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Title: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2009, 08:41:20 PM
I'd guy-love Adama or Tigh.

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Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 20, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
I will be shocked if either Tigh or Adama survive the finale.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2009, 08:59:13 PM
I think Adama, Tigh, Roslin, and the Galactica are all going down in a blaze of glory. Lee will probably survive to lead the survivors. Starbuck, who knows? Baltar has done nothing but survive the entire the series; it would be ironic if he died at the very end. Maybe he'll make the ultimate sacrifice and redeem his humanity, or something. Or maybe everyone dies in a huge, fiery death.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 20, 2009, 09:23:48 PM
The episode goes long tonight. It's over at 10:11 CST, or 9:11 PST.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: GilloD on March 20, 2009, 09:43:24 PM
Apparently the very end takes place 150,000 years in the future. zomgogmogmogomgomgmogmogomg
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2009, 09:44:51 PM
Lost owned, if true.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Tucah on March 20, 2009, 09:51:40 PM
I'm guessing everyone who goes on the Hera mission dies in a blaze of glory. I have low expectations, but I'm still super pumped to see this. NINE MINUTES :hyper
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: GilloD on March 20, 2009, 09:58:21 PM
ONE MINUTES ZOMG WILL DISCUSS AFTER
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 20, 2009, 10:50:54 PM
It's recording on the DVR, but we're waiting for all of our friends to get here before we start watching OMGIMSOEXCITED!!!
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Tucah on March 20, 2009, 11:20:23 PM
I'm really, really enjoying it so far.

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HOLY SHIT EARTH OMG
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Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 20, 2009, 11:53:34 PM
Loser friends are still out getting beer, so we haven't started watching yet.

GODDAMNIT
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Tucah on March 21, 2009, 12:09:33 AM
I fucking loved it.

Until the ending.

:rofl

omg moore
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: demi on March 21, 2009, 12:10:39 AM
Battlestar Galactica confirmed a shit series. Loserrrrrrrrrrrrrs

Feel free to join us on LOST btw. A good show. Thats awesome. And not suck
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
What a great ending.

So Starbuck was an angel then as was head-six and head-baltar?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Tucah on March 21, 2009, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
What a great ending.

So Starbuck was an angel then as was head-six and head-baltar?

That's what I assumed.

Also, Lost was always the better show.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 21, 2009, 12:32:34 AM
that was interesting.

the action in the first hour was amazing.

the stuff in the second hour was pretty good.

the final scene was a head scratcher.

i didn't love it.

but i'm satisfied.

Now it's Lost's turn. Then 24.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:34:26 AM
Quote from: fistfulofmetal on March 21, 2009, 12:32:34 AM


the final scene was a head scratcher.
why's that?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 21, 2009, 12:37:22 AM
Quote from: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:34:26 AM

why's that?

wondering if it was really necessary. i mean when they showed Adama sitting there on the ridge I was thinking to myself "Hopefully there's a final resolution scene" but what they showed was just weird.

anyway, amirox has wedged himself into the Gaf BSG thread  :-\ i can deal with people who don;t like it... just not him.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
He is acting weird. He is angry that there is religion in it because he hates religion. He is acting like a baby who never watched the show before. God has always been a major element of BSG.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 21, 2009, 12:45:31 AM
Quote from: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
He is acting weird.

is it really weird? really? really?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 21, 2009, 12:45:58 AM
Quote from: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
He is acting weird. He is angry that there is religion in it because he hates religion. He is acting like a baby who never watched the show before. God has always been a major element of BSG.

I don't get that either. The characters in the show, particularly Six, were always talking about God and God's plan. Not to mention that you have things like people coming back to life and weird dreams and visions. Yet somehow he expects all that to get tossed out the window in the final episode?

"Well, everyone, turns out all this crazy stuff was just a weird coincidence and God never really existed at all! lol!"
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: bachikarn on March 21, 2009, 12:47:24 AM
yeah, it's fucking gay that Amir0x is shitting up the gaf thread. He barely posted in the thread, but then comes out in full force bitch mode about the finale.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: border on March 21, 2009, 04:14:25 AM
First half awesome.

