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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on June 12, 2009, 01:03:25 PM

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Post by: Borys on June 12, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
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Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2009, 01:06:23 PM
The problem isn't a poor choice of words when you do a complete 180 on your position. There's another term for that and it's a lot less flattering.

And you've gotta love the comments at IGN:

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so get over the fact that he was nice enough to retract his statement for the sake of Sony's sales.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: maxy on June 12, 2009, 01:07:14 PM
Yeah i saw that earlier

 :rofl
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 12, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
I guess his first statement was a little too accurate.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 12, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
Why anyone takes this tool seriously is beyond me.
yup. dude is consistently way off the mark in his predictions, despite having "superior" information regarding supply channels. plus if you have ever heard the guy talk, his assumptions don't seem to be based in reality
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: GilloD on June 12, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
Really? I stay out of "GAME NEWS" because it's a cess pool, but is this really what you guys put up with? Dude spoke the truth, he didn't say "ROFL WHAT A BUINCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS". And then he 180s for mysterious reasons? Jeezum crow.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on June 12, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Isn't he actually on Sony's payroll or something?
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 12, 2009, 02:00:49 PM
Analysts! Whee
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Robo on June 12, 2009, 02:07:19 PM
Can't both statements be correct?  Yeah, the pricing strategy is probably designed to compete with the iPod Touch, and yes, it is a fucking ripoff.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Bocsius on June 12, 2009, 02:08:14 PM
Somebody got a paddling and was sent to bed without dinner.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Draft on June 12, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
What a little bitch.

Like all those scumbag republicans turning promptly aboutface after taking swipes at Limbaugh.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 12, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
By the time Sony sells a million PSP Gos, Apple will likely have a $99 iPod Touch in stores.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 12, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
it's not just games, the PC and tech press and the analysts they quote are mostly worthless as well
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 12, 2009, 05:05:26 PM
Some of you are so ignorant.  For the 800th time, this kind of analysis is what Pachter does for free in his spare time.  His real job is to advise his clients who and when to buy and sell, essentially.  Supposedly he's very good at that job.

For the 1000th time: nobody fucking cares about iPhone and iPod gaming. NO-FUCKING-BODY. Not even Talibans.

Are you serious?  The App Store is wildly successful and most of that is driven by games.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 12, 2009, 05:26:49 PM
Some of you are so ignorant.  For the 800th time, this kind of analysis is what Pachter does for free in his spare time.  His real job is to advise his clients who and when to buy and sell, essentially.  Supposedly he's very good at that job.

For the 1000th time: nobody fucking cares about iPhone and iPod gaming. NO-FUCKING-BODY. Not even Talibans.

Are you serious?  The App Store is wildly successful and most of that is driven by games.

Yup. The Top 15 is usually mostly games. Probably why the iPhone is getting Madden 10 and the PC isn't.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 12, 2009, 05:32:02 PM
Some of you are so ignorant.  For the 800th time, this kind of analysis is what Pachter does for free in his spare time.  His real job is to advise his clients who and when to buy and sell, essentially.  Supposedly he's very good at that job.
What do you think valuations are based on? If he is valuing EA, he has to make growth and earnings assumptions, both of which require sales forecasting and estimates. I imagine that alot of the same information is applicable. 
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 12, 2009, 05:55:35 PM
Some of you are so ignorant.  For the 800th time, this kind of analysis is what Pachter does for free in his spare time.  His real job is to advise his clients who and when to buy and sell, essentially.  Supposedly he's very good at that job.
What do you think valuations are based on? If he is valuing EA, he has to make growth and earnings assumptions, both of which require sales forecasting and estimates. I imagine that alot of the same information is applicable. 

