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Title: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 05:41:53 PM: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45796.html

doesn't seem like they will have your first character continue.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ass Defect, etc.
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Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: demi on February 20, 2009, 05:49:42 PM: Another BioWare lie, as usual
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 20, 2009, 05:58:55 PM: Its probably cause EA is publishing this as a multi-platform game. /sigh if true.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: brawndolicious on February 20, 2009, 06:23:39 PM: To me, it does look like your character is carried over. Why else would they mention everything about your backstory?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: demi on February 20, 2009, 06:25:20 PM: Quote from: am nintenho on February 20, 2009, 06:23:39 PM
To me, it does look like your character is carried over. Why else would they mention everything about your backstory?

The character will be carried over as much as Saint's Row 2 was. Shepard will die or fall in battle, and get revived in some Bacta Tank, complete with a new face of your choosing.

After the obscene amount of lies Mass Effect had, I have zero faith that anything they said regarding the sequel will happen.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Third on February 20, 2009, 06:27:55 PM: Awesome. Day 1.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 06:38:22 PM: apparently Bioware is telling you to save your, uh, save data

all I'm thinking is that Shepard isn't the main character anymore
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Yeti on February 20, 2009, 09:17:07 PM: Quote from: demi on February 20, 2009, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: am nintenho on February 20, 2009, 06:23:39 PM
To me, it does look like your character is carried over. Why else would they mention everything about your backstory?

The character will be carried over as much as Saint's Row 2 was. Shepard will die or fall in battle, and get revived in some Bacta Tank, complete with a new face of your choosing.

After the obscene amount of lies Mass Effect had, I have zero faith that anything they said regarding the sequel will happen.

I'm thinking it will probably be like Kotor 2 where at the beginning of your game you'll run into a character or NPC to discuss the events of the first game and the choices you make in your dialog will fill in the gaps.

NPC: "Wow, that Shepard sure was a sexy woman!"

You: >Yes
>Shepard was a man dumbshit

NPC: "Oh yeah, he was a man. Well, didn't you think it was totally hot when he fucked that alien?"

You: >Yes
>I wanted him to fuck the girl, but he fucked the alien instead. :(
>I somehow miraculously got him to fuck the woman, so you are wrong about him fucking the alien.

Later, as you are facing the main bad guy...

Main bad guy: "I'm going to fuck you up like when Shepard used ~~her vagina~~ his penis to have sex with ~~the woman~~ ~~the man~~ the alien!"
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 09:20:23 PM: Screw you Bioware! How dare you kill off my black space lesbo?!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: rubber feathers on February 20, 2009, 09:46:23 PM: edit: ^^^ the twos are different.
Quote from: Yeti on February 20, 2009, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: demi on February 20, 2009, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: am nintenho on February 20, 2009, 06:23:39 PM
To me, it does look like your character is carried over. Why else would they mention everything about your backstory?

The character will be carried over as much as Saint's Row 2 was. Shepard will die or fall in battle, and get revived in some Bacta Tank, complete with a new face of your choosing.

After the obscene amount of lies Mass Effect had, I have zero faith that anything they said regarding the sequel will happen.

I'm thinking it will probably be like Kotor 2 where at the beginning of your game you'll run into a character or NPC to discuss the events of the first game and the choices you make in your dialog will fill in the gaps.
They specifically said they weren't doing this. And a bunch of BioWare devs on their forum are telling everyone to keep their saves and stuff – why would they say this (and in the recent doc, and in interviews, etc) if they weren't going to do so? Especially since the game is only a year from release.

Speaking of release, I wonder when it's coming out. Going from EA's financial reports and their weird calendar it should come out in early 2010... but why would they be showing the game a full year ahead of time and miss the holiday season? EA's also going through rough times, and I would think they would want one of their biggest games to be available during the holidays.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 10:38:57 PM: What bullshit, I loved Sherpard. :-\

Also, in my game, Wrex lived. Losers.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 10:40:15 PM: Is the first Mass Effect worth playing at $15? Someone I can trust weigh in, plz. That excludes Himumu and Federwang.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: demi on February 20, 2009, 10:43:01 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Is the first Mass Effect worth playing at $15? Someone I can trust weigh in, plz. That excludes Himumu and Federwang.

Buy the Platinum version and send me the disc with the DLC
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 10:43:19 PM: Oh shaddup. I've never been a console or franchise fanboy.

Yeah, I'd buy it for fifteen dollars. The main planet quests are ace and the art design is pretty awesome, but as a RPG - it's very limited. There are also tons of side quests that are awful featuring barren planets that you ride around in your galactic dune buggy. The story is pretty cool, though.

And Wrex is awesome. :rock

Minus five points for Seth Green voicing some handicapped pilot, though.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 10:44:57 PM: No, you do tend to bizarre extremes of taste, tho- liking Jay Leno and bad horror movies, for example.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 10:47:35 PM: I never liked Jay Leno, I just love to troll.

