THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on July 06, 2009, 01:26:24 PM
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http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/05/jennifers-body-red-band-movie-trailer/
I demand a full Willco Review of this trailer, as he is our resident horror aficionado and Cody biographer
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Looks worse than Juno, except for the lesbianism.
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Here's how you can tell it's going to be bad - the fucking soundtrack is listed ahead of the actual credits. :lol
I pretty much hate Diablo Cody and her penchant for pretentious, non-realistic teenage dialogue is once again on display here. The only thing that might salvage this is Adam Brody, but considering he is credit last, he probably dies in ten minutes.
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From one of the comments, describing Diablo Cody:
"... the dialogue was forced and at times, very self indulgent, like Tarantino if he was 5x more annoying and a chick..."
:lol
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My sister is in high school and is getting a free ride to an Ivy League school - and she doesn't even talk like that.
I didn't really see anything from the trailer that indicated Adam Brody is an antagonist.
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As much as I hated hated hated Juno, I thought this looked pretty fun. Who cares if the dialogue is "unrealistic"? Unlike Juno, this film clearly doesn't take itself at all seriously. It's a horror film and it's not really supposed to immerse us in some totally believable world of fully developed characters. And besides, have you heard teenagers speak these days? I seriously doubt you want a movie with true-to-life teenage dialogue. I fully approve of Diablo Cody going down the path of Joss Whedon/Kevin Williamson.
Plus they're pushing the R-rating in an era where even Sam Raimi has to play it safe with PG-13 (though I doubt this will be as good as Drag Me To Hell).
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I've never met anyone who talks like the characters in Juno or Death Proof - well, unless they're sarcastically making fun of those movies.
The new Friday the 13th made me realize teens/college kids aren't witty at all - they're just dumb, like the dialogue in that movie
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border, it's not just unrealistic, it's pretentious. Huge difference. I don't want to hear about your favorite indie rock band and I don't want to hear your social commentary on why today's youth is so apathetic. As Maurice said, more teenagers and college coeds are worried about getting laid and playing Call of Duty, not discussing their iPod playlist that resembles "Best Of Pitchfork".
And comparing someone to Joss Whedon or Kevin Williamson isn't really something to celebrate about. Both wrote, arguably, one good thing and have been trying to milk the formula for decades.
Sam Raimi didn't have to play it safe, his production company pretty much financed the whole film. He actually chose the PG-13 rating simply because there wasn't enough added "oomph" (reportedly the difference in the footage is seconds) to justify limiting the financial return. Ghost House has enough of a war chest that if he wanted to make a hard R-rated film, he could.
The marketplace still loves red band content - almost all of the bigger returns in the genre have been R-rated. An R-rated slasher flick is nothing new or exciting in current industry; I think I've seen maybe two or three R-rated horror films in theaters this year alone.
This looks like The Faculty meets Mean Girls.
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Extra Tidbit: That Megan Fox topless scene has been cut from the film so....so much for that.
Oh fuck this movie now.
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Huge difference. I don't want to hear about your favorite indie rock band and I don't want to hear your social commentary on why today's youth is so apathetic.
That's kind of what I'm getting at, though -- I don't think this film deals with any of that. Compared to what Cody was doing in Juno, I'd say teen-oriented genre fiction in the style of Whedon/Williamson is a step up. I'd rather have sex demons and 1-liners than crap about teenage moms making hard decisions.
I think this reminds me more of Idle Hands than anything else though (right down to the corny rock-band tie-in). It doesn't have Seth Green.....but the kid in Jennifer's Body is obviously written as a poor man's Michael Cera and Michael Cera is pretty much the Seth Green of this film era (he's in everything, plays the same character every time).
And for the record I'd say Whedon has tried to change his formula quite a good deal since Angel......Kevin Williamson seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I have no idea what he's doing.
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Fuck Diablo Cody. Stupid cunt. THUNDERCATS! THUNDERCATS! SONIC YOUTH! MOLDY PEACHES! THUNDERCATS!
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Kevin Williamson seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I have no idea what he's doing.
He's been writing television shows. I know he wrote Dawson's Creek for like, a decade. And he wrote that Wes Craven abomination, "Cursed". He's been trying to get a "Scream" sequel greenlit for the past few years, though.
... but back to Diablo Cody, I guarantee that this film meanders into that territory. You see flashes of it in the trailer! Sure, it might be more Kevin Williamson than "Juno", but that's like saying it might be more like bland oatmeal than an open faced shit sandwich. Does either or sound really really appetitizing?
Where is Cheebs? I want to revel in this career freefall and taste his bitter tears.
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Who gives a fuck. Seriously, "they don't talk like people", boo ho ho...
As if i wanted boring ass conversations.
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... but that's what you're getting. Juno is nothing but "boring ass conversations". Don't you get it, Wrika?
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I think the most-loved teen movies tend not to feature very realistic dialogue. Nobody talks like the characters in Heathers or The Breakfast Club or Buffy or Dawson's Creek. But part of the appeal is that the characters are able to articulate things that the audience feels but cannot necessarily put to words. The problem with Juno seemed to be that the speech was just a very affected way of expression -- the main character just had an obnoxious way of pointing out how unique/indie she was. It was never funny nor insightful. Just a style for the sake of having a style.
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Probably accurate.
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... but that's what you're getting. Juno is nothing but "boring ass conversations". Don't you get it, Wrika?
Juno yes, but i heard Tarantino's name being thrown around.
Juno sucks dick.
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Teen show dialogue rox. I wish I could talk like those crazy kids. Honest to blog.
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This movie is nothing, watch Devilman! :rock
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Extra Tidbit: That Megan Fox topless scene has been cut from the film so....so much for that.
Oh fuck this movie now.
Not even worth bothering with now.
Diablo Cody could fuck up a cup of coffee.
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And comparing someone to Joss Whedon or Kevin Williamson isn't really something to celebrate about. Both wrote, arguably, one good thing and have been trying to milk the formula for decades.
No love for Firefly or Dollhouse? :'(
I think the most-loved teen movies tend not to feature very realistic dialogue. Nobody talks like the characters in Heathers or The Breakfast Club or Buffy or Dawson's Creek.
For what it's worth, I thought that they absolutely nailed the dialogue in Superbad. In fact, that's probably the only reason I even bothered to purchase it. Some of the exchanges throughout that movie gave me flashbacks.
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It's true that the fat guy and the dork had dialogue that sounded funny and and not that unrealistic in Superbad. McLoving was a fun character but he was also a stereotype and shows that teen movies do need a lot of obvious jokes.
I thought this trailer looked stupid.