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Title: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 18, 2009, 11:46:23 AM: (http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-02-18-cartoon.jpg)

Stay classy, guys.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Tauntaun on February 18, 2009, 11:47:31 AM: :lol I love the expression on the chimp's face.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2009, 11:56:58 AM: i think the outrage is a little manufactured here.

presidents don't write bills.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:04:47 PM: Insensitive, not "racist"

Obviously there are racial connotations with the monkey, but I don't think that was the intent, which was simply to point out the stimulus is so shoddy, such a piece of shit that a monkey could have written it (not my opinion of course). Nothing more, nothing less. And of course, that's the general point/context behind comparing moneys to humans in most (modern) cases

I hope someone asks Obama about it because I'm 200% sure he'll have the same reaction I did. Sharpton is looking like a fool, again - this time even more so because the "victim" of such a vicious racist attack is the god damn president of the United States
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 12:38:02 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Obviously there are racial connotations with the monkey

:wtf why is that?
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 12:39:05 PM: Duckman obviously is unaware of the past couple hundred years of history.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 12:41:01 PM: Quote from: Willco on February 18, 2009, 12:39:05 PM
Duckman obviously is unaware of the past couple hundred years of history.

I'll admit that I'm constantly baffled by the history of racism around here. And, recently, absolutely taken aback by the interest that supposedly afflicted groups have in keeping the past alive.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 12:42:08 PM: What is "here"? If by "here", you mean the "United States of America", I regret to inform you that racism is still not gone.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2009, 12:45:41 PM: Quote from: Willco on February 18, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
What is "here"? If by "here", you mean the "United States of America", I regret to inform you that racism is still not gone.

whatever

black president

racism is dead
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 12:46:11 PM: You've got me there! :smug
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 12:46:33 PM: Quote from: Willco on February 18, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
What is "here"? If by "here", you mean the "United States of America", I regret to inform you that racism is still not gone.

I'm married into a primitive baptist family with southern roots. Trust me, I'm familiar with deeply rooted, casual racism. Some of the stuff that comes out of unchecked arguments still manage to surpris me, but not as much as when minorities see demons in every corner. It seems to be damned near the raison d'être for some.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:55:16 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 12:38:02 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Obviously there are racial connotations with the monkey

:wtf why is that?

While Obama isn't being compared to a monkey, the mere inclusion of an ape in association to Obama can be seen as insensitive given the history of such imagery. I'm not offended, nor did I jump to any negative conclusions immediately, but many folks have different opinions on this stuff

I just don't see the intent as being Obama=monkey or anything of the sort. It's more along the lines of "monkeys and type writers" which of course is a very old joke - such and such is so bad a monkey must have written it.

This is the type of stimulant that lights up victim receptors in certain black folk's brains. I realize that in of itself is a cultural thing passed on generation to generation but come on - the president is black. Can we put some thought into sensitive comments before blurting out the R word first?
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2009, 01:02:02 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:55:16 PM

I just don't see the intent as being Obama=monkey or anything of the sort. It's more along the lines of "monkeys and type writers" which of course is a very old joke - such and such is so bad a monkey must have written it.

actually in new york a helper monkey went insane and ate someone's hands and face off and was killed by the police

it's a pretty gruesome story
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 01:04:25 PM: oh shit :-\
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 18, 2009, 01:06:01 PM: Eric P, are you trying to insinuate that Obama ate someone's hands and face off? That's pretty racist. And outrageous.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2009, 01:10:40 PM: i'm sorry it was actually Connecticut

A 200-pound chimpanzee, who was a beloved sight in his Stamford, Connecticut neighborhood, was shot by police officers after he attacked his owner's friend. The Post reports that owner Sondra Herold, 70, was having trouble containing her pet Travis: The Stamford police said that Herold "gave him Xanax in tea to quiet him, but the chimp grabbed the keys to open the kitchen door, went outside and started banging on car doors to indicate he wanted to go for a ride." So Herold called friend Charla Nash for help.

When Nash appeared, Stamford police captain Richard Conklin said that Travis "went up to her, jumped on her and began biting and mauling her." Herold's nephew said that his aunt used a shovel to hit the rampaging animal and then took a kitchen knife and stabbed Travis in the back, but Travis didn't stop. The police arrived and apparently the chimp tore off the cruiser's mirror and opened the door, so the officer, trapped in the cruiser, repeatedly fired at Travis. The animal, now mortally wounded, went back into the home and was found dead in his cage.