Second half awful.

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The answer to all unanswered questions, logical plot holes, and unresolved issues: God did it!  If you enjoyed or were interested in the actual plotting of the show, it's a pretty big slap in the face.  I guess Ron Moore and the writers lost interest in the plotting themselves though.
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Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Kara on March 21, 2009, 04:47:29 AM
I swear I'm like the only person that didn't make the Kara ---> angel connection. When she vanished I just thought she'd taken a dive into the grass... it was pretty tall grass.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: GilloD on March 21, 2009, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: border on March 21, 2009, 04:14:25 AM
First half awesome.

Second half awful.

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The answer to all unanswered questions, logical plot holes, and unresolved issues: God did it!  If you enjoyed or were interested in the actual plotting of the show, it's a pretty big slap in the face.  I guess Ron Moore and the writers lost interest in the plotting themselves though.
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I mean. Did you ever read a philosophy text? That's how most of them end: GOD DID IT. George Berkley et al. I thought the ending was trememdous- It asks you make the same logical leap as any religion. And you either buy it or you don't.

On a side note, I was so on the edge of my seat the whole time that I drank a whole bottle of wine by accident and fucking threw up everywhere after.

Also, that 150,000 years later thing was hilarious and fucking stupid. It was like AI
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Kara on March 21, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
U drankin' AWFUL !
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 11:13:30 AM
Quote from: border on March 21, 2009, 04:14:25 AM
First half awesome.

Second half awful.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The answer to all unanswered questions, logical plot holes, and unresolved issues: God did it!  If you enjoyed or were interested in the actual plotting of the show, it's a pretty big slap in the face.  I guess Ron Moore and the writers lost interest in the plotting themselves though.
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The series since day one with the mini-series in 2003 implied there was a God who had a plan for them and guided them on a path.

I mean honestly, the God answer is better than other options. Head-Balter and Head-Six being angels of God is better explanation than them being like weird super cylons who can project themselves in people's heads or whatever. Caprica Six and Baltar being guided by angels to do God's work IMO is better storytelling than what the other more sciencey answers are.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 21, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
He is acting weird. He is angry that there is religion in it because he hates religion. He is acting like a baby who never watched the show before. God has always been a major element of BSG.

The problem with Amirox is that he's a great big blubbering vag.  Oh, and he also hits his mother.  Great choice for a mod, Evilore.  ::)
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Solo on March 21, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
As someone who has only watched S4 (all of it) and about 15-20 random episodes from S1-S3, I loved it. The first hour especially was so incredibly intense and engaging.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 21, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
I thought the ending was brilliant and absolutely beautiful, if not extremely sad.

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Poor Lee, he finally has the chance to be with Kara, and she's already dead.
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Fuck Amirox, God has been a huge part of this show since day one, he must have been busy beating his mom and doing drugs whenever it's been brought up.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Cheebs on March 21, 2009, 02:14:45 PM
Sorry to get off BSG talk here but wait, he beat his mom? What?!
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 21, 2009, 02:24:51 PM
I liked it. It may not have been the "perfect" ending, but I don't think there was any perfect way to resolve everything. The whole opera house thing, and Baltar and Six's involvement with Hera seemed a little tacked on, but I can live with it. Everything else I thought was great. It was upbeat (by BSG standards) but still depressing enough to remind you what show you were watching, it had an awesome space battle, it did a decent job of wrapping up all the loose ends, and we got a little Roslin cheesecake before she died.  :drool I'm going to have to say that the bed was not crapped. gg Ron Moore

I even kinda want to see Caprica now.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: ManaByte on March 21, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
Quote from: distantmantra on March 21, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
I thought the ending was brilliant and absolutely beautiful, if not extremely sad.

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Poor Lee, he finally has the chance to be with Kara, and she's already dead.
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Fuck Amirox, God has been a huge part of this show since day one, he must have been busy beating his mom and doing drugs whenever it's been brought up.

