THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: bork on June 26, 2009, 01:42:31 AM
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Got BlazBlue yesterday and am totally digging it! For some reason, I've never been very much into Guilty Gear, although I've enjoyed Arc System Works' other fighting games. BlazBlue is very much in the same vein as Guilty Gear, right down to the spiky-haired main character (but with WHITE hair instead of black, huge change!) in red and black with a huge sword, and his rival, the skinny blonde-haired guy with the rapier, or "Ice Ky" as I have seen people call him. But while there are some similarities, most of the characters are pretty different from GG characters, and are pretty unique compared to most other fighting games.
BlazBlue is visually what fans wanted Street Fighter IV to be: Hand-drawn, HD sprites, on top of gorgeous 3D backgrounds. You get stage intros before every fight, and they add a lot of personality to the game. The sprites blend in with the 3D backdrops perfectly. The sound is a mix of GG-style butt rock, but also with some jazz and other flavors. The voices and sound effects are also not muffled, which I think is a first for a sprite-based Arc game. You can choose to have either English or Japanese voices, although this only affects your character, so if your opponent has a different language setting, their characters will speak in their alternate voices!
The game offers arcade, versus, training, score attack, online versus, and story modes. Story mode seems to be pretty big; it seems similar to the GG series' story modes, but is fully-voiced.
As for online options, here is a listing of all the options/preference markers you can set when creating a room in player match. This beats the pants off any other fighter on 360/PS3 that I can think of!
-Room Name
-Capacity (Up to 6 players)
-Spectators (Up to 4; you can set 1 if you have a 3 man room, 2 if it's 4, etc.)
-Friend Invitations
-Rotation Type (3 types)
-Number Of Rounds (Up to 5)
-Round Time
-Astral Heat (On or Off)
-Unlimited Characters (The default setting is on disabled)
-Easy Specials
-Voice Chat
-Room Level (Unspecified, Beginner, or Expert)
-Connection Quality
You can also save replays after every match, and upload replays in ranked matches!
The U.S. versions hit next week...gonna double-dip and get the PS3 version too, which has PSP remote play! The first run of the game is the LE version, which among other things will come with a tutorial DVD with tips and strategies for beginners...and it's all freebies since the game will be sold at the regular $59.99 price!
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The NeoGaf thread has just about all the details covered, copy pasta!
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BlazBlue is an HD 2D Fighting by Arc System Works, makers of the critically lauded Guilty Gear series. BlazBlue is the spiritual successor to Guilty Gear, sharing its ideals of crazy characters, crazy attacks, gorgeous graphics, and an amazingly deep and fun fighting experience.
Official Websites:
http://blazblue.jp/index.html (http://blazblue.jp/index.html)
http://www.aksysgames.com/blazblue/ (http://www.aksysgames.com/blazblue/)
For more BlazBlue forum discussion:
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/ (http://www.dustloop.com/forums/)
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=147989 (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=147989)
Previous GAF Discussion threads:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231631 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231631)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276480 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276480)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292373 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292373)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355816 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355816)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358189 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358189)
GAF ONLINE MEETUP THREAD:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16324637 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16324637)
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Release Date:
USA/CAN - June 30, 2009
JPN - June 25, 2009
PAL - ???
Platforms: 360, PS3
Price: $59.99 US, $69.99 CAN, ￥7,140 JPN
Developer: ARC System Works
Publisher: Aksys Games
ESRB Rating: T for Teen - Animated Blood, Language, Partial Nudity, Suggestive Themes, Violence (CERO B)
Region Free?: PS3 version is region-free. XBOX360 version is NOT totally region-free. A JPN copy will play on a NA system in full English and vice-versa. In fact, the JPN and NA versions are identical. However, PAL 360 systems cannot play either a JPN or NA copy.
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AOU 2008 Debut Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiXL6NWzVXM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiXL6NWzVXM)
Arcade Intro (HD) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcdCKfwsFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcdCKfwsFM)
Gameplay Montage (HD) - http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-montage-blazblue-calamity/46403 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-montage-blazblue-calamity/46403)
Console Opening + Promo Vid (HD) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2DTDN4bkMk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2DTDN4bkMk)
US Console Version footage (HD) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hQ9dEqUEg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hQ9dEqUEg)
G4 X-Play Interview/Preview - http://g4tv.com/videos/37061/Hands-On-Preview-BlazBlue-Calamity-Trigger/ (http://g4tv.com/videos/37061/Hands-On-Preview-BlazBlue-Calamity-Trigger/)
Characters Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpanuPKSV7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpanuPKSV7Y)
Combo Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnem-4t1yTs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnem-4t1yTs)
Gamersyde First 10 (19?) Minutes (720p 60fps) - http://www.gamersyde.com/news_8143_en.html (http://www.gamersyde.com/news_8143_en.html)
Toshimichi Mori Interview (HD) - http://www.gametrailers.com/video/designer-interview-blazblue-calamity/46411 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/designer-interview-blazblue-calamity/46411)
Japanese Inside XBOX Special - http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7222895 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7222895)
Anime TV Special - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqeNThjOyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqeNThjOyY)
What the hell is going on? - http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1241694041 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1241694041)
More Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=blazblue&aq=f (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=blazblue&aq=f)
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/blazblue-calamity-trigger/6382 (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/blazblue-calamity-trigger/6382)
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/142/14246579/vids_1.html (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/142/14246579/vids_1.html)
http://www.1up.com/do/search?term=blazblue&type=VIDEOS&adPage=2 (http://www.1up.com/do/search?term=blazblue&type=VIDEOS&adPage=2)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/blazblue (http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/blazblue)
Soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYPROxaxJ-E&feature=PlayList&p=B21A7B902E10F4EB&index=0&playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYPROxaxJ-E&feature=PlayList&p=B21A7B902E10F4EB&index=0&playnext=1)
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Prior to the events of BlazBlue, humanity was on the verge of extinction from the "Black Beast", a creature of Darkness. The world was saved by six heroes who wielded magic. They helped humanity create "Armagus", a fusion of magic and technology, to defeat the Beast.
After the war, the Novus Orbis Librarium Armagus (the Library for short) was created to govern the world with the use of Armagus. A great deal of dissent was caused by the Library, partly due to Armagus' use in nearly every facet of society, and the widening socioeconomic gap between those who could and couldn't use Armagus. This dissent would eventually form years later into The Ikaruga Civil War, when the Ikaruga Union openly rebelled against the Library. After the war, the Library imposed a harsher rule on the world, punishing any rebellion against the Library with the death penalty.
On December A.D. 2199, several years after the Ikaruga Civil War, a branch of the Library was utterly destroyed by an SS-class traitor named "Ragna the Bloodedge" also known as "The God of Death", in an attempt to destroy the entire Library. The Novus Orbis Librarium Armagus, hoping to stop him, immediately put the largest bounty ever for anyone who could capture him. Interestingly, Ragna possessed a powerful form of Armagus known as the "Azure Grimoire", also known as the BlazBlue. This led to the Librarium, as well as the Ikaruga Union and other fighters, to be after not just his bounty, but also his grimoire.
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The almighty force managing the "Operation", in order to obtain absolute power over the world, is this man who has rebelled against the "Novus Orbis Librarium Armagus". Known as the "God of Death", a bounty for his elimination has been placed in all the regions populated with branches of the Librarium. Ragna is said to be a reincarnation of the Black Beast, and also possesses the Azure Grimoire, a powerful form of Armagus, thus leading others to be after not just his bounty, but his grimoire as well. He is also said to be "blood brothers" with Jin, although he refuses to forgive him for the way he made the inside of his left arm, which currently appears to be mechanical instead of having the usual bones inside it. In game, his tactics revolve around using his power and large sword to keep pressure on his opponents. His Drive Ability is known as Soul Eater, which is used to absorb the opponents life.
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From a prestigious family, this man is a retainer of the Librarium's Kisaragi house. His class is Major. In the past, he had a distinguished military record during the "Ikaruga Civil War" that broke out, and was promoted to the position of Division Commander at an exceptionally young age. He is always cool and calm, though he is a deeply jealous, ambitious, and possessive person, with little care for others. He treats other people like a nuisance, with the exception of Ragna, who is said to be his "blood brother". His Drive Ability is known as Frost Bite, which specializes in freezing opponents.
