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Title: Anti-depressants: Good idea?
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2009, 05:19:12 PM: I've been having some extreme bouts of depression lately, specifically this passed weekend. It's getting pretty damn annoying. I have always tried to tell myself not to complain about things, especially since there are people that are WAY worse off then me, but it seems I can't help it. :-\

Anyone ever taken these? If so, are they helpful?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 20, 2009, 05:26:37 PM: I would just start smoking a lot of weed, personally.
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Post by: Eric P on April 20, 2009, 05:29:42 PM: and listening to miles davis.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on April 20, 2009, 05:30:02 PM: have you had things to be depressed about? is it interfering in a major way (missed work, etc.)? most of the time it's better to wait it out.
but it's really hard to say when the most I know about you is that you probably like Oblivion.

I have taken them before...they won't make you stop complaining about stuff. if you're mad about your situation in some way, you should figure out why that might be first.
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Post by: tehjaybo on April 20, 2009, 05:39:57 PM: They affect everyone differently. Some people say they make you complete emotional zombies that don't care about anything. Some people say that they are lifesavers. Some people say they have no effect whatsoever.

For the time that I took them, they didn't really change anything that I could tell. The best thing I would be able to say would be to see a doctor about it, have them recommend someone to talk to first. Have a few sessions, then decide with them if anti-depressants would be a good idea. But don't let anyone tell you "OH MY GOD DONT DO IT YOULL NEVER LOVE AGAIN YOUR LIFE WILL BE OVER" because it doesn't always work that way, and as a matter of fact, in the majority of people that I've known on anti-depressants, few have ever done that, even if they think that's what's going on. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 05:40:15 PM: Stop thinking so much about the afterlife.
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Post by: Fragamemnon on April 20, 2009, 05:50:29 PM: I took them when I was a teenager for very good medical reasons reason. Back then they weren't nearly as kind to the body as they are now-seriously, the side effects were horrendous-but it was well worth it to get through that portion of my life.

I'd do it again if I had to. Honestly, if you're at the point where you think you might benefit from them, chances are that you really will benefit from them.
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 20, 2009, 05:50:30 PM: I would recommend weed over antidepressants any day. Every time I have taken them I have gotten the blunt end of the side effects, such as drastic mood swings and massive apathy about everything.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 05:54:14 PM: Quote from: mojovonio on April 20, 2009, 05:42:00 PM
Anti-Depressants are useless. Use St. Johns Wort.

http://www.all-natural.com/hyp-1.html (http://www.all-natural.com/hyp-1.html)

I use St. John's Worth and DMAE as mood elevators. The thing with SJW is that it makes a lot of other medicines you take weaker, most notably, birth control pills.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 05:56:44 PM: I hate the sun. I wish I could live in alaska.
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Post by: tehjaybo on April 20, 2009, 05:57:36 PM: Quote from: Jinfash on April 20, 2009, 05:54:58 PM
How would someone exactly know for sure that he's depressed, and not just looking for something to blame for personal failures?

I need to know how self diagnose myself.

Well, for me it was not doing anything in high school, and when my english teacher asked me why I didn't turn in the paper that would pass or fail me, I said I didn't care about it. Apparently then she decided that it was up to her to call my parents and tell them I was depressed and to send me to a shrink and get me on meds.

Other than that, if you feel really down all the time, you might wanna check into it.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 05:58:15 PM: I'm already at risk of attack of Twilight vampires in WA.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 06:00:10 PM: I think I could hold my own in alaska. I'd go on The World's Deadliest Catch.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 20, 2009, 06:01:27 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 20, 2009, 06:00:10 PM
I think I could hold my own in alaska. I'd go on The World's Deadliest Catch.

Anchorage reminds me of Bellevue (with bears and wolves), you'd be fine.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 06:03:50 PM: It appears to get in the 60s in the summer months in Anchorage. That's too hot.
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Post by: Fragamemnon on April 20, 2009, 06:04:10 PM: Quote from: Jinfash on April 20, 2009, 05:54:58 PM
How would someone exactly know for sure that he's depressed, and not just looking for something to blame for personal failures?

