For instance, I really enjoy Cowboy Bebop (I think Hitokage turned me on to that), but there are only twenty-six episodes, whereas there are several hundred Naruto episodes?
I was so disappointed when Ippo ended when it did because I could have watched 100 more episodes of it.and I think they're making more Ippo.
I read a plot summary of Akira after I watched it and apparentlyspoiler (click to show/hide)Akira (whatever that is) caused the explosion in the beginning[close]
When did they say that in the movie?
Looks like I won't be renting Beserk, then.
Japan needs to stop making so much crap - more cool stuff, please.
So what you're saying is that we have to nuke Japan.spoiler (click to show/hide)... again.[close]
most long anime are usually cartoons for children (or teens) based on comics for children (or teens.) Big reason why they're so long is because they often try to directly take a chapter or two and convert it to a 22 minute episode; in the case of Naruto and Dragon Ball Z, they got way too close to the comic and were forced to slow everything down, or just outright make up non-canon episodes to buy time. This is basically why DBZ had entire episodes of just standing around, it was all to buy time. If you want a good idea of how bad it was, they are actually re-editing DBZ to be more like the manga (as DBZ Kai) where they will take more than 270 episodes and cut it down to around 100. Roughly 170 episodes at 22 minutes each (62+ hours total) are completely useless to the story.
also watched the akira bd on my dad's new 60" kuro*, and for like the first 20 minutes with the bar and the bike chase and the riot and the guy running from the dogs and the music it's amazing. thereafter it gets pretty silly. but old hand drawn animu with a budget is always nice to look at, i suppose this is near the top of that category, and yeah, seeing this on a dodgy vhs tape in 1991 or whatever was a revelation
* i need to stay away from that thing -- my tv looks like a toy to me now
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then again, the last anime i saw was kamonozume over two years ago. i just hate what it has become since the early/mid 90s.
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then again, the last anime i saw was kamonozume over two years ago. i just hate what it has become since the early/mid 90s.
I don't hate the anime of the early/mid 90s. I hate what it's become since the early/mid 00s.
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then again, the last anime i saw was kamonozume over two years ago. i just hate what it has become since the early/mid 90s.
I don't hate the anime of the early/mid 90s. I hate what it's become since the early/mid 00s.
80s anime <3
People always tend to recommend Ghost in the Shell, but that looks too cyberpunk-y. Like, Akira, is about my threshold in terms of what I can tolerate when it comes to animated cyberpunk.
If your not into philosophical talky talky with action here and there, you won't be into the GiTS tv series. I personally love it and mostly all of the characters are portrayed rather mature. The zanny wacky jappy is contained to the Tachikoma (which I found to be endearing).
Like every anime though, the best of the best seems to come from series that tend to have episodes that have stories contained to that one episode. I found the best of GiTS did this. Not surprisingly, the animes that do the exact opposite (lots of filler, overly long archs) are the bane of everything anime (to me)
I really don't care for the vast majority of anime. I don't get it or the culture.
I guess what really bothers me is that I find a few Japanese animated properties that I like and they tend to be short lived, singular films or what have you. For instance, I really enjoy Cowboy Bebop (I think Hitokage turned me on to that), but there are only twenty-six episodes, whereas there are several hundred Naruto episodes? Goddamit, Arvie - this is all your fault!
the only three animes i could stomach were ippo, flcl, and cowboy bebop. it seems like a majority of it is regurgitated over and over again using the same character archtypes with similar plots. i really don't understand the appeal.
Anyone here ever seen Perfect Blue? One of the best IMO. It's still the only so called 'horror/thriller' anime that is actually creepy.
Anyone here ever seen Perfect Blue? One of the best IMO. It's still the only so called 'horror/thriller' anime that is actually creepy.
If you like Cowboy bebop check out Black Lagoon. It's Bebop with pirates.
Anyone here ever seen Perfect Blue? One of the best IMO. It's still the only so called 'horror/thriller' anime that is actually creepy.
For instance, I really enjoy Cowboy Bebop (I think Hitokage turned me on to that), but there are only twenty-six episodes, whereas there are several hundred Naruto episodes?
There is no culture.
how many years has the simpsons been on?
Anime fan culture is CREEPY, especially here in the states. Conventions = no thanks.
I guess what really bothers me is that I find a few Japanese animated properties that I like and they tend to be short lived, singular films or what have you. For instance, I really enjoy Cowboy Bebop (I think Hitokage turned me on to that), but there are only twenty-six episodes, whereas there are several hundred Naruto episodes?
80s is my favorite, but honestly, the 90s had a lot of good stuff come out. Even the 00s have had good stuff, but it's dwarfed by all the loli/moe crap that's found it's way into every single genre.
Especially since anime for the most part sucks.
Especially since anime for the most part sucks.
Most video games suck too.
Especially since anime for the most part sucks.
Most video games suck too.
most everything sucks
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Samuel L. Jackson doesn't make Afro Samurai any less dumb. Besides, if anything, Ron Perlman has more geek cred than Samuel L. Jackson.
