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Title: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: ManaByte on April 18, 2009, 04:54:19 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/17/the-hobbit-plans-change-del-toro-and-jackson-spill-new-details/

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The upcoming 20th birthday of Empire Magazine has been guest edited by none other than Steven Spielberg. By the power of his magical directing beard, he appears to have secured some rather nifty exclusives for the mag, and now they’re starting to flood out.

Quite impressively, they’ve got the scoop on Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro’s revised plans for The Hobbit. Previously we’d been told that they were going to make two films, the first an adaptation the novel and the second to bridge the gap between that book and The Fellowship of the Ring. Now, however, it seems that The Hobbit itself is going to take up two full length pictures all by itself.

Empire quote each of the Hobbitmasters. Here’s Del Toro:

    "We’ve decided to have The Hobbit span the two movies, including the White Council and the comings and goings of Gandalf to Dol Guldur."

And Jackson:

    "We decided it would be a mistake to try to cram everything into one movie. The essential brief was to do The Hobbit, and it allows us to make The Hobbit in a little more style, if you like, of the trilogy."

There was a rumor recently that Del Toro would have a whole trilogy to play with, not two films but Jackson’s comment here about ‘the essential brief’, stepping down from the original plan and suggesting this new idea was how they’d be fulfilling their obligation, leaves me with the impression that the bridge narrative has been ditched altogether.

I’m assuming this spells the end of fan dreams to see Viggo Mortenson’s Aragorn in action again. Here’s hoping Jackson is just keeping a potential third film under his hat and the old rumours were based on something solid.

The special issue of Empire magazine hits UK shelves on the 23rd, and promises much more on The Hobbit, not to mention Tintin and lord knows what else Spielberg has won them access to.
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Post by: duckman2000 on April 18, 2009, 04:55:14 PM
:piss Peter Jackson :piss2
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Post by: Fresh Prince on April 18, 2009, 05:02:05 PM
Greatest director alive ;)
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 18, 2009, 05:02:10 PM
Whatever. When am I gonna get Hellboy 3?
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Post by: Veidt on April 18, 2009, 05:04:54 PM
never

 :-\
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Post by: Greatness Gone on April 18, 2009, 05:05:48 PM
Q - Will Jackson ever work on anything better than Heavenly Creatures?

A - No.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 18, 2009, 05:11:23 PM
As if the homoerotic shit by Frodo and Sam wasn't enough in LOTR, Del Toro and Jackson are gonna gives 2 whole movies just about that kind of gay ass shit.
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 05:11:46 PM
Why does The Hobbit need two movies? That book is short as hell.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
Yea, you could tell the Hobbit in one movie and still include White Council stuff. I'm sure both movies will rock, and two is better than one...but hmmm. The Hobbit is not LOTR..

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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 18, 2009, 06:09:37 PM
trying to do The Hobbit in the style of LOTR is kind of lame IMO.  the book was tonally different and was a children's book, so I think the movie should be as well.
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Post by: The Sceneman on April 18, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding guy (not his words).
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 18, 2009, 07:37:48 PM
who cares
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 07:55:23 PM
yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding cunt

boohoo he demands excellence. tell your friend to stop bitching, he should be happy to be working for the greatest director in film today :bow
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Post by: Greatness Gone on April 18, 2009, 08:09:29 PM
^ ahahahahahaha
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 08:21:18 PM
Whatever. When am I gonna get Hellboy 3?
This project is going to keep Del Toro occupied till 2013 I believe. So probably not for quite a while.
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Post by: Solo on April 18, 2009, 08:26:25 PM
yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding cunt

boohoo he demands excellence. tell your friend to stop bitching, he should be happy to be working for the greatest director in film today :bow

Did Scorsese, PTA, Spielberg, and about 1000 other guys die and no one told me?
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
The Frighteners was awesome.
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 10:32:57 PM
Yea, you could tell the Hobbit in one movie and still include White Council stuff. I'm sure both movies will rock, and two is better than one...but hmmm. The Hobbit is not LOTR..



Of course you can. I'm sure the 70's (or was it 80's) cartoon of the Hobbit will be better than this. An adaptation does not need to have every single thing in the original in it. The Hobbit cartoon is an excellent movie and for the most part, has basically every single important part in the book.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 10:45:28 PM
Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though.  :-[ CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 10:46:32 PM
It owned. Shut up!
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
And yeah, I grew up on those LOTR and Hobbit cartoons. When I was a little kid, on trips, my father would bring his Minds Eye Lord of the Rings tapes and we'd listen to the whole story on our trips.  :-[ I guess I'm letting nostalgia cloud my judgment?

