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Title: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 06, 2009, 09:20:28 PM
:( :( :(

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Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: pilonv1 on May 06, 2009, 09:26:53 PM
how do you die when you haven't done anything in years? :smug
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: bork on May 06, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 06, 2009, 09:29:17 PM
What?

They can't do this, not before they release DNF!!!!! OMG, somebody get Ja Rule on the phone, so i can make sense of all this shit. Where are you jaaa
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 06, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
I grew up playing Apogee shareware games.  3DRealms and Duke will always have a warm place in my heart :(
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: bork on May 06, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
I grew up playing Apogee shareware games.  3DRealms and Duke will always have a warm place in my heart :(

Old Duke was great; it's just hilarious this happened after all the Duke Nukem Forever delays is all.  Seems like a fitting end for this vaporware of a title.  Maybe now the rights will revert to a company that will actually release the game.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: pilonv1 on May 06, 2009, 09:34:44 PM
I grew up playing Apogee shareware games.  3DRealms and Duke will always have a warm place in my heart :(

so did i but that's not the 3DRealms of today.

commander keen :usacry
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: drew on May 06, 2009, 09:41:35 PM
wait, so now duke nukem forever will never be released?

never ever?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Third on May 06, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
PC gaming?

I bet the game would've been released for PS360 first.

And good. DNF can finally die. I'm sick of all the release rumors.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 06, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 06, 2009, 10:13:56 PM
worst day of my life :(

the great 3drealms joke was not supposed to have such a lame punchline :'(

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Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Crushed on May 06, 2009, 10:17:39 PM
what the hell is that gif from :rofl
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Jansen on May 06, 2009, 10:20:37 PM
super robot taisen og saga
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 06, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
That .gif makes me lol everytime

I admit that it is kind of a lame ending.  3D Realms should just release whatever they had of DNF (lol) and let the community decide from there.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on May 06, 2009, 10:31:41 PM
I guess 3D Realms is out of gum.  :(
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 06, 2009, 10:32:44 PM
nooooo

quick someone update the "things accomplished during DNF's development" list ... for the last time ever :sniff

can we find a celebrity who lived their entire full and productive life in the public sphere
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Positive Touch on May 06, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
their work on the game will most likely be picked up by someone else, right?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2009, 10:41:10 PM
:rofl @ that kosmos gif
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: originalz on May 06, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
http://duke.a-13.net/
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on May 06, 2009, 11:28:46 PM
WHAT?????

FUCK.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 06, 2009, 11:36:32 PM
I bet someone else will pick up the IP and knoci it out in under a year
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: pilonv1 on May 06, 2009, 11:39:30 PM
Did Not Finish :hurr
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 07, 2009, 12:18:08 AM


can we find a celebrity who lived their entire full and productive life in the public sphere

Lindsay Lohan?


Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 07, 2009, 12:20:04 AM
She did have Parenttrap/Mean Girls for however little that's worth.

I'd go with Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2009, 12:20:43 AM
I don't get it.  Isn't the Duke franchise still worth $$$?  Like if they were closing up, wouldn't they sell the IP to some other company who in turn would finish DNF and release it to make some quick and easy cash?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
Wait, so Prey 2 and Earth No More will never be released?

Both of those were transferred to Radar Group, with development of Earth No More being done by Recoil Games.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: maxy on May 07, 2009, 03:29:18 AM
Nooooo!
 :'(
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: dark1x on May 07, 2009, 08:46:59 AM
Seriously?  I never imagined that it would end like this.  :(  Hopefully we get SOMETHING out of this.  Either the complete story, an early build, or or...anything.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 07, 2009, 09:43:17 AM
Well actually, i believe we have a bigger chance of getting a new Duke Nukem game than ever before. 3D Realms shuts down, their IPs will end up going to somebody, and that somebody will make a game based on them.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: tiesto on May 07, 2009, 09:48:15 AM
Wow, what a lame-ass ending to the whole Duke Nukem Forever development saga.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Either the complete story, an early build, or or...anything.

I'm holding out for a ten-disc making-of documentary.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Tauntaun on May 07, 2009, 12:34:29 PM
Give DNF to Valve.  DO IT!  :hyper
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2009, 03:18:33 PM
Give DNF to Valve.  DO IT!  :hyper

No way, unless Turtle Rock Studios is going to work on it.