I tend to avoid anything with "con" in the name.
SAMUEL L. JACKSON ASSHOLE. HE MAKES EVERYTHING AMAZING! EVEN THAT FUCKING CAVEMAN MOVIE HE WAS IN.Actually yes, that caveman movie (The Caveman's Valentine) was one of the better and more innovative mystery films of recent years. It also has one of Samuel Yell Jackson's best and increasingly rare actual performances. But then again, I'm a sucker for a good mystery, which brings me to...
I honestly can't think of any anime that's over 100 eps that I liked past that point aside from Yu Yu Hakusho, Detective Conan and One Piece (though this is SERIOUSLY pushing it).Hells yeah. I'll admit it, its a family show, it skews young, its repetitive (at over 500 episodes it would have to be). Its also briskly paced and each episode is usually based on a deviously clever puzzle, usually one involving some hapless character's violent death. All I'm saying is I think the world would be a better place if every kids show had more headshots, decapitations, and people bleeding out in inexplicably locked rooms.
Anyone here ever seen Perfect Blue? One of the best IMO. It's still the only so called 'horror/thriller' anime that is actually creepy.Damn, I love that movie. Its like an animated De Palma flick. Its great (and sick).
Manga is even worse.
Especially since anime for the most part sucks.
Most video games suck too.
most everything sucks
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There is no culture.
This simply is not true. Culture is defined as "... the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group", which definitely applies to the behaviors and characteristics of the Westernized otaku clique. Whether or not this culture originates from Japan is irrelevant - that is like saying that there is not a gaming culture (there is!).
And like I said, I don't get it.
I blame Arvie.
Go to an anime convention and tell me there's no culture behind it. There is. It's something I've tried to get away from the longer I'm in to this medium.
Anime fan culture is CREEPY, especially here in the states. Conventions = no thanks.how many years has the simpsons been on?
Crayon Shin-chan is like The Simpsons, it just keeps going on and on and on.
Hell, Sazae-san has been running on TV since 1969.
Manga is even worse.
Lyte edge, what's hilarious about those types is that they think just because they watch anime they're cultured because you know, it's a niche hobby, and it's not american!
this is why it's far more fun to be a sentai fan.fuck you manbaby! Kamen Rider is where the depths of the human/manbug condition are plumbed. Not that stupid juvenile shit.
Hells yeah. I'll admit it, its a family show, it skews young, its repetitive (at over 500 episodes it would have to be). Its also briskly paced and each episode is usually based on a deviously clever puzzle, usually one involving some hapless character's violent death. All I'm saying is I think the world would be a better place if every kids show had more headshots, decapitations, and people bleeding out in inexplicably locked rooms.
The only problem with Detective Conan (and really any show that deals with solving mysteries) is that repeat watchings are affected to a much greater extent than other shows, since most of the fun is trying to find out who killed who.Very true. But with a dozen feature films, and 500+ (near 200 hours) episodes, is the lack of replayability really a problem? Its probably hindered its popularity in America, as traditional anime selling techniques didn't work for it (3 eps a disc on a bi-monthly release, yeah, I'll get back to you), but the show itself never suffered for it. Hell, I've been intermittently watching it for years and I'm not even a quarter of the way through it all yet.
fuck that, real men watch Toradora.
Toradora!'s story begins with the male protagonist Ryūji Takasu who is frustrated at trying to look his best as he enters his second year of high school. Despite his gentle personality, his eyes make him look like an intimidating delinquent, so he is utterly hopeless about his chances of getting a girlfriend anytime soon, and does not have many close friends either. After being greeted by his hungover mother in the morning, Ryūji goes to school and is happy to find that he gets to be in the same class with his best friend Yūsaku Kitamura and a girl he has a crush on, Minori Kushieda. However, it is then that he unexpectedly knocks into "the school's most dangerous animal of the highest risk level"—Taiga Aisaka—who just happens to also be in his class, and is a good friend of Minori.
Taiga has a negative attitude towards others and will not hesitate to snap at people. After meeting Ryūji, she takes an instant dislike of him. Taiga comes from a rich family, but she has moved out to live on her own due to family issues. She is coincidentally living in an apartment next to Ryūji's. When Ryūji discovers that Taiga has a crush on Yūsaku, and Taiga finds out about Ryūji's affections towards Minori, Ryūji suggests that they cooperate to win the objects of their affections. Taiga exploits the fact that Ryūji will do anything to get closer to Minori. She makes him her personal servant, getting him to do all her household chores (cooking and cleaning). Taiga spends a lot of her time over at his house, so much that she could almost be considered a member of his family. Since Ryūji spends a lot of time with Taiga, he has opened up to her world and to a side of her that most people do not see. The two also try to help each other improve the way people view them. However people they know from school start to become curious about their strange relationship and rumors begin to spread about them behind their backs.