He's a fucking Jehovah's Witness; what do you expect?

And the ending was perfect. The whole last part where they find this Earth was excellent.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Kara on March 21, 2009, 03:45:03 PM
The ethereal has always been a part of the show but its presence was... absentee. To have them go, "yup it was all god's plan after all," definitively in the finale was overly convenient and felt contrived as a result even if the groundwork had been there from day one. That's information we should have had a season ago instead of knowing Raiders resurrect (cf. Scar) or that there was a black market.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 21, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
That was pretty rad.  Good jon, Ron Moore.

Anyone feel it was kind of sad that a lot of the characters make it to Earth, only to lose their loved ones, humanity, etc.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: ManaByte on March 21, 2009, 07:39:35 PM
All in all the series is awesome. But I still think B5 is the superior of the 2.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Lafiel on March 21, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
I thought the ending was great (almost perfect actually) it had a few problems though.
But most of those flaws are tied mostly to the fact the show had no long-term planning in it's mythology and plot, which is really not as BIG deal as neogaf is making it, since most television never has a long-term plan. :lol they have done a fantastic job making up the story as they go on. And keeping alot of the answers for the mythology open, was good too, trying to answer everything in full detail might've been to messy for a show that has no long-term plotting. And there's still the 'plan' to wait for, which will most likely fill in some of the details of the mythology.

I also actually liked the fact they made 'GOD' a big part of the show at the end, being religious myself, i thought it was a cool plot device to end it, though i could see some atheists hating the finale because of that. But i argee with karakand, that it came to conveniently, think head six & head baltar having a more consistent presence in this season might've fixed this. (and apparently alot of that was cut).

Another good thing they did for the finale was having the characters come first and the plot second, the send-off for all the characters was just to perfect, i almost cried at the roslin \ adama scene. :(

The 15'000 years later ending, was pretty cool too, (it was kinda predictable and un-necessary though), but i would've been disappointed if there wasn't a shock ending honestly. :lol


Quote from: ManaByte on March 21, 2009, 07:39:35 PM
All in all the series is awesome. But I still think B5 is the superior of the 2.
Word, despite how good BSG acting & characters are, it dosen't come close to the EPIC planned-out plot B5 has.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 21, 2009, 08:36:16 PM
Babylon 5 sucked.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 21, 2009, 10:02:37 PM
Babylon 5 is too nerdcore for me. I have a friend who adores it, and has tried to get a lot of us to watch it, but no one can get through the first few episodes. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.

Quote from: Willco on March 21, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
That was pretty rad.  Good jon, Ron Moore.

Anyone feel it was kind of sad that a lot of the characters make it to Earth, only to lose their loved ones, humanity, etc.

Extremely sad. We had eight friends over last night, and there was not a dry eye in the house once they made it to Earth.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bitter tears at 10pm CST if Ron Moore craps the bed)
Post by: border on March 21, 2009, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: GilloD on March 21, 2009, 10:21:53 AM
I mean. Did you ever read a philosophy text? That's how most of them end: GOD DID IT.
I wasn't aware that BSG was a philosophy text - I just wanted some entertaining genre fiction....a good yarn that doesn't have such a tacked on ending.

"Oh well they talked about God from the very beginning so it makes sense that God is the answer to everything and the master manipulator behind it all" -- that's such a load of horseshit.  Talking about God doesn't mean that there has to be some pulled-out-of-your-ass deus ex machina ending.

I suppose it ultimately does parallel religion, because you have to ask "If God is in control, why does he do everything in such a stupid convoluted way?"  (eg. Why send Kara back as Jesus Christ if she doesn't know what she's doing and needs yet another angel to show her what the fuck to do?)  The most common answer to such a question is of course "God works in mysterious ways blah blah blah."  So as with religion, you'll either buy into the "mysterious ways" clause or you won't.