I will watch about any horror film, however - doesn't mean I qualify them as artistic masterpieces, just guilty pleasures to keep me entertained.

Mass Effect is worth about $20. If I had to pay more than that, I'd be disappointed, considering you can run through the main quest pretty quickly and there isn't a ton of stuff to explore (or worth exploring, anyway). It rubbed me the wrong way after a save mishap, but after revisiting it sometime later, I've become something of a fan.

It's no Fallout, though.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 10:48:02 PM: Mass Effect is worth it for 15 bucks. It's not a bad game. It's just a well made but extremely flawed rpg. Still, it has a lot of good ideas going for it, and high replay value I think. Just don't expect Fallout 3 caliber and you should be fine. I think it's worth experiencing once if only for the fact you can punch a news reporter in the face if she asks too many questions.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: demi on February 20, 2009, 10:49:00 PM: evilbore Bring Down the Sky conga, we can do this
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 10:52:34 PM: What happened to BioWare? Each of their games has gotten progressively worse. KOTOR was pretty ace at the time although it has aged not so well, Jade Empire was fun yet deeply flawed, and I'm hearing that Mass Effect is, at best, worth $20. smh, BioWare. smh.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Tabasco on February 20, 2009, 10:55:15 PM: loved kotor. loved mass effect. will buy day one but will never forgive kotor mmo
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 10:58:09 PM: Hey now, let's not say things we can't take back. Mass Effect is a lot better than Jade Empire - but it also retailed for $60 and was saddled with Molyneux-esque broken promises (you can do this and this and this, but... not really).

I agree that as a developer, BioWare has yet to meet the bar they set with Knights of the Old Republic, but they did create a fantastic universe and group of characters with Mass Effect. As an original IP, it's far more interesting than any Lucas fan fiction and there is a great deal of potential with the story they crafted. The key is to pair it up with sound level design (no more fucking elevators!), interesting quests, more options, etc.

The framework is there and I'm hoping they hit this one out of the ballpark.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 10:59:10 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
What happened to BioWare? Each of their games has gotten progressively worse. KOTOR was pretty ace at the time although it has aged not so well, Jade Empire was fun yet deeply flawed, and I'm hearing that Mass Effect is, at best, worth $20. smh, BioWare. smh.

Actually, ME is their best game since MDK2. Which isn't saying a lot but it's way better than KOTOR or Jade Empire.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:04:01 PM: There's no way Mass Effect is better than Knights of the Old Republic. KOTOR was a deeply flawed game, but was unparalleled in its storytelling and gameplay at the time (on the console side of things, so don't scold me, Frag!). Its shortcomings were forgiven because of what it brought to the table.

Mass Effect has an awful command system, poor tactical management, some truly horrendous quests, tons of bugs, etc. It has all the rough edges that KOTOR had back in its heyday and then some. "Polish" is apparently a word that is alien to the staff at BioWare.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Third on February 20, 2009, 11:04:34 PM: Jad9.9mpire is probably the worst Bioware game out there. It was really underwhelming. A 6.0 game at best.

Maas Effect on the other hand is pretty good. Also a bit flawed. But the good outnumbers the bad IMO.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:05:01 PM: Quote from: Green Man on February 20, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: Willco on February 20, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
What bullshit, I loved Sherpard. :-\

Also, in my game, Wrex lived. Losers.

WHAT? HOW!?!?

You can talk him down, if you're awesome - like me. I got to use him the entire game and it was great. Friends come over and see me playing with Wrex in the later parts of the game and are like, "What the fuck, how is he alive?!?" :lol
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: duckman2000 on February 20, 2009, 11:05:12 PM: KOTOR was pretty drab.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 11:05:41 PM: Yeah, I was gonna have to say that for ME to be better than KOTOR to me it would probably have to bake me brownies and lick my taint. Loved me some KOTOR.

Oh Jesus, duckman right on cue. We get it, if it's not like one of three games you hate it. GO AWAY.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:05:43 PM: You're pretty drab.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:07:44 PM: I thought KOTOR's battle system sucked ass. I actually got enjoyment out of ME's. KOTOR is a complete step back from BG2, especially in regards to customization and classes. ME actually has an interesting class system and GREAT - although still not on par with BG2 - customization. ME is the better game, shit sidequests and all.

On top of this, Kotor is ugly as fuck. ME is really nice to look at.

I like KOTOR, but I would never replay it. I actually had incentive to replay ME. Can you make a space lesbo in KOTOR?! NOPE.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:09:27 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:05:41 PM
Yeah, I was gonna have to say that for ME to be better than KOTOR to me it would probably have to bake me brownies and lick my taint. Loved me some KOTOR.