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Because of her outstanding combat ability and suitable operation evaluations, she was selected to be Jin Kisaragi's direct subordinate in her youth. The two were acquaintances in the Military Academy, though Noel thought Jin was extremely weak. However, on a certain mission handed down from the Librarium, her preconceptions were changed. During the Ikaruga Civil War, she was found amidst the burning fields of Ikaruga, where she was rescued, after which she was adopted by her parents of the Vermillion family. Her Drive Ability is known as Chain Revolver, which specializes in chain linking her combos together.
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Originally the leader of a battle unit which revolved around physical combat, he was forced to withdraw from the front lines after sustaining a mortal wound in the Ikaruga Civil War. He was brought back from the brink of death at the hands of the scientist "Kokonoe" and revived as a cyborg, and is currently assigned to a combat unit under the direct control of Kokonoe. He seems to be pursuing Ragna, though his goals are entirely unclear. He is also shown to be working with Litchi Faye Ling, and apparently also knows about Arakune. His Drive Ability is Volttech Battler, which specializes in using electricity and magnetism so he can grab his enemies.
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A blood-sucking vampire who is the head of the Alucard family, as the head of the family an enormous castle and a servant have been handed down to her from previous generations. She carries a cat-shaped umbrella called Nago and fights using a chubby, red bat familiar called Gii. She slipped out of her castle in search of fun because she hates to be bored. She also seems to be constantly following Ragna around, which irritates him and causes him to tell her to go home. Her Drive Ability is Sylphide, which allows her to manipulate wind.
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A young lycanthrope of the Kaka tribe who live in the lower class part of Kagutsuchi. Her coat is equipped with massive paw-like hands that include long, retractable claws. She wants to get back the sky above her village that was sealed off with an enormous plate by humans who came to the land and started building a big city. She left her village in search of someone called Ragna after she heard that you could gain a lot of money for defeating him. Her Drive Ability is known as Dancing Edge: Reckless Kitty, which specializes at dashing at high speeds with a slash attack.
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A doctor in the oriental part of Kagutsuchi. Apparently, she is vital to the town because of her profession and her knack for sensing others' needs. She is a subordinate of the scientist Kokonoe alongside Tager, and is currently chasing after Arakune, determined to put an end to his life if neither she nor her fellow subordinates of Kokonoe can change him back to normal. Her Drive Ability is Mantenbou, which manipulates her staff into attacking opponents by itself.
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Once a man named Han who worked alongside Tager and Litchi, Arakune is an occult being that is constantly seeking knowledge. Its body consists of a mask-like face and an amorphous black and red body, which houses innumerable insects. Currently, it lives under the streets of Kagutsuchi. Because it needs to absorb large amounts of life force to continue its existence, it frequently attacks those of the Kaka tribe and humans alike. It also keeps a diary that it writes what has gone on during its life. Recently, it has sensed the presence of a being with unheard levels of life force, which has caused it to stir - namely, a certain "God of Death" posessing the Azure Grimoire. Its Drive Ability is Crimson, which curses the opponent to where several flying insects will attack him/her.
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A ninja-turned superhero, Bang has dedicated his life to exterminating evil and overturning injustice wherever he goes. The scar on his face was given to him by Jin, whom he would like to get back at for that exact fact. His Drive Ability is Burning Heart, which places emblems for every fire punch he lands on his opponent. When four of them are replaced, he can then use his Distortion Drive, "Fuurinkazan", which gives him enhanced speed and strength, although he cannot block.
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A young boy wearing a top hat who fights using a large mechanical maid puppet named Nirvana, an Ark-Enemy unit whom he refers to as his sister. He was once a student at the Military Academy alongside Jin and Noel, but he mysteriously dropped out while the other two graduated. Then, having heard of the bounty on Ragna's head, Carl decided to become a vigilante and go after his bounty on his own, with help from Nirvana. His Drive Ability is Auto Maton, which controls Nirvana.
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(Boss) A samurai-like cyborg/robot who resembles Justice from Guilty Gear. Haku-Men was one of the six heroes who battled against and defeated the Black Beast. Afterwards, he was locked away in the area where the Sheol Gate was located beneath the grounds of the area. Haku-Men follows a code of honor, and says that his sword will purify the world of sin and vanquish that which is evil. Unlike every other character, Haku-Men does not possess a standard Heat Gauge. It is instead replaced by a unique gauge that gradually stores up to eight orbs, which are then used in varying amounts for his specials and Distortion Drives. His Drive ability, Zanshin, involves counter attacks.
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(Boss) A Mecha Musume who lives at the Sheol Gate. Her name is pronounced as Nu. She is an Ark-Enemy unit with a personality that is split between a stoic battle android programmed to terminate hostile subjects and a sweet, pure, and innocent girl (the latter of which takes over when she's around Ragna). v -13- also seems to have a crush on Ragna the Bloodedge - which explains why she acts so strange when she's around him. Her Drive ability, Sword Summoner, revolves around attacking opponents with sword-like projectiles.
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For more detailed descriptions and even more advanced techniques:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox...e/958721/56115 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox...e/958721/56115)
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There are weak, medium, heavy, and drive attacks. Drive attacks are powerful, flashy moves. Standard blocks and throws (medium+heavy) can be performed. Your character can walk, dash, jump, air dash, backstep, or high jump. You can press any basic attack button in the air after being hit for a recovery.
BlazBlue's fighting system is very offensive oriented. While guarding is still available and the barrier system adds to your defensive toolkit, each defensive measure has a corresponding gauge that prevents abuse (turtling). Do NOT confuse "offensive oriented" for "button mashing". Because of the amount of tools and strategies available in the game, it's unlikely that button mashers will win many rounds.
Don't feel too intimidated by the number of possible moves in this game. The majority of them are actually quite easy to execute, and it's more about learning when you should use them.
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Health Bar - Self explanatory. If you get hurt, it goes down. If it disappears, you lose.
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Heat Gauge - The "super" meter of BlazBlue. It's used to perform Distortion Drives, Rapid Cancels, Counter Assaults, Astral Heat, and some special moves.
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Barrier Gauge - Decreases when you use the Barrier technique to defend. When it depletes to zero, you enter a "Danger" condition in which you take 50% more damage.
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Guard Libra - As each opponent guards, this gauge will shift left and right. If the Guard Libra fills up completely on one side, that player will be stunned temporarily. Avoid being punished by attacking offensively and knowing when to use Barrier!
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Distortion Drive - BlazBlue's "Super" move. Uses 50% of the heat gauge. Opponents cannot use Barrier Burst during a Distortion Drive.
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Astral Heat - Insta-kill move. Uses 100% of the heat gauge. The move can only be used when the opponent is at <20% health on the last round of the match.
Rapid Cancel - Similar to Guilty Gear's Roman Cancel. Uses 50% of the heat gauge. Lets you interrupt an attack animation to extend your combos and keep the pressure on your opponent.
Throw Escape - Use the throw buttons while your opponent is attempting to throw you to avoid the throw and the damage.
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Barrier - By pressing back and weak+medium, your character defends using a protective shield. Uses Barrier Guage. Can be used to defend against air moves that would otherwise be unblockable, eliminates chip damage, and barriers don't count against the guard libra. However there is greater pushback and it takes slightly longer to recover from than a normal block.
Ukemi - In BlazBlue, an opponent can still hit you while you're on the ground. To avoid an attack while on the ground, tap a direction on the joystick and A, B, or C to perform an Ukemi (or Wakeup) to dodge and get back on your feet.
Barrier Burst - By pressing all attack buttons at once, you can interrupt your opponent's combo. Depletes Barrier Gauge to zero and you will enter a "danger" condition and take 50% more damage for a brief period. Cannot be used during Distortion Drives.
Instant Guard - By guarding just before an attack, your character will flash white to show that they have done an instant guard. With an instant guard, you recover more quickly and the hit back effect is halved. Instant Barriers can also be done with similar results.
Counter Assault - After blocking an opponent's attack, press forward weak+medium to attack back. Uses 50% of the Heat Gauge
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Astral Finishes: All characters now have Astral Finishes in the console release, versus the 3 available AF's in the arcade release (Ragna, Rachel, V-13-).
Story Mode: The console release of BlazBlue includes a fully-fleshed out 30 hour long Story Mode that tells the tales of each character. The story is told using large character drawings and full voice acting.
Online Mutiplayer: BlazBlue will have online multiplayer, rumored to be using GGPO inspired netcode. Lobbies are an option. Replays are also supported.