I need to know how self diagnose myself.

Honestly? It's at the point where you admit to yourself that you're helpless to recover from your situation.
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Post by: demi on April 20, 2009, 06:05:27 PM: Get rid of the wii
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Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 06:05:46 PM: Isn't there a time in a year where the sun never goes down or something in Alaska? I saw this in the movie Insomnia.
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Post by: Barry Egan on April 20, 2009, 06:11:30 PM: Quote from: Fragamemnon on April 20, 2009, 05:50:29 PM
I took them when I was a teenager for very good medical reasons reason. Back then they weren't nearly as kind to the body as they are now-seriously, the side effects were horrendous-but it was well worth it to get through that portion of my life.

I'd do it again if I had to. Honestly, if you're at the point where you think you might benefit from them, chances are that you really will benefit from them.

this. pretty much identical to my experience.
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Post by: Fragamemnon on April 20, 2009, 06:20:15 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 20, 2009, 06:00:10 PM
I think I could hold my own in alaska. I'd go on The World's Deadliest Catch.

dude they shoot people like you from planes.

:nsfw (not safe for anything)

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Title: Re: Anti-depressants: Good idea?
Post by: Barry Egan on April 20, 2009, 06:26:10 PM: Jin - I don't think many of the people on this board will know how to get a prescription in your area :lol
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Post by: Veidt on April 20, 2009, 06:32:11 PM: Life could be worse. Watch the news, that always makes me happy about my life.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2009, 06:33:24 PM: Quote from: Kranz Fafka on April 20, 2009, 05:30:02 PM
have you had things to be depressed about? is it interfering in a major way (missed work, etc.)?

I'm not gonna lie, one of the major causes is pretty distinguished mentally-challenged, and probably something no sane person should give two shits about. And that issue is my own mortality, and coming to terms with the possibility that there may not be an afterlife.

A slightly more reasonable gripe is that I've been away from my family for so long (haven't seen them since 04), as well as many of my friends having moved to different parts of the country, etc. I just feel really isolated.

Quote from: Fragamemnon on April 20, 2009, 05:50:29 PM
I took them when I was a teenager for very good medical reasons reason. Back then they weren't nearly as kind to the body as they are now-seriously, the side effects were horrendous-but it was well worth it to get through that portion of my life.

I'd do it again if I had to. Honestly, if you're at the point where you think you might benefit from them, chances are that you really will benefit from them.

Yeah, this shit has been affecting my personal life too. I didn't think it would get to this point, but here we are.
Title: Re: Anti-depressants: Good idea?
Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 06:51:12 PM: I'll just to pray harder and repent
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Post by: Veidt on April 20, 2009, 06:52:47 PM: Nike said it best.

JUST.DO.IT.
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Post by: Barry Egan on April 20, 2009, 07:08:49 PM: Meh. You should try to see a doctor if you can, Jin.
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Post by: TVC15 on April 20, 2009, 07:14:55 PM: When you go to Cambodia, do they let each, individual tourist kill a child and place its skull on a wall? That's the kind of tourist attraction I could buy into.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 07:21:56 PM: Quote from: Kosma on April 20, 2009, 07:11:50 PM
Oblivion, aside from the afterlife issue it seems you could do something about how you feel by simply visiting some friends/family if thats possible.

On the afterlife though, everybody struggles with that sometimes I guess. It's not stupid at all, after all it is one of the fundemental questions to ask oneself. Why are we here? Is there a reason for all this? I'm completely not coherent on this issue myself, 90% of the time I see myself and everything as just cosmic dust, but when Im on a plane, or scared for having HIV or something, I pray to God.

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It's pretty funny that we only pray to God when we are in deep deep shit but make him disappear out of our lives outside of those moments.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 07:33:00 PM: We are all part of a greater plan.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 20, 2009, 07:35:02 PM: We're no cosmic dust. That's atheist mumbo jumbo.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2009, 07:38:17 PM: I've been agnostic for like 6 years. I think what's making this very difficult to accept is that, although I stopped believing in my previous religion, I still believed in a 'God', or some form of higher power. I never thought about the concept of nothingness (or oblivion, if you will lolol) until just recently, and that's just kinda shitty.
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Post by: Fresh Prince on April 20, 2009, 07:43:59 PM: Quote from: Veidt on April 20, 2009, 06:32:11 PM
Life could be worse. Watch the news, that always makes me happy about my life.