I dunno. The soundtrack owned.

[youtube=560,345]XSHLGnexe-w[/youtube]

:bow :bow :bow

 :-[

And Cheebs, you DO realize that The Hobbit and LotR are FULL of songs and shit? I mean, the books. The songs in the cartoon do the book justice and keep the story feeling like a crazy ol' tale throughout.
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2009, 10:54:24 PM
Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though.  :-[ CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.

2 LOTR animated movies?  I thought there was only the one.  Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?

Yes. Cheebs is dum dum
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 11:10:05 PM
Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though.  :-[ CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.

2 LOTR animated movies?  I thought there was only the one.  Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?

LOTR and ROTK were the two.


Oh and to destroy any of your memories of these things:
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y[/youtube]
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Post by: Greatness Gone on April 18, 2009, 11:12:29 PM
That's tight. Did New Order produce it's OST or something?
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 11:15:17 PM
That's tight. Did New Order produce it's OST or something?
Hah, that was nothing. This is the greatest song ever.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_ocZLaRdI[/youtube]
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
I've never head of ROTK  :o.  I have the hobbit and LOTR on VHS though. 
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 11:24:19 PM
I've never head of ROTK  :o.  I have the hobbit and LOTR on VHS though. 
Then you've missed this:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=864VY2jux7U)
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 11:24:56 PM
er...
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=864VY2jux7U[/youtube]
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 18, 2009, 11:25:56 PM
Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap.  GTFO of here with that crap.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
The animated LOTR cartoon was pretty cool, and convinced me to read the books
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 18, 2009, 11:27:46 PM
Ya these kind of music videos don't belong here.  Post them in Malek's log.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wish I were a hobbit.
[close]
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 11:28:01 PM
Oh my God. FUCK YOU CHEEBS
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
Ya these kind of music videos don't belong here.  Post them in Malek's log.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wish I were a hobbit.
[close]

All I 'd do is smoke weed, eat cakes, and drink cake all day if i were a hobbit.

Imagine trying to trim your pubes if you were a hobbit.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 11:29:21 PM
Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap.  GTFO of here with that crap.
I agree, I just had to destroy Himu's memories of their shittyness.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 18, 2009, 11:30:05 PM
The animated LOTR cartoon was pretty cool, and convinced me to read the books

There you go, the Mark Halperin of pop culture has spoken.  "This was a good week for John McCain" indeed.

Himu, stfu or I'll mail you some bacon.
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Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 11:30:25 PM
MY MEMORIES

Himu, stfu or I'll mail you some bacon.

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Post by: BlueTsunami on April 18, 2009, 11:31:33 PM
I think it'll be fine. Sure the book is short but the amount of areas that are explored, it would probably come off as rushed in a single movie (trying to run through each area, Middle Earth Gambit). Though, I'm sure the split between the movies will probably be awkward.
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Post by: Diunx on April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

I would rather get an At the Mountains of Madness movie, but that ain't gonna happen.
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Post by: Rman on April 19, 2009, 12:08:29 AM
Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap.  GTFO of here with that crap.
.
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Post by: BlueTsunami on April 19, 2009, 12:13:42 AM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

I would have get an At the Mountains of Madness movie, but that ain't gonna happen.

Del Toro better get on this before he's ultimately diagnosed with diabeetus
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Post by: drew on April 19, 2009, 12:22:57 AM
who gives a fucking fuck
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2009, 01:10:14 AM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

Why, they suck
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2009, 01:23:18 AM
Del Toro: "LOL, we were just joking about making two Hobbit movies. We actually just made that up to get New Line to cough up an extra $200 Million for a different movie I wanted to make. Please enjoy The Hobbit 2: At the Mountains of Madness."
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Post by: ToxicAdam on April 19, 2009, 02:04:29 AM
I read The Hobbit when I was 8. The only thing that was cool was Gollum. Who I believe doesn't appear until about halfway into the book and then disappears for the rest of the story. The rest of the book was an utter bore.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 19, 2009, 02:36:41 AM
Smaug was cool because hey, you know, dragons n' shit.
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Post by: Diunx on April 19, 2009, 02:49:55 AM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

Why, they suck

I enjoyed them, I'm kind of sick of lord of the rings, I would rather watch hellboy kicking ass and changing diapers than a hobbit walking around middle earth.
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Post by: Greatness Gone on April 19, 2009, 02:52:20 AM
I'd rather watch Camp Rock 2 or Eating Out 3: The Eating of Marco Dapper's Asshole instead another Peter Jackson or del Toro directed/produced film.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2009, 03:01:01 AM
The Hobbit isn't a particularly interesting story. It's a fun book, I liked it, but there isn't much in there that will translate into a good movie. People on GAF are creaming over the prospect of the battle of five armies but come on: it'll be nothing more than a giant WETA battle. It'll be pretty, will look epic in terms of size, but still won't be anything truly amazing.