Poppin' pills.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Yeti on May 07, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
I thought DNF would be in development forever. It's like waking up to find out the sky is no longer blue.  :(
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 07, 2009, 04:11:33 PM
What I don't get about the DNF thing is that it wasn't that ambitious a project.  I can see how you could keep scrapping everything and starting over if you've got some grandiose vision in your head and so everything has to match it perfectly, but this game is just a dumb shooter.  Even if everything were executed perfectly, it would still be just a dumb shooter, so who cares if it's flawed?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Kestastrophe on May 07, 2009, 04:19:53 PM
http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/ (http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/)
wtf? There's no way this is real.....right?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
What I don't get about the DNF thing is that it wasn't that ambitious a project.  I can see how you could keep scrapping everything and starting over if you've got some grandiose vision in your head and so everything has to match it perfectly, but this game is just a dumb shooter.  Even if everything were executed perfectly, it would still be just a dumb shooter, so who cares if it's flawed?

They should have just released the awesome 2001 build.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: dark1x on May 07, 2009, 04:38:34 PM
http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/ (http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/)
wtf? There's no way this is real.....right?
That seems too ridiculous to be real...but it would be cool if it were.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 07, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
What I don't get about the DNF thing is that it wasn't that ambitious a project.  I can see how you could keep scrapping everything and starting over if you've got some grandiose vision in your head and so everything has to match it perfectly, but this game is just a dumb shooter.  Even if everything were executed perfectly, it would still be just a dumb shooter, so who cares if it's flawed?

George Broussard hyped it up by saying things like it would be the most interactive game of all time, whatever that means.

From wiki

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The game was touted for its "unprecedented interactivity", aiming to "push the limits of gaming and establish new standards in interactivity, variety, and pure fun."

What I don't get about the DNF thing is that it wasn't that ambitious a project.  I can see how you could keep scrapping everything and starting over if you've got some grandiose vision in your head and so everything has to match it perfectly, but this game is just a dumb shooter.  Even if everything were executed perfectly, it would still be just a dumb shooter, so who cares if it's flawed?

They should have just released the awesome 2001 build.

The gossip from that one dev was that everything (er, at least the gameplay) in the 2001 build was created only for that demo video.  It was phony.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2009, 06:13:11 PM
What I don't get about the DNF thing is that it wasn't that ambitious a project.  I can see how you could keep scrapping everything and starting over if you've got some grandiose vision in your head and so everything has to match it perfectly, but this game is just a dumb shooter.  Even if everything were executed perfectly, it would still be just a dumb shooter, so who cares if it's flawed?

They should have just released the awesome 2001 build.

The gossip from that one dev was that everything (er, at least the gameplay) in the 2001 build was created only for that demo video.  It was phony.

At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if that's true, even though the whole story was incredibly bizarre.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: border on May 07, 2009, 06:54:52 PM
I can't wait to hear the story behind this.

Is Georgre Broussand just some insane perfectionist/terrible manager?  After all this time, I get the sense that he'd rather see this project killed than have it come out and be anything less than perfect.  I would love to see all the levels and artwork and story stuff that they did, but I also imagine they will just bury it and not want to put their shame on display.

If you believed a story where CliffyB tackled some dude and threatened to stab his eye out with a broken leg chair, I would say you are an utterly gullible  distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.  But then I believed this game would eventually come out, so I guess I'm the bigger distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

can we find a celebrity who lived their entire full and productive life in the public sphere

Heath Ledger seems like the obvious choice. 
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: originalz on May 07, 2009, 08:32:27 PM
http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/ (http://gamingisstupid.com/2009/05/06/the-chair-story-revival/)
wtf? There's no way this is real.....right?

This was originally posted on Something Awful...there's some stuff missing though.  In the original post, the story ended with something like "...and then I woke up".
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 09, 2009, 11:55:10 AM
Did Not Finish  :'(
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Crushed on May 09, 2009, 09:55:13 PM
[youtube=560,345]bDGTopCzbPM[/youtube]

killzone 2, every single console fps annihilated by a defunct company's vaporware
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Purple Filth on May 09, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
[youtube=560,345]bDGTopCzbPM[/youtube]

killzone 2, every single console fps annihilated by a defunct company's vaporware

