the Enron scandal and creation of the housing bubble. Not to mention NAFTA, kickbacks from the Chinese and many of his cabinet members resigning from scandals. Hurray Bill.
You know very little about history I take it.
I'm honestly surprised that GWB didn't get last.
You know very little about history I take it.
I'm honestly surprised that GWB didn't get last.
Actually History was one of my better subjects in school. But I honestly thought that the way people feel about GWB would cloud their judgement a bit since this is a recent set of rankings.
Yeah I totally agree, George W. Bush is why Bill skyrocketed in this ranking after his rather average performance in 2000's ranking. Being followed by one of the weakest presidents in history really helps one's legacy.Yea, let's celebrate a President who can be partially blamed for Al Qaeda's growth, the Enron scandal and creation of the housing bubble. Not to mention NAFTA, kickbacks from the Chinese and many of his cabinet members resigning from scandals. Hurray Bill.
I kinda co-sign this. Clinton looks good in comparison to what came before and after him, plus he had the luck of residing in office during business booms.
So why champion him for being listed so high? He certainly didn't do much of anything to deserve it. He stayed very popular for a very long time - that's about itIt wasn't logical, it was just a statement of my love of the guy. If I was making a ranking I would expect he wouldn't be as high on my list, top 20 though probably.
Yea, let's celebrate a President who can be partially blamed for Al Qaeda's growth, the Enron scandal and creation of the housing bubble. Not to mention NAFTA, kickbacks from the Chinese and many of his cabinet members resigning from scandals. Hurray Bill.
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The list is pretty good, imo. Clinton and Reagan should probably be a bit lower and Carter and Bush Sr. weren't as bad as some people make them out to be (and this list reflects that). I think once more books and reflections about GWB come out, he will fall even lower.
It's tough to be a two-term President in America. By the second term, the knives are out and most Presidents spend their entire term getting abused by the media and putting out fires.
Uh...this is a ranking by 100 of some of the most well respected historians in America, that isn't the type of person who'd rank Bush based on pure partisan dislike from recent years.
but when I see Democrats (including Barack Obama who did it a few times) claim themselves in the mold of Thomas Jefferson I lol.
Oh and Bill Clinton cracking the top 15. :bow :bow Awesome president who is even more vindicated by history about a decade after he left office.The great thing about Clinton is that he installed a hot tub on top of the White House.
Reflecting on the Clinton years, I had forgotten that he signed one of the greatest tax cuts in history in 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_Relief_Act_of_1997). We then experienced a few of the greatest years of economic growth we had seen in 15 years (when Reagan did a similar thing in 81).
I always try to argue with Republican friends (that still support Bush) that Bill Clinton was the best Republican we have ever had. Then I lay out all the things he got done (that other Republicans were incapable of doing) and they have no answer to it.
Bill was a pretty good President.
I don't get what was so great about Woodrow Wilson. Even history books don't talk about him because he was a piece of shit.Well, to be fair he did warn about WWII saying they can't treat Germany so cruelly after WWI that it would come back to bite us. Which it did.
I don't get what was so great about Woodrow Wilson. Even history books don't talk about him because he was a piece of shit.
Reflecting on the Clinton years, I had forgotten that he signed one of the greatest tax cuts in history in 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_Relief_Act_of_1997). We then experienced a few of the greatest years of economic growth we had seen in 15 years (when Reagan did a similar thing in 81).
I always try to argue with Republican friends (that still support Bush) that Bill Clinton was the best Republican we have ever had. Then I lay out all the things he got done (that other Republicans were incapable of doing) and they have no answer to it.
but when I see Democrats (including Barack Obama who did it a few times) claim themselves in the mold of Thomas Jefferson I lol.
By the second term, the knives are out and most Presidents spend their entire term getting abused by the media and putting out fires.