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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Rman on March 21, 2009, 04:09:34 AM

Title: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Rman on March 21, 2009, 04:09:34 AM
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German police say at least one of the identical twin brothers Hassan and Abbas O. may have perpetrated a recent multimillion euro jewelry heist in Berlin. But because of their indistinguishable DNA, neither can be individually linked to the crime. Both were set free on Wednesday.

WOW!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,614245,00.html
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Diunx on March 21, 2009, 04:22:36 AM
I shall make them Batman villians and sell them to DC comics, them my career as a comic book writer begins.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 21, 2009, 06:07:12 AM
Wouldn't a couple of polygraph tests circumvent this?

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According to the daily, the twins sent a message that they were "proud of the German constitutional state and gave it their thanks

:lol
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Veidt on March 21, 2009, 06:09:28 AM
lie detectors. Why aren't they used more?
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Tieno on March 21, 2009, 06:10:29 AM
Wouldn't a couple of polygraph tests circumvent this?

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According to the daily, the twins sent a message that they were "proud of the German constitutional state and gave it their thanks

:lol
Don't think polygraph tests are considered sufficient/conclusive evidence in Germany.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 21, 2009, 06:12:44 AM
Well technically they aren't in the US either, but you think a DNA link coupled with a positive polygraph from one of them would be enough to get the conviction.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Tieno on March 21, 2009, 06:31:47 AM
Seems like I could be wrong and in most Euro countries they aren't even considered reliable evidence.

In most European jurisdictions, polygraphs are not considered reliable evidence and are not generally used by police forces. However, in any lawsuit, an involved party can order a psychologist to write an opinion based on polygraph results to substantiate the credibility of its claims. The party must bear the expense themselves, and the court weighs the opinion like any other opinion the party has ordered. Courts themselves do not order or pay for polygraph tests. In most cases, polygraph tests are voluntarily taken by a defendant in order to substantiate his or her claims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph_test#Europe
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 21, 2009, 06:52:22 AM
Courts themselves do not order or pay for polygraph tests

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph_test#Europe

Yeah, that explains it.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Tieno on March 21, 2009, 06:53:39 AM
lie detectors. Why aren't they used more?
Coincidentally, I had a class about lying and liedetection last thursday. Biggest problem is that to get the best results you need to compare the behaviour you're watching (physiologically, speech, expressions, micro expressions, etc) to that person's normal (baseline) behaviour...Since that's usually impossible in these sorts of cases it's very hard to get reliable results.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on March 21, 2009, 12:30:34 PM
For some reason I thought this was going to be about the baseball team.  I must've forgot where I was at.
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on March 21, 2009, 12:34:52 PM
fuck lie detectors

watch this video:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZTt_Ciiws[/youtube]
Title: Re: Twins commit the perfect crime.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 21, 2009, 01:01:54 PM
I think this was a law and order episode!  I know I've heard of this plot before.