"The God answer is better than other options"

The only reason you can say this is because they wrote themselves so deep into a hole that there wasn't any other way out of it besides the God nonsense.  If they had actually had time and forethought I think far cooler and more satisfying things could have happened.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 21, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: distantmantra on March 21, 2009, 10:02:37 PM
Extremely sad. We had eight friends over last night, and there was not a dry eye in the house once they made it to Earth.

Tyrol lives out his life all alone.  Adama loses Roslin, lives out his life alone.  Lee loses Kara, lives out his life alone.  Baltar became the thing he hated - a farmer.  Kind of depressing, really.

Life on a Battlestar is really that bad?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 22, 2009, 01:05:42 AM
Quote from: Willco on March 21, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: distantmantra on March 21, 2009, 10:02:37 PM
Extremely sad. We had eight friends over last night, and there was not a dry eye in the house once they made it to Earth.

Tyrol lives out his life all alone.  Adama loses Roslin, lives out his life alone.  Lee loses Kara, lives out his life alone.  Baltar became the thing he hated - a farmer.  Kind of depressing, really.

In spite of everything, everyone seemed to find some measure of peace at the end. I feel the worst for Tyrol, he's got nobody left and nothing to live for, and he's going to go live by himself in Greenland. At least he got to choke that bitch first, though.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 22, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
shit ending, regret series total

thinking of jumping to Lost
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Boogie on March 22, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
Border, how do you get the idea that the finale expressly pushed "GOD did it" as an explanation?

Yes, Baltar interprets the way things ended up as "Divine guidance", but in my opinion, things such as Kara's fate, Head Six and Head Baltar, the presence of genetically compatible humans on Earth 2, remain as mysteries, that SOME CHARACTERS on the show attribute to "God".

But that doesn't seem explicit to me. 

especially considering one of the final lines of the show.  "You know it doesn't like to be called that"

I loved just about everything about the finale, including how certain things were left as mysteries.  I honestly loved when Starbuck just....disappeared.

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also, amirox is the biggest douche on the internet
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Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 22, 2009, 11:30:40 PM
Quote from: Boogie on March 22, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
especially considering one of the final lines of the show.  "You know it doesn't like to be called that"

That line has stuck with me. It's haunting. I wonder if Caprica will shed any light on it, or if we're going to be forever in the dark?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: border on March 23, 2009, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: Boogie on March 22, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
Border, how do you get the idea that the finale expressly pushed "GOD did it" as an explanation?
That's as disingenuous as Intelligent Design supporters who claim it's okay to teach their theory in public schools because ID does not specify a deity as "Creator".  Yes, GOD itself is never specified explicitly but given the capabilities that this ethereal force wields there aren't many other options to chose from.

What else could the "It" be?  Some kind of immortal alien overlord capable of resurrecting humans?  I'm not sure how that would be more satisfying as an explanation.

At this point, I wish I could lead myself to believe that the show still had some mysteries but I think it's pretty clear that the most easily intuited answer (Divine Intervention) is the one that was intended.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 23, 2009, 04:47:52 AM
:bow border :bow2

dropping truth bombs like Moore drops unresolved plot points
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 23, 2009, 10:17:01 AM
Eh, I don't think they were unresolved - it was just that some of the resolutions were contrived.  And quite frankly, if our discussion after the finale is that Moore and Co. weren't as clever as we thought, I can live with that.

I walked away relatively satisfied, even with some contrived resolutions and the almost depressing denouement, which is pretty good for any serialized drama, well enough a science fiction one.

This could've been a trainwreck.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 23, 2009, 11:10:43 AM
I'm feeling less at ease with the finale the more I think on it, but still, people expecting a serialized drama to be completely mapped out from day one as if lacking that is somehow a measure of quality has always been a pet peeve of mine.