To be fair, a lot of my enjoyment (and I gather a good majority of others, as well) stemmed from the fact that I was not totally fucking insulted by the storytelling - especially given the property. The prequels had pretty much damaged any interest I had in Star Wars, so my very, very low expectations were blown away.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 11:09:45 PM: Himu, you're trying to compare apples to oranges when you're comparing KOTOR to BG2. Besides, it wasn't about customization as much as it was about telling a kick ass story... as a jrpg whore I'd expect you to be all about it. smh.

Himu, you dumbass, you could totally make a space lesbo in KOTOR. You could make a female mc that would hook up with Juhani or whatever her name was. DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:12:08 PM: Juhani? That damn cat? Haha
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:12:36 PM: Yeah, what the hell at comparing Knights of the Old Republic to Baldur's Gate 2?

Next up, Himuro ponders why Super Mario Sunshine was not as good as The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Really, EAD? :wag
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:14:30 PM: I still don't see what's great about KOTOR's story. I think it has a pretty tame story, but then again, I think you have to be a Star Wars geek to really like it or something.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
You being Revan was great. But it didn't make the story great. That's just one small part.
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The highlight of KOTOR is, of course, HK-47.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: duckman2000 on February 20, 2009, 11:14:37 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:05:41 PM
Yeah, I was gonna have to say that for ME to be better than KOTOR to me it would probably have to bake me brownies and lick my taint. Loved me some KOTOR.

Oh Jesus, duckman right on cue. We get it, if it's not like one of three games you hate it. GO AWAY.

I'm pretty sure I said that it was "pretty drab," which would be a far cry from "hate." It would have been nice if it could have inspired that type of emotion, but it never managed to be any more or less than drab. Probably a hit among neo-nazis and morticians, though.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:16:29 PM: I wish I could fuck what's her face with a lightsaber.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 11:16:53 PM: Jesus Duckman, I'm gonna start going into the threads for the three games you actually ever enjoyed and start voicing my displeasure.

WIPEOUT SUCKS, GO AWAY

Himu, AK-47 is the best character of the ever, total confirmed. I was so pissed that in the sequel they cut out a sidequest where you went to a factory.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:19:44 PM: To be fair, Himuro, since Knights of the Old Republic doesn't feature hentai, loli girls and other assorted Otaku clichés, I'd imagine you'd think the story is pretty tame.

I'm going to disagree with you, Triumph, and say that Wrex is the best anti-hero that BioWare has made thus far.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:21:57 PM: My favorite game stories don't even feature what you just described. If it's anything Japanese it's probably Silent Hill related. I prefer western game stories to Japanese ones and I still think KOTOR's story wasn't all that great.

Although I must admit I'm tempted to replay it so I can kill off Carth.

I haven't played KOTOR2 yet. I've been meaning to, but from what I've heard Obsidian 1up'd Bioware.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 11:22:52 PM: WTF, a character better than HK-47? Meatbag, please.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:25:16 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
Himu, AK-47 is the best character of the ever, total confirmed. I was so pissed that in the sequel they cut out a sidequest where you went to a factory.

How is the sequel? I may get it after I finish playing all these RE games.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 20, 2009, 11:27:13 PM: Quote from: Himuro on February 20, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
Himu, AK-47 is the best character of the ever, total confirmed. I was so pissed that in the sequel they cut out a sidequest where you went to a factory.

How is the sequel? I may get it after I finish playing all these RE games.

It was a buggy mess that wasn't as much fun as the first. You'd find shit like hints at the beginning of a sidequest (the AK factory thing I mentioned) that were dropped from the final game to get it out on time. There were cooler force powers, tho.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:27:14 PM: Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:22:52 PM
WTF, a character better than HK-47? Meatbag, please.

I imagine BioWare is planning a spin off series entitled, The Adventures of Wrex and HK-47, which would probably be the greatest game ever.

Wrex set a new standard for intergalactic badasses.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 11:28:41 PM: Wrex stole all the attention away from Garrus, the real best character of Mass Effect

Quote from: Himuro on February 20, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
Himu, AK-47 is the best character of the ever, total confirmed. I was so pissed that in the sequel they cut out a sidequest where you went to a factory.

How is the sequel? I may get it after I finish playing all these RE games.

KOTOR2 is great. It's really just more of the same, but that same is still good. Just don't be expecting a good ending,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
or an ending period.
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Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:29:19 PM: Garrus > Wrex

Krogan testicles > all
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Tabasco on February 20, 2009, 11:32:09 PM: Ugh. I don't know if I can handle Andrews pissing on another Mass Effect for another year.

Wilco, I'm not saying it was flawless. I just really enjoyed the story and presentation. I love sci-fi like Evilbore likes its jappy fantasy. I loved all the shit in the codex. Most games try and hide all plot Lost-style in an attempt to make their shitty story seem mysterious. I think it's obvious they'll at least fix the loading and inventory issues, but won't believe anything they say about combat and DLC until I see it.