True to an extent, but if you look at his track record (and his rankings on GAF), he's actually towards the top percentile.  If any of us had all of predictions logged and scrutinized, I'm sure we'd whiff all the time, too.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: pilonv1 on June 12, 2009, 09:57:37 PM
For the 1000th time: nobody fucking cares about iPhone and iPod gaming. NO-FUCKING-BODY. Not even Talibans.

lol you have no idea. It's more important than you think
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 12, 2009, 11:29:07 PM
man, Sony missed a prime opportunity to leech off some of that iphone game money by not putting a touch screen on the psp go

they could have had a "touch games" section on the store only accessible from the go version of the psp, and pulled in handfuls of cash from all the iports

Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 13, 2009, 01:42:54 AM
Totally agree.  That is exactly what I was expecting them to do with the thing back when rumors of it having a slide design.

I still can't believe they only have Home, L and R to use when the thing is closed.  It just doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 13, 2009, 01:50:34 AM
http://kotaku.com/5288956/pspgo-getting-an-app-store

app store incoming, yet another reason for a touch screen

what a pain in the ass it's gonna be for people who buy this, having to slide that thing open and closed for every single action

"let me set my alarm...goddamnit"

"hey, take a look at the pics i took...goddamnit"

"let me add you to my psp address book...goddamnit"

"haha, i gotta rewind that scene...goddamnit"


Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 13, 2009, 02:11:47 AM
but you can at least play Loco Roco with it closed!...almost.  Some parts of that game require the face buttons.  So, you can almost play a full PSP game using the PSP Go's revolutionary sliding screen in the closed position.

Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 13, 2009, 02:28:52 AM
http://kotaku.com/5288956/pspgo-getting-an-app-store

app store incoming, yet another reason for a touch screen

what a pain in the ass it's gonna be for people who buy this, having to slide that thing open and closed for every single action

"let me set my alarm...goddamnit"

"hey, take a look at the pics i took...goddamnit"

"let me add you to my psp address book...goddamnit"

"haha, i gotta rewind that scene...goddamnit"




:lol

Pretty much. And I laugh at it being placed against the iPhone/Zune. The thing (when closed) looks like a device that has a touchscreen. Its as if Sony wanted to do it at some point and decided we'll milk this platform dry until we actually do something with it.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 13, 2009, 02:34:00 AM
I think they actually have a weaker battery inside the Go because with all the cutbacks, from screen size to UMD drive, it still has the same 3-6 hours estimates for battery life.  I would have thought they would improve on that with this version.

Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 13, 2009, 03:32:52 AM
Yea is Sony put a touch screen on it, I'm sue EA would port all their iPhone stuff over for day 1 download. Tiger woods, sims 3, spore, sim city, need for speed, plus all their puzzle and hasbro board games and you'd have a string Go library from EA alone at launch.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: chronovore on June 13, 2009, 04:12:31 AM
Can we get back to bashing analysts, please?

Christ, I hate these tools more than lawyers. They're always mouthing off about what's coming based on what's already happened, trends they recognize, but fail to account for some of the most recognizeable patterns. They would have been the ones predicting banner years for all the FPS clones coming out the year after Quake, and all the RTS one-offs that launched and died after Warcraft II, because the initial title was so popular. They're pretending to be psychic and all-knowing, they're backward looking goombas who know nothing, and that they get ANY airtime is just remarkably annoying. Why the hell don't they focus on some other media like TV or film?
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2009, 11:27:11 AM
If nothing else, Sony's working hard to make that DSi look like a better deal.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: The Sceneman on June 14, 2009, 05:30:56 AM
what you people don't realise is the PSP go isn't even aimed at you, this cluster fuck of a product is aimed at the non-sony fanboy non-psp owning fence sitter who happens to have $249.99 to burn on an inferior version of the PSP that they've been holding off on for 4-5 years.

Sony did the research, and they are going to make those people very happy. All 42 of them.

 

 :lol
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: M3wThr33 on June 24, 2009, 09:24:27 PM
It's bullshit he retracted it. It's overpriced and he should stand by his statement.
Title: Re: Pachter PWND by Sony
Post by: chronovore on June 24, 2009, 10:33:38 PM
It's bullshit he retracted it. It's overpriced and he should stand by his statement.

This is what happens when you attract the attention of a monster. When it finally notices you, and you realize it could just squash you effortlessly... well, I suspect most analysts are not known for their inability to calculate odds.