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Title: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 21, 2009, 09:54:58 PM
This was one of my most anticipated games, so WHAT THE FUCK? Are those really Max Payne 2 level character models? What's up with the shitty ass glasses? Is this a matrix game? what

And the .45? Really? I fucking hate that gun. I hope that GTTV footage has something special, because this is one big pile of shit.

http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_avances.php?pic=PS3&id=cw4a12ab85121a5&idj=cw445f562339eda&idp=&tipo=art&c=1&pos=0


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Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MCD on May 21, 2009, 09:57:54 PM
This was one of my most anticipated games, so WHAT THE FUCK? Are those really Max Payne 2 level character models? What's up with the shitty ass glasses? Is this a matrix game? what

yes, it's Indigo Prophecy 2.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: pilonv1 on May 21, 2009, 10:18:19 PM
looks pretty generic
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 21, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh something happened here
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Crushed on May 21, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
Yeah, those shots look pretty... average. I'm kinda stunned that some people think those shots are somehow the best looking console graphics ever, or that "THE SKIN TEXTURE IS THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN."
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: dark1x on May 21, 2009, 10:55:44 PM
Yeah, those shots look pretty... average. I'm kinda stunned that some people think those shots are somehow the best looking console graphics ever, or that "THE SKIN TEXTURE IS THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN."
Who the hell said that about THOSE shots?

It doesn't look too hot, technically, but I still think what is present in those shots could be interesting.

It's almost a shame this is going to be PS3 exclusive simply because it will bring lots of hate along with it.  :(  Even if it is a step down from what they were showing before, I still think it could be a really incredible experience just based on the work they've done in the past (both Omikron and Fahrenheit).
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 21, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
It's almost a shame this is going to be PS3 exclusive simply because it will bring lots of hate along with it.  :( 

What the fuck is this shit? Gaf?

That screams sdf "world against us" kind of shit. One of the problems with these images, are the horrible textures and lightning.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 21, 2009, 11:05:16 PM
Why does he have ONE glove on in the last screen?

Apparently the glove and glasses are some high tech CSI on the fly shit. I know, super cheesy.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: cool breeze on May 21, 2009, 11:18:47 PM
The game sounds pretty awesome for what it is, but yeah, those screens don't look that great.  It reminds me of Max Payne 2 meets Frame City Killer with nice skin textures.  Though, if it does have nice animation, especially facial animation, then I would think differently about it.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Draft on May 21, 2009, 11:28:40 PM
Why does he have ONE glove on in the last screen?

Apparently the glove and glasses are some high tech CSI on the fly shit. I know, super cheesy.
I promise, no magic of supernatural elements.

Did I mention Grissom Glove?
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 21, 2009, 11:42:48 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/de045i.png)

Can't believe this game is getting so hyped
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 21, 2009, 11:49:12 PM
The game looks like Siren.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: duckman2000 on May 21, 2009, 11:59:16 PM
Are those really Max Payne 2 level character models?

Evidently not.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: cool breeze on May 22, 2009, 12:15:28 AM
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/de045i.png[/

Can't believe this game is getting so hyped

I wasn't excited until I read that the "game" has so many ways it can resolve itself.  If you die in one story line, that will affect and change another.  If you fuck up and die, you're dead and the story will continue with that character dead.  If the next time you play you survived, then the story will be different than the previous game where you died.  I will support any game that makes the player undergo the consequences of his/her actions.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: demi on May 22, 2009, 12:17:28 AM
Um Indigo Prophecy was one of the best games I've played. I would buy a PS3 for this game.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: pilonv1 on May 22, 2009, 12:28:04 AM
it's also full of QTE's
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: drew on May 22, 2009, 12:39:55 AM
Um Indigo Prophecy was one of the best games I've played. I would buy a PS3 for this game.

cosigned
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bildi on May 22, 2009, 12:43:01 AM
Needs more tears.

If they really learned their lessons from Fahrenheit this could be awesome.  I think it's pretty dangerous to hype it as guaranteed awesome though.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bebpo on May 22, 2009, 01:34:58 AM
Um Indigo Prophecy was one of the best games I've played. I would buy a PS3 for this game.

cosigned

If people aren't being sarcastic, between you two and dark1x supporting Inidog/Farenheit I think I may have to leave this forum to get away from the CRAZY SUCKAS who thought flying in the air doing matrix fights with QTEs = good game.