Easy Operation: Similar to Capcom vs SNK 2 EO, beginners can use the right-analog stick to perform special moves.
Dual Audio: Japanese and English voices are available for both regions.
Training mode: Pretty much a standard at this point, the console release has it.
New Art: New opening, new backgrounds, and new colors for characters.
PSP Remote Play: The PS3 version of the the game supports remote play. The game is fully playable using the PSP since a second analog stick and extra shoulders buttons are not required.
Achievements/Trophies:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/blazblue/achievements/ (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/blazblue/achievements/)
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The Limited Edition of BlazBlue is available as a FREE pre-order bonus at GameStop, Amazon.com, and GameCrazy. It includes a two-disc original soundtrack that contains 48 tracks by Guilty Gear’s Daisuke Ishiwatari . It also contains a bonus video disc containing basic tutorials, expert advice, character-specific strategies, and more. The strategy sections of the video disc were created with the assistance of players from Dustloop.com and Shoryuken.com.
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GameStop ONLINE-ONLY pre-orders receive a BlazBlue art book
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74492 (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74492)
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74493 (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74493)
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GameCrazy preorders receive a Collector's Edition Mana Energy Potion energy drink.
(The drink itself looks to be the exact same as a normal bottle of the stuff. It looks like only the packaging is different...)
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PS3 - Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 (aka HRAP3)
360 - Hori Fighting Stick EX2
Availability is extremely limited. EXTREMELY LIMITED! So limited that I can't help you find one! Have fun looking! Both sticks are easy enough to obtain without the BlazBlue branding, though.
For question on the quality and modability of these sticks, visit the official NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread. (http://"http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207393").
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360 CONTENT AVAILABLE HERE:
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802415807d5/ (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802415807d5/)
GAMERPICS - 160 MP
Picture Pack 1
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Picture Pack 2
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PREMIUM THEMES - 250 MP
Theme 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FEcokD_p5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FEcokD_p5Q)
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Theme 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8yBcYr2xJo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8yBcYr2xJo)
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PS3 XMB THEMES:
http://ps3files.net/theme/5138 (http://ps3files.net/theme/5138) (Fan Art)
http://ps3files.net/theme/5168 (http://ps3files.net/theme/5168) (Official Art)
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PREVIEWS
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IGN - http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/959/959839p1.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/959/959839p1.html)
1UP - http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3169264&p=10&sec=PREVIEWS (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3169264&p=10&sec=PREVIEWS)
REVIEWS
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Eurogamer - 8/10 (Arcade ver) - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/blazblue-calamity-trigger-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/blazblue-calamity-trigger-review)
Game Informer - 7.75/7.75
Famitsu - 8/8/7/7
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I'm getting it next week unless they changed the date
PSP Remote Play: The PS3 version of the the game supports remote play. The game is fully playable using the PSP since a second analog stick and extra shoulders buttons are not required.
except for the massive input lag that comes with remote play
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Definitely on track for release, ships 6/30. I didn't get the art book from Gamestop.com, so I'm considering canceling and getting it from Amazon instead.
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I'm getting it next week unless they changed the date
PSP Remote Play: The PS3 version of the the game supports remote play. The game is fully playable using the PSP since a second analog stick and extra shoulders buttons are not required.
except for the massive input lag that comes with remote play
Actually the dude from Gamersyde said it was great
He has a vid up but sadly we dont see the hand movements.
This game is definitely on the list since i like Guilty Gear
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PSP remote play? That's pretty damn cool.
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PSP remote play? That's pretty damn cool.
Yeah, I want to give this a try if I can; gotta figure out how to get my PS3 working with remote play first. Maybe I need to take it out of the regular router and plug it into the Airport Express we have in the house? It's a 20gb model...
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those online features sound amazing
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those online features sound amazing
Compared to Street Fighter IV, well...there is NO comparison. BlazBlue fuckin' SPANKS IT ALL OVER. Superior netcode, and damn do I love rooms! So much easier to get a good rotation of players going; I played some player matches with three other U.S. players tonight, and it was buttery smooth except for a second or two in 1-2 matches. Played earlier in the day with Haunts and it was also a great connection. We'll have to see what happens when more people jump on next week though. Also curious how the PS3 version's netcode is going to be.
I can definitely say that if online shit in SF4 bothered you, you will love BB. It's awesome to be able to search for a custom or quick match, have the results come up almost immediately, and then actually be able to join the match on the first try! :o
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I'm getting it next week unless they changed the date
PSP Remote Play: The PS3 version of the the game supports remote play. The game is fully playable using the PSP since a second analog stick and extra shoulders buttons are not required.
except for the massive input lag that comes with remote play
Actually the dude from Gamersyde said it was great
He has a vid up but sadly we dont see the hand movements.
This game is definitely on the list since i like Guilty Gear
I checked out the video, and yeah, it doesn't seem too bad. I only tried Bionic Commando Rearmed and Spyro using remote play and both those were unplayable for me.
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How's English text support? All the story mode shit is in English on the JPN version?
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How's English text support? All the story mode shit is in English on the JPN version?
One hundred percent mayne
You even get the U.S. Teen rating and Aksys Games logo...same disc in both countries.
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Nice copy pasta :lol
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Looks like a shitty Guilty Gear clone but if you say it rocks I'll take your word for it.
Still waiting on the return of the king though, AKA KoF XII.
Except Guilty Gear is amazing so... slime owned
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It's made by the same team so slime ownzord again
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No take-backs
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Looks like a shitty Guilty Gear clone but if you say it rocks I'll take your word for it.
Still waiting on the return of the king though, AKA KoF XII.
I say this the biggest KOF fan here: Keep your expectations low for XII.
'98 UM, however, is supposedly hitting XBLA on July 8th now. Get pumped for THAT if it has good net code!
Looks like a shitty Guilty Gear clone but if you say it rocks I'll take your word for it.
Still waiting on the return of the king though, AKA KoF XII.
Except Guilty Gear is amazing so... slime owned
Guilty Gear is fuck awesome but shitty clones are not. demi ownzorrrred.
You just OWNED PWNED OWENZORRRRREDEDEDEDDED yourself by calling the game a "shitty clone" when it is in fact made by the same people. Did you not read the OP? :duh :dur
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LOL @ slime.
Nonetheless, the presentation and online options sound fantastic.
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Is there anything that makes this different from GG other than the cast of characters? The core mechanics appear to be exactly the same.
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[youtube=560,345]lnem-4t1yTs[/youtube]
GOTY
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You just OWNED PWNED OWENZORRRRREDEDEDEDDED yourself by calling the game a "shitty clone" when it is in fact made by the same people. Did you not read the OP? :duh :dur
What, can't you read. I already said I was taking your word for it after reading the whole OP and your GAF copy/paste! :duh :dur
It seemed like a shittier version of GG. Companies can fuck their own properties and established gameplay mechanics. That was the initial assumption I was going off of. :punch
:lol If you read what I wrote, I praised the fuck out of the game, so why would you think it was shitty based on my words? :violin :gun :gun :gun :gun :gun :gun :gun :dizzy :teehee
;)
Is there anything that makes this different from GG other than the cast of characters? The core mechanics appear to be exactly the same.
The core mechanics are pretty similar but it's still got its differences. There's no roman canceling, the controls are three attacks (A, B, and C) plus different attacks/abilities mapped to the fourth button (D), and there's no fifth dust button-thing. Unless I missed something, I'm not even seeing a (basic) way to launch opponents straight up into the air like GG does. But the characters themselves are what sets the game apart from GG. You'll see similarities, but again, there are some pretty unique characters here. It's basically like Street Fighter III to me, where they ditched the core cast and started over. You can certainly argue that Ragna and Shin are this game's Sol and Ky, but the rest are different enough or just better. I like the designs in this game a lot more, and then with all the polished online options, you just have a great game all-around.
Basically I'd call BlazBlue as different from GG as Hokuto No Ken and Basara X were.
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3659017674_7752422705_b.jpg)
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I just read you can do specials with a flick of a stick. I can appreciate that for the button masher like me. I might just have to get this.
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And Ragna's theme is so hot. I love Daisuke~
[youtube=560,345]-4CNXKTuF8g[/youtube]
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Lyte is there someone the equivilant of Chipp? He's my boy
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lol, hippoedge. destroyed... now let's focus more on me
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Guilty Gear is fuck awesome but shitty clones are not. demi ownzorrrred.