Examples of Quality anime -- Cowboy Bebop & FLCL
I dont think anime has gone downhill, the majority of crap we see now is just more noticeable then it was in 80s \ 90s. (probably because of the internet) There's still alot of great shows that came out in 00, that will probably be considered classics down the road like alot of 80s and early 90s stuff is.:bow short series :bow2
then again, the last anime i saw was kamonozume over two years ago. i just hate what it has become since the early/mid 90s.
I don't hate the anime of the early/mid 90s. I hate what it's become since the early/mid 00s.
Lyte edge, what's hilarious about those types is that they think just because they watch anime they're cultured because you know, it's a niche hobby, and it's not american!
You don't gotta tell me man, I was dealing with those losers for years before I left that game job behind. So many bad times. The elitist-types are even worse. Used to love drilling logic into them and shutting them up. "ANIME WAS BETTER BEFORE IT WAS MAINSTREAM. NOW EVERYBODY CAN GET IT." Yes, that means more of it and lower prices. It's a good thing for your hobby. "NO DRAGONBALL SUX N GUNDAM TOO IT'S ON TH' CARTOON NETWORK AMERICAN CARTOONS LOL LOL." I bet you liked Dragonball a lot until you saw some other nerds trash-talking it on the internet. It's a fun series. I like it. "BLEACH AND NARUTO R BET[iTER; MORE MATURE!" All these series are made for 12-year-olds. Get over yourself, these are fucking cartoons.
Manga's better than anime, but the fact is that most of these long ass animes come from mangas that have been going on for 20 years that aren't even close to ending.
Japanese people don't know how to end a fucking story. Then again, we're talking about the equivalents of american comics like X-Men, Spider Man, Batman and shit.
I read a plot summary of Akira after I watched it and apparentlyspoiler (click to show/hide)Akira (whatever that is) caused the explosion in the beginning[close]
When did they say that in the movie?
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"DON'T CALL ANIME CARTOONS!!!
FYI the Akira comic makes a lot more sense (though the last volume or two are pretty much just boring violence orgies, unfortunately). I liked it quite a lot but it did kinda get dull toward the end.
The movie is incomprehensible and its popularity is kind of surprising... though the animation itself is very nice.
I with more shows were as good as Bebop and FLCL. I'm pretty much always disappointed by anime... even if it starts out well, it usually turns to bizarre half-animated shit by the second half of a series anyway.
the first ghost in the shell movie is still my favorite animu. every several months i have to talk myself out of spending $100 on the import bdI'm sure you're aware of the recently released and re-tuned Ghost in the Shell 2.0? Its the original film with a redone score, 6.1 sound, redone CGI (the CGI was noticably bad in the original release), and all the animation has been fine tuned or CG enhanced. It was apparently done to make the original film more in line visually with its sequel and TV series. There's going to be an eventual American Blu-Ray release, you might as well wait on that. HD sample here.
no, maybe jin roh -- and i actually did spend some stupid amount of money on that bd
Oh yeah, ghost in the shell was amazingly boring. I remember waiting so long to see it and being so disappointed by the time it ended. I don't even remember what happened clearly. Did she fuse with another robot or something???kinda. I haven't seen it in years so I can't really talk about it now. But I recall quite enjoying it at the time. More recently I can say I really liked Oishi's live-action Polish sci-fi flick 'Avalon', which is kind of the same movie, only now even more obtuse and drawn out. What can I say, I'm a sucker for a effective mood piece and pretty pictures.
sac is full of the meaningless pretend philosophical babble that kills a lot of animeas a franchise, GITS mystifies me. It would be like making a Blade Runner II that's faithful to the original, so practically no action and even more heady talk. It just seems like such a weird foundation to build anything of mass appeal on.
I don't quite understand why there's such alot of crossover between gamers and peeps who watch anime. I mean I know why I do it, mostly escapism, but its strange to me how "nerds" often share such a common pool of interests.
Oh yeah, ghost in the shell was amazingly boring. I remember waiting so long to see it and being so disappointed by the time it ended. I don't even remember what happened clearly. Did she fuse with another robot or something???
sac is full of the meaningless pretend philosophical babble that kills a lot of animeas a franchise, GITS mystifies me. It would be like making a Blade Runner II that's faithful to the original, so practically no action and even more heady talk. It just seems like such a weird foundation to build anything of mass appeal on.
I'm sure you're aware of the recently released and re-tuned Ghost in the Shell 2.0? Its the original film with a redone score, 6.1 sound, redone CGI (the CGI was noticably bad in the original release), and all the animation has been fine tuned or CG enhanced. It was apparently done to make the original film more in line visually with its sequel and TV series. There's going to be an eventual American Blu-Ray release, you might as well wait on that. HD sample here.
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A lot of video games come from Japan and share the same art style, character design, and storytelling as anime would be my guess.
but did it really?
lmao
I have not seen the word "japanimation" since the 90's
The only word I hate more than "Japanimation" is "Electronica"
The only word I hate more than "Japanimation" is "Electronica"
What do you use, techno? Electronic music? Or just the names of each sub-genre? I love this kind of music but I'm such a noob that I sometimes can't identify which is which. :-[