and please stop accusing me of being a slave owner.
my grandparents came here in the early 1900s from england.
the only slaves they owned were the irish
That's ok, my ancestor on my mom's side came here from Ireland after he killed the local British landlord. :D
That's ok, my ancestor on my mom's side came here from Ireland after he killed the local British landlord. :D
Heh. Limey Bastard got his. ;)
Whats's the Irish football team doing on the pitch?spoiler (click to show/hide)Looking for potatoes[close]
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Whats's the Irish football team doing on the pitch?spoiler (click to show/hide)Looking for potatoes[close]
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That's ok, my ancestor on my mom's side came here from Ireland after he killed the local British landlord. :D
On the other hand, my dad's ancestors came over from the Netherlands after the tulip blight or whatever it was called. Not nearly as cool.
Meh, your ancestors still benefited from the racist institutions of the US regardless of whether they were slave owners. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concernedEh, irish people were treated like shit when my ancestors came over here. My dad's side can't make that kind of claim though, they came from France lol. They've been in America for like forever, been here in Michigan since it was still a France province. No slaves for them!
For real Netherlands > Ireland.
I grew up in the Netherlands in the area where all the tulips grow.
http://greenportduinenbollenstreek.nl/userfiles/Landschap/keukenhof_molen_pict4470kl.JPG
Meh, your ancestors still benefited from the racist institutions of the US regardless of whether they were slave owners. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned
Holder is right. White people throw a fit at the slightest insinuation that they've benefited from slavery or Jim Crow or any other action. But it's not like they're the only people to blame for our lack of dialogue. Many black people play the victim card far too damn much.
Meh, your ancestors still benefited from the racist institutions of the US regardless of whether they were slave owners. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned
Holder is right. White people throw a fit at the slightest insinuation that they've benefited from slavery or Jim Crow or any other action. But it's not like they're the only people to blame for our lack of dialogue. Many black people play the victim card far too damn much.
i know and realize this 100%.
The issue is that i think if we admit that we benefited from slavery, that makes us open to attack as though we were complicit and approving of the enslavement of africans and indians.
Meh, your ancestors still benefited from the racist institutions of the US regardless of whether they were slave owners. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned
Holder is right. White people throw a fit at the slightest insinuation that they've benefited from slavery or Jim Crow or any other action. But it's not like they're the only people to blame for our lack of dialogue. Many black people play the victim card far too damn much.
i know and realize this 100%.
The issue is that i think if we admit that we benefited from slavery, that makes us open to attack as though we were complicit and approving of the enslavement of africans and indians.
It's certainly an unfair assertion. It isn't far or logical; just as there's not a single former slave alive today, there's not a single slave owner or slavery enabler alive today.
I don't think that's the main reason people refuse to admit they benefited from slavery though. There's still a lot of denial about the power of institutional racism today, and how it still effects our society. The playing field wasn't far for a very, very long time. Just 50 years ago blacks were legally second class citizens through much of the country, and that type of treatment had a domino effect on everything - from education to housing to jobs etc.
Oh look, farming in filthy Continental Europe.
:piss Continental Europe :piss2
Where is Sharpton, or Jackson for that matter, on AIDS in the black community. Or black on black violence. Or fixing inner city schools. Instead they focus on rap music, burying the N word, and satire cartoons. They're nothing more than enablers for the victim mentality.
Where is Sharpton, or Jackson for that matter, on AIDS in the black community. Or black on black violence. Or fixing inner city schools. Instead they focus on rap music, burying the N word, and satire cartoons. They're nothing more than enablers for the victim mentality.
My family were straight up, old school, southern, slave owners.
The only thing I know about my ancestors is that I have lots of Native American blood; my great great grand dad was Indian, don't remember what tribe. My grandma has blue eyes and straight hair, and my hair isn't nappy (isn't straight either)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/21/chimp.cartoon/index.html
This is why we can't have an open dialogue about race.
My family were straight up, old school, southern, slave owners.
:bow Cohen keepin it real! :whip :bow2
On the other hand, my dad's ancestors came over from the Netherlands after the tulip blight or whatever it was called. Not nearly as cool.
if Obama being president means we can no longer at monkeys, then we are all surely doomed
what do you mean "you guys"?