:spin
Lyte is there someone the equivilant of Chipp? He's my boy
There is a ninja (Bang), but I think he's going to be different from Chipp. He's got mostly grab moves. If you want the fastest character, it's probably going to be Taokaka (the cat-girl).
I just read you can do specials with a flick of a stick. I can appreciate that for the button masher like me. I might just have to get this.
Yeah, that's the easy mode. I dunno how that works but I think you can map moves to the stick. I've only played this with the SF4 fight pad. If they actually let you do Iron Taiga's grabs (360 motions like Zangief, but they do a FUCKLOAD of damage...I have seen his super grab take off like 80% life) with the easy setting, I expect to see a lot of scrubs out in full force with him. :lol Good thing you can choose to turn this off in player matches...
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Do you mean Easy difficulty? Or is that a certain control method "easy"
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There's an easy control method, like in Capcom Vs. SNK 2 EO. You just push the right analog stick in different directions to do specials.
Here's a video with Bang.
[youtube=560,345]5TPOUqsZQCY[/youtube]
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Nice to see love for Guilty Gear here. I hope i can check blazblue out soon.
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He seems tight. Doesnt have Chipps speed so I cant just buzz around the room though
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There is Roman Canceling if the GAFertisment is to be believed:
Rapid Cancel - Similar to Guilty Gear's Roman Cancel. Uses 50% of the heat gauge. Lets you interrupt an attack animation to extend your combos and keep the pressure on your opponent.
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Never mind! Is that "50%" two bars off the gauge? If that's the case, it makes sense why I haven't seen anyone do it yet; everyone's using it to store their supers.
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Never mind! Is that "50%" two bars off the gauge? If that's the case, it makes sense why I haven't seen anyone do it yet; everyone's using it to store their supers.
yea
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I still can't get over how smooth the online play is in this game! I just played a session with both U.S. and Japanese players in the same room, and it was 100% LAG-FREE. Fucking amazing.
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Only if you will play with me :wub
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i just found out about the game today and am completely blown away. the amazing 9.4 IGN review + this video http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-montage-blazblue-calamity/46403 sold me on it. it's a 100% buy...i dunno which store gonna get it at yet. amazon the best probably? seems so
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If Gamestop still has the art book available online, I'll get it there. With MVC2 scheduled for late July, I need something to get my fight on.
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The art books are gone. Gamestop.com apparently still has this deal on free overnight shipping on the game though. Check the NeoGAF thread for the code.
I think I might end up maining Iron Tager now. I just jumped from level 12 to level 15 BEATING THAT ASS with him, taking on level 23-26 ranked Japanese players. It was almost sad watching them attempting all these combo strings, and I just kept grabbing 'em and slamming 'em down hard.
Even had my first rage quitter! :lol
EDIT: Correction, make that level 16! :rofl
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Almost forgot, if you needed more proof why BlazBlue is such an awesome fighter, I give you THE BANG INSTALL:
[youtube=560,345]InGy7t8XLqY[/youtube]
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I don't get it.
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Okay, then, I'll pick it up on launch day. No biggie.
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Best Buy has the game, and I have a $10 Reward Zone coupon. I know where I'm getting it. :-*
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The art books are gone. Gamestop.com apparently still has this deal on free overnight shipping on the game though. Check the NeoGAF thread for the code.
I think I might end up maining Iron Tager now. I just jumped from level 12 to level 15 BEATING THAT ASS with him, taking on level 23-26 ranked Japanese players. It was almost sad watching them attempting all these combo strings, and I just kept grabbing 'em and slamming 'em down hard.
Even had my first rage quitter! :lol
EDIT: Correction, make that level 16! :rofl
He's the big grappler guy, right? He seems right up my alley. I'll probably end up maining him too.
I want this but not sure if I can really budget for it. But even though i'm lukewarm on the GG series, I really want to support awesome online implementation. Of course i need to wait until my PS3 gets back from sony...
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Twilight: The Fighting Game
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Amazon Prime: Delivery estimate: July 6, 2009
they better ship the limited edition :maf
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He's the big grappler guy, right? He seems right up my alley. I'll probably end up maining him too.
I want this but not sure if I can really budget for it. But even though i'm lukewarm on the GG series, I really want to support awesome online implementation. Of course i need to wait until my PS3 gets back from sony...
Yeah, he's the game's "Zangief." I saw Oichi posted about him, but I am still kicking the shit out higher-ranked players and am enjoying using Tager, so I'm sticking with him for now. It makes me wonder if the console version has been changed a bit from the arcade? I'm already up to level 18 now. I played against a level 43 player and he barely beat me. Barely. I was just :lol :lol :lol the whole time. I wish I could upload the replays I've saved from these matches!
Tager's fun because he's got a bit more in his arsenal beyond the typical 'Gief-clone stuff. His moves are magnetism-based, so some of them have a vacuum-like effect and draw in the opponent. He has a projectile that is very fast-moving and will bring your opponent towards you if it hits them, but it has to be charged up; the charge bar for this is automatic and fills up very slowly, but you can do a move that charges it faster, and from what I've read on Dustloop, can also stop certain high-hitting special attacks! He also has a two-hit smash (first hit is a forward strike, then the follow-up is an overhead), an air grab (which while not that effective as an anti-air, is quite useful in combos), and while he can't dash, hitting down and D makes him do a FAST football-like tackle-rush. You can often use this move as a follow-up after knocking down opponents. I've been able to take out Arakune and Rachel users no problem, and I'm a complete and total "n00b" at this game. But I know in high-level it's a completely different story.
I'm pretty lukewarm to GG as well, BTW. This game is better IMO; I like the roster more.
Amazon Prime: Delivery estimate: July 6, 2009
they better ship the limited edition :maf
The Limited Edition is the only version being released next week. The regular version doesn't come out until the end of the month, and since the prices are the same, it's a no-brainer on which one to get!
With that Gamestop promo code, you can get the game overnight shipped for cheaper than what Amazon offers, BTW. No point in getting it from them.
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I already paid for Amazon Prime, that's my reason.
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SF4 sux
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I already paid for Amazon Prime, that's my reason.
Looks like I'm going Amazon too-- Gamestop.com says the game is back-ordered. :o
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Got a call from Gamestop saying it's in tomorrow. I was expecting wednesday, but I'm not complaining.
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Got a call from Gamestop saying it's in tomorrow. I was expecting wednesday, but I'm not complaining.
Yeah, a day early! I plan on hitting the mall around noon, and if they have any extras for sale, I'll pick it up locally, otherwise it's Amazon. Fuck Gamestop.com; the system won't even let me cancel the order and I had to e-mail them instead. What is the point of adding a cancel option if it never works? :-\
EDIT: NeoGAF QUICK to respond-- "backordered" apparently means "ready to ship" according to Gamestop. I called them and they verified this.
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Quick thoughts on the American PS3 version after having been playing the Japanese 360 version since last Wednesday:
-Nice packaging! Full color manual, LE box is thin and houses the two blu-ray disc cases nicely.
-Is there no install option on PS3? Please tell me I missed this; the load times aren't really long, but are noticeably longer compared to the (full-installed) 360 version. :/
-Did an online match and it was fairly laggy; I have not had a match like this on 360. This is disappointing, and combined with the pre-fight load times, it felt longer than usual compared to the 360 version. Hopefully the guy I played just had a crappy connection and/or was downloading or something. EDIT: The second match started out great and then got really bad in the second round, but I think the guy was "cheating" and making lag happen since it only got laggy when I was on the offensive. I won anyway. :lol
-The stock PS3 controller works perfectly with this game. Even with the Mad Catz 360 fight pad, I sometimes have problems getting Iron Tager's 360s out. Did not have any problems on PS3!
-The ranked match I played did not have blind character select, but 360 does. Confusing! :lol
-There are less people playing compared to the 360 version.
EDIT 2: Every online match I've done has been laggy. I wonder if they haven't patched the PS3 version? (360 got a patch last week; before that the game was laggy too according to early reports)
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hey lyte edge im ridin ur dick pretty hard in the gaf thread lol
anyway, yeah i love the game...i like it much better than sf4. the slower pacing is great and there's lots more flashy moves and stuff
also, the characters play so differently that it's like you have to learn a totally new fighting style for each char. this is a big contrast to sf4's clones. it makes the gameplay feel so unique and varied
looks like MK vs. DC is about to get ousted from its throne
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Are you Kbear? :lol
MK Vs. DC? :yuck Actually I thought that game was kinda fun, best MK in like...ever. I want to pick it up again at some point but not until it's in the bargain bins.