I still think something happened at the end of that game's development as Bioware got bought. There was a talk of a Gears level marketing spend by MS, and that and all the DLC never materialized.

I also saved Wrex b/c I always pump my speech skills to get bitches to do what I want.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:33:18 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on February 20, 2009, 11:28:41 PM
Wrex stole all the attention away from Garrus, the real best character of Mass Effect

Quote from: Himuro on February 20, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 20, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
Himu, AK-47 is the best character of the ever, total confirmed. I was so pissed that in the sequel they cut out a sidequest where you went to a factory.

How is the sequel? I may get it after I finish playing all these RE games.

KOTOR2 is great. It's really just more of the same, but that same is still good. Just don't be expecting a good ending,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
or an ending period.
[close]

Is the battle system better at least? The thing that kept me playing kotor was sense of obligation and the characters. As much as I think the narrative is pedestrian, since it's typical EVIL VS LIGHT star wars bullcrap, the characters and characterization was excellent. Except Carth. Carth sucks. Kaidan sucks too btw.

It's really hard for me to get into an rpg if I don't like the battle system. I really didn't get any satisfication from KOTOR's battle system.

Does Obsidian try efforts to make the star wars universe not so black and white in the sequel? Because that The Force stuff is gay.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2009, 11:35:33 PM: Yeah, the biggest compliment I can give BioWare is that the universe is totally fleshed out. I mean, it feels like they have species in the game that they could've made an entire game about, but in actuality, are just supporting characters or window dressing. The atmosphere is pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 11:37:02 PM: Quote from: Himuro on February 20, 2009, 11:33:18 PM
Is the battle system better at least? The thing that kept me playing kotor was sense of obligation and the characters. As much as I think the narrative is pedestrian, since it's typical EVIL VS LIGHT star wars bullcrap, the characters and characterization was excellent. Except Carth. Carth sucks. Kaidan sucks too btw.

It's really hard for me to get into an rpg if I don't like the battle system. I really didn't get any satisfication from KOTOR's battle system.

Does Obsidian try efforts to make the star wars universe not so black and white in the sequel? Because that The Force stuff is gay.

they're pretty much the same

The only thing off the top of my head that I remember different is that one game had a landspeeder time trial game in it. I don't remember if that was KOTOR2 or the first. Other than that, they really are very similar.

If you haven't played Jade Empire yet, just avoid it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:38:54 PM: I played Jade Empire. I sorta kinda liked it and then it just rushed to the end. Disappointing. The final boss battle was so shitty. I used the style thousand cuts or whatever, over and over. He couldn't touch me.

I think the main reason I liked JE was the fact that I turned Silk Fox into a ninja lesbo. That was ballin'.

Shame the battle systems are the same too. KOTOR's battle is so boring. =/ But at least it's better than FFXII!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2009, 11:40:32 PM: Quote from: Willco on February 20, 2009, 11:35:33 PM
Yeah, the biggest compliment I can give BioWare is that the universe is totally fleshed out. I mean, it feels like they have species in the game that they could've made an entire game about, but in actuality, are just supporting characters or window dressing. The atmosphere is pretty fantastic.

Agreed. Mass Effect has a pretty awesome universe Bioware made. I'd also say that going to every planet and having them all be the same, all with same buildings and all, just breaks the illusion of things. One of the great things about Fallout 3 is that as much as they focused on combat, you could level up a lot by doing exploratory things. Mass Effect 2 should really not make everything about combat, try to let you explore more alien areas, and not make 99% of the interesting stuff contained within the story.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2009, 11:42:25 PM: I hated how in ME, even though I loved the characters, I couldn't get them to say anything new past the half way mark. I also hated how the only way you could talk to characters is on the ship. That was gay.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: demi on February 21, 2009, 12:55:34 AM: You need max Intimidation/Charm to talk Wrex down / have main badguy suicide
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 21, 2009, 10:57:58 AM: Quote from: swaggaz on February 20, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45796.html

doesn't seem like they will have your first character continue.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ass Defect, etc.
[close]

Bioware has said already, in a video on the whatever version of Mass Effect that comes with a Mass Effect 2 "looking forward to" type of thing, that you will carry your characters from Mass Effect 1 to the next one.

But i guess they lied once again. They say Shepard die, so they can slip a new character in. Bioware am shit, blame EA for bringing it into the PS3etc
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2 teaser trailer
Post by: Yeti on February 21, 2009, 11:41:16 AM: I talked Wrex down too. 8)

If you do end up buying it, don't waste time exploring the optional planets. I say this as someone who did all the Kotor sidequests and loved every moment of it. I would say that the amount of game left over is easily worth $15.