After 13 years i guess they had to do something

Anyways the finger was awesome  :lol
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: originalz on May 10, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
Hmm, looks like it had potential, although the environments look kind of generic.  What made Duke3D great were all the interactive environments and fun things you could do, levels that weren't generic warehouses and caves.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: demi on May 10, 2009, 01:10:27 AM
video got taken down
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2009, 05:06:48 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/316675.html?playlist=featured

looks awesome
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Purple Filth on May 10, 2009, 07:19:42 AM
While the use of Twitter accounts to give some cryptic and/or hype information is flawed i will still post this

http://twitter.com/ApogeeSoftware/status/1747381530

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New press release from Apogee Software regarding Duke Nukem coming next week.


i wonder

Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 10, 2009, 07:22:13 AM
While the use of Twitter accounts to give some cryptic and/or hype information is flawed i will still post this

http://twitter.com/ApogeeSoftware/status/1747381530

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New press release from Apogee Software regarding Duke Nukem coming next week.


i wonder



Apogee is developing Duke Nukem Trilogy for the handhelds (and maybe XBLA?  I forget).  It has nothing to do with DNF.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Diunx on May 10, 2009, 08:29:21 AM
Duke Nukem 3d is still the best fps ever made, halo, killzone and half life fangirls can eat shit and die.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on May 10, 2009, 09:14:12 AM
Whoever gif-ified this at GAF is my new hero.  :-*

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2iw0j92.jpg)

:rofl
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on May 10, 2009, 11:24:04 AM
You're not the only one, I would have bought it.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Hollywood on May 10, 2009, 05:25:42 PM
That game looked badass. Strippers, vulgar one liners, flipping the bird, crazy violence. Sure as fuck beats the 4,000 generic space marine games out there nowadays. A game like this I could have liked, and I rarely play FPS's.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: brawndolicious on May 10, 2009, 06:31:35 PM
It actually makes fun of itself, which no game does that much anymore.  Even duke's model has the proportions of a action figure I guess.

It looks like the game was basically done but maybe 3DRealms couldn't get a publisher for it because maybe they weren't willing to give up the distribution rights or something.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2009, 06:55:26 PM
It looks like the game was basically done but maybe 3DRealms couldn't get a publisher for it because maybe they weren't willing to give up the distribution rights or something.

Take Two has had the distribution rights for years now.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 10, 2009, 07:14:59 PM
It actually makes fun of itself, which no game does that much anymore.  Even duke's model has the proportions of a action figure I guess.

It looks like the game was basically done but maybe 3DRealms couldn't get a publisher for it because maybe they weren't willing to give up the distribution rights or something.

If it were almost done, there wouldn't be so many non-texture mapped modeling demos.  If anything, the video confirms that it wasn't almost done.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: brawndolicious on May 10, 2009, 07:25:26 PM
looked done to me, artistic vision, yadda yadda.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on May 10, 2009, 10:00:52 PM
It looks like the game was basically done but maybe 3DRealms couldn't get a publisher for it because maybe they weren't willing to give up the distribution rights or something.

Take Two has had the distribution rights for years now.
Someone at Kotaku said that 3D Realms asked for another $5 million from Take Two to finish it, but Take Two said no and offered $30 million to take it and finish it themselves. So George shut down 3D Realms instead... :wtf
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2009, 10:08:10 PM
It looks like the game was basically done but maybe 3DRealms couldn't get a publisher for it because maybe they weren't willing to give up the distribution rights or something.

Take Two has had the distribution rights for years now.
Someone at Kotaku said that 3D Realms asked for another $5 million from Take Two to finish it, but Take Two said no and offered $30 million to take it and finish it themselves. So George shut down 3D Realms instead... :wtf

That's pretty much what I'd do if I were in Take Two's position.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: chronovore on May 11, 2009, 07:52:56 AM
I also caught the fated, ironic similarity between DNF and Did Not Finish. Ouch; like naming a ship "Enterprise" -- things are bound to get strange.

Isn't the name for this in movie making called "production hell"? The number of movies which were in production hell but came out and were pretty good, you can count on your hands. The ones which were actually really good can be counted on one hand.

In all likelihood, the kind of guy who comes up with Duke Nukem is not the kind of reserved, conservative, pillar of artistic integrity who would walk away from $30M just to let his pet project die. It's more likely that the terms of the contract were not able to be fulfilled due to some other reason, such as toy, movie, or comic rights being untransferable, etc.