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yea
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A couple of importers are saying they got prompted for a patch download (that added in the blind select and improved online) for PS3 too! This is VERY good news!
EDIT: Aksys game guy confirms it's coming.
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why? nobody plays ps3. who cares.
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why? nobody plays ps3. who cares.
Hey now, we got Chow Chow, Akala, Distant, and MoxManiac on here!
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I'm on ps3 too :x
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I stand by what I said
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I'm buying this on PS3 too; I want to play the game with the Saturn controller. The load times difference sucks, though.
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why? nobody plays ps3. who cares.
Hey now, we got Chow Chow, Akala, Distant, and MoxManiac on here!
and they can all afford 360s
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I picked it up on PS3. It's a shame to hear about the loading thing, but whatever.
I'm kinda stuck in a cycle with fighting games. I have a bunch of controllers (VSHG, Mad Catz pad, saturn pad) for my PS3, so I usually get them on PS3. The only time it was really bad was Virtua Fighter 5 since I never got to try the online.
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I know there's more controller options on PS3, but man is online play ever better on Live in general compared to PS3. I double dip on all these fighters and they play smoother/are always more populated on XBox 360 every time.
I'm buying this on PS3 too; I want to play the game with the Saturn controller. The load times difference sucks, though.
The load times are pretty quick already, but they are quicker when installed on 360 is all. If you've ever played one of the PSP Guilty Gear games off of a memory stick, the difference is about like that.
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holy fuck this game is a looker
<3 jin <3
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oh man, the 360 vs. ps3 preorder situation at the redmond gamestop was hilarious. they had a stack of 30 360 orders, and only 4 ps3 ones. (i was one of the ps3 ones since i, as the pre-eminent forum ps3 fanboy, own 2 ps3 machines and a ps3 hori fight stick.)
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less competition means a more balanced online community RAWR
:'(
The load times are pretty quick already, but they are quicker when installed on 360 is all. If you've ever played one of the PSP Guilty Gear games off of a memory stick, the difference is about like that.
How are the guilty gear games on PSP? one of them is only $6 on PSN
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the gg psp games are fuck awesome ports
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I'm so glad I didn't get the art book. I saw a picture on gaf and the cover is same picture on the back of the manual, only bigger and not facing away from people.
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I definitely want to pick this up, but I have to be a little bit of a miser at the moment - I was unaware that it was a full priced game. I'll wait until a used copy or two come floating around or I can pick it up online for cheaper.
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Fighters get played for about a week in the Mantra household, and then never get touched again. I can't get any of my friends to play them with me either, and online play results in me losing 99% of the time, which is very discouraging.
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Sell me your copy next week, distantmantra!
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I think I'm locked into getting fighters on PS3 now. :'(
Hopefully picking this up today, maybe tomorrow.
Think I will also grab Red Faction, it's been too long since I have really bought anything.
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Sell me your copy next week, distantmantra!
I'm not buying it. Not anytime soon, at least.
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this pisses into sf4's mouf
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Woo, GameCrazy Store Director who is a friend of mine says he might get a few copies and will discount it for me.
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I got it and didn't realize until I got home that yeah...wtf happened to the artbook? I ordered when it went up on the online store and it said it came with an artbook and had it shipped to the local gamestop where I picked it up sans artbook today.
Isn't that like false advertising?
Are there any scans of the book btw so I can see what I missed? I don't really care much since I'd just look at it once and then never touch it again, but I'd like to see the artwork.
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And just to fuel the e-wars, they had about 20 PS3 LEs and 10 PS3 non-LEs. Didn't see how many X360 versions cause they weren't on display or were sold out already.
Note: I live in a Sony part of town.
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i thought the le's weren't out until the middle of next month? I CALL SHENANIGANZ.
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???
That's what Lyte got too.
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ONLY NERDS BUY LE
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I thought the first run was all LE. :wtf
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le is the same price
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Yeah, the first run are ALL limited editions, and they are the same price as the regular editions are going to be.
Maybe those Gamestop employees gutted the LEs? -_- And I think the artbook was online-purchased -and shipped- only.
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this game looks incredible, I just wish I read up on how to play before starting.
the one weird thing is that the game starts with the display over stretched (at least when 720p) and you need to go to B to make the full image appear.
what is astral heat? from the manual it seems like it's kinda like the instant kill move from GGX2, but a bit more limited, right?
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This game plays weird as hell. Will definitely need to practice a bit before going online.
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this game looks incredible, I just wish I read up on how to play before starting.
the one weird thing is that the game starts with the display over stretched (at least when 720p) and you need to go to B to make the full image appear.
what is astral heat? from the manual it seems like it's kinda like the instant kill move from GGX2, but a bit more limited, right?
basically but its limits makes it less than a "instant kill" though imo
Insta-kill move. Uses 100% of the heat gauge. The move can only be used when the opponent is at <20% health on the last round of the match.
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How the heck do you get through a minion/curse spamming Arakune? I had one guy in my room who choose only Arakune, inflict curse, sit back and toss minions and ground tentacles non-stop. Everyone in the room couldn't get through the swarm without getting constantly juggled.
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Amazon: Items not yet shipped.
smh
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I got it and didn't realize until I got home that yeah...wtf happened to the artbook? I ordered when it went up on the online store and it said it came with an artbook and had it shipped to the local gamestop where I picked it up sans artbook today.
Isn't that like false advertising?
Are there any scans of the book btw so I can see what I missed? I don't really care much since I'd just look at it once and then never touch it again, but I'd like to see the artwork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8JTLmcaqKk
heres an unboxing with the artbook
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Ok, so I played all night for like 5+ hours straight with my fighting game friend and the game is good times. I feel pretty comfortable with my witch girl trap game. She's a lot of fun with the wind control, the wands, the frog, the pumpkin bat and her great super.
Then I tried using Sol Badguy...err Ragnorak. I can do ok with him against some characters, but the problem is my friend has chosen Noel and the Staff girl as his mains and Noel is giving me serioussss problems with Rag.
-How do you fight someone who spams the shadow clone combo with Noel? She's always mixing highs and lows and I never know what part she'll do next because of the branching in the combo. So blocking works for a little and then I get hit by a mix up and the rest of the combo damages me. If I'm using a projectile character I can just get away and do that, but with a character like Ragnorak who has no projectiles I have no idea what to do. If I try using ANY of his charge attacks her combo will beat them. Noel's custom combo thingy also does GOOD DAMAGE and she can link to her supers which are all really good and have almost no drawbacks because she can do them from a distance and then recover before you can dash over there if you were blocking them.
I search youtube and the first Noel / Rag video I see is pretty much what I'm experiencing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGk7cSKK1iE&feature=related
See how at the end of the first round when she launches into the shadow combo Rag gets totally fuckkkkkked? That is me. And unlike the Noel in that video who only does the shadow combo occasional (and usually wins with it), my friend spams it ALL ROUND LONG.
-Also another problem I have with Rag is his only NORMAL super the scissor thing is a 2 part super and the command list doesn't say HOW TO DO THE 2ND PART. I just mash and sometimes he does it; sometimes he just stands there and it ends. Considering the first part does almost no damage and his other supers require 100% super meter, this means I effectively have no supers to depend on 100% of the time and that is hurting my Rag game.
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Damn that vid got my vagina moist. I might have to go run out for this tomorrow...
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Are you guys using the push-block (barrier) system? You need to make heavy use of it to keep combo "spammers" at bay.
I can't give you much advice since I'm very much a n00b myself at this game, Bebpo, and it all depends on the character you use. If I'm using Tager, I generally take a more plodding, patient stance and wait for an opening to do any damage. Half my life might be gone before I land the first hit, but once I get close enough, the damage is going to be done. Expect to take some combo strings with nothing you can really do about it. And whatever you do, DO NOT BURST unless you're down to no life remaining! You're going to not only lose your barrier, but also take a shitload more damage.
I was playing a match today against a combo-heavy Jin user. I got him easily the first round, but he came back and beat me down the second. Then he made the HUGE mistake of bursting early in the final round, and I took advantage of this by hitting Tager's 720 super grab on him-- He probably had about 60% of his life left, but because he bursted, that super killed him and ended the round.
