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Title: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on May 29, 2009, 09:19:03 PM

(http://www.ufointeractivegames.com/games/lg/wots3boxbig.gif)

http://www.ufointeractivegames.com/details.asp?k=2447&p=xbox360

$49.99 , only 360 version it seems like.

Best announcement at E3 so far

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2009, 09:26:04 PM

Yeah, the only reason they brought it out on 360 in Japan was because Sony wouldn't let the PS3 version come to the US and they wanted US sales.

I'm guessing it was rejected because it looked like a PS2 game.  :\

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Draft on May 30, 2009, 11:26:34 AM

Zoro?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 30, 2009, 11:31:42 AM

Quote from: Jinfash on May 29, 2009, 09:28:36 PM

I hope this game sells decently so Sony would learn a lesson or two. I still can't process the irony.

Yeah, because heaven forbid you release games that people might want?

Stupid fucking SCEA.

Title: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released on both consoles by different companies
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2009, 02:47:31 AM

So this is a weird one.

UFO Interactive is releasing the 360 version of Way of the Samurai 3 in North America on October 15th, 2009.

Agetec is releasing the PS3 version of Way of the Samurai 3 in North America on October 15th, 2009.

Both versions will contain the extra content that was developed for the 360 version in Japan.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on July 07, 2009, 03:43:00 AM

What was the extra content?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2009, 03:44:00 AM

I think it was just new faces, new costumes and new accessories

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on July 07, 2009, 03:45:13 AM

Agetec didn't say anything about bringing out the PSP WoTS1 in English, huh?   :-\

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2009, 03:49:19 AM

Not yet at least. The president of Agetec ended up posting on GameFAQS that they're releasing the PS3 version after it showed up on Gamefly's release list.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 07, 2009, 04:00:26 AM

I'm probably going to buy the 360 and PS3 versions if they're both released.  I wonder what the differences are.

and WotS2 PSP was apparently announced as well (for Japan).  The first (better) game was a good PSP port, but I don't think it will come.  The best to hope for is a euro release and importing/buying on euro psn.  Shinobido got that treatment.

btw, the first Yuusha game is coming out as Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman next week; it's PSN online only.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 07, 2009, 06:41:12 PM

I fucking love Agetec, who's brought to these shores some really interesting and nichey games over the last decade or so.  Thanks for Disaster Report, Raw Danger, Space Channel 5 part 2 (with the first game, for 15 bones brand new!), and now this.  I love those guys.

And I'm really starting to love me some UFO Interactive, who is steadily bringing out 2D shooters to America, which is tits.  Any company that takes a chance on the very wacky Ilvelo  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJO3CYbrQM) deserves some credit.

:bow Agetec :bow2
:bow UFO :bow2

:piss SCEA :piss2

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 14, 2009, 01:39:21 PM

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75344
http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75343

gamestop now lists both a PS3 and 360 version coming to NA on October 13th for $50 instead of $60

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 14, 2009, 02:01:32 PM

(http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/270460brp.jpg)(http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/200747brp.jpg)

I think they can take the little stamp off the 360 version now.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: demi on July 14, 2009, 02:10:44 PM

Does it bother you?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 14, 2009, 02:11:36 PM

btw, this is out the same day as Brutal Legend and it's $10 less.  Buy this instead.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Himu on July 14, 2009, 02:22:22 PM

i'm getting both this an brutal legend

both for ps3

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 14, 2009, 02:26:40 PM

Quote from: demi on July 14, 2009, 02:10:44 PM

Does it bother you?

Nope. They can leave it on, it just seems a little odd.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: demi on July 14, 2009, 02:29:03 PM

I dont see anything odd about it. There's only one good version, and it's only on Xbox 360. No false advertising.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on July 14, 2009, 05:08:00 PM

I'll probably get this on PS3.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: MCD on July 14, 2009, 06:17:33 PM

no lyte, you will get it for 360 and you will like it.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: jiji on July 14, 2009, 07:39:28 PM

:bow Agetec :bow2

Agetec say they'll be including the JP language track.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 14, 2009, 08:01:17 PM

Quote from: Himuro on July 14, 2009, 02:22:22 PM

i'm getting both this an brutal legend

both for ps3

I'm getting this on PS3 and Brutal Legend on 360.  I'll probably get the 360 version of wots3 when it goes on sale eventually.