Indigo started out good and devolved into one of the worst games I've ever played.  I'm not touching Heavy Rain with a 10 foot pole even if it had graphics you thought you were watching a snuff film.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: demi on May 22, 2009, 01:47:07 AM
um... what is so wrong with that? you have played much worse in one of your little anime games i'm sure. but if an american does something off the wall it is omg awful. get real.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: duckman2000 on May 22, 2009, 02:33:53 AM
it's also full of QTE's

Yeah, unfortunately that's how combat is going to be handled. It's a good thing though that combat isn't the main focus of the game, from what I can tell it's the investigation and path-choosing aspects.

Is it purely QTE, or a mix? I don't think I'll mind it much if it's a pure QTE affair, it's the mixed shit that tends to get on my nerves.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: cool breeze on May 22, 2009, 02:49:20 AM
I saw the video that was on tv just now.  I thought it would be mostly QTE, but it had the guy walking around an area investigating things.  It looks like you control him.  The actual fighting they showed was basically God of War analog movements or button presses.  The neat part about context sensitive actions is that the button icon is relative to the thing you interact with.  Like, what button is the car door is over the car door at the time and things like that.  It's more integrated with the world and not just a button on the screen.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Tieno on May 22, 2009, 05:07:12 AM
GAMEPLAY : http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/24771
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: maxy on May 22, 2009, 05:44:31 AM
More like Heavy lol downgrade...
Faces look good,but everything else is lol

Story will either make or brake this game
Good interesting story=good game
Bad story=total fail

But at the end its probably going to end up like this:

Someone:"Game sucks,i don't like it"

Hardcore niche:"Stfu...you are to stupid to understand it,its art dude"
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 22, 2009, 07:39:23 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=60&ch=1&sd=0

Looks better in motion, but nothing too great. Voice acting is absolute shit in the scene between the detective and the black dude.

I do like the Mahone from Prison Break rip off that the character is though, with the drug addiction thing. That's cool.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 22, 2009, 08:54:02 AM
screens are bad but the video looks great. looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Mondain on May 22, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
*yawn*, more preposterous PS3 nitpicking and trolling on Evilbore, who'da thunk  ::)

can't wait to play this

fuck I just watched the videos on Gametrailers and it's even more awesome than I thought, I originally just wanted to rent but now I'm definitely buying this!!!
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 08:45:18 PM
The investigation part of the trailer was cool and sorta promising if they include more of it, though I have to say the whole glasses thing is really silly in this ULTRA REALISTIC game.

Edit:

Just finished watching the entire segment. So they confirmed that the last trailer wasn't going to be in the game, what the fuck?!

This doesn't make any sense, since it looked really complete and fleshed out. Do they have that much free time on their hands? This is kinda worrying because this footage was subpar compared to that one. This is the second time they release something that does not demonstrate the actual game and story. Weird.

I think they meant the crying girl
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 08:58:54 PM
Oh, mega fail.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: T234 on May 22, 2009, 09:02:31 PM
Definitely doesn't look as good as that first screen/trailer everybody likes to parrot.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bebpo on May 22, 2009, 09:18:57 PM
from the makers of indigo prophecy

Somebody gets it.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 09:30:24 PM
You do until you get to the worst twist in video game history.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 09:33:17 PM
Yeah but c'mon, that twist. Wtf where they thinking.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 22, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
I liked Farenheit. Sure, the stealth missions were horrible, but everything else aside from the supernatural shit was awesome in my book, until it jumped the shark and at that point you either were crazy enough to ride it or not.

I rode that shark all mighty.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bebpo on May 22, 2009, 09:51:42 PM
I dunno, the QTE OMG SPIDERS IN THE OFFICE bit was pretty iffy.  The stealth bit sucked.  The sex scene has hahaha and then the post-shark jumping was all  :-\
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 09:53:36 PM
It's too horrible to spoil the game. Let's just say, you can see the matrix.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 09:53:49 PM
Oh and Zombie sex
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 09:54:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAikTwYmB6U


I miss my ability to edit posts
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 22, 2009, 10:01:52 PM
Ok, I think I won't play Indigo. Start spoiling the story and twists of that bitch please.

Main dude kills this other dude in the bathroom of a restaurant. You have to escape as soon as you gain control.

Cops arrive. You investigate your own stuff.

You play guitar to your ex girlfriend, then you fuck her.

Black cop dude tells his gf to go take a hike with her complaining.

Suddenly main dude starts gaining super strenght and speed. Cops chase him, he owns them.

He searches for an explanation to his new found abilities and shit. Remembers shit from when he was a kid, parents were scientists. Utter shit stealth mission.

Apparently in a dimension beyond our own, a group of dickheads want something, and their weapon, this priest like voodoo dude is trying to create a door to tEh Oddaaa siiiideee, and the he possesses dudes to kill other dudes in order to open the door.