When I use more nimble characters, I'm generally just all over the place at all times. This isn't Street Fighter; take advantage of being able to super-jump, double (or triple!) jump, air dashing, and all that good stuff. You're also going to need to find out which normals or specials work the best as anti-airs and stop certain attacks. I found out that Litchi's "dragon punch" staff throw is the best one in the game-- it stops pretty much ANYTHING, and has an extra hit when the staff comes back down. Arakunes, Ragnas, Jins, Tagers...doesn't matter, you jump in at me with any attack, YOU are getting hit in the face with the staff!
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the barrier shield doesn't seem to push when I use it. It just makes me take less chip damage so I use it when I can. The alpha counter type things push but those cost super meter :\
And I don't really see the point in ever bursting unless it's like the last 5 seconds of a round and you are blocking and want to get the opponent out of your face.
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the barrier shield doesn't seem to push when I use it. It just makes me take less chip damage so I use it when I can. The alpha counter type things push but those cost super meter :\
No, the barrier does push. It will slowly keep pushing your opponent back when they are comboing you, giving you an opportunity to counter!
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With what? It gives maybe a few cm of space and it's not like your opponent stops rushing you. Throwing out jabs or attacks has a risk of losing to their spamming and then you are combo'd. Jumping is risky and if you get hit in the legs you are combo'd.
When we were playing last night, we found the corners to be VERY DEADLY in this game with people being corner trapped and losing 30-50% of their life before escaping.
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I bought it.
Fuck you, lyte edge.
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I am so bad at this game that I'm getting this close to giving up on online gaming completely. Today I've had like 1 win and 20 losses with Ragna. Everyone picks Noel/Taokaka/Jin who are FAST and they decimate my Ragna who is sloooooow. You can only take so much getting juggled in 11 hit air combos per day >_<
It also doesn't help that almost every match is laggy. Where the fuck is the pattttttch.
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I am so bad at this game that I'm getting this close to giving up on online gaming completely. Today I've had like 1 win and 20 losses with Ragna. Everyone picks Noel/Taokaka/Jin who are FAST and they decimate my Ragna who is sloooooow. You can only take so much getting juggled in 11 hit air combos per day >_<
It also doesn't help that almost every match is laggy. Where the fuck is the pattttttch.
What makes you even more at a disadvantage is that Ragna's life is the second lowest in the game (his drive attacks can alleviate that though somewhat).
I hear the patch just came out so check it out.
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some patch just came out. I'm trying the remote play and it had to download patch 1.01 or something.
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i just got the patch for ps3
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well, remote play is unplayable
online matches seem fine
Bang sucks so much but his awesome transform super makes me keep playing as him
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some patch just came out. I'm trying the remote play and it had to download patch 1.01 or something.
that should be the lag fixing patch.
i just got the patch for ps3
thoughts?
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looks like everyone got this for PS3! :hyper
add me nukkas PSN = akalapen
Won't really get to play till this weekend (in the middle of a the monstrous purchase), but will be down for some player matches! Eventually!
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I am so bad at this game that I'm getting this close to giving up on online gaming completely. Today I've had like 1 win and 20 losses with Ragna. Everyone picks Noel/Taokaka/Jin who are FAST and they decimate my Ragna who is sloooooow. You can only take so much getting juggled in 11 hit air combos per day >_<
It also doesn't help that almost every match is laggy. Where the fuck is the pattttttch.
What makes you even more at a disadvantage is that Ragna's life is the second lowest in the game (his drive attacks can alleviate that though somewhat).
I hear the patch just came out so check it out.
Yeaaaaaaah. See I kind of like Ragna because no one is using him online and he's sort of Sol Badguy. But he just seems really low-tier for beginner play.
Pros:
-Drive attack has good range and can combo into his dragon punch. Gives a tiny bit of life back
-Moves do ok damage
Cons:
-His moves take a while to come out
-His moves sometimes OVER shoot the range and miss people too close
-His only NORMAL SUPER is:
A. Harder to pull off consistently on a ps3 d-pad than almost any other character (everyone else just has QCFx2)
B. Is totalllllly screwed if the opponent blocks the first part since they will then counter/throw you
-His combos are decently tough. I don't know how to pull off most of them. I just do A-B-C-QCB+P-QCB+D and various Drive attacks to Dragon Punch.
I guess I just need to get better with him.
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Patch worked. Game craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy lags in the 3d intro but when the round starts there's no lag.
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yeah, playing against real people is way different than the computer. In the few rounds I've played I got dominated. It doesn't help that I don't know all the moves and just spammed basic moves in story mode.
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yeah, playing against real people is way different than the computer. In the few rounds I've played I got dominated. It doesn't help that I don't know all the moves and just spammed basic moves in story mode.
Good games tonight. While I'm a newbie myself so I'd take it with a grain of salt, I'd recommend not using your burst until you have ~15% of your life left and are getting combo'd and about to die. I see a lot of people online bursting early in the match and it doesn't make any sense to me since it just gets you free for the current combo and then you take like 2x damage the rest of the round. You'd take overall less damage if you just ate the combo. Otherwise especially with Bang it seems like it's best to just stay in your opponents face and use the drive block/counter move a lot and then do combos.
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I kinda do it by habit. Playing arcade and story mode, I realized that it was bad to do it early, but yeah, it just happens.
I think I'm gonna stick with a few characters instead of learning them all. Noel seems pretty good and I think I can end up playing good as her. I'm bad with Bang and his style of play is totally not what I like, but he has the awesome transform special. Taokaka seems good too.
And that V-12 character definitely seems like it can get annoying during online matches. I could hardly get near.
The DLC is both lame and kinda cool. Won't buy, but
(http://www.blazblue.jp/images/topics/color3.jpg)
Strider colors for Bang and Gundam rx-78-2 colors for V-12
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Taokaka is fun but if you don't know how to play her (ie, me) you do very.little.damage even when you get a bunch of hits in. I don't really even understand her baseball throw move since it leaves you open and even when they hit they do joke damage ???
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Oh and V-12's weak point is that her drive swords start like 3-4 feet from her and shoot out. So if you are within 3-4 feet of her they won't touch you. Soooo you just gotta stick close to her. Just like with Rachel you gotta be in her face.
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taokaka is supposed to be an endless string of sustained pain through chained drives/combos and wall pins with the slashy slashy, near as i can tell
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Awesome, the PS3 patch fixes all the bullshit online issues and seems to have put it on par with the 360 version's net play! :D Downloaded it, got on, beat down a level 23 Ragna player with my level 8 (now 9!) Tager. I'm undefeated on PSN...won't last for long but it's fun while it lasts! :lol
Bebpo, have you tried out everybody yet? Could just be that Ragna isn't for you.
taokaka is supposed to be an endless string of sustained pain through chained drives/combos and wall pins with the slashy slashy, near as i can tell
Yup. When I use Taokaka, I'm all over the fucking place. Get in close and POKE POKE POKE with croucing A jabs, confusing the fuck out of 'em with overhead forward+B, do some bread n' butter ground combos and finish them off with qcf+AAAAAAAAAA or qcF+CCCCCCCC when you are able. Stop any anti-air tactics with qcf+BBBBBBBBB when airborne. I only use her projectile when I'm all the way across the screen and someone is trying to jump in at me. I don't spam her D dash-ins too much, but they are quite useful at getting close or escape quickly.
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I just beat a level 30 Litchi user and ranked up to level 12 in one match! :rofl
:bow Iron Tager :bow2
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Tager seems pretty limited, though.
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Tager seems pretty limited, though.
He's just not a huge combo-fiend is all. The trick is getting around his mobility limitations, getting up close, and PWNING. If you just try to spam 360 grabs all day, you're gonna get killed though. I enjoy using fast n' all-over-the-place Litchi and Taokaka, but nothing beats destroying fools with two or three well-placed attacks. If you are the patient type, Tager rocks.
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So the characters in this game basically strive on being pure rushdown and/or pure zoning?
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you're punished for turtling -- if you defend for too long, you get NEGATIVE WARNING and red streaks appear on your character and you take double damage
which is awesome, turtling is for looooooosers
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maf sez: REEZPEKT CARL, HOMOS
(http://www.theicecave.org/damage_control/multimedia/blazblue_carl.jpg)
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you're punished for turtling -- if you defend for too long, you get NEGATIVE WARNING and red streaks appear on your character and you take double damage
which is awesome, turtling is for looooooosers
wait there is a damage penalty for turtling now. Ouch
In GG you normally lost all of the tension you built in the bar and it takes a longer time to refill.