Quote from: jiji on July 14, 2009, 07:39:28 PM

:bow Agetec :bow2

Agetec say they'll be including the JP language track.

:bow Agetec :bow2

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: jiji on July 16, 2009, 03:27:52 PM

I started the first game again last night. It'd been years since I first played it, and I didn't really get into it back then. It's a lot more fun when you play it as a narrative you can screw with, rather than just a beat 'em up.  :shh  The whole thing feels like a lot of polish and care went into it. I think I might get into the fighting system a lot more this time.  I hope 3 is better than what I've heard of 2.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 16, 2009, 09:00:18 PM

WotS2 wasn't a bad game.  There were only two big problems with it: 1) the setting and individual stories took way longer than the first game; 2) combat was broken easy with counters.  WotS1 is a lot more balanced with structure and combat, but WotS2 is still great, even if it's not as good.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on July 17, 2009, 01:40:41 AM

Acquire is one of my favorite devs, and yeah, their publisher history is all over the place.

and if you count Samurai Western as part of the wots series, which I would do if only because the last boss had a badass western remix of the wots intro tune, then it would be 4 different publishers.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 09, 2009, 08:49:01 PM

I just tried to do an instore pickup preorder at Gamestop.com. It won't let you.

 :dizzy

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: chronovore on September 14, 2009, 11:08:08 AM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 16, 2009, 10:55:33 PM

3 games in the series, 4 NA publishers.  I think series started by Acquire are cursed or something.

Ah well, I hope the PSP version of WotS gets an English release.  I never get tired of that game.

What's the big attraction of WotS? I've never picked one up.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on September 14, 2009, 07:13:06 PM

what he said

It's maybe the best game at portraying the consequences of your actions.  One of the ways it does this is by having the game be very short and built for replaying, which is another part of the appeal.   You can kill the blacksmith in the game and he will be totally gone from the rest of the story; you can't even upgrade your weapons.  Then when you replay it, you can follow a story path where he becomes your biggest ally and fights along side you.  This is true for most characters in the game.  There is even an ending for just leaving the set and not getting involved with any of their shit.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: chronovore on September 14, 2009, 07:37:42 PM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 14, 2009, 11:13:56 AM

It's kind of a unique game.  I think the major attraction of the games is the degree to which you can choose where the game goes.  There are tons of endings and story points and things that you can only see if you make certain decisions as you play.  It's a huge amount of narrative freedom.  For example, in the first game, the very first thing you come across is a girl being kidnapped or taken away by bandits.  You can choose to not interfere by just walking by, or you can fight the guys to save the girl, or you can fight the guys and kill the girl, or you can join the guys, or you can just turn around and leave town.  For every choice you could make there, the story will progress differently.

For me personally, I love the first game cuz it's like playing a video game version of the movie Yojimbo.

Fair warning though, the combat controls are a bit wonky. 

Sounds neat, thanks. It doesn't sound as though the combat controls keep you from enjoying it at all.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 14, 2009, 08:18:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20iOsARQPy8
Gameplay trailer.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Robo on September 14, 2009, 08:29:44 PM

air combos  :-\

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 15, 2009, 06:34:19 AM

Anybody have any luck finding this yet?  Gamestop pushed the date back to 10/20, but this is wrong and some mom n' pop stores have it.  Amazon says they have it in stock now for $46.99, too.  I pre-ordered it from them, but it says I won't get the game until 10/19, which makes no sense since I went with Prime one-day shipping. 

PS3 version for me, since I don't have a choice in the matter...the 360 version is apparently not region-free.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2009, 11:23:27 AM

last I checked Amazon said it was shipping or arriving on he 16th (PS3 version).

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: muckson on October 15, 2009, 11:53:16 AM

i love the shit out of this game.  it's definitely one of my favorite series ever since the first one came out in america.  then i just kept getting the japanese versions. 

much like godfather III was never part of the series - some even consider it to never have been made existing in a perpetual state of denial - samurai western is NOT part of the WoTS series. 