Lil girl becomes central to the plot. Don't remember why. Main dude dies, becomes walking dead, cold as ice. Saves the little girl, becomes Neo and starts wire fuing with the voodoo priest.

Flees with the girl and the female detective. Female detective fucks him, dead and cold, for no other reason than she's a slut.

This portal stone whatever opens in this factory where his parents used to work, and you have to press buttons really fast.

If you don't press buttons fast enough the world is invaded by electrical machines. If you are fast enough, then you impregnate that ho of a detective.







Oh that's right, it snows a lot during the game.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 22, 2009, 10:14:07 PM
Considering the shit writing shown in the video, the total lack of judgment from Cage to hire appropriate voice actors, and the inclusion of that cheesy and lame "CSi lab in a glove and glasses to match" shit.......

I kinda wish they do have supernatural stuff in there, if you wanna go distinguished mentally-challenged fellow might as well go full mode.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
What was up with the random sex questions. Plus I must say, that was probably the first time I almost maybe popped a woody to a video game character in panties.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 22, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
It was amateur hour when he started asking that.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
Geoff Keighly's random questions about sex and "taking someone from the club home" was really creepy and the last things I wanted to know about this game.

Another reason why game journalism is embarrasing. geoff and Robert Ashley are the worst.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 10:37:18 PM
If you sent a letter in now a days like that asking for real advice, they wouldn't even give you the time of day.

Fucking nerds only out for themselves.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: demi on May 22, 2009, 10:38:28 PM
This game will be trash if it doesnt have any bit of supernatural stuff. There is already a CSI game on Xbox if you want that. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
You can't go to the club and pick up a guy and take him home and have sex with them in CSI though.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: demi on May 22, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
You havent even played Indigo. s t f u
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: demi on May 22, 2009, 10:58:18 PM
Um, yes?
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 22, 2009, 11:08:00 PM
That's like me saying Halo sucks and i've only played 2 minutes of the first one on Xbox.

:teehee
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Mondain on May 23, 2009, 03:39:27 AM
the supernatural stuff didn't even bother me all that much in Indigo Prophecy even if at times it looked taken straight out of the Matrix sequels, I liked the scenes with that Mayan sorcerer and even the flashback scenes with stealth, and all the scenes with the big snowstorms, what I disliked however was how thin the epilogue was, and that awful Theory of a Deadman song at the end that felt completely out of place, wtf

but you got to admit that as far as atmosphere, interactivity and tension go Indigo Prophecy definitely had its moments of sheer brillance
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2009, 05:19:30 AM
but you got to admit that as far as atmosphere, interactivity and tension go Indigo Prophecy definitely had its moments of sheer brillance

You had me until interactivity.  I dunno, hitting simon says buttons while cutscenes play out does not strike me as great moments of interactivity :P
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Jansen on May 23, 2009, 01:18:52 PM
the gameplay videos are embarrassingly bad

terrible animation and VA. the cop is about to be fucking crushed and he's practically expressionless
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Mondain on May 23, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
what I remember reading is that Quantic Dream was outsourcing most of its assets to India, maybe that's why some character models and environments look a bit funny... I think we're going to see a whole lot more of that in the industry, it's the only way to counter the continuously rising cost of creating assets

but I don't think it takes away anything from the visual splendor of the game

but you got to admit that as far as atmosphere, interactivity and tension go Indigo Prophecy definitely had its moments of sheer brillance

You had me until interactivity.  I dunno, hitting simon says buttons while cutscenes play out does not strike me as great moments of interactivity :P

I liked the way in which you only had limited time to choose your reactions in the game, granted it was far from the first game to use timed reactions to dialogue trees but the principle was used well

in the leaked gameplay demonstration with the girl infiltrating the taxidermist's house Cage was insisting that apart from combat reactions nothing was QTE'd, everything the character did was the result of real-time character control... he said that he wants to maintain the detached feel of an adventure game

I agree to a certain extent, it's nice to have a change from mindless button bashing from time to time
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bildi on June 04, 2009, 11:17:10 PM
How does the ARI work?  Is it pointing out things that are on the ground?
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Bildi on June 05, 2009, 12:14:20 AM
That sounds really neat.

I HATE when games make me look at the ground to find shit.  The dogtags in Gears is a good example - I was always looking at the damn ground when all the pretty stuff was up above.  Dead Space did it right with the indicators popping up showing you ammo is at your feet.
Title: Re: Heavy Rain or Heavy Downgrade?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2009, 01:33:09 PM
Indigo Prophecy was trash, there's about an 80% chance that Heavy Rain will be too.