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maf sez: REEZPEKT CARL, HOMOS
[img]http://www.theicecave.org/damage_control/multimedia/blazblue_carl.jpg[
Him and the pole girl seem interest but too complicated because you need to manage two things in the stage.
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amazon shipped mine.
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gametrailers gave it a 9.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-blazblue-calamity/52355?type=flv
Not bad
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you're punished for turtling -- if you defend for too long, you get NEGATIVE WARNING and red streaks appear on your character and you take double damage
which is awesome, turtling is for looooooosers
<3 <3 <3 <3
It's great; instead of turtles, it seems to be distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who barrier burst in the beginning of the round and then rush at you. Makes it so much easier to win, lol.
I had my first flowchart Taokaka "spammer" tonight. He beat my Litchi the first match (PS3 version) but there was some slight input lag on my end (wife was watching streaming videos). So I just switched to Tager the next match and PWNED the shit out of him. He just kept rushing in and doing tons of crouching AAAAAAAAAAAAAA, so I'd just push-block him away and either hit him with the overhead sledge or 360 him to death. Quite satisfying.
Him and the pole girl seem interest but too complicated because you need to manage two things in the stage.
This is what I thought in the beginning too, but it's not hard to manage what's going on at all. It really just means you get more options, and it's always fun as hell sandwiching opponents between Carl and his Robot or Litchi and her pole (during a super). I've come back and won from that particular Litchi super; you can really pile on the hurt if it's successful.
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So this time around, do we have enough players to have a tournament on PS3? Seems there's less 360 BB Bores here now!
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Someone buy me a copy and I'm in.
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Fuck you guys for talking about this game so much. I'm gonna try to pick it up next week. :'(
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So this time around, do we have enough players to have a tournament on PS3? Seems there's less 360 BB Bores here now!
lol PS3. This forum has truly gone to shit. :lol
I'm down for a tourney in a week or two!
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That girl with the puppet is insane if you know how to use her. I've seen some people at the arcade do some crazy shit with juggling and traps.
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I played my sister last night and killed her with Tager in like, four moves. :lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q9nAYXKsO8
:lol
thats so fucked up. MAF's warning is noted.
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Someone said they added a vocal theme for noel in the home version. Anyone know how to get it to play?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q9nAYXKsO8
:lol
thats so fucked up. MAF's warning is noted.
Good thing I'll disconnect and flag any distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who does that corner BS
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demi is such a scrub.
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The PSN Tager streak CONTINUES with a new record: I kicked the shit out of a level 46 player and jumped to level 18. :lol This shit's getting pathetically easy; please someone put me in my place and beat me already.
EDIT: I jinxed myself! :lol A V-13 player got me, but it was close. I am still laughing at how easy it has been killing fools with Tager though.
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I would take you up on that challenge but this game has been kicking the crap out of me. I'm usually pretty adept at fighting games but my losing streak is so bad it's embarassing. I have the next few days off so I'll be putting some time to better myself at this game.
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Can we make a list of who has this on each console for some online hawtness? I bought it for PS3, and I'm ch1nchilla on PSN.
Enjoying it a lot, been playing as Jin since his move set is the exact same as Ryu's. :D IT LOOKS SO GOOD.
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I'm playing player matches on PSN tonight.
Man, it is so much easier getting a room going on XBL than PSN. :-\
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I'm playing player matches on PSN tonight.
Man, it is so much easier getting a room going on XBL than PSN. :-\
I've just been playing ranked because I don't have much of a personal stake on how well I do, so I can say that the ranked matchmaking is infinitely better in BlazBlue than what it's been with SF4. Super easy finding an opponent, etc., since the game just matches you right up. It's just more convenient, even if sometimes it will match up my lvl 6 bitch ass with a lvl 26er.
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It's only a bitch because of retardo PSN making you go into invite mode and then only friends can get invitations. Much easier and more convenient on 360.
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It's only a bitch because of retardo PSN making you go into invite mode and then only friends can get invitations. Much easier and more convenient on 360.
I bought the wrong version, then, it seems. :-\ I just wanted to get some use out of my PS3 for once!
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It's only a bitch because of retardo PSN making you go into invite mode and then only friends can get invitations. Much easier and more convenient on 360.
I bought the wrong version, then, it seems. :-\ I just wanted to get some use out of my PS3 for once!
Well it does seem that anyone can send a friend invite on PSN. On 360 ONLY the host can invite people into games.
It's awesome on both systems, but the 360 version is better by a little bit. Also it's nice being able to TALK to people IN GAME WITH A MIC on 360. :lol
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The PSN Tager streak CONTINUES with a new record: I kicked the shit out of a level 46 player and jumped to level 18. :lol This shit's getting pathetically easy; please someone put me in my place and beat me already.
EDIT: I jinxed myself! :lol A V-13 player got me, but it was close. I am still laughing at how easy it has been killing fools with Tager though.
Hook me up with some TAGER strats. I'm having a difficult time...i just button mash and do the torpedo and sledge and occasionally win thanks to how much damage his normal attacks do. The 360 for the piledriver is just a pain in the ass to pull off consistently...it's a bit unforgiving
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Just got the game on 360.
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my brief impressions from the 360 version:
- amazing graphics, the 2d sprites mesh well together with the 3d backgrounds and they don't look distracting unlike KOF12 (from what i saw from the old videos anyway).
- monster of a netcode! played two matches with total strangers via quick match and no lag whatsoever once the fight started then went ahead and made a fucking lobby (READ THAT CAPCOM? A FUCKING LOBBY!) with some pals and no lag as well.
- game is very, very easy for the casuals and at the same time made for hardcore combo distinguished effete fellows that love to keep you hanging up in the air doing jackshit and some characters can be really broken (i kept button mashing Noel and landed some awful combos with two fucking ultras or whatever they call them with absolutely no effort at all).
- presentation is very nice, lots of options here and there but the story mode is...i dunno, i prefer SF4 quick story mode instead of the animu visual novel like faggotry here but maybe this will change when i play with more characters and not just Ragna.
- some characters designs are questionable, for example Ragna is a ripoff of Allen Walker from D.Gray-man not that D.Gray-man designs are original or anything but still, also Ragna and Jin are similar to Sol and Ky which makes me wonder why they axed Guilty Gear and made this, they could have shuffled some characters and kept the same brand.
and oh, one last thing that made me confused, what's with graphics scale set to type A? some of the screen went out of the tv borders when it was set to that (it was the default option) changed it to style B and all is good, my TV is Samsung series 6 LCD 1080p if it matters.
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They started over because Sega/Sammy now owns the Guilty Gear IP, not Arc System Works. There is no story mode in SF4, by the way. If you want the same "quick" experience, play the arcade mode. ;)
Did the color packs ever hit PSN? There's three of them on 360 for 160 points each (or all three for 400 points), and they use some interesting schemes. You can make Litchi look like Morrigan, Bang look like Strider, and Jin look like KY. :lol
Hook me up with some TAGER strats. I'm having a difficult time...i just button mash and do the torpedo and sledge and occasionally win thanks to how much damage his normal attacks do. The 360 for the piledriver is just a pain in the ass to pull off consistently...it's a bit unforgiving
www.dustloop.com is your friend!
If you can't do the 360 and 720 motions consistently, you may not want to use Iron Tager. You need to be able to bust those out at the right times. Basic tips are that you can do his 360 off of a backdash, his projectile will go through other projectiles, MAGNETIZE THE SHIT OUT OF FOOLS so you can grab them from farther away, and remember that Tager's sledge will also stop a lot of projectile spam stuff. Got an Arakune player who keeps trying to curse you with dem bees? Do Tager's B Sledge (and qcf A follow up); it will stop him like every single time. You can do Tager's spinning lariat super off his projectile too, BTW.
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So GG is basically dead? oh well, BB is more casual friendly thus better. :rock
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So GG is basically dead? oh well, BB is more casual friendly thus better. :rock
I want to say yes, but have no idea really. I thought I read somewhere that Guilty Gear 2 on 360 was supposed to be the last game in the series, but then why would Sega even bother getting the right?