Anyway, who knows if this is the final, final death? Fallout was supposedly dead when the original dev went down, and look how that's turned out.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: chronovore on May 11, 2009, 10:12:46 AM
The next one will probably be called Duke Nukem: Forever and a Day -- and ship on time.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: maxy on May 11, 2009, 01:53:11 PM
28 Screens and entire plot leaked,

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46948/Duke-Nukem-Forever-28-Hi-Res-Screenshots-Entire-Plot-Leaked

Titty City  :lol


Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 12, 2009, 01:22:40 AM
I'm still kinda half expecting Rebellion to somehow eventually sweep in and make a playable something out of 3D Realms' mess.  They attract troubled projects like flies to shit.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Bebpo on May 12, 2009, 01:45:14 AM
The plot leak is awesome.  Game really should have came out.

So uh, why did 3DRealms close in the first place when the project was 6 months from completion?  They somehow had the funds to keep paying people for the last 10 years...seems odd they would run out just as they were actually about to finish something.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 12, 2009, 02:24:54 AM

So uh, why did 3DRealms close in the first place when the project was 6 months from completion?  They somehow had the funds to keep paying people for the last 10 years...seems odd they would run out just as they were actually about to finish something.

From what I could gather(by reading GAF, lol), they asked Take Two for five million to finish the game. Take Two offered them 30 million for the Duke ip and to finish the game. I guess this meant that if 3Drealms decided to shelve the game, take two could just give it to someone else and finally get a finished project. 3DRealms weren't having it so they decided to just close up shop.




I wonder what the full story is.  As it is, that doesn't make any sense.  It sounds like a dramatic neogaffian version, where the devs were too proud and passionate to sell off their IP, even when in a desperate position. 
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Hollywood on May 12, 2009, 02:54:21 AM
I'm still kinda half expecting Rebellion to somehow eventually sweep in and make a playable something out of 3D Realms' mess.  They attract troubled projects like flies to shit.

No, fuck them. They apparently screwed over Free Radical for the rights to do Battlefront 3, using Free Radical assets. I'd rather never see another Duke title again.

So uh, why did 3DRealms close in the first place when the project was 6 months from completion?  They somehow had the funds to keep paying people for the last 10 years...seems odd they would run out just as they were actually about to finish something.

From what I could gather(by reading GAF, lol), they asked Take Two for five million to finish the game. Take Two offered them 30 million for the Duke ip and to finish the game. I guess this meant that if 3Drealms decided to shelve the game, take two could just give it to someone else and finally get a finished project. 3DRealms weren't having it so they decided to just close up shop.



So, 3DRealms decided to make zero money and try to auction off their assets which would likely go for a much lower price than sell it to Take Two? That pretty much makes zero sense. The game is probably going to come out somewhere by someone. 3DRealms isn't just going to sit on it. EA should buy the rights to it and buy the publishing rights from Take Two and finish the game. They buy everything else.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2009, 04:37:03 AM
I'd buy it on account of it being a less than bloody serious shooter. There's a critical shortage of such games.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: chronovore on May 12, 2009, 09:57:56 AM
I'd buy it on account of it being a less than bloody serious shooter. There's a critical shortage of such games.

Did you get in on that D3 Publisher one, The Return of Matt Hazard?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: dark1x on May 12, 2009, 10:03:45 AM
I'd buy it on account of it being a less than bloody serious shooter. There's a critical shortage of such games.

Did you get in on that D3 Publisher one, The Return of Matt Hazard?
I was actually excited about that one, but from what I've read, the final results are pretty terrible.  The gameplay sounds absolutely awful to the point that it would be difficult to enjoy any of the humor.  It's a damn shame too.

Honestly, 50 Cent Blood on the Sand is probably one of the only decent games of this type out there right now.  :P
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2009, 12:21:45 PM
Yeah, Matt Hazard unfortunately tries to be a bit too much of a real game.  Also, the targeting is inaccurate, which kinda kills it.

I like the Simpsons Game quite a bit.  It's actually pretty funny.  The mechanics are pretty simple, but even when the bad camera murders you, you aren't sent 5 minutes backwards to the last checkpoint.  You restart immediately where you died.  It really makes it so that the game is playable solely for the humor.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 12, 2009, 07:12:22 PM
28 Screens and entire plot leaked,

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46948/Duke-Nukem-Forever-28-Hi-Res-Screenshots-Entire-Plot-Leaked

Titty City  :lol




So awesome. This is the kind of game that didn't even have to be completely perfect to be enjoyable and a must play. Oh well, I imagine someone's gonna do something with it or the IP in some form.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Positive Touch on May 15, 2009, 07:23:54 AM
why sue someone with no money?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: SantaC on May 15, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
TT sues 3DRealms over the delay:

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Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. filed a breach of contract suit against Apogee Software Ltd. this week in a Manhattan Court over the developer's "continually delayed" Duke Nukem sequel. Details of the suit were not disclosed in a report by Bloomberg, nor has the New York County Civil Court provided specifics about the damages Take-Two is seeking.