Seriously you Europeans and your rationalising, low expectation standards no wonder you fail at everything.

I feel like Kosma, moving to a new city with little control has sort of been invigorating. But you have to be in the correct mind state.
Title: Re: Anti-depressants: Good idea?
Post by: demi on April 20, 2009, 07:44:40 PM: you're depressed because you are going to die? join the fucking club, we are all dying. this is a fucking shitty thread. get depressed over something that matters.
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Post by: Fresh Prince on April 20, 2009, 07:48:34 PM: To simplify your problem greatly isn't the problem with your own mortalility because you believe your not living your life to it's greatest potential, with no lasting legacy etc?
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Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2009, 07:53:09 PM: Quote from: Fresh Prince on April 20, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
To simplify your problem greatly isn't the problem with your own mortalility because you believe your not living your life to it's greatest potential, with no lasting legacy etc?

A friend posed that possibility before, but I don't think that's the case. No matter what awesome thing I 'may' accomplish in life will be essentially meaningless if, after I die, I would have absolutely no way of knowing, if that kinda makes sense.

So it's not the actual dying part (though that's kinda worriesome too).
Title: Re: Anti-depressants: Good idea?
Post by: demi on April 20, 2009, 07:56:27 PM: Arent you like 23. Wait until you are 40 before you worry about what you've accomplished

Its called a midlife crisis for a reason, you might recall Miyamoto having one at GDC
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Post by: Fresh Prince on April 20, 2009, 07:57:19 PM: Maybe lasting legacy is overstating it. Perhaps simply being the best you can be is more simpler and immediate.
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Post by: Barry Egan on April 20, 2009, 08:03:37 PM: yep, it's definitely 4.20.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 20, 2009, 08:03:47 PM: How long before Kosma has his very own self-help book?

Defeating Depression: How I survived AIDS and Seasonal affective disorder
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Post by: Fresh Prince on April 20, 2009, 08:04:11 PM: In any case none of this shit in the thread is going to help you probably do need medication or counselling.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on April 20, 2009, 08:09:07 PM: Quote from: Kosma on April 20, 2009, 08:07:54 PM
Malek I've never conquered winter depression.

Well, conquering AIDS is almost good enough.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 22, 2009, 05:24:53 PM: Okay. So the good news is that I feel quite a bit better since the last few days. Not a 100% better, but I think probably as close as I'm ever going to get, since I don't think I'll ever be forgetting this ordeal. Still better than moping around all day, I s'pose.

Thanks for the help, everyone. :)
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Post by: Oblivion on April 22, 2009, 05:33:22 PM: Yep! Gonna take a week or so off work, which'll be about 2 weeks from now. This weekend, I'm gonna go visit a cousin in San Diego. Should be relaxing, hopefully.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 22, 2009, 05:43:46 PM: Quote from: Oblivion on April 22, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
This weekend, I'm gonna go check out a cousin in San Diego.

Getting with your cousin is only bound to cause further problems, I'd advise against it. :yuck
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Post by: chronovore on April 22, 2009, 11:19:10 PM: Quote from: demi on April 20, 2009, 07:44:40 PM
you're depressed because you are going to die? join the fucking club, we are all dying. this is a fucking shitty thread. get depressed over something that matters.

FLAWLESS VICTORY
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Post by: trippingmartian on April 23, 2009, 01:52:17 AM: I hear literature is helpful. "The Road Less Travelled". Shit like that.

Actually I've been meaning to read it myself. :-[
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Post by: clothedmacuser on April 23, 2009, 04:01:42 AM: Quote from: demi on April 20, 2009, 07:44:40 PM
you're depressed because you are going to die? join the fucking club, we are all dying. this is a fucking shitty thread. get depressed over something that matters.

I agree.

Stop being depressed, loser!