Nash is fighting for her life; a paramedic told the NY Times, "I’ve been doing this a long time and have never seen anything this dramatic on a living patient." A friend told WCBS 2, "He bit both of her hands off and the cop told me he just kept eating her. It's terrible."
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 01:12:43 PM: Quote from: Eric P on February 18, 2009, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:55:16 PM

I just don't see the intent as being Obama=monkey or anything of the sort. It's more along the lines of "monkeys and type writers" which of course is a very old joke - such and such is so bad a monkey must have written it.

actually in new york a helper monkey went insane and ate someone's hands and face off and was killed by the police

it's a pretty gruesome story

That's what I assumed the target was when seeing the cartoon, connecting a common opinion of the bill to a previously unrelated story. Racism? I'm not seeing that, at all. Granted that I'm not perfectly familiar with the history of racism here, and obviously not from a black perspective, but this just reeks of a typical Sharpton move, trying to hog some limelight by blindly attributing a racist connotation to something. Seriously, what would this guy be without racism, and the history of racial struggle in America?

On a related note, xanax for a monkey. That's just a peachy slice of America right there.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: lordmaji on February 18, 2009, 01:16:39 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Insensitive, not "racist"

Obviously there are racial connotations with the monkey, but I don't think that was the intent, which was simply to point out the stimulus is so shoddy, such a piece of shit that a monkey could have written it (not my opinion of course). Nothing more, nothing less. And of course, that's the general point/context behind comparing moneys to humans in most (modern) cases

I hope someone asks Obama about it because I'm 200% sure he'll have the same reaction I did. Sharpton is looking like a fool, again - this time even more so because the "victim" of such a vicious racist attack is the god damn president of the United States

Real Talk.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 01:19:16 PM: Agreed Duckman. Sharpton is a disgrace. Calling someone/something racist is a pretty serious charge, but he uses it so loosely it almost loses its meaning.

not a wayne fan but
[youtube=560,345]Fb2mxFZzhuw[/youtube]
annihilated
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Brehvolution on February 18, 2009, 01:21:42 PM: I heard a sound bite of the owner of the monkey on the radio this morning. She said that she cooked for him, bathed him, and slept with him.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 18, 2009, 01:26:24 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on February 18, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
I heard a sound bite of the owner of the monkey on the radio this morning. She said that she cooked for him, bathed him, and slept with him.

And fed him xanax in his tea, apparently.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2009, 01:32:09 PM: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/17/chimpanzee.attack/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
"she was so mangled the police thought she was a man"

good lord
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 01:48:17 PM: A god damned 70 year old woman with a fucking drugged up chimpanzee, how in the hell could it have ended any other way? Are there no fucking regulations in place for what kind of pet you can own? It's not like chimpanzees are naturally non-aggressive creatures, and they have the strength of several mongoloids.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 18, 2009, 01:53:02 PM: There are laws, but she'd had the chimp before the laws were enacted so she was "grandfathered in". In fact, I think the chimp has been in several commercials and shit.
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Brehvolution on February 18, 2009, 02:59:45 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
A god damned 70 year old woman with a fucking drugged up chimpanzee, how in the hell could it have ended any other way? Are there no fucking regulations in place for what kind of pet you can own? It's not like chimpanzees are naturally non-aggressive creatures, and they have the strength of several mongoloids.

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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on February 18, 2009, 03:01:32 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on February 18, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
A god damned 70 year old woman with a fucking drugged up chimpanzee, how in the hell could it have ended any other way? Are there no fucking regulations in place for what kind of pet you can own? It's not like chimpanzees are naturally non-aggressive creatures, and they have the strength of several mongoloids.

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Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: lordmaji on February 18, 2009, 05:24:50 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on February 18, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: duckman2000 on February 18, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
A god damned 70 year old woman with a fucking drugged up chimpanzee, how in the hell could it have ended any other way? Are there no fucking regulations in place for what kind of pet you can own? It's not like chimpanzees are naturally non-aggressive creatures, and they have the strength of several mongoloids.

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Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 18, 2009, 05:40:24 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on February 18, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
I heard a sound bite of the owner of the monkey on the radio this morning. She said that she cooked for him, bathed him, and slept with him.

:tauntaun
Title: Re: It's good to see that the NY Post is providing such insight in these times...
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2009, 06:16:28 PM: I am deeply, deeply offended that the New York Post has chosen to make fun of the tragic death of a such a noble and beautiful creature. :maf