GGXX Accent Core is still in the top 10 most popular arcade list though. BlazBlue is #3 and GGXX AC is #6 currently.
And yeah, BB is so much easier to get into than GG ever was. I think all of Arc's non-GG games are like this, but unlike Hokuto No Ken and Basara X, BB's character balance is far better and the game system isn't so fucked up.
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dunno, maybe they want the right for porting and milking.
i could see them outsourcing it to dimps or something in the future and if they do, they better make it all casualflashyfaggy.
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you're punished for turtling -- if you defend for too long, you get NEGATIVE WARNING and red streaks appear on your character and you take double damage
which is awesome, turtling is for looooooosers
This is also carried over from Guilty Gear, iirc, although lockdown can get so crazy in that game that "turtling" isn't quite the right word for it.
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Also, this shit is tough to play on stick. I keep fucking up air-dashing.
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i bought this and realized i have no desire to learn a complicated-ass asw fighter
will probably just sell it and go back to sf4
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is it the 360 version, i will pay you $25 for it
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i bought this and realized i have no desire to learn a complicated-ass asw fighter
will probably just sell it and go back to sf4
This game is easier to get into than SF4!
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Tager is fun! :o
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i bought this and realized i have no desire to learn a complicated-ass asw fighter
will probably just sell it and go back to sf4
What's an asw fighter?
Edit: nvm, just the developer name
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Tager is fun! :o
You got your PS3 back? :hyper
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goddammit, i hate Ragna's Distortion Finishes, i suck at doing his first one so my only option is the other one which requires bloodsomething activated.
fucking story mode.
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100% done with Ragna.
now for Jin.
i dunno if i really suck at doing half circles or it's SF4 madcatz fault, i need to try it with 360 analog sometime.
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What's the key to getting 100 percent completions on the story mode? Is it just finishing your opponents with DF?
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What's the key to getting 100 percent completions on the story mode? Is it just finishing your opponents with DF?
yo have to make certain choices and also wins and losses count.
link that tells you how to get them
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6067
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here i was trying to do every move with the dpad when the game lets you set all specials with just a fucking button.
360 controller is perfect for this game, the right analog really comes in handy.
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here i was trying to do every move with the dpad when the game lets you set all specials with just a fucking button.
360 controller is perfect for this game, the right analog really comes in handy.
You can't use easy specials in ranked matches and it can be disabled in player matches online.
Do the moves the right way!
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oh? that's cool.
i just suck at doing half circles + right/left with madcatz dpad, no problem with 360 analog.
if i can master it with the dpad i would love this game even more, sadly i am such a distinguished mentally-challenged casual fighting cigarillo.
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The control is not as loose as SF4's, just takes some getting used to. I can use the Mad Catz pad just fine with the game. Actually I was even okay using a wired 360 controller! :o
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this is my problem, i just suck.
but yeah, game is fine with 360 controller unlike SF4.
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Tager is fun! :o
You got your PS3 back? :hyper
yes
TAGER BUSTTTTAAAAAAA
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Level 30 :rock
and I am in love with Nu style, fucking telporting madness.
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Level 30 :rock
and I am in love with Nu style, fucking telporting madness.
What exactly do levels give you?
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achievements! duh
there is one for level 10 and another for 30.
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Played for a bit at Otakon and I had absolutely no idea what was going on... brother is home for the weekend playing the game now. It looks great, at the very least.
Took this picture while there too:
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Bought this from Willco and started playing Saturday night. I've been mainly using Noel so far because she's so easy and fun, but I wanna switch to Bang now that I've witnessed his superhero special. :lol
I like Rachel too, but I think it will take a while to learn her.
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LOL you were the one who bought it from Willco?
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Anyone still playing this game? I'm finally over the hump and found a main to focus on. Would love to get some player matches in.
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LOL you were the one who bought it from Willco?
Yep. I was planning on buying it new sometime that week, until I saw his thread.
Anyone still playing this game? I'm finally over the hump and found a main to focus on. Would love to get some player matches in.
I don't remember if I have your gamertag.
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rattlemonster
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I'm always up for matches, guys. We should get a Bore Room going.
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I'm always up for matches, guys. We should get a Bore Room going.
now?
You guys have it for the 360, right?
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Yes. Lyte should have it for 360 as well.
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Bought this from Willco and started playing Saturday night. I've been mainly using Noel so far because she's so easy and fun, but I wanna switch to Bang now that I've witnessed his superhero special. :lol
I like Rachel too, but I think it will take a while to learn her.
I used Rachel the few times I played and ended up kicking my brother's ass (he actually owns the game, I have only played it maybe 3 times). She's cool, lol.
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Okay, I'm on now. Don't expect much from me.
I used Rachel the few times I played and ended up kicking my brother's ass (he actually owns the game, I have only played it maybe 3 times). She's cool, lol.
I played through arcade mode earlier with Rachel. Nu was kicking my ass, but I got much better with her because of it. :lol
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NIIIIIIIIIIIII-SAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
JIN KISAMAAAAAAAAAA!
NIIIIIIIIIIIII-SAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
JIN KISAMAAAAAAAAAA!
NIIIIIIIIIIIII-SAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
JIN KISAMAAAAAAAAAA!
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I can't right now guys. :( I hopped on for the tourney match with Bacchus in SF4, but I have fuckin' schoolwork to do. :'( :'( :'(
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I sent you a friend's request on XBL, Lyte. Let's see if we could set up a room this week. I'm a night owl, so I'm online from 1am to 3am eastern.
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I sent you a friend's request on XBL, Lyte. Let's see if we could set up a room this week. I'm a night owl, so I'm online from 1am to 3am eastern.
Me too, and I'm on the east coast as well! When it comes to fighters, I'm always up for playing!
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I see you online Rman. Let me know if you wanna play.
People online can be such bitches sometimes. I was fighting a Taokaka player with my Rachel and he beat me like 20-1. After getting my ass kicked nonstop, I finally figured him out and learned a few basic combos with Rachel. I beat him 4 matches straight and even got an Astral Heat finish once (I laughed like a maniac when it happened and saved the match :lol), so the bitch kicked me. SMH :maf
I can't use Bang online yet. I tried and realized that I didn't even know what his basic attacks did...
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Good games Rman. Your Haku-men pissed off my sore loser friend. :lol
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Haku-men is actually near the bottom tier, but I have fun with him.
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Well I had my fun with Bang, but it's time to go back to Rachel. I'm not getting much better with him. I've never been good with crazy fast and long ass combo strings in fighting games, but I had to try him after seeing Bang Install for the first time. I'm gonna stick with Rachel and Hakumen for a while and see if I do better.
I'd try Tager too, but I'm not good with 360 and 720 motions.
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New screenshots of the first character, Tsubaki, revealed for the BB upgrade. It's hitting arcades first, but this is presumably also the version Europe (and of course, Japan too) will be getting. The returning characters will all be getting new moves and tweaks! Hope they balance the fuck out of the game and tone down Arakune, Rachel, and V-13...
(http://japan.gamespot.com/i/product/10439228/b001.jpg)
(http://japan.gamespot.com/i/product/10439228/b004.jpg)
(http://japan.gamespot.com/i/product/10439228/b003.jpg)
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loved the game at first but after getting 1000 i just don't feel it anymore, sf4 is enough for my fightan needs this gen.
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I pretty much took a month-long break from playing the game, and have recently been going back to it again. I agree that SF4 is the better game, but I still like BB plenty.
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From Versus City:
The new issue of Arcadia will be out in two days, have you preordered yours yet? It does come with the SF4/VF5R SBO DVD, but it also comes with the announcement of a new character for Blazblue, who players should be familiar with! Arcadia magazine comes out on the 30th so expect some more news then! Hazama’s Drive is called Ouroboros, and allows him to summons chains which can hang in the air, be thrown at opponents, or be used for movement by swinging from an axis. He apparently will be a speed/rushdown style character.
(http://www.versuscity.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hazama0.jpg)
(http://www.versuscity.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hazama1.jpg)
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was always wondering why he ain't a playable character.
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Who is he? I never finished up the story mode.
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the real villain that you don't fight.
he's basically Gin from Bleach just with green hair, Viz style total.
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:lol
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OMFG! Hakumen vs. Nu is such an unfair matchup! I hate that bitch! :maf
At least I'm a bit better with Hakumen now. I have way more control with him than anyone else in this game.