(For the record, the legal name of 3D Realms is Apogee Software Ltd., the party being sued. It is a separate entity from Apogee Software LLC, developers of the still alive Duke Nukem Trilogy.)

According to the complaint, "Apogee repeatedly assured Take-Two and the video-gaming community that it was diligently working toward competing development of the PC Version of the Duke Nukem Forever."

Broussard or whatever his name is, must be devastated. Duke was his baby.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 15, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
why sue someone with no money?

Even if they don't have any money, they still have potentially profitable assets [i.e. Duke Nukem intellectual properties and DNF code].
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 15, 2009, 11:05:59 AM
There is probably a great book out of this trainwreck. :lol
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: dark1x on May 15, 2009, 01:21:14 PM
I'd actually be very interested in a book on this whole thing.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 15, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
Get that dude that wrote Game Over to do it.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: chronovore on May 16, 2009, 01:38:31 AM
There is probably a great book out of this trainwreck. :lol

And the book wouldn't take 12 years to finish. Or DNF, as the case may be.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Gazunta on May 16, 2009, 04:15:34 AM
In theory, maybe someone already got commissioned to do the the book.

In theory, that person already started work on it.

In theory, the author and publisher got told to stop work on it.

In theory, the book was canceled.

In theory.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: SantaC on May 16, 2009, 06:51:58 AM
There is probably a great book out of this trainwreck. :lol

When it's done
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 16, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
In theory, maybe someone already got commissioned to do the the book.

In theory, that person already started work on it.

In theory, the author and publisher got told to stop work on it.

In theory, the book was canceled.

In theory.

In theory, who could tell a publisher to stop work on a book? :lol
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 16, 2009, 11:37:37 AM
This shit just got real!
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: demi on May 16, 2009, 11:40:01 AM
meh. dyack's episode was more entertaining than this. at least too human came out.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 16, 2009, 04:14:54 PM
Leak them, leak theam, leak them!  :hyper
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Purple Filth on May 16, 2009, 05:28:56 PM
haven't the assets already been leaked though

hmm
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 16, 2009, 10:25:07 PM
What engine was this running under again?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 16, 2009, 11:32:32 PM
What engine was this running under again?

Heavily modified Unreal 2.

They should have stuck with the Build Engine. It had Voxels. :bow2
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: brawndolicious on June 12, 2009, 03:38:13 AM
That doesn't show shit.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ManaByte on June 18, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
Jace Hall has no business harping on other companies failures. Matrix Online anyone?
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: ManaByte on June 18, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
Jace Hall has no business harping on other companies failures. Matrix Online anyone?

Shut up, nobody cares about MMOs. Those things always fail.

Ok. How about Warner Brothers Interactive? That was a massive failure that he oversaw. Hell, he made some promise that if any licensed game they make doesn't score high on Metacritic, they'd fine the developer. He ignored that rule when the Monolith games flopped.
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: demi on June 18, 2009, 11:20:33 PM
Nobody cares about this game or Jace Hall. Go sell your console again
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: originalz on June 20, 2009, 07:44:35 AM
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/C_PDF?CatID=495993&CID=601457-2009&FName=0

You can now read the entire complaint filed by Take2!

Some interesting info buried in there...
Title: Re: 3DRealms/DNF dead - Today is truly the day PC gaming died
Post by: border on June 20, 2009, 01:25:05 PM
The complaint is pretty interesting.

Everyone assumed that 3DR was able to fuck around for so long because they had all this magical money from the first Duke games and Max Payne and Prey and stuff.  It turns out they ran out of cash in 2007, and had to get a 2.5 million dollar advance from Take2.  The advance wasn't actually delivered until July 2008....so they either blew through all that money in 9 months, or they just decided to take the money and run.

Take2 is demanding all artwork and source code from the project.....so maybe they will try to salvage it.  The lawsuit could probably take years though, so I am not expecting anything.

Take2 claims that 3DR/Apogee has a ton of money squirreled away in an "offshore account" that it can use to pay off its obligations.  Not sure how common that is for developers.