It's still a middle aged hobbit, an old wizard (who'll look even older consider Sir Ian isn't growing younger), and 12 dwarves. I guess Del Toro will make a few of them memorable (the angry one, the comic relief one, maybe one for gay subtext, etc) but there's no way that will be as interesting as the variety of the fellowship in LOTR
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2009, 03:50:53 AM
13 dwarves.  I just watched the cartoon again.   
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2009, 03:54:53 AM
15 birds,
in five fur trees.
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 19, 2009, 03:57:25 AM
What funny little birds,
they had no wings.
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Post by: Diunx on April 19, 2009, 03:59:30 AM
15 are too many fucking birds, fuck this movie.
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Post by: chronovore on April 21, 2009, 05:26:23 AM
What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?
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Post by: Cheebs on April 21, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?

$$$$$
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Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
if publishing has shown us anything, it's that lotr nerds will buy and read damn near anything he wrote

i expect tolkein's grocery lists to be published any day now with a forward from peter jackson stating that this truly is a great day for fans
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Post by: ManaByte on April 21, 2009, 01:46:27 PM
What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?

There's 60 years between Hobbit and LOTR and Tolkien chronicled most of it. There's no Aragorn in The Hobbit, but there's a bunch of Aragorn and Gandalf stuff between Hobbit and LOTR, and that's what the bridge movie was going to cover.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
The Lord of the Rings: The Bridge to Nowhere
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 21, 2009, 02:06:58 PM
The Lord of the Rings: The Bridge to Nowhere

You're just mad that the lotr movies were better than Spider hyphen Man.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2009, 02:29:09 PM
Nah, only Fellowship was.  Spider-Man 3 > Return of the King
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2009, 02:38:45 PM
 :lol
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Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 02:51:54 PM
RoTK was pretty lame.

it was like watchmen
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2009, 02:52:25 PM
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this....

leper Eric P  :'(
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 21, 2009, 02:58:57 PM
I think we should Double Icon Eric P and Double Leper you!
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Post by: Solo on April 21, 2009, 03:03:26 PM
FotR is the only great movie.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 21, 2009, 03:07:14 PM
Aside from Sam and Frodo, and the final like 30 minutes or so of ROTK, i think the LOTR trilogy is really amazing, i love it.
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Post by: Robo on April 21, 2009, 03:08:07 PM
I fell asleep in the theater during FotR's opening night show.
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Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 03:09:20 PM
FotR is the only great movie.

yeah i totally agree with this statement.

there is something just nearly perfect in this film that is lacking in the bloat of the others.

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Post by: bud on April 21, 2009, 03:11:39 PM
i liked all three, but rotk dragged on for too long; they could've cut it a good 15 minutes shorter
and it was pretty lame that all it took for that nazgul creature to be destroyed was a tiny woman with a sword
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 21, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
i liked all three, but rotk dragged on for too long; they could've cut it a good 15 minutes shorter
and it was pretty lame that all it took for that nazgul creature to be destroyed was a tiny woman with a sword

That's in the book though and he was destroyed by the hobbits weapon which they had gotten in a part of the book that was cut from the movie.

ROTK had some problems but I still love it because I love conclusions to trilogies.    TTT > FOTR BTW, easily. 
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Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 03:15:17 PM
i liked all three, but rotk dragged on for too long; they could've cut it a good 15 minutes shorter
and it was pretty lame that all it took for that nazgul creature to be destroyed was a tiny woman with a sword

seriously.  that was totally Bobba Fett.

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
FOTR is the best edited/most concise of the three, definitely. But I still think TTT and ROTK are great as well. IMO the storylines in those movies aren't nearly as compelling as in FOTR, where you're mainly just following the fellowship. In the second film you have to deal with Frodo/Sam wandering around, Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli hunting for hobbits and the annoying Merry/Pippin story; plus the movie has the most annoying scene imo, ie the part where Aragorn "dies."  ::)

ROTK is more focused imo, at least until the very end; the multiple endings don't piss me off but they definitely could have been handled better.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on April 21, 2009, 03:17:58 PM
The last thing I would call ROTK is focused. It's a series of disjointed scenes that have no flow.