I'd imagine running a show, especially with an uncertain number of years to air, is pretty much constantly just trying to keep your head above water. Sad, but true.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 23, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
I felt there was a good sense of closure to the series and was satisfied.  It didn't blow me away, but I walked away content.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: GilloD on March 23, 2009, 01:05:08 PM
I felt like far from being a cop out, it was radically ballsy. To just say to a TV audience, "You must now make with me the same leap of faith all persons make when being spiritual". That's gutsy. I don't see the point in arguing it- This is a classic 50/50 split. You either found it beautiful and moving and satisfying or you found it cheap and hollow. I'm in the former. BSG has much, much, much to do with my current investment in the Christian faith, so I found the finale stunning.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 23, 2009, 01:29:07 PM
yeah, but Moore's an devout atheist so I find his preachy new-age spirituality to be in rather poor taste

in fact, any time the characters talked about "God" or "God's plan" I could only hear "Moore" or "Moore's plan."

my problem isn't that stuff wasn't planned out from day one - it's that Moore clearly got bored and didn't give a shit about where the show was going (or rather, where the show had been) by midway through season 3. He showruns like a cat, distracted by the next big shiny object.

C-

Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 23, 2009, 02:27:21 PM
After having watched the entire series, I'm not appalled that faith or spirituality was injected into the finally, it's been a constant theme. I kinda felt though the validating their beliefs by explicity showing divine intervention kind of went against what I felt would've been more consistent, if they let that mystery go unsolved.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Lone on March 25, 2009, 01:39:02 PM
Here's something I'm pasting from Memles' website on Television reviews:

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If they don’t find the charred Earth first, then Dualla doesn’t kill herself, which means Gaeta probably doesn’t launch the coup, which means Anders doesn’t get shot in the head and turned into a Hybrid, which means Galactica can’t find or reasonably fight Cavil’s forces, which means Kara’s not placed in a position where she has to jump the ship based on nothing but the notes to “All Along the Watchtower,” which means they don’t get to the good Earth.

Interesting String Theory...
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: border on March 25, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
Kara is an angel that God could have pre-programmed with the coordinates to Earth instead of making them fuck around for another 20 episodes.  None of that shit actually had to happen to allow Galactica to find earth.

Another gem from Memles though:
The result was, in a bit of a fascinating twist, the realization that for the most part this Finale could be viewed directly after Season Three and still be an effective emotional climax to the series.

Season 4 is entirely unnecessary, which is of course what I was just saying..
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 25, 2009, 07:48:08 PM
I forget, but did charred earth actually be shown to have earth continents?
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Kara on March 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 25, 2009, 10:27:59 PM
Quote from: Karakand on March 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
Yup.
I don't know then, the whole divine intervention through visions and 'angels' and prophecy I guess I can take, God manufacturing a whole other earth for them (or did they just travel back in time to the nuked earth pre-nuked) is more then I'd prefer.

I'd assume it'd have to be a 2nd new cloned Earth because otherwise the whole Kara getting coordinates from All Along the Watchtower would have been completely moot, no? And now we just injected fucking Creationism into a science fiction show, delightful.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Boogie on March 26, 2009, 01:42:25 AM
Quote from: Karakand on March 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
Yup.

Umm, what?  I don't recall them showing continent shapes of charred Earth from space.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 26, 2009, 02:22:03 AM
Quote from: Boogie on March 26, 2009, 01:42:25 AM
Quote from: Karakand on March 25, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
Yup.

Umm, what?  I don't recall them showing continent shapes of charred Earth from space.

I don't remember that, either. They did a very good job at never giving us anything that looked specifically like "our" Earth.
Title: Re: BSG Celebration Thread (Bed left uncrapped)
Post by: Kara on March 26, 2009, 04:08:25 AM
Quote from: Boogie on March 26, 2009, 01:42:25 AM
Umm, what?  I don't recall them showing continent shapes of charred Earth from space.
Final shot of "Crossroads" Part II

(http://i40.tinypic.com/33jlffd.jpg)

edit: Hmmmmm Battlestar wiki claims this is Second Earth even though it was season 3's finale. Not really sure how they got that.

edit2: OK now I see how, Kara's survey photos of First Earth.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/295xv1j.png)

edit3: How could anyone think that looked hospitable?