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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Eric P on March 16, 2009, 03:52:02 PM

Title: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Eric P on March 16, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
just came across this in Kim Newman's Apocalypse movies:

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Even more far-fetched are those cabals of scientists and planners who decide the only way to forestall a world destroying event is to manufacture a paper dragon threat from alien invaders - a possibility that Ronald Reagan once mused about in public - that frightens the superpowers nto pointing all their weapons out into space rather than each other.  The concept seems to originate with Theodore Sturgeons' short story "unite and conquer" (1948) but novels on the theme include William C Anderson's Pandemonium on the Potomac and Martin Caidin's The Mendelov Conspiracy.

http://books.google.com/books?id=NX4THQAACAAJ&dq=apocalypse+movies+kim+newman&client=firefox-a

The book then goes on to reference this episode of the Outer Limits

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Architects_of_Fear
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 16, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
i've always had this nagging problem with the watchmen

spoiler (click to show/hide)
manhattan should have killed adrian, too
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Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: GilloD on March 16, 2009, 04:14:40 PM
Quote from: Eric P on March 16, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
just came across this in Kim Newman's Apocalypse movies:

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Even more far-fetched are those cabals of scientists and planners who decide the only way to forestall a world destroying event is to manufacture a paper dragon threat from alien invaders - a possibility that Ronald Reagan once mused about in public - that frightens the superpowers nto pointing all their weapons out into space rather than each other.  The concept seems to originate with Theodore Sturgeons' short story "unite and conquer" (1948) but novels on the theme include William C Anderson's Pandemonium on the Potomac and Martin Caidin's The Mendelov Conspiracy.

http://books.google.com/books?id=NX4THQAACAAJ&dq=apocalypse+movies+kim+newman&client=firefox-a

The book then goes on to reference this episode of the Outer Limits

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Architects_of_Fear

Moore includes a shout-out to this episode in the last like... 5 pages of Watchmen. The TV at old Silk Spectre's house is tuned to the Twilight Zone.
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Eric P on March 16, 2009, 04:31:52 PM
*cough*

outer limits
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: chronovore on March 16, 2009, 07:55:03 PM
Spoilers for Watchmen book? Other important aged spoilers: Darth is whiny boy's dad, and Rosebud is the dying guy's tobaggan.
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 17, 2009, 12:02:27 AM
well, it could spoil the MOVIE for some folks who haven't experienced it in either format yet.

There's nothing remotely new about the concept of uniting against a fictional threat; look at the foreign policy of any extremist government. The Jews weren't a threat to Hitler's Germany, yet he managed to unite the nation against them. The Watchmen plot just paints this in bolder colors.
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2009, 12:10:07 AM
space jews

someone call hollywood

i smell a hit
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 17, 2009, 12:19:52 AM
I'd heard about the Outer Limits episode from reading "Cult TV", which was apparently where Moore saw it.
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 17, 2009, 02:51:34 AM
Quote from: Eric P on March 17, 2009, 12:10:07 AM
space jews

someone call hollywood

i smell a hit

Orson Scott Card/BSG are mining similar territory for sure.
Title: Re: Watchman Book Spoiler in this thread
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2009, 09:37:37 AM
those are space mormons!