Focused was FOTR. It was about collecting a band of people and going on a mission. That's why it was the best movie.
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Post by: Solo on April 21, 2009, 03:59:13 PM
FotR is the only great movie.

yeah i totally agree with this statement.

there is something just nearly perfect in this film that is lacking in the bloat of the others.



I preferred the book to the other 2 books, also. Basically, I think the first part of the saga where you're following the Fellowship on a smaller scale as they come together and set out is so much more engaging and satisfying (both in the books and in the movies) than either of the other 2 books/movies where the conflict opens up and becomes much more global and less intimate. Ive always felt that FotR was an adventure movie in the truest sense, wheareas TTT/RotK are basically war movies.

All the best character stuff is in FotR too. There isnt a single moment as emotional in either TTT or RotK as Gandalf's "death" and Boromir's death in FotR.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 21, 2009, 04:01:52 PM
i liked all three, but rotk dragged on for too long; they could've cut it a good 15 minutes shorter
and it was pretty lame that all it took for that nazgul creature to be destroyed was a tiny woman with a sword

Probably something to do with a man not being able to kill a nazgul. Isn't that part of the mythology?
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Post by: Dickie Dee on April 21, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
RotK did have that scene where Gandalf describes the afterlife to Pippin just as the battle was about to be lost.
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Post by: Solo on April 21, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
Since RotK was already longer than fuck, I never got why they cut the Mouth of Sauron scene in the theatrical cut. I always felt that was a really powerful scene in the book. Its kind of hokey the way Jackson did it though, so maybe thats why they cut it.
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Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 04:43:48 PM
FotR is the only great movie.

yeah i totally agree with this statement.

there is something just nearly perfect in this film that is lacking in the bloat of the others.



I preferred the book to the other 2 books, also. Basically, I think the first part of the saga where you're following the Fellowship on a smaller scale as they come together and set out is so much more engaging and satisfying (both in the books and in the movies) than either of the other 2 books/movies where the conflict opens up and becomes much more global and less intimate. Ive always felt that FotR was an adventure movie in the truest sense, wheareas TTT/RotK are basically war movies.

All the best character stuff is in FotR too. There isnt a single moment as emotional in either TTT or RotK as Gandalf's "death" and Boromir's death in FotR.

i can't comment because i didn't make it more than 50 pages into the first book.
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Post by: Dickie Dee on April 21, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
I always hated how after the battle, these invulnerable ghosts just swoop in. It was so anticlimatic.

It would've been better to have them go away after they took out the swarthies on their boats.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2009, 05:12:52 PM
FotR is the only great movie.

yeah i totally agree with this statement.

there is something just nearly perfect in this film that is lacking in the bloat of the others.



I preferred the book to the other 2 books, also. Basically, I think the first part of the saga where you're following the Fellowship on a smaller scale as they come together and set out is so much more engaging and satisfying (both in the books and in the movies) than either of the other 2 books/movies where the conflict opens up and becomes much more global and less intimate. Ive always felt that FotR was an adventure movie in the truest sense, wheareas TTT/RotK are basically war movies.

All the best character stuff is in FotR too. There isnt a single moment as emotional in either TTT or RotK as Gandalf's "death" and Boromir's death in FotR.

Agreed overall, although I think Gandalf's explanation of the afterlife, Denethor's end, some of the final battle charges/etc were also great emotional moments that equal those in FOTR imo
Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 21, 2009, 05:18:03 PM
I just love fantasy shit in general and massive battles in particular.  The Battle of Pelennor Fields in RotK was fuck awesome, especially the charge of the rohirrim.  I guess fantasy stuff like LOTR tickles my nerd prostate in the way bad Sam Raimi movies do it for Federwang.
Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: border on April 21, 2009, 06:33:11 PM
The battles in the later LotR films were kind of embarassing.  LEGOLAS IS GRINDING DOWN AN ELEPHANT AND THEN HE SHOOTS THREE ARROWS AT THE SAME TIME
Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: Veidt on April 21, 2009, 06:36:55 PM
This lotr shit is racist as hell.

Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 21, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
Also the Hobbit was a more fun book to read then all the three Lotros combined.

That's only because you enjoy easy things. 
Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
This lotr shit is racist as hell.



http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2003/04/22fellowship.html
Title: Re: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening
Post by: Eric P on April 21, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
check out the mcsweeny's lists for more highbrow humor

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