1 spoiler for joo?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

you can do "ni to ryu" in this game after playing for a short while and earning the skill.  ni = 2.  to = sword.  ryu = style.  you can use any two swords you find.  earning new moves for it are expensive and can only be bought at one specific spot but it's worth it because they look cool and are fairly strong.

[close]

spoiler 2 for joo too?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

there are two blacksmiths.  they use hammers like before.  you can kill them and take the hammers, though they put up a really good fight in this game.  the hammers are actually a couple of really good weapons.  on top of that you can use them with "ni to ryu" and you have some fairly solid stat boosts.

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Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 15, 2009, 07:22:15 PM

It shipped!  :hyper

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2009, 08:19:41 PM

I got mine in the mail

:bow Amazon :bow2

Will probably finish Brutal Legend first.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 16, 2009, 08:03:33 PM

This is the first PS3 game I've played on my Asus 1080P monitor that has some major issues when set to 1080P.  Dropping the PS3 resolution down to 720P fixes the problem; in 1080P, you get a screen tearing-like effect and "scan line" type effects everywhere.   :-\  I get the same issue when playing certain PS2 games on the PS3 too.

The game looks better on my little 19" Toshiba HDTV.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Robo on October 16, 2009, 08:17:55 PM

So how is this as an introduction to the series?  I'm interested in the concept, but I haven't played any of the others. 

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: MCD on October 16, 2009, 08:24:38 PM

Quote from: RoboJ on October 16, 2009, 08:17:55 PM

So how is this as an introduction to the series?  I'm interested in the concept, but I haven't played any of the others. 

same here.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2009, 08:26:02 PM

It's a great introduction to the series, they're completely stand alone titles. Only $35 at Fry's this weekend!

That said, an in-game map would be very welcome. I hate having to pause the game and look at the map to figure out where things are.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 16, 2009, 08:32:48 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on October 16, 2009, 08:26:02 PM

It's a great introduction to the series, they're completely stand alone titles. Only $35 at Fry's this weekend!

That said, an in-game map would be very welcome. I hate having to pause the game and look at the map to figure out where things are.

There's an option (that is off by default for whatever reason) to hit L3 and bring up the map screen.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2009, 08:36:01 PM

Quote from: the lyte edge™ on October 16, 2009, 08:32:48 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on October 16, 2009, 08:26:02 PM

It's a great introduction to the series, they're completely stand alone titles. Only $35 at Fry's this weekend!

That said, an in-game map would be very welcome. I hate having to pause the game and look at the map to figure out where things are.

There's an option (that is off by default for whatever reason) to hit L3 and bring up the map screen.

That's great, but I still wish a map was on-screen while you're actually playing the game like the Ryu ga Gotoku series.

Where the hell are those granny's panties?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 16, 2009, 08:45:29 PM

playing through Brutal Legend I'm wishing there was a mini-map.  Good to know that the feeling will stick as I move onto this.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2009, 09:14:20 PM

I found the obaasan's undies, and as soon as I picked them up, a crow stole them... and you can't kill the crows.

AWESOME.  :maf

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 16, 2009, 10:08:36 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on October 16, 2009, 09:14:20 PM

I found the obaasan's undies, and as soon as I picked them up, a crow stole them... and you can't kill the crows.

AWESOME.  :maf

Yeah, that happened to me too.  Then I ended up dying a short time later, started over, and can't find the fucking furoshiki anywhere.   :-\

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2009, 01:42:47 AM

I played for maybe 2 hours and made no progress  :lol

So far it's awesome.  The combat seems more difficult than it was in the past two games.  I'm getting destroyed by everyone.  I went to the dojo, but everything the guy on the second floor said was nonsense.  It would have been nice if he would teach you instead of talking, then sparring.  And yeah, a mini-map or even just a compass would help a lot.

I've already:
-beat up a kid for insulting samurai
-caught a woman stealing things from dead bodies, confronted her, cut off her skirt and knocked her out
-got into a random fight with a ninja who went around killing samurai (ended with me dying)
-saw old guys getting robbed; I fought the attackers.  They stopped and tried to explain they weren't the bad guys; I didn't care and killed them anyway
-knocked out some old thug after he attacked me because I reminded him of his mother
-found an old lady who thought I was her son, so I pretended to be.  She healed me and then we made rice for profit

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: muckson on October 17, 2009, 11:20:00 AM

this is a good intro to the series because the graphics are newer and the fighting is a little cleaner, along with a ton of shit to do.  if you like it then you can just go back and get 1 or 2 for relatively cheap.

no one's tried out ni to ryu yet?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: MCD on October 17, 2009, 11:26:15 AM

Will buy this cheap on 360.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: chronovore on October 17, 2009, 11:01:04 PM

Will be getting this on 360 via Play-Asia when the price bottoms out.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 17, 2009, 11:13:42 PM

Quote from: muckson on October 17, 2009, 11:20:00 AM

this is a good intro to the series because the graphics are newer and the fighting is a little cleaner, along with a ton of shit to do.  if you like it then you can just go back and get 1 or 2 for relatively cheap.

no one's tried out ni to ryu yet?

I dunno where to find ni to ryu!

Haven't played this too much yet.  I keep going back to Uncharted 2 multi.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2009, 12:20:01 AM

this game is so good

It's embarrassing that all these western rpgs pretend to be about choices and none can even hope to match how many branches this game had.  I became the ruler of the Bandits by killing their leader and elite soldiers.  In another run, I was fighting these people as if they were the end game.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2009, 01:36:51 AM

Sounds like the 360 version is region locked.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: chronovore on October 18, 2009, 04:35:16 AM

Has this been out for awhile already? It seems like the PS3 version was on sale cheap, used, when I got my PS3.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 18, 2009, 04:37:49 AM

Yup, the 360 version is region-locked.

Quote from: chronovore on October 18, 2009, 04:35:16 AM

Has this been out for awhile already? It seems like the PS3 version was on sale cheap, used, when I got my PS3.

The Japanese version is almost a year old, yeah.  There's an updated version coming out next week (Samurai Dou 3 Plus), which will have additional content and should be the same as the U.S. version.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: chronovore on October 18, 2009, 05:31:20 AM

That explains why they were cheap: clearing out inventory before the new edition arrives.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 18, 2009, 06:32:06 AM

I think Plus is going to be a budget-priced re-release, too.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2009, 02:24:29 PM

Quote from: the lyte edge™ on October 18, 2009, 06:32:06 AM

I think Plus is going to be a budget-priced re-release, too.

Amazon has the MSRP as 3,990 yen so it's definitely a budget release.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Bebpo on October 18, 2009, 03:20:39 PM

Wait, what did they add to the US version????

I have the JPN version but haven't gotten around to playing it much.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 18, 2009, 03:24:59 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on October 18, 2009, 03:20:39 PM

Wait, what did they add to the US version????

I have the JPN version but haven't gotten around to playing it much.

All the stuff the JPN 360 version got. Not sure what it is, though.

edit: Wiki mentions three new companions and some other stuff not specified. I think new weapons.

Quote

    * The ability to make three heroines (Osei, Gihime, and Itsuse) and your "Sensei" into your companion
    * Unlockable costumes for companions
    * Additional main character models
    * Added super hard difficulty setting
    * Trophy support
    * Additional equipment parts

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2009, 03:52:06 PM

anyone know how to get a companion who uses a sword? I want to learn how to catch a sword when using melee, but both people who seem to teach swordplay theater say you need someone who can.  The only companion I've found is that old lady who thinks your her son.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2009, 05:08:55 PM

in 10+ hours of playing, the game freezes for the first time when I'm trying to do a run without saving :lol

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Bebpo on October 18, 2009, 05:16:37 PM

Wait the original has no trophy support?  Lol, I think I'll just rebuy the US version. 

*edit I stuck the game in to see if the JPN version got patched with the trophies and there was a big patch and it had to convert my save game file to work with the post-patch version....but no trophies :\

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2009, 06:58:18 PM

Most of the trophies seem like thing I won't ever do.  I mean, there are some for getting all the endings, but then there are some that are about mastering and collecting all the swords and shit like that.  There are 107 swords and 100+ moves for each style.  There are two silver ones that are deal with killing strong enemies, like Sensei in the dojo or assassinating the Lord guy.

The last run I played wasn't as good as previous ones since I was trying to see what the Lord route would be.  The only good that came from it was learning that the secret ninja association requires Yuma to be alive to progress past a point, and when the guards arrested the daughter of the farmer, I went to her brother, said "I was the one who told them about her" and he started to kick me while crying.

and it's pretty hilarious that this game looks like a PS2 game (not even a good looking PS2 game) and it still has frame rate problems.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: muckson on October 19, 2009, 08:10:02 AM

lyte?  ni to?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

after getting something around 1200 points you just hold down the right bumper for 2 seconds to do DOUBLE SWORD ULTRA STAR KILL STYLE.  should be the same for ps3.

[close]

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 20, 2009, 07:32:48 PM

what is ni to ryu?

anyway, I bought all the scrolls and mastered double sword, double ninja sword and bare hand skills.  You can totally wreck people with your bare hands.  Catching blades and throwing them around and doing flips and shit.  I also unlocked he ability to play as any NPC in the game, so I could that little girl from the village and be knocking out people like it's nothing.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 20, 2009, 07:37:32 PM

Ni to ryu is the two-sword style.

I haven't even beaten this once yet, LOL.  I'm finding it kind of boring now, TBH. Wandering aimlessly isn't that fun.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: iconoclast on October 20, 2009, 07:59:27 PM

Wait, you can actually be the little girl?!

My dream has come true! Why don't I have this yet?

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 20, 2009, 08:05:57 PM

Quote from: iconoclast on October 20, 2009, 07:59:27 PM

Wait, you can actually be the little girl?!

My dream has come true! Why don't I have this yet?

You can be any NPC once you get the option to play as them, them knock them out in-game.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 20, 2009, 08:13:11 PM

You eventually unlock the option to play as any character you can knock out (pressing select switches your weapon from blade to blunt side).  The easiest way to do that is unlock hard by playing a few times, then select hard mode, beat up the two thugs harassing the girl in the village, eat a turnip, and leave.  It ranks you as vegetarian and gives you 1050 points.  You unlock everything relating to samurai points at 10,000.  That includes all the costumes, head, extra options (blood color, etc.) and a lot of accessories.

Basically, any NPC you knock out is later added to the list (there are 100+) to use.  You can customize them by adding various accessories (hats, glasses, devil wings, etc.) and select their animation style.  If you pick the little girl, for example, her default animation set has her moving really slow because of her skirt.

The only NPC you can't use are little kids and dogs.

surprisingly, the best npc isn't the young girl.  In one part of the game you

spoiler (click to show/hide)

get attacked by one of the characters from Shinobido.  I knocked him out and play as a ninja.  Right now I'm actually trying to find him again so I can kill him and take his sword.

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Quote from: the lyte edge™ on October 20, 2009, 07:37:32 PM

Ni to ryu is the two-sword style.

I haven't even beaten this once yet, LOL.  I'm finding it kind of boring now, TBH. Wandering aimlessly isn't that fun.

I felt the same until it kinda clicked and I began to understand it.  When I learned all the icons, the time and that I could quick move to location, it became all good.  I don't really wander unless I'm actually looking for random npcs to show up (Samurai Hunter, who has two ninja blades).  I'm played through many times and only got 5 endings (don't know how many total, but a trophy says there are more).

and yeah, the dual sword stuff is crazy strong.  In terms of sheer power, it can just shred strong enemies in a few hits.

For as much as I have played already, I haven't even done the sword creating yet.  I have really good parts that I don't want to waste on a style that I don't have all the skills for yet.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 20, 2009, 08:39:05 PM

I just played the game for a bit.  Not really sure if it's for me now.  I may end up trading it in, but I'm going to keep playing first.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 20, 2009, 09:31:22 PM

The game is probably not for a lot of people. 

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Jansen on October 25, 2009, 02:47:04 AM

Quote from: MCD on October 17, 2009, 11:26:15 AM

Will buy this cheap on 360.

how cheap? because this game isn't even worth $10.

love how you'll get the same jobs over and over again. i found grannies undies 4 times my first playthru and on my second game she gave me that same job twice in a row.

and i knew the graphics were going to be total shit but what i didn't expect was the extreme slowdown that occurs when only 10 enemies are on screen.

this game fucking blows.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: MCD on October 25, 2009, 03:01:21 AM

you are so hot when you get mad.

and i doubt i will regret it for $10, it's afterall a japanese game. :drake

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 25, 2009, 05:27:22 AM

Damn Jansen, that's pretty harsh!   :o  The game's far from shit, but it does have issues.  I think I am indeed selling it for Tekken this week...just not feeling it.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 25, 2009, 10:58:05 AM

As I said, the game is probably not for a lot of people.  I'm guessing you guys didn't play the past two games either, or just went in not realizing how the games are played.  WotS3 is actually more accessible than the last two.

I played this game a lot (to the point where I "finished" playing just yesterday) and I only did that underwear finding job once.  The only jobs you need to do are at the Castle to get in good favor with Shuzen to assassinate him.  Just getting money is never important.  All you need to do is kill the leader of the Ouka clan and they pay you 1000 yen every (in-game) day.  Then buy what you want, kill the merchant and get your money back.

And just about getting the same jobs, I don't think you understand that the game is basically like Groundhog Day or Dead Rising in that you are literally playing through the same period of time again.  Everything is reset except for your items.  As I said above, the jobs serve no real purpose either unless you want the achievement (and if you do, go find the guys who want you to cut up Tuna since that upgrades your blade as you slice it).  The game is more accessible since it tells you where to do on the map and you can quick jump to any of those locations right away.

Quote from: the lyte edge™ on October 25, 2009, 05:27:22 AM

Damn Jansen, that's pretty harsh!   :o  The game's far from shit, but it does have issues.  I think I am indeed selling it for Tekken this week...just not feeling it.

It has a lot of issues, but if you don't understand how the wots games are played, it would probably seem awful right away.  The graphics, combat and most things you'd expect from a normal game aren't very good.  Even though I played for a long time, I still think the combat is pretty bad.  Load times are awful and the graphics are bad for the PS2.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Jansen on October 25, 2009, 12:42:30 PM

um no i fucking understand that you're playing the same period of time each time you start over again. that much is pretty goddamned obvious. besides i STILL got repeat jobs in the same damn game. the distinguished mentally-challenged developers should of used what little brains they have and figured out how to make sure you never get the same job twice in the same playthru.

and while i'm going on about the jobs lets talk about just how goddamned dumb they are. push granny to the toilet? find the radish thief and beat him (chasing him and any other chase'em job like this is dumb)? seriously let's not make excuses for poor game design.

now i'll list what i like:

death being permanent (even though you can sign out of your profile or reset your system to bypass it)
the combat (can you manually switch targets? that's my only complaint about it)
choose your own adventure style of gameplay

but the jobs, horrible slowdown in big battles, smallish world divided into sectors, no minimap and tons of other crap make for a shitty game.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: cool breeze on October 25, 2009, 02:14:33 PM

ok, that's a shame then.  Return it or stop playing if it makes you so angry.  I enjoyed it a lot.

btw, there are apparently supposed to be 29 endings.  The first game only had about 6.  I don't know how different they get since I've had two endings that were very similar.

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: Jansen on October 25, 2009, 04:42:02 PM

i'm not really angry it's just my tolerance for mediocre or poor games is at an all time low these days. i used to be able to play any old game, no matter how bad, and derive some amount of enjoyment out of em.

i blame all the bad jrpgs that i've played. :'(

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: bork on October 25, 2009, 05:17:06 PM

I've played the first two.  It's not difficult to understand how the games are played; it's pretty shallow overall, but benefits from having all the choices you make affecting the game outcome.  That's great and all, but the execution could have been done better.

I'd still get WoTS1 and 2 on PSP if they ever come out in English, but as it stands, the best games from Acquire are Shinobido and Tenchu 4. 

Title: Re: Way of the Samurai 3 to be released in America only on American system
Post by: demi on October 25, 2009, 05:23:46 PM

Quote from: Jansen on October 25, 2009, 04:42:02 PM

i'm not really angry it's just my tolerance for mediocre or poor games is at an all time low these days. i used to be able to play any old game, no matter how bad, and derive some amount of enjoyment out of em.

i blame all the bad jrpgs